Poll
Question:
In What Round Will Alec Peters be Drafted?
Option 1: Before the 24th pick
votes: 1
Option 2: 24th-30th Picks(likely Orlando or Jazz or Spurs)
votes: 2
Option 3: 30th-45th
votes: 5
Option 4: 46th-60th (likely 76ers, Pacers or Bucks)
votes: 3
Option 5: Undrafted
votes: 0
Quick Poll before tonight's NBA draft.
There are only 2 rounds in the draft. So I will say he will go before the 24th round
Is anybody tracking tis. I am lazy and I hope someone is doing e heavy work for me 😃
In Spokane this week for work and stopped by Gonzaga campus. One of the staffers shared a story I can't confirm. Said Gonzaga was nearing a decision to cease basketball operations until their miraculous NCAA bid back in the 1990's.
Irregardless of the facts, the story resonates with our little school. Maybe we can / are beginning that transition with the MVC and Alec's potential selection in this years draft.
Quote from: M on June 22, 2017, 05:21:29 PM
There are only 2 rounds in the draft. So I will say he will go before the 24th round
Fixed
My guess would be 46th to 60th.
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/878101802939449345
Would have liked him to be closer and higher in the draft, but still it's the NBA. Good Luck Alec!
https://twitter.com/Illinois_Irish/status/878105443918393344
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/878103208023003140
I had not thought of the Suns.
I could enjoy being there during an NBA season.and traveling in the sunny west cities for most of the winter.
Family won't mind visiting him either. 😊
Congrats. ALEX!!
Couldn't have happened to a better person. Congratulations to him and theValpo program! Let's hope we do t wait so long between players being drafted this next time.
Congrats to Alec! He is so incredibly deserving of this new accolade and opportunity!
Congrats to Alec!!! Congrats to me too...I live in the Phoenix area, so I get to see him live...at least on TV anyway!!! ;D
Young, up and coming team. I hate these "Superteams" and haven't watched much of the NBA over the past few years because of it. But in the next 3-4 years as Lebron, Durant, et al, begin to get a little older, it will be interesting to see which of these teams stockpiling young talent gets the formula right.
If Alec in the rotation by mid year it may be worth an investment in the NBA package when it goes on sale in January. Love watching this kid play.
Seems like a good spot for him to land. They're a young team, and he'll have a good shot at earning minutes once he's healed up. So happy for him!! ;D
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2017/06/23/suns-grab-shooters-davon-reed-alec-peters-second-round-nba-draft/422643001/
He will be a great representative of Valpo in the NBA. Congrats and good luck!
USA Today ranked the entire draft player by player. There were seven power forwards taken a head of Alec. Only 2 were rated an "A". Alec was rated a "B+"
Quote from: vu72 on June 23, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
USA Today ranked the entire draft player by player. There were seven power forwards taken a head of Alec. Only 2 were rated an "A". Alec was rated a "B+"
Appears that 19/30 2nd round picks were graded with a B+ or better...
Hmm
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 23, 2017, 03:49:46 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 23, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
USA Today ranked the entire draft player by player. There were seven power forwards taken a head of Alec. Only 2 were rated an "A". Alec was rated a "B+"
Appears that 19/30 2nd round picks were graded with a B+ or better...
Hmm
5/9 listed PF received a B+ or better. Of course this is all conjecture about placement of pick and opinion.
Excited to see what Alec's ceiling is!?!?
https://t.co/B8pGhesVnh
I see that 10 of the 60 draftees are international players not affiliated with a D-1 college program. That said, I think it's noteworthy that Alec wasn't among the top 100 players in his class coming out out of high school, and here he is 4 years later 1 of the top 50 players in all of college basketball. That's a very rare feat.
Well said
Quote from: wh on June 23, 2017, 08:38:28 PMI see that 10 of the 60 draftees are international players not affiliated with a D-1 college program. That said, I think it's noteworthy that Alec wasn't among the top 100 players in his class coming out out of high school, and here he is 4 years later 1 of the top 50 players in all of college basketball. That's a very rare feat.
And a testament to the very same unteachable intangibles that made him a team leader, got him drafted, and will ensure that he sticks in the NBA.
The following brief piece by Kurt Helin of NBC Sports reflects well what I was thinking as I watched Alec's experience with family and friends in his hometown last night in contrast with the glitz surrounding those players attending the NBA Draft ceremonies. I especially liked the emphasis on characterizing Alec's situation and emotions as "authentic."
https://sports.yahoo.com/alec-peters-tearful-reaction-being-003026577.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/alec-peters-tearful-reaction-being-003026577.html)
https://twitter.com/TheReal_MG3/status/878103609547698176
Quote from: cornonthe on June 23, 2017, 12:38:18 AM
Congrats to Alec!!! Congrats to me too...I live in the Phoenix area, so I get to see him live...at least on TV anyway!!! ;D
Will you be calling Alec "Global Water"
"putting out the Suns scoring drought?"
Yes, Alec conveyed a lot more emotion. What suspense! It was great to see him on ESPN as "best available" but it got scary when 8-10 picks passed him. All those doubts had to be piling up.
However, I did note that this year's NBA freshmen draftees were more impressive than I had recalled in other years. Either they are coached up well for PR or this was a particularly good group who really are articulate and hard working. I didn't hear constant mumbling of "uh..." and "it's like..."..or mangled grammar. Most of them spoke in complete sentences. The Louisville kid particularly impressed me with his comments and his really upbeat attitude.
One exception was Malik Monk who let it show he was deflated by being skipped by the Knicks for the French guy. He is from NY.
Not sure this link has been posted. If it has been, forgive the duplication:
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2017/06/23/suns-grab-shooters-davon-reed-alec-peters-second-round-nba-draft/422643001/
NBA rumors say My fellow okie, Blake griffin, headed to the Phoenix Suns. If so, I wonder how this effects Alec?
Will Alec be playing the summer league?
Quote from: oklahomamick on June 30, 2017, 06:10:31 AMWill Alec be playing the summer league?
As stated in many sources, Alec will not be playing in the summer league.
Rumor has it that the Suns are going to pursue Blake Griffin. That certainly wouldn't help AP find minutes as a rookie. Hopefully that signals a sea change in the organization and they line up some trades for stars that will allow Alec to assume a role off the bench in Phoenix, or perhaps somewhere else.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on June 30, 2017, 02:26:03 PMRumor has it that the Suns are going to pursue Blake Griffin. That certainly wouldn't help AP find minutes as a rookie. Hopefully that signals a sea change in the organization and they line up some trades for stars that will allow Alec to assume a role off the bench in Phoenix, or perhaps somewhere else.
Scratch that. Sounds like Griffin is staying in LA.
https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/883028500872970240
https://twitter.com/DougHaller/status/883030459893940224
https://twitter.com/Cody_Cunningham/status/883034655045189632
I think these new two-way rookie contracts and the 'new' G-League couldn't have come at a better time for Alec. Worst case he ends up getting good minutes there as he rounds back into playing shape, and is ready at the 1/4 or 1/2 way point of the season. I wouldn't bet against him being one of the steals of this draft in the next 3-5 years.
Wow. Nothing but the very bottom of the net swished three times in a row. I know he is unguarded, but that's fun to watch.
https://twitter.com/Chris_Reichert/status/883144897951178753
Awesome, good for him. I hope that Vashil and Keith Carter find places to play in a top European league.
Quote from: VU2014 on July 06, 2017, 09:37:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Chris_Reichert/status/883144897951178753
So what exactly does that mean for him??
Quote from: vu72 on July 07, 2017, 06:01:02 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 06, 2017, 09:37:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Chris_Reichert/status/883144897951178753
So what exactly does that mean for him??
http://www.nba.com/lakers/news/170621-g-league-two-way-contracts/
From Lakers website
NBA, G League Introduce Two-Way Contracts
by Joey Ramirez
Digital Reporter
Posted: Jun 21, 2017
The partnership between the NBA and NBA Gatorade League will take a big step in its evolution this year with the introduction of two-way contracts.
NBA rosters will grow from 15 spots to 17 thanks to the addition of a pair of "two-way players" that can spend up to 45 days on an NBA roster.
Under these contracts, which are similar to those used in Minor League Baseball, a player will be able to make an NBA salary on a pro-rata basis while with the parent club, while also being able to earn his G League salary when with the affiliate team.
The Lakers have seen considerable recent success in using the G League to their advantage, as Jordan Clarkson, Ivica Zubac and Tarik Black have served as D-Fenders (now South Bay Lakers) affiliate players in the past.
Meanwhile, David Nwaba was called up from the D-Fenders and provided a strong, 20-game sample with the Lakers last year. The effects of these new contracts will alter how players and teams can strategize around the G League.
Players who may have otherwise went overseas to make more money will now be further incentivized to join the G League in hopes of being selected for a two-way contract, thus earning an NBA salary.
Meanwhile, these contracts will encourage NBA teams to hold onto second-round picks and place more emphasis on undrafted free agents considering the expansion of their rosters.
At the end of last season, 44 percent of players on NBA rosters had prior G League experience. Now, under this two-way system, an even greater emphasis will be placed on using the G League to grow NBA talent.I believe this leads to the elimination of the one and done in the NCAA and greater parity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Arizona_Suns
Quote from: vu72 on July 07, 2017, 06:01:02 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on July 06, 2017, 09:37:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Chris_Reichert/status/883144897951178753
So what exactly does that mean for him??
It could be good or bad. Essentially he gets a pro-rated NBA salary for the days he's called up - but he can only be called up for around 45 days. When his 45 days are extinguished, he simply goes back to the D(G) League. It would be better if he was on a 15-man roster (he'd have a full NBA salary, and still be able to play D-League), but it would also devistating to not be on any roster. I'm assuming he starts the year in Northern Arizona, and then at some point towards the end of the year when the Suns are out of playoff contention, he gets called up for his last 45 days.
Did you see the Peters' tweet this morning?! Says he hasn't signed anything yet.
Actually, this is the same style of contract that former Wichita State guard Fred Van Vleet was playing under with the Toronto Raptors last season. He could be called up at points where the Raptors had a player injury, or someone who had to miss a game due to some personal thing. It doesn't have to be 45 consecutive games, it could be anytime that Alec would be called up counts. Kinda like the hockey two-way contracts, called up as needed, and sent back down to help save on salary caps, when the team has a day off. It will be good for Alec to have this, as he can show what he's learning and doing in the league.
So if I'm doing the math correctly,Alec would earn the NBA minimum of $815,615 for 17-18, for 45 days or $100,555 plus his G League pay of about $75,000 for the balance of the 320 days or $65,753 for a minimum total comp for his first year of $166,308. I suspect the final numbers could be a lot higher.
Quote from: vu72 on July 07, 2017, 11:01:41 AM
So if I'm doing the math correctly,Alec would earn the NBA minimum of $815,615 for 17-18, for 45 days or $100,555 plus his G League pay of about $75,000 for the balance of the 320 days or $65,753 for a minimum total comp for his first year of $166,308. I suspect the final numbers could be a lot higher.
Even if he spends the entire season in the D-League getting his mojo back after injury. 75k + all of the food/travel expenses to play a game. Can't beat that.
That said, the Suns are young. I think they will rotate guys around a lot throughout the season. He will get some play in both leagues. They will want a good sample size evaluation of all of their players to see who gets renewed contracts going forward. In the meantime if they lose a few games because of it no big deal as they are a 3-4 seasons away from being big time contenders.
Does anyone have an update on Alec's situation with Phoenix? Is he signed? If so, is it a 2 way contract with their G League affiliate, a regular signing with the Suns?? Or is he a free agent? Has his foot completely healed?
Not sure. I was wondering also. Maybe its a 2-way contract?
https://twitter.com/mgoforth10/status/901140278966460416
https://twitter.com/mgoforth10/status/901332638455169024
There was the rumor that he signed a 2-way contract but AP disputed it.
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/883162722711605249
https://twitter.com/petersalec/status/883193286432759808
Is it possible that his 45 days of NBA pay could be pro-rated against just the duration of days in the NBA season (perhaps 180 days or so)? That would crank up his max to $200,000 or so.
Well sounds like Alec got an apartment in Phoenix so that sounds like a good sign! Maybe he signed his contract & will be with the team? Either way sounds like good news.
https://twitter.com/petersalec/status/904443186935865344
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/909151431843811328
Alec is listed as active for the opener. The Suns have the maximum 17 players on the roster but you only dress 13. With 3 players currently injured he should be active a lot early. Hopefully he gets some playing time.
Alec Peters first career NBA Points!! Congrats AP!
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/920863902270976000
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/920862806349615105
https://twitter.com/ValpoBasketball/status/920862718214713344
His 3-pointer closed the lead to just 46 points. Could be a long season for the Suns. Still, congrats to Alec.
Quote from: humbleopinion on October 19, 2017, 06:17:10 AM
His 3-pointer closed the lead to just 46 points. Could be a long season for the Suns. Still, congrats to Alec.
LOL! That score caught my eye as well!! 104-58!! :o
Quote from: vu72 on October 19, 2017, 07:25:29 AM
Quote from: humbleopinion on October 19, 2017, 06:17:10 AM
His 3-pointer closed the lead to just 46 points. Could be a long season for the Suns. Still, congrats to Alec.
LOL! That score caught my eye as well!! 104-58!! :o
Yes, but it was against the Blazers! Wait! Not the Warriors?
Congratulations to Alec on becoming the fourth (or sixth, depending on your definition) Valpo graduate to play in an NBA game!
Oof, that's a heck of a score. At least they didn't actually lose by 50 on their opening game of their 50th season. :-[
If anything though, I think this bodes well for Alec to get a lot of play time during his rookie season. It's nice to see him draining 3's again.
Quote from: humbleopinion on October 19, 2017, 06:17:10 AM
His 3-pointer closed the lead to just 46 points. Could be a long season for the Suns. Still, congrats to Alec.
Alec was +1 for his ten minutes! He needs more playing time!
Quote from: covufan on October 19, 2017, 11:22:19 AM
Quote from: humbleopinion on October 19, 2017, 06:17:10 AM
His 3-pointer closed the lead to just 46 points. Could be a long season for the Suns. Still, congrats to Alec.
Alec was +1 for his ten minutes! He needs more playing time!
11 minutes. 1-2 from 3 (and overall). 3 defensive boards and a block. Not too bad.
Well that didn't take long....the Suns fired their coach after three games. It's a bad team but two horrible performances out of three was enough. Look for a salary dump in the near future.
Quote from: IndyValpo on October 22, 2017, 08:30:43 PM
Well that didn't take long....the Suns fired their coach after three games. It's a bad team but two horrible performances out of three was enough. Look for a salary dump in the near future.
That Suns team has a lot of young talent but they looked horrendous they're first 3 games. I don't think anyone was expecting them make it out of the West but they really looked bad.
I watch the last half of the game last night and Alec was the only player on the bench clapping and cheering for his teammates. It seemed like the stars of that team tuned the coach out from the get-go. I can't remember a team firing its coach that early in the season.
Quote from: VU2014 on October 22, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on October 22, 2017, 08:30:43 PM
Well that didn't take long....the Suns fired their coach after three games. It's a bad team but two horrible performances out of three was enough. Look for a salary dump in the near future.
That Suns team has a lot of young talent but they looked horrendous they're first 3 games. I don't think anyone was expecting them make it out of the West but they really looked bad.
I watch the last half of the game last night and Alec was the only player on the bench clapping and cheering for his teammates. It seemed like the stars of that team tuned the coach out from the get-go. I can't remember a team firing its coach that early in the season.
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/10/22/report-phoenix-suns-fire-head-coach-earl-watson-after-teams-0-3-start#/
They talk about the Suns situation on NBA TV here.
I'm sure Alec is learning a great deal about the attitudes of the other players in the NBA and what doesn't work that well for a coach and the upstairs management of a team. Alec's new head coach was one of the Suns asst coaches, Jay Triano, who was a head coach of the Raptors.
Quote from: IndyValpo on October 22, 2017, 08:30:43 PM
Well that didn't take long....the Suns fired their coach after three games. It's a bad team but two horrible performances out of three was enough. Look for a salary dump in the near future.
So, how bad is this news for Alec?
I notice the Suns' G/D League team starts their schedule November 4.
Quote from: agibson on October 23, 2017, 12:03:47 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on October 22, 2017, 08:30:43 PM
Well that didn't take long....the Suns fired their coach after three games. It's a bad team but two horrible performances out of three was enough. Look for a salary dump in the near future.
So, how bad is this news for Alec?
I notice the Suns' G/D League team starts their schedule November 4.
It's to be seen. I think it really depends on the system the new coach wants to run and if he's a fit. The interim coach was the associate head coach coming into the season. I bet they salary dump the expensive vets like Tyson Chandler by the trade deadline.
In other news with the Suns it seems that they have some "prima donnas" on that team. Might help to have high character/team guys like Alec in the locker room and on the bench.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/922508915803348993
Quote from: agibson on October 23, 2017, 12:03:47 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on October 22, 2017, 08:30:43 PM
Well that didn't take long....the Suns fired their coach after three games. It's a bad team but two horrible performances out of three was enough. Look for a salary dump in the near future.
So, how bad is this news for Alec?
I notice the Suns' G/D League team starts their schedule November 4.
We have to wait and see, but some news articles suggest that the poor state of the Suns will make it difficult for them to trade up or attract high profile free agents. Consequently, the more likely option ahead would be to rebuild with a youth movement, giving the young players more time on the court, and that situation could benefit Alec.
There is some talk that the future coach for the Phoenix Suns might be former Sun Dan Majerle. This could be good for Alec since Majerle, even though he was a 6'6" shooting guard, had a game similar to Alec's.
Would it be a good move for Dan Majerle to leave Grand Canyon University this close to the start of the season?
Not good for GCU of course. But they might not have kept him at GCU anyway. This way he stays in town and can still be a promoter for GCU.
It's hard to know what Majerle is paid there. It's a for-profit school.
Quote from: valporun on October 23, 2017, 07:38:27 PM
Would it be a good move for Dan Majerle to leave Grand Canyon University this close to the start of the season?
Reports suggest Majerle would need to be persuaded because he and the Suns have had differences in the past, and if he were to be hired it likely would be for next year. That is why he is mentioned as a possible "future" coach.
GCU is a for-profit university in one of the worst conferences in college basketball. ANY move is an improvement.
Our own AP gets mocked for taking a fake charge about 1:05 into this video ;D:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21127746/eric-bledsoe-sent-home-meeting-phoenix-suns
The Suns have historically been a screwed up organization. A former client of mine., Lance Blanks, who had previously been an NBA player and Asst GM at Cleveland, was hired as the GM for the Suns (2010-2013). He is an extraordinary person yet had a hard time meshing with the ownership. Apparently nothing has changed in the interim.
It's sad but the NBA doesn't call charges unless you're a star or it's so blatant that the refs are forced to call it. That goes for travels too. That was definitely a charge.
C'mon. That was a flop.
That's instilled in him from 4 years of Horizon League refs that call 12-13 offensive fouls a game.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on October 24, 2017, 01:05:08 AM
Quote from: JD24 on October 23, 2017, 09:34:55 PM
C'mon. That was a flop.
F.L.O.P
Looked like there was probably contact. Alec may have encouraged the contact (e.g. leaned out to catch it). It didn't look very hard. He went down pretty easy.
I suppose that equals flop. But not of the most heinous variety.
I didn't see Alec in the box score last night in a Suns win even as a DNP. Does that mean he has been sent down for now?
Quote from: crusadermoe on October 24, 2017, 10:26:30 AM
I didn't see Alec in the box score last night in a Suns win even as a DNP. Does that mean he has been sent down for now?
Just checked the Suns website and he is still listed on the roster of 17.
https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/922864423177302016
From Scott Bordow, a Phoenix Suns beat writer.
With his contract, I think Alec has up to 45 days that he can be with the main roster? I'm not sure how much of that he's already burned through. They can always bring him back up from the G-League if he does extremely well or if there are injuries.
Quote from: swiftmutiny on October 24, 2017, 01:21:29 PMWith his contract, I think Alec has up to 45 days that he can be with the main roster? I'm not sure how much of that he's already burned through.
Maybe none. I think that since his Suns time so far was before the G League's first game (Nov 4) it may not count against the 45.
Quote from: swiftmutiny on October 24, 2017, 01:21:29 PM
https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/922864423177302016
From Scott Bordow, a Phoenix Suns beat writer.
With his contract, I think Alec has up to 45 days that he can be with the main roster? I'm not sure how much of that he's already burned through. They can always bring him back up from the G-League if he does extremely well or if there are injuries.
Steak was nice but so is hamburger!
Quote from: vu72 on October 24, 2017, 10:32:10 AMQuote from: crusadermoe on October 24, 2017, 10:26:30 AMI didn't see Alec in the box score last night in a Suns win even as a DNP. Does that mean he has been sent down for now?
Just checked the Suns website and he is still listed on the roster of 17.
I think G League players have to be carried as an "inactive" on the NBA roster. Teams can carry 15 on the roster and 2 inactives. So, to me at least, it makes sense that he is listed amongst the 17.
This will likely end up being a good thing for Alec. He should get some good minutes down there and it keeps him away from that dumpster fire of a locker room.
http://northernarizona.gleague.nba.com/news/three-naz-suns-coaches-called-phoenix-suns/
Alec has seen a lot in his short time as a pro. First the NBA coach along with 3 assistants are fired, now 3 of their G League coaches were promoted to the big club...
https://twitter.com/tannerkuramata/status/924789845989343233
Looks like Peters scored 27 in 24 minutes, with 7 boards. He didn't play the 4th quarter.
I'm going to miss seeing this jump shot at the ARC on game days. Some big shoes to fill.
https://twitter.com/tannerkuramata/status/924810328860377088
Looks like a game at the local Y!
http://northernarizona.gleague.nba.com/news/alec-peters-dominates-suns-preseason-loss-south-bay/
Article about Alec's night.
Good to see him put up big numbers - I guess his recovery's going OK.
Quote from: a3uge on October 29, 2017, 09:15:44 PM
Looks like Peters scored 27 in 24 minutes, with 7 boards. He didn't play the 4th quarter.
In a 120-116 losing effort. Pre-season, 13 Suns played, and they all scored, so I guess they were really playing to try out players and combinations, and not trying _too_ hard to win.
Alec's 27 points in 24 minutes, with the mentioned 7 rebounds, came in 11-of-17 shooting fashion with 4-of-7 from beyond the arc.
Quote from: usc4valpo
Looks like a game at the local Y!
UCLA Health Training Center, apparently. So not far off, gym-wise.
Looks like Alec played big minutes in his G League season opener (can we just call it the D league instead?), but was very cold shooting.
1-6 from 3, 1-12 overall. 2-2 FT's brings him to 5 points. 2 offensive, 4 defensive boards, an assist, 2 steals, and a turnover in 30.6 minutes. (30.6! What precision!) Having started the game. 126-118 loss.
Should be back in action Thursday.
Quote from: agibson on November 06, 2017, 04:02:07 PM(can we just call it the D league instead?)
Gatorade would be very disappointed if you did.
Quote from: bbtds on November 06, 2017, 06:37:33 PM
Quote from: agibson on November 06, 2017, 04:02:07 PM(can we just call it the D league instead?)
Gatorade would be very disappointed if you did.
How about gatoraDe League?
Alec's game on Thursday night is on "Facebook Live"... 7:30 central
http://northernarizona.gleague.nba.com/schedule/
Alec Peters has been called back up to the NBA roster for tonights game!
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/929520572375207936
They've gone to the half... AP hasn't played yet... TWolves up 4...
Looks like the Suns played 10, not Alec, in a 118-110 win.
Still, good to see them working the two-way contract.
And, from a financial perspective, presumably this game counts.
Was planning on watching Alec in Salt Lake on Saturday. Good for him if he's not there.....
I will say the only downfall for me about the team moving to the mvc is that there are no direct flights from Tulsa to mvc schools (Loyola being the exception)
Does this count towards his allotment?
Quote from: a3uge on November 12, 2017, 02:53:56 PM
Does this count towards his allotment?
I'm pretty sure it counts towards the 45, and adds a nice chunk on to his already nice-for-a-first-job (and nice for the D league) salary.
I don't know how many days it counts as. (Are they allowed to count 45 games as 45 days? Probably not?)
Here's an article that I'd missed earlier
https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2017/7/18/15985262/nba-two-way-contract-2017-summer-league-agents-worried-about-them
Doesn't have all the fine details, but does have a nice discussion of the pros and cons of the two-way contract. To
Alec back in the G League tonight....has 24 pits through 3 quarters
7-10 from 3 with 27 points now. Pretty okay.
and RJ Hunter? For the Rio Grande Vipers... is that who I think it is?
"If is wasn't for Alec Peters the Suns would not be in this game at all" Nice shout out!
Quote from: IndyValpo on November 14, 2017, 08:44:20 PM
Alec back in the G League tonight....has 24 pits through 3 quarters
Quote from: a3uge on November 14, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
7-10 from 3 with 27 points now. Pretty okay.
If he gets outscored by RJ Hunter that will really be the pits.
Alec 34 points in 37 minutes RJ 20 points in 30 minutes... But the vipers won 128-127
Alec shooting out of his mind, and isn't in the game for the final play. :crazy:
Glad to see another solid effort! Keep it up Alec!
https://twitter.com/nazsuns/status/930641725738979328
Seriously, how is his defense coming along?
Quote from: vu72 on November 15, 2017, 08:20:11 AM
Seriously, how is his defense coming along?
Alec: Have we been playing defense? I know how to play defense.
I watched Alec's game last night. Despite appearing a bit frustrated with a slightly off night in shooting (3-10 3-pointers and 3 missed free throws), Alec still led all players on both teams with 25 points and 15 rebounds. :thumbsup:
https://twitter.com/nazsuns/status/932111991908347904
Jeez, he's doing better as a pro than a collegian. But in the pros there are 8 more minutes of play. Still........
I think AP's Northern Az Suns play in Ft. Wayne vs. the Mad Ants near the end of this month.
Sunday the 26th, 5pm ET
Expect to see Alec Peters with the Phoenix Suns when they visit Chicago to play the Bulls tomorrow evening!
Quote from: valpopal on November 27, 2017, 10:55:06 AM
Expect to see Alec Peters with the Phoenix Suns when they visit Chicago to play the Bulls tomorrow evening!
Interesting - good for him! The box score makes it look like he was in Fort Wayne last night, but didn't play.
Quote from: agibson on November 27, 2017, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: valpopal on November 27, 2017, 10:55:06 AM
Expect to see Alec Peters with the Phoenix Suns when they visit Chicago to play the Bulls tomorrow evening!
Interesting - good for him! The box score makes it look like he was in Fort Wayne last night, but didn't play.
Watched that game last night and did not see him on the NAZ bench. If he was in Fort Wayne I don't believe he was at the game.
Quote from: FWalum on November 27, 2017, 03:52:20 PM
Quote from: agibson on November 27, 2017, 11:06:02 AM
Quote from: valpopal on November 27, 2017, 10:55:06 AM
Expect to see Alec Peters with the Phoenix Suns when they visit Chicago to play the Bulls tomorrow evening!
Interesting - good for him! The box score makes it look like he was in Fort Wayne last night, but didn't play.
Watched that game last night and did not see him on the NAZ bench. If he was in Fort Wayne I don't believe he was at the game.
They called him up last minute, but nobody reported or made an announcement he got called up before the game.
Looking forward to the article that partially features AP
https://twitter.com/NWI_Al/status/935699899844358149
Quote from: VU2014 on November 28, 2017, 09:52:07 PM
Looking forward to the article that partially features AP
https://twitter.com/NWI_Al/status/935699899844358149
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/columnists/al-hamnik/al-hamnik-ulis-peters-have-reason-to-smile/article_89817bb1-aaaa-5d69-88e0-4cb06b1dd41b.html
Isn't it time to start an "Alec Peters IN the NBA" thread?
https://twitter.com/Suns/status/936655897975070720
Judging from the HL logo on the court he is shown practicing at......... UIC - how ironic.
Given the depth The Suns have at the 4, and the youth associated with those guys, my guess is Alec will be traded. Chicago would be a great landing spot!
Quote from: agibson on November 29, 2017, 11:40:44 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on November 28, 2017, 09:52:07 PM
Looking forward to the article that partially features AP
https://twitter.com/NWI_Al/status/935699899844358149
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/columnists/al-hamnik/al-hamnik-ulis-peters-have-reason-to-smile/article_89817bb1-aaaa-5d69-88e0-4cb06b1dd41b.html
"Everybody's got a role on this team and mine right now just happens to be a guy who's going to use his voice — though I can't be out there on the court — to vocally help guys as much as I can.
"Whatever (Triano) needs from me or our team needs from me to win, that's what I'm going to do."
Back in college, the Crusaders needed much from Peters and got it — a 17.5 career scoring average for 134 games, including 23 points and 10.1 rebounds his senior year.
"It's an adjustment," he said. "You got to pay your dues, wait your time, and when you get an opportunity, be ready.
"Nobody is ever truly 'ready' for the NBA. Like anybody else, you have to learn, you have to grow, and continue to get better because everybody in this league is the best in the world."
Peters credited former VU coach Bryce Drew and assistant Roger Powell for preparing him for that difficult climb onto the big stage.
"They always said keep your head down and keep working; make sure you're extra focused on what you're doing because nothing is promised you," Peters said.
Ulis, a high second-round pick in 2016, believes the Suns will be playoff bound in a few more seasons, maybe sooner.
"We're such a young team, we're just trying to get used to each other," he said before tip-off. "They want me to get a little more aggressive, have better control of my game in getting T.J. (Warren), Kevin (Booker) and those guys their shots.
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12 of 17 is absolutely sick :bowdown:
Alec looks bigger
Here is his G League page, with stats and highlights if anyone is interested: http://gleague.nba.com/player/alec-peters/ (http://gleague.nba.com/player/alec-peters/)
Please trade him to my Mavs, as we suck :)
Quote from: valpotx on December 06, 2017, 07:21:24 PM
Please trade him to my Mavs, as we suck :)
You think the Mavs suck. The Bulls lost to the Pacers by 2 tonight after leading the whole game till the last minute.
Quote from: bbtds on December 07, 2017, 01:30:27 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 06, 2017, 07:21:24 PM
Please trade him to my Mavs, as we suck :)
You think the Mavs suck. The Bulls lost to the Pacers by 2 tonight after leading the whole game till the last minute.
Bulls have now won three in a row and are starting to change the narrative with Mirotic and Portis having seemed to settle their issues. Those two have really turned the Bulls
Hopefully fun for Alec to play with Isaiah Canaan.
Mid-major power!
They coasted to a win last night, with the starters (including those two) playing somewhat limited minutes. Alec 3-6 from 3 with a bunch of rebounds. Canaan 3-4 from 3 with a bunch of assists (and a fair number of turnovers).
Alec is still lighting up the scoreboard with 31 points & 11 rebounds last night:
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I don't know how it's possible but worth a RT
https://twitter.com/PrioritySports/status/948935048652304385
What is Priority Sports?
Quote from: valpotx on January 05, 2018, 12:12:27 AM
What is Priority Sports?
That is who represents Alec. It's a big sports agency.
https://twitter.com/Sports_Aaron/status/956552612760911872
Nick in the AM: Pursuing NBA dream, Washington's Alec Peters keeps traveling
By Nick Vlahos
Journal Star reporter
Posted at 9:02 AM
http://www.pjstar.com/news/20180125/nick-in-am-pursuing-nba-dream-washingtons-alec-peters-keeps-traveling
https://twitter.com/4apeters/status/956378979203801088
https://twitter.com/jschoon33/status/956378243979972615
Great interview! It is nice to see that Alec is still the same Alec we knew at Valpo...a class act all the way.
From the PJ Star
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There have been times where it's been midnight the night before the game and they said, 'We need you to come meet the team plane in an hour and you need to fly to L.A. with the team,'" said Peters, who has spent 13 games with Phoenix and played in five.
Crazy.
Trying to understand the NBA two way contract.....I found the following:
Here are the specific details for the new two-way contract:
•They will act as a 16th and 17th roster spot for NBA teams beginning next season (2017-18).
•The player can spend up to 45 days with the NBA team that signs him, although no time is guaranteed.
•The rest of the player's contract must be spent in the G-League, either for the team's affiliate or another's if the team he signs with doesn't have a G-League affiliate yet. For the 2017-18 season, the G-League will represent 26 of the NBA's 30 teams.
•The player's pay comes on a tiered salary system, which can last one or two seasons. While in the G-League, the player will make $75,000. It's a significant increase from the current pay structure for G-Leaguers, who cannot make more than $26,000 with a one-way G-League deal.
•When in the NBA, a player with a two-way contract will accrue a day of service and make money consistent with an NBA rookie minimum, which is about $816,000 next season. If a player spends 45 days in the NBA, he could make around $204,000.
•In total, a two-way player who spends the maximum amount of time in the NBA would make $279,000.
Once you reach 45 days I guess you are either signed to an NBA contract, relegated back to the G League or released. Here is an article about Mike James who was on a two way with the Suns.
https://deadspin.com/mike-james-two-way-contract-success-story-summarily-w-1821553441
Alec has been up with Phoenix for awhile, does anyone know how close he is to 45 days?
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 03, 2018, 08:39:38 AMAlec has been up with Phoenix for awhile, does anyone know how close he is to 45 days?
His web page shows he has been up for 53 games which is more than allowed.
If you count just the games in which he played the number is 8.
http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3062897/alec-peters
Quote from: vu72 on February 03, 2018, 11:06:12 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 03, 2018, 08:39:38 AMAlec has been up with Phoenix for awhile, does anyone know how close he is to 45 days?
His web page shows he has been up for 53 games which is more than allowed.
If you count just the games in which he played the number is 8.
http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3062897/alec-peters
That is the entire season whether he was there or not. But using that I would estimate he is only at 25 days or so.
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 03, 2018, 01:32:04 PM
Quote from: vu72 on February 03, 2018, 11:06:12 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 03, 2018, 08:39:38 AMAlec has been up with Phoenix for awhile, does anyone know how close he is to 45 days?
His web page shows he has been up for 53 games which is more than allowed.
If you count just the games in which he played the number is 8.
http://www.espn.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/3062897/alec-peters
That is the entire season whether he was there or not. But using that I would estimate he is only at 25 days or so.
I don't know of any site that makes it easy to track this. From the box scores (NAZ Suns and Phoenix Suns) I think it's usually clear whether he was on the bench, playing or not.
But, all the contract language seems to be about _days_ rather than _games_. I assume, but don't know for sure, that a practice day counts. Seems like he's been spending a lot of time lately up with the team, and even on the bench, but not playing. If all that's true, it seems like he's going to run out of eligibility here at some point.
Who knows. Maybe it's a sign that they're willing to pay him some decent fraction of the NBA Rookie Minimum, but prefer to save some money by having him spend _some_ time in the G league. Or were worried that the time could come when there wasn't space on the bench for him, so they wanted the G league as a place they could stockpile/develop him. *shrug*
Alec pulled down a rebound in his one minute of play vs. the Lakers last night. That projects to 48 rebounds per game. :) :lol:
Story from December about Alec deserving more time in the NBA.
https://valleyofthesuns.com/2017/12/07/alec-peters-worth-look-phoenix-suns-uniform/
Alec got 12 minutes last night in a blowout loss (Spurs won 129-81). When I turned it on (thanks to the twitter warning from VU engineering prof and basketball fan Sami Khorbotly), they were already down 30 or so, late in the second quarter. Not the most impressive stat line: 2 points, 5 boards, 0-5 from 3, 1-7 overall, in those 12 minutes.
But, it was great to see Alec, on the court, on ESPN!
He is struggling to hit shots at the NBA level. He will only get so many chances...
Josh Jackson and their white big men are just not consistent enough to be competitive in the NBA.
My thought is AP will get one more year and if his 3 point shooting doesn't improve by 8 to 10% then he'll be gone. Maybe he should be setting himself up for that college coaching career as soon as possible. The opportunities and connections won't be there long.
From the relatively few minutes of Suns basketball I can stomach, they should go ahead and play Alec 20-25 mins for a few games. That team may be worse than Cavs teams post-LBJ I. Seriously, with Booker out they had nothing last night. At 8 mins, 1st quarter, they hadn't scored yet. Len is a stiff. They are supposed to be rebuilding so why not play your 2d round pick. Scoring 30 in G-League, then sitting for days and being expected to come in and start lighting it up is not helpful. It's like bringing up your star prospect in baseball and then sitting him for 4 days and then playing him once, he goes 0-4, sit for 3 more days and wondering why he isn't hitting. He will have a long career in Europe if the NBA gives up on him. Shoot, there's an open roster spot on the Cavs now.
Back to the G League.........29 minutes last night, shot well but struggled overall with 6 fouls and a -14 for the game.
Quote from: IndyValpo on February 12, 2018, 11:00:59 AM
Back to the G League.........29 minutes last night, shot well but struggled overall with 6 fouls and a -14 for the game.
Yeah, it was a funny looking line also 6-10, 4-8 from 3, 4 DREB, 2A, 16 pts.
I took a quick stab at assembling Alec's count of days with the Suns. The trouble is I don't really know what counts: I figure game days for sure, and presumably days between games if he's with the team for both games. But, if he's up for only one game, could they count as little as one day?
Anyway, I think this is a conservative count
at least Nov 11 with Suns, one day
at least Nov 26-28 with Suns, three days
with Suns Jan 12-16, at least five days
(and didn't play with the Naz Suns on the 18th, but did on the 20th)
up from Jan 22 or earlier to at least Feb 7, at least 16 days
Feb 10 _not_ with the Suns, Feb 11 with NAZ
(NAZ doesn't play until Feb 21, Suns Feb 12 no Alec, 14... 23, 24
That's at least 25 days, probably more, of his 45.
It's possible that I missed games where he was on the bench for the Suns, but didn't play (but some of those _are_ included, above). I fully expect that I missed days where he was at practice, or traveling, etc.
https://twitter.com/nazsuns/status/969085652678598656
https://twitter.com/petersalec/status/969286146705408000
https://twitter.com/nazsuns/status/969318781657825280
https://twitter.com/petersalec/status/969321000666988544
That guy is so smart. In 4 years at Valpo he developed so far. Now in the G-League he continues to develop his flopping technique :thumbsup: And I am not accusing him of flopping; he learned how to establish position.
Alec tied the Northern Arizona Suns team record with 9 3-pointers tonight. He had game-high 34 points and 10 rebounds. :thumbsup:
I dunno, he look clumsy to me. Kept falling over! ::)
Quote from: vu72 on March 03, 2018, 09:24:25 AM
I dunno, he look clumsy to me. Kept falling over! ::)
Take a close look at charge #1. His head snaps back just BEFORE the contact. Kind of like a knee-jerk reflex before the rubber hammer makes contact. lol
And on that happy note, I will be out of posting commission until the end of April, at which time undoubtedly I shall return in a more positive frame of mind. :)
I just wish that he could translate his shooting success to the NBA games he plays in. I know that he comes in for very short spurts, versus playing most of the game at the G-League level, but that is the only opportunity he will get, until NBA teams give up on him.
Alec has been back up with the Suns for the past 3 games:
DNP
3 minutes 0-1 1 assist
10 minutes 3-5 (2-4 from 3) 2 rebounds 8 points
Interesting to see the NCAA use Alec answering a question as an ad to promote them and the rule that allowed him to explore the NBA but return for his senior year. How about they also ask him how he felt about "fairness" in the way the NCAA treated his best friend Jubril during his senior year?
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As cool as it is to see AP in this ad why is the NCAA paying this advertising? What purpose does it serve? Is it purely just an attempt at a PR boost?
Quote from: agibson on February 13, 2018, 12:01:57 PMI took a quick stab at assembling Alec's count of days with the Suns. The trouble is I don't really know what counts: I figure game days for sure, and presumably days between games if he's with the team for both games. But, if he's up for only one game, could they count as little as one day?
Anyway, I think this is a conservative count
...
That's at least 25 days, probably more, of his 45.
Thanks, IndyValpo, for the updates. Let me update this cumulative count too. Saturday Alec was DNP with the Suns, but was apparently on the bench. They play again tomorrow.
So, with the team at minimum March 4 through March 10.
That's a total of at least 32 days, probably more, of his 45.
The Suns already converted one two-way player this year to an NBA contract. He quickly transitioned to playing regular minutes with the team. But, who knows, maybe Alec's next? Presumably it still saves them some salary on the first half of the season, compared to starting him on an NBA contract.
Quote from: agibson on March 12, 2018, 01:38:33 PM
Quote from: agibson on February 13, 2018, 12:01:57 PMI took a quick stab at assembling Alec's count of days with the Suns. The trouble is I don't really know what counts: I figure game days for sure, and presumably days between games if he's with the team for both games. But, if he's up for only one game, could they count as little as one day?
Anyway, I think this is a conservative count
...
That's at least 25 days, probably more, of his 45.
Thanks, IndyValpo, for the updates. Let me update this cumulative count too. Saturday Alec was DNP with the Suns, but was apparently on the bench. They play again tomorrow.
So, with the team at minimum March 4 through March 10.
That's a total of at least 32 days, probably more, of his 45.
The Suns already converted one two-way player this year to an NBA contract. He quickly transitioned to playing regular minutes with the team. But, who knows, maybe Alec's next? Presumably it still saves them some salary on the first half of the season, compared to starting him on an NBA contract.
He was back with Northern Arizona last night scored 16 I believe. Interestingly the guy the promoted two way player got phased out of PT and ultimately cut.
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 12, 2018, 02:18:18 PMHe was back with Northern Arizona last night scored 16 I believe. Interestingly the guy the promoted two way player got phased out of PT and ultimately cut.
Interesting. The guy in question is Mike James. Apparently never played with the Naz Suns. Played a bunch of minutes for Phoenix, even started 10 games. Was waived two weeks after they converted him to a regular NBA contract. The Pelicans picked him up on another two-way in January (apparently you can do that), he never played in the G league and was waived by the Pelicans after a month, having played in four games.
He's now back with Panathinaikos in Greece where he played before coming to Phoenix.
So, yeah, obviously it can be a rough business as you're trying to break in.
7 3's last night. Alec is currently 2nd in the league in 3 pointers per game.
He needs to translate it to his limited playing time at the NBA level, otherwise he will just be another G-League superstar.
Quote from: valpotx on March 17, 2018, 07:39:08 PM
He needs to translate it to his limited playing time at the NBA level, otherwise he will just be another G-League superstar.
I hope he does start taking advantage of the limited minutes he gets with the big league club. My guess is if he couldn't catch on with a NBA team with a two-way contract, he'd eventually move on to play at the highest levels of Europe and still make really good money.
sometimes these 2-way players go a year or two before they finally catch on with an NBA club, or are traded and they get a second chance at the big-time. Hopefully AP will be the next guy to do so.
Final regular season game tonight for the Northern Arizona Suns. They did not make the playoffs so hopefully he will be up with the big club for the last 10 games.
Quote from: agibson on March 12, 2018, 01:38:33 PMThat's a total of at least 32 days, probably more, of his 45.
The Suns already converted one two-way player this year to an NBA contract. He quickly transