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Title: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on December 16, 2013, 09:30:58 AM
Wow... almost ran out of room for the subject!

We are proud of our affiliation with the Assemblies of God and our Pentecostal tradition. We are also proud to be a welcoming community for students from all Christian backgrounds and denominations. Our campus includes many Baptists, Presbyterians, Methodists, etc., as well as non-denominational students. Everyone shares a strong commitment to knowing Christ and making Him known, and we celebrate our theological similarities while appreciating our differences.

This "Fire" team looks like a decent NAIA team!  (Looking at their point-spreads...and being 8-1)  receiving votes in the NAIA Division II Coaches Poll for the week of 12/3 (not 12/10).

http://www.seufire.com/schedule.asp?sportID=3 (http://www.seufire.com/schedule.asp?sportID=3)

Two Exhibition Games, both losses:   Florida State 112-74; Univ of Tampa  78-65

Nov. 7, 2013   Trinity College   Lakeland, Fla.      101-78 W   
Nov. 9, 2013     Pensacola Christian College   Lakeland, Fla.      93-59 W   
Nov. 16, 2013    Clearwater Christian College   Lakeland, Fla.      107-81 W   
Nov. 19, 2013   @ Trinity Baptist College   Jacksonville, Fla.     82-65 W   
Nov. 25, 2013   Franklin College   Lakeland, Fla.      (OT) 107-97 W   
Nov. 29, 2013   at Oregon Technical Institute   Ashland, Ore.   86-76 W   
Nov. 30, 2013   @ #2 Southern Oregon University   Ashland, Ore.      81-91 L   
Dec. 3, 2013   Florida National University   Lakeland, Fla.      103-98 W   
Dec. 7, 2013   @ Thomas University*   Thomasville, Ga.      (OT) 76-74 W
   
Tonight:
Dec. 16, 2013   @ St. Thomas University*   Miami Gardens, Fla.      7 p.m.   

Wednesday... with Video Available:
Dec. 18, 2013   Milligan College   Lakeland, Fla.      7 p.m.   Video
Live Video Broadcast Link: http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/southeastern.portal (http://client.stretchinternet.com/client/southeastern.portal)

Here are their leading scorers:

Dwayne Johnson 6-1 SR   21.3 ppg
Timothy Mitchell 6-9 (270lb) JR  18.2 ppg; 14.1 Rebounds per game, and 24 blocks in 9 games
Brandon Moore 6-6 SO   14.7 ppg
Amir Royal  6-7 JR  11.5 ppg (Non-Starter)
Jordan Talley 6-4 SO  10.3 ppg (sometime starter)

NAIA D2 coaches poll...  Bethel #5, Ind Wesleyan #7, Robt Morris (IL) #8.. and a shout-out to Ryan Wronkiewicz' Lourdes is #25.

Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: classof2014 on December 16, 2013, 09:34:39 AM
They seem to be quite the open minded school...

Anyways.... We should win, for obvious reasons, probably will be similar to the RMU game, as long as somebody doesn't go off for 38 points we win by 20 or so. Excited to see KC play for the first time, if he's the best player on the team we're in for something special after seeing what Alec is capable of.

Valpo 98
Them 79
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: Kyle321n on December 16, 2013, 10:05:38 AM
Man Valpo is going against The Rock?  Well let's hope it's all Pain and no Gain  (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1980209/)for them.  Maybe we'll be six times faster and more furious (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1905041/).  We should be looking for retaliation against these Joes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1583421/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_14).  We'll be primed for some transformations. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1659175/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_22) It'll be a race to witch mountain (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1075417/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_32)...

Ok I'm done, that last one was meaningless.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: covufan on December 16, 2013, 02:56:53 PM
I think we'll win easily, but rest key players for stretches, especially in the second half. 

