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Title: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 29, 2016, 06:47:51 AM
Youngstown hung on to beat UIC on Friday 82-78

Here's the box, and a re-post of the UIC recap of the game...Sounds like Jerry's guys played well for about 20 minutes.

http://www.uicflames.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2015-2016/012816.html (http://www.uicflames.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2015-2016/012816.html)

UIC knocked 22 points off a sizable 24-point deficit with a furious second-half comeback, but the Flames fell just short of victory against the visiting Youngstown State Penguins Thursday night, falling 82-78.

Thanks to a red-hot performance from beyond the arc, YSU built up a 24-point lead with 3:57 to go in the first half. The Penguins had knocked down 10 3-pointers by that point in the ballgame, including five on consecutive possessions over a span of just 1:18. The Flames outscored the visitors 6-0 in the final four minutes to help set the stage for the epic second-half rally.

It was an 18-point game at the half, but a spirited 16-4 run by the home team over the next 3:38 made it only a five-point game with 14:40 remaining on the clock. The surge started with back-to-back 3-point baskets from Dikembe Dixson, and it featured all five players on the floor contributing on the offensive end. UIC also coaxed a pair of turnovers and another handful of difficult shots for the Penguins.

Youngstown State quietly pushed the lead back to 10, and later 11 points, but the Flames would not be doused so easily. Trailing 70-59 with 8:21 remaining, used another run, this time 7-0, to make it a four-point game with a shade over seven minutes to go. UIC fell behind again by nine with 3:47 left, but there was no quit in the squad.

With 29.9 seconds left in the contest, Dixson drilled his fourth 3-pointer of the half to make it a four-point game. YSU's Jorden Kaufman was fouled by Dixson, but he missed the front end of a 1-and-1. Najeal Young got the rebound, he got the ball ahead to Michael Kolawole, who was fouled with 23 ticks left. The freshman calmly buried both free throws to make it a two-point game. The Penguins got back up by four before a tip-in by Young made it a one-shot game again with five seconds left.

Dixson fouled YSU's Jordan Andrews, and he made both shots from the charity stripe to seal a four-point victory.

UIC received heroic performances from up and down its lineup in its first game of a five-game homestand. Dixson led all players with a career-high 32 points, and he matched his personal-best effort on the glass with 15 rebounds. His four 3-pointers also matched a career-high. Dixson wasn't the only one stuffing the stat sheet, however. Young and Tai Odiase each recorded a second double-double this season. Young scored 12 points and led all players with 16 rebounds, while Odiase added 13 points, a career-high 13 rebounds and six blocked shots. It was the third time in the last six games that the sophomore center sent back at least six shots.

Kolawole scored a career-high 15 points, while handing out a career-high five assists. The fifth member of UIC's starting lineup, Lance Whitaker, chipped in with a career-high four steals to go with four points and four assists. Each member of the starting-five (Dixson, Young, Odiase, Kolawole and Whitaker) played at least 34 minutes, while Kolawole matched a career-high with 38 minutes played for the second consecutive game.

The Flames destroyed the Penguins on the glass, 51-41, and in the paint, 44-20. The home team also scored 23 points off YSU's 13 turnovers, but ultimately Youngstown State's 42 points from beyond the arc sank UIC.

The Flames have a quick turnaround before their next home game. UIC welcomes Cleveland State to the UIC Pavilion on Saturday, Jan. 30 at 3 p.m., as the team's open the second half of the conference slate. CSU captured the first meeting on Jan. 18, 70-53.

UIC Notes: UIC started the game with Dikembe Dixson, Michael Kolawole, Tai Odiase, Lance Whitaker and Najeal Young, marking the fourth time this season, and third consecutive outing, that head coach Steve McClain has opened with that group ... Dixson and Odiase have each started all 20 games ... Dixson's 32 points were the most for a UIC player since Jay Harris scored as many vs. UCF on Dec. 11, 2014 ... Dixson has played at least 40 minutes in each of the last three games ... UIC made eight 3-pointers in the second half after missing all eight attempts in the first ... After receiving three double-doubles in the first 16 games, the Flames have posted six in the last four contests ... UIC leads the all-time series vs. YSU, 25-11 ... Thursday's game was the start of a five-game homestand, and a stretch of seven of eight at the UIC Pavilion.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on January 29, 2016, 08:20:25 AM
CONFERENCE
* Valpo rebound margin (#1) = 10.2; YSU (#10) = -7.7
Valpo scoring defense (#1) = 59.6; YSU (#8) = 81.0
Valpo scoring offense (#5) = 74.9; YSU (#6) = 74.8

* Oakland is ranked #2 with 1.9; #5 is at 0.8; #6-10 in this category are all minus !!!
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: oklahomamick on January 29, 2016, 08:29:19 AM
and we both beat Oakland on their home court.   :lol:
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 29, 2016, 09:24:48 AM
CONFERENCE GAMES ONLY - from the HL website "Stat Central"

Scoring Offense
GREEN    86.20
OAKLA    86.10
DETRO    85.00
MILWA    78.40
VALPO    74.90
YOUNG    74.80
NORKY    70.30
WRIGH    67.60
UICHI    66.39
CLEVE    62.20

Scoring Defense:
VALPO    59.60
WRIGHT    63.80
CLEVE    67.70
MILW    71.10
NORKY    72.70
UICHI    78.20
OAKLA    80.10
YOUNG    81.00
GREEN    81.30
DETRO    84.30

The Rebound differential is only shown for the "all-games" portion:

VALPO   10.2
OAKLA    1.9
MILWA    1.7
UICHI     1.5
NORKY  - 0.2
CLEVE   - 1.0
GREEN  - 2.0
WRIGH  - 2.6
YOUNG - 7.7
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: hailcrusaders on January 29, 2016, 10:01:22 AM
Quote from: talksalot on January 29, 2016, 09:24:48 AMCONFERENCE GAMES ONLY - from the HL website "Stat Central" Scoring Offense GREEN    86.20 OAKLA    86.10 DETRO    85.00 MILWA    78.40 VALPO    74.90 YOUNG    74.80 NORKY    70.30 WRIGH    67.60 UICHI    66.39 CLEVE    62.20 Scoring Defense: VALPO    59.60 WRIGHT    63.80 CLEVE    67.70 MILW    71.10 NORKY    72.70 UICHI    78.20 OAKLA    80.10 YOUNG    81.00 GREEN    81.30 DETRO    84.30 The Rebound differential is only shown for the "all-games" portion: VALPO   10.2 OAKLA    1.9 MILWA    1.7 UICHI     1.5 NORKY  - 0.2 CLEVE   - 1.0 GREEN  - 2.0 WRIGH  - 2.6 YOUNG - 7.7

Rebound differential from conference games:

Valpo +16.889
NKU +2.125
Detroit +1.25
CSU -0.667
UWM -0.875
UIC -0.889
GB -1.375
WSU -1.875
Oak -3.125
YSU -4.778

These are from sports-reference.com/cbb although I'm a little skeptical because the above numbers should sum to zero (or at least close to it) and they don't. Regardless, Valpo is a great rebounding team and Youngstown St. is not.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: oklahomamick on January 29, 2016, 10:28:58 AM
Can we see something like this but with scoring differential instead of rebounds? 
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 29, 2016, 10:56:58 AM
Sorta Like This?

          PPG   OPPG    DIFFERENCE    
VALPO      74.9     59.6    15.30    
MILWA      78.4     71.1     7.30    
OAKLA      86.1     80.1     6.00    
GREEN      86.2    81.3      4.90    
WRIGH      67.6    63.8      3.80    
DETRO      85.0     84.3     0.70    
NORKY      70.3     72.7    (2.40)   
CLEVE      62.2     67.7    (5.50)   
YOUNG      74.8     81.0    (6.20)   
UICHI      66.39   78.2    (11.81)   

            
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Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 29, 2016, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: hailcrusaders on January 29, 2016, 10:01:22 AMThese are from sports-reference.com/cbb although I'm a little skeptical because the above numbers should sum to zero (or at least close to it) and they don't. Regardless, Valpo is a great rebounding team and Youngstown St. is not.

My hunch is that it's OK.  "Overall" rebound margin should sum to zero, but for each team these are the average, per game, rebound margins.

Some teams have played 9 games, others only 8.  So, I bet the averages don't have to sum to zero.

(e.g. We've played everybody, 9 games, and some of them have only played 8.  So, we hung a +20/-20 on somebody with eight games.  That only contributes +20/9 to our average, but contributes -20/8 to theirs.  Those two won't sum to zero.)
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: HC on January 29, 2016, 12:11:52 PM
Valpo by 18, 80-62.  We've got too much of Michael's Secret Stuff in our water bottles.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on January 29, 2016, 12:20:09 PM
Quote from: HC on January 29, 2016, 12:11:52 PMWe've got too much of Michael's Secret Stuff in our water bottles.

One of my students pointed out to me that it seemed strange that VU was dressed as the bad guys.

http://cdn.streamlinetechnologies.com/valpoathletics/A22340B3-5D55-4DC2-ACF1-F3B09B72B13F/12482L.jpg (http://cdn.streamlinetechnologies.com/valpoathletics/A22340B3-5D55-4DC2-ACF1-F3B09B72B13F/12482L.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 29, 2016, 01:33:32 PM
January 30th has not been all that kind to Valpo over the years...

2013, Lost at Youngstown State 80-68
2009, Lost at #13 Butler 59-51
2003, Beat Oral Roberts in the ARC 84-71
1999, Beat Southern Utah at Cedar City 62-52
1995, Beat Youngstown State in the ARC 72-58
1993, Beat Youngstown State in the ARC 85-76 in OT
1990, Lost at Western Illinois  86-60
1989, Lost at (Southwest) Missouri State 76-58
1988, Lost at (Southwest) Missouri State 72-44
1984, Lost in the ARC to Northern Iowa 53-47   <<last Home Loss on January 30th
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: covufan on January 29, 2016, 01:50:30 PM
I doubt that YSU will hit as many 3 pointers as they did against UIC.  If YSU wants an up-tempo game, we should give it to them!

Valpo   85
YSU     60
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 29, 2016, 07:19:06 PM
Movie Tonight on VH1 - Comcast 53 / 297-HD

SPACE JAM
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 29, 2016, 09:36:03 PM
The line: Valpo -22.5
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 30, 2016, 07:40:30 AM
and the OU is 144... so, like 82-62 would annoy the linemakers.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 30, 2016, 12:23:22 PM
I know Valpo has been covering double digit point spreads, but it'd be nice to get off to a decent start offensively. The past few games they've been brutal in the first 10 minutes on offense.

vs Cleveland State 1Q, 10:00 - CSU 10 Valpo 12

@ NKU 1Q, 10:00 - Valpo 9 NKU 12 (only 2 Valpo fgs)

@ Wright State 1Q, 10:00 - Valpo 9 WSU 13 (0 points in first 6 min)

vs Green Bay 1Q, 10:00 - UWGB 10 Valpo 9

Since Valpo has a deep bench, they've been rolling over teams once opponents start subbing. Having the starting 5 get into a groove early is something the team can improve on.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: vu84v2 on January 30, 2016, 02:48:45 PM
I think that Valpo will play free and loose tonight. Good ball movement coupled with great rebounding and solid defense.

Valpo 88  YSU 64
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 30, 2016, 03:06:57 PM
Back to number one in adjusted kpom defense after West Virginia gives up billion to Florida
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: rink on January 30, 2016, 08:16:44 PM
Tevonn Walker's leaping ability is unreal!
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: govalpogo on January 30, 2016, 08:56:40 PM
Hard to complain about a 29 point win, but I'm not particularly thrilled with 35 free throws by YSU!  C'mon ref!
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: truth219 on January 30, 2016, 09:10:32 PM
Jubril is playing really well

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Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: covufan on January 30, 2016, 09:11:22 PM

Quote from: govalpogo on January 30, 2016, 08:56:40 PM
Hard to complain about a 29 point win, but I'm not particularly thrilled with 35 free throws by YSU!  C'mon ref!
was just thinking the same


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Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: NativeCheesehead on January 30, 2016, 09:47:29 PM
I have but one thing to say about this game: while I always appreciate a full student section, the student section I was a part of would NEVER have allowed an opposing player to wear a man bun without at least one chant about it. Kids these days.....
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: HC on January 30, 2016, 10:16:11 PM
The front TWTW rows had a man bun chant going during one of his free throws, it didn't catch on though which is a shame.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: historyman on January 30, 2016, 10:36:20 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on January 30, 2016, 09:47:29 PM
I have but one thing to say about this game: while I always appreciate a full student section, the student section I was a part of would NEVER have allowed an opposing player to wear a man bun without at least one chant about it. Kids these days.....

The student section did tell Jordan Andrews to "cut your hair" or something like that.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: valpotx on January 30, 2016, 10:38:15 PM
I look forward to more 3's from Jubril next season, similar to what Kikas did his Junior and Senior seasons!

Vashil is playing extremely well, and is fighting to be second team all-HL!  I think that he pretty much has DPOTY wrapped up...
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: justducky on January 30, 2016, 11:34:21 PM
Quote from: valpotx on January 30, 2016, 10:38:15 PMI look forward to more 3's from Jubril next season,
Not me, I'm looking forward to this year! When the HL decides he needs to be covered out to the arc he should own many of his defenders off the dribble. I suspect that some of Jubril's slow unveiling is by design and would be shocked if new wrinkles are not added.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 31, 2016, 12:38:16 AM
Listened to the first 10 minutes on the radio and will watch the full game tomorrow. I was glad to hear Valpo getting off to a fast start. A 7-0 run to start and 23 points in the first 10 minutes. It's really bizarre following a team that gets 20+ point spreads and covers every time. That has to be a good sign.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: ValpoFan on January 31, 2016, 01:33:57 AM
If Jubril can consistently hit that 3, watch out. He simply becomes impossible to defend. He becomes (I can't believe I am going to say this) a more athletic version of Alec Peters...
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: humbleopinion on January 31, 2016, 07:36:51 AM
Only two blocks for Vashil? Only two blocks for the team?

It sure seems that there were more than two shots when Vashil made contact with the ball and altered its trajectory.  Would it help the scorers if we all held up signs to call their attention to blocked shots?
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on January 31, 2016, 07:48:56 AM
They were taking some pretty wild shots.... with 10 minutes to go in the game, they had made 7 2-point baskets.   Alec Peters had made 7 2-point baskets.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: oklahomamick on January 31, 2016, 10:07:27 AM
This was a mismatched game on paper.  But that doesn't mean Valpo gets the automatic win.  Ask Oakland about that, they lost to YSU at home but are a clear mismatch on paper.  I watched Oakland destroy WSU similar to the way we did YSU last night.  The difference was our star played half the game and Oakland's star played all but 9.  I understand this is a YSU game thread but watch out for Oakland, they are starting to get along with each other and Kampe.  And they are playing better defense. 
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: Pgmado on January 31, 2016, 12:48:00 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on January 31, 2016, 07:36:51 AMOnly two blocks for Vashil? Only two blocks for the team?

It sure seems that there were more than two shots when Vashil made contact with the ball and altered its trajectory.  Would it help the scorers if we all held up signs to call their attention to blocked shots?

Can tell you that everyone on press row was watching blocks closely. He definitely only had two.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 31, 2016, 12:50:19 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on January 31, 2016, 12:48:00 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on January 31, 2016, 07:36:51 AMOnly two blocks for Vashil? Only two blocks for the team?

It sure seems that there were more than two shots when Vashil made contact with the ball and altered its trajectory.  Would it help the scorers if we all held up signs to call their attention to blocked shots?

Can tell you that everyone on press row was watching blocks closely. He definitely only had two.
Just watched the game with blocks in mind - this is accurate.

Painful game to watch, to be honest. Didn't go over a minute without a whistle.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: vu72 on January 31, 2016, 01:12:35 PM
In spite of complaints on this board concerning attendance (rightfully so) the crowd last night was very big (over 4500) and looked great on TV.  Obviously it wasn't the desire to see a big time team but could have been the promotion.  Any other specifics as to why YSU drew so well??
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 31, 2016, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: vu72 on January 31, 2016, 01:12:35 PM
In spite of complaints on this board concerning attendance (rightfully so) the crowd last night was very big (over 4500) and looked great on TV.  Obviously it wasn't the desire to see a big time team but could have been the promotion.  Any other specifics as to why YSU drew so well??

It was a Saturday.

(past 5 years)
Saturday   1/30/2016   YSU   4520
Saturday   1/16/2016   Green Bay   4939
Saturday   1/2/2016   UIC   3773
Saturday   12/19/2015   Missouri State   3458
Saturday   2/21/2015   Wright State   5050
Saturday   1/10/2015   Cleveland State   4155
Saturday   12/13/2014   Ball State   3188
Saturday   12/6/2014   New Mexico   4227
Saturday   3/1/2014   Cleveland State   3171
Saturday   2/22/2014   Youngstown State   3657
Saturday   1/18/2014   Milwaukee   3281
Saturday   12/7/2013   Saint Louis   3564
Saturday   12/14/2013   Loyola Marymount   2548
Saturday   11/23/2013   James Madison   2453
Saturday   2/16/2013   Detroit   5166
Saturday   2/23/2013   Eastern Kentucky   3329
Saturday   1/19/2013   Wright State   4860
Saturday   11/24/2012   Bethune-Cookman   2088
Saturday   2/4/2012   Wright State   4727
Saturday   12/31/2011   Green Bay   2353
Saturday   12/10/2011   Bowling Green   3667
Saturday   12/17/2011   Oakland   2884
         
      Saturday D1 Regular Season Avg   3,725
      Overall D1 Reg Season Avg   3,327
      Conference Saturday Avg   4,138
      Conference Avg   3,500
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on January 31, 2016, 11:07:51 PM
I put together some Vines when I watched the game today:

(http://i.imgur.com/u8NGnze.jpg)

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https://twitter.com/valpovines/status/693853953314795520

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https://twitter.com/valpovines/status/693855817913618432

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https://twitter.com/valpovines/status/693867323397054464

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https://twitter.com/valpovines/status/693875494215766017

Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on February 01, 2016, 10:11:29 AM
watch the Valpo Bench on Vashil's alley-oop.... can't make out who's jumping !!
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: Kyle321n on February 01, 2016, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: talksalot on February 01, 2016, 10:11:29 AM
watch the Valpo Bench on Vashil's alley-opp.... can't make out who's jumping !!
Looks like Davidson.
Title: Re: 1/30 - Youngstown State @ the ARC
Post by: historyman on February 01, 2016, 04:24:23 PM
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 01, 2016, 10:35:33 AM
Quote from: talksalot on February 01, 2016, 10:11:29 AM
watch the Valpo Bench on Vashil's alley-opp.... can't make out who's jumping !!
Looks like Davidson.

Nick is being the one man willy Monmouth!