Valpo  -  93
SE Fire - 69
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: Kyle321n on December 16, 2013, 03:39:40 PM
Let's get Keith 20 minutes with the 4 other starters and then rest them the rest of the game.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: vu84v2 on December 16, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
One interesting note.  Southeastern has Mitchell Wiggins Jr, the son of former NBA player Mitchell Wiggins.  He also has a brother that some may have heard of...
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on December 16, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
Hopefully we can get some big minutes to Chadwick and Davidson!

Valpo 89
Southeastern 61
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: ProudValpoAlum705 on December 18, 2013, 01:51:58 PM
Hello all, long time fan , brand new poster. Graduate from class of 2011.

Question: Has anyone seen anything in regards to a video feed for Saturday's game? I do not think I can wait til the ESPN game sunday for my first look at KC...

Thanks and as always GO VALPO!
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: valpotx on December 18, 2013, 04:30:43 PM
The UCF game is going to be on one of the ESPN channels?
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: VU75 on December 18, 2013, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: valpotx on December 18, 2013, 04:30:43 PMThe UCF game is going to be on one of the ESPN channels?

ESPN3
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: Valpofan00 on December 18, 2013, 05:20:09 PM
Will the South Eastern Game be available to watch online? or anywhere else?
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on December 18, 2013, 09:29:51 PM
Southeastern had a game with Milligan tonight... looks like things got a little chippy..... OK, you talk about crowd.  Let's see, this was a home game for a team that's 9-2.... and they packed them in !!... I hope they made a lot of money on concessions, because they did not raise enough money to pay the refs!

Southeastern (Fla.) (9-2)
                          TOT-FG  3-PT           REBOUNDS 
NO PLAYER               P FG FGA FG FGA FT FTA OFF DEF TOT PF TP  A TO BK  S    MIN
21 Moore, Brandon       F  1   3  1   2  0   0   1   1   2  4  3  0  3  1  0  18:46
32 Mitchell, Timothy    C  6  11  0   0  5   6   1   7   8  4 17  1  3  3  0  29:41
3 Thomas, Dana         G  4   7  0   0  4   4   1   6   7  4 12  1  0  0  0  25:26
12 Wilcox, Deshawn      G  5  10  1   2  3   4   1   2   3  1 14  6  5  0  1  30:01
33 Hodges, Jake         G  5   8  0   2  1   2   1   1   2  1 11  1  1  0  1  26:43
5 Talley, Jordan          5  11  3   5  3   3   1   3   4  3 16  0  0  0  0  25:48
10 Royal, Amir             3   9  0   1  7  11   3   5   8  3 13  0  0  2  2  21:39
20 Konieczny, Caleb        3   4  1   2  1   2   2   2   4  2  8  2  1  1  0  18:41
23 Little, Joe             1   1  0   0  0   0   1   1   2  0  2  0  0  0  0   3:15
TEAM REBOUNDS                                    2   1   3           0         
Team Totals               33  64  6  14 24  32  14  29  43 23 96 11 13  7  4    200

Total FG%  - 1st: 16/33  0.485  2nd:  17/31 0.548  Game:  0.516         Deadball
3-PT FG%   - 1st:  3/9   0.333  2nd:   3/5  0.600  Game:  0.429         Rebounds
Total FT%  - 1st:  4/7   0.571  2nd:  20/25 0.800  Game:  0.750           (4,1)

Technical Fouls: MILL (1)  2nd 14:29  2 James Songster,
               : SEU (3)  2nd 14:29  5 Jordan TALLEY, 2nd 12:49 32 Timothy MITCHELL, 2nd 10:48 Coach

OFFICIALS      : Jon Washburn    Tony Vargas   Steve Whittaker
ATTENDANCE     : 85

SCORE BY PERIODS              1st    2nd   TOTAL
            Milligan (Tenn.)   31     58     89 
         Southeastern (Fla.)   39     57     96 

Last FG: Milligan (Tenn.) 2nd- 0:02, Southeastern (Fla.) 2nd- 0:12
Largest lead: Milligan (Tenn.) NONE, Southeastern (Fla.) by 14 2nd- 0:33
Score tied: 0 times, Lead changed: 0 times
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: vu72 on December 18, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: talksalot on December 18, 2013, 09:29:51 PMI hope they made a lot of money on concessions, because they did not raise enough money to pay the refs!

Yeah, it is interesting how little interest there is at anything other than D1.  I was curious so went to the St. Joes site, which of course used to be part of one the the great mid-major leagues of all time, the ICC.  So St. Joes plays Bethel, the #5 ranked team in the NAIA, at home, and they drew?  298.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: historyman on December 18, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
Quote from: vu72 on December 18, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: talksalot on December 18, 2013, 09:29:51 PMI hope they made a lot of money on concessions, because they did not raise enough money to pay the refs!
Yeah, it is interesting how little interest there is at anything other than D1.  I was curious so went to the St. Joes site, which of course used to be part of one the the great mid-major leagues of all time, the ICC.  So St. Joes plays Bethel, the #5 ranked team in the NAIA, at home, and they drew?  298.
The worse part about when they drew only 85 in attendance was when they tried to do the "wave" and the Southeastern bench had to join in so it wouldn't die out.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: gamelord on December 19, 2013, 06:55:23 AM
Easy win!

Valpo 111
SE 78
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: vu72 on December 19, 2013, 07:22:12 AM
Quote from: historyman on December 18, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
Quote from: vu72 on December 18, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: talksalot on December 18, 2013, 09:29:51 PMI hope they made a lot of money on concessions, because they did not raise enough money to pay the refs!
Yeah, it is interesting how little interest there is at anything other than D1.  I was curious so went to the St. Joes site, which of course used to be part of one the the great mid-major leagues of all time, the ICC.  So St. Joes plays Bethel, the #5 ranked team in the NAIA, at home, and they drew?  298.
The worse part about when they drew only 85 in attendance was when they tried to do the "wave" and the Southeastern bench had to join in so it wouldn't die out.

:rotfl:  :thewave:
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on December 19, 2013, 05:02:40 PM
From the Game Notes for the weekend:... How Valpo ranks in the HL statistical categories.

Scoring Offense 1st 82.3
Scoring Margin 1st +11.7
Field Goal Pct. 1st .492
3-Point Pct. 1st .383
Rebounding Offense 1st 39.7
Rebounding Defense 1st 32.2
Rebounding Margin 1st +7.5
Free Throw Pct. 2nd .751
Field Goal Pct. Defense 2nd .391
3-Point Pct. Defense 3rd .319
Blocked Shots 3rd 4.8
Assists 3rd 14.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: mvandersee on December 20, 2013, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Valpofan00 on December 18, 2013, 05:20:09 PMWill the South Eastern Game be available to watch online? or anywhere else?



It is not listed on the ESPN3.com schedule for Saturday, however I will make sure to post a link if I'm able to find one on another site.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: agibson on December 20, 2013, 06:51:18 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on December 16, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
One interesting note.  Southeastern has Mitchell Wiggins Jr, the son of former NBA player Mitchell Wiggins.  He also has a brother that some may have heard of...

Ender?!
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: historyman on December 20, 2013, 07:48:22 PM
Quote from: mvandersee on December 20, 2013, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Valpofan00 on December 18, 2013, 05:20:09 PMWill the South Eastern Game be available to watch online? or anywhere else?
It is not listed on the ESPN3.com schedule for Saturday, however I will make sure to post a link if I'm able to find one on another site.
I think the biggest issue is that someone actually has to have video cameras sending a feed to the internet before a game can be seen on the internet. Unless Valpo or Southeastern have made arrangements only UCF can have cameras at the game and they have made no commitments to have cameras at the Valpo vs Southeastern game.


No cameras=No internet feed
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on December 21, 2013, 10:09:48 AM
But Valpo has something better than camera's...we have Chef describing the action.  Sit back and close your eyes...and pretend this is like 1949 and you're listening to the Lone Ranger on the big radio in your living room...There was an old quote somewhere that "those pictures were better"
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: valpopal on December 21, 2013, 11:24:05 AM
The fall semester's final exams ended late yesterday. Therefore, welcome to Keith Carter whose Valparaiso season and career begin today!

(http://i40.tinypic.com/r9lr8o.jpg)
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: wh on December 21, 2013, 11:59:16 AM
P-T article capturing Keith Carter's thoughts about finally getting to play:

http://posttrib.suntimes.com/sports/24507590-556/gorches-adding-keith-carter-boosts-valpos-rotation-options.html (http://posttrib.suntimes.com/sports/24507590-556/gorches-adding-keith-carter-boosts-valpos-rotation-options.html)

I thought Steve Gorches did an especially good job with this article.  I have long wondered what this whole experience has been like for Keith, and we finally learn first-hand.  Nice job by Steve!
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: historyman on December 21, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
Video feed for Southeatern vs Valpo game:

UCF currently has the Rio Grande at UCF game on this pirate feed. That means there are cameras at the venue and they might continue into the Southeastern vs Valpo game. You never know.

http://uxu.tv/livestreaming/3/228837_1/december-21-2013/rio-grande-vs-ucf.html (http://uxu.tv/livestreaming/3/228837_1/december-21-2013/rio-grande-vs-ucf.html)
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: StlVUFan on December 21, 2013, 05:13:21 PM
Quote from: historyman on December 21, 2013, 04:22:57 PM
Video feed for Southeatern vs Valpo game:

UCF currently has the Rio Grande at UCF game on this pirate feed. That means there are cameras at the venue and they might continue into the Southeastern vs Valpo game. You never know.
Nope.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: a3uge on December 21, 2013, 06:14:43 PM
No stream. But it's 48-20 at half.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: talksalot on December 21, 2013, 06:32:34 PM
1 minute into the second half:

Stat   Total
Points   50
Field Goals   19-29, 65.5%
Free Throws   2-2, 100.0%
3-Pointers   10-13, 76.9%
Off. Rebounds   2
Def. Rebounds   21
Total Rebounds   23
Assists   14
Blocks   5
P. Fouls   12
T. Fouls   0
Turnovers   13
                        Pts  Reb   Ast    PF
PETERS, Alec   16   4   2   1
DORITY, LaVonte   13   1   3   1  (and he added 5 more since I copied it)
CARTER, Keith   8   3   4   1
ADEKOYA, Jubril   4   2   1   3
GUEYE, Moussa   2   3   1   3
FERNANDEZ, Vashil   4   3   0   0
CAPOBIANCO, Bobby   3   3   1   0
YEO, Clay   3   0   1   0
COLEMAN, Jordan   0   1   2   0
WILLIAMS, Lexus   0   0   0   3
DAVIDSON, Nick   0   0   0   0
CHADWICK, David   0   0   0   0


Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: mvandersee on December 21, 2013, 06:34:29 PM
Crusaders just can't miss from 3. They're 13-16 so far at the under 16 media timeout
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: mvandersee on December 21, 2013, 07:11:07 PM
Valpo wins 89-46 in one of the fastest games of the year, just over an hour and a half.

Dority 18 pts
Peters 16 pts
Carter 8 pts, 5 ast, 3 reb

Also all players under 20 minutes played with the exception of Jubril (21) and Vashil (22)
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 21, 2013, 07:13:25 PM
Probably because of the running clock in the second half
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: historyman on December 21, 2013, 07:25:08 PM
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on December 21, 2013, 07:13:25 PMProbably because of the running clock in the second half
How do you keep a clock from running?

Tie it's hands together?  ::)
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 21, 2013, 09:03:25 PM
I think you're thinking of how to keep pantyhose from running.

Again.
Title: Re: Valpo vs. Southeastern Fire @ UCF Tourney 5:30PM Central 12/21 Game Thread
Post by: LaPorteAveApostle on December 21, 2013, 09:34:22 PM
file under "typos that actually aren't that inaccurate"

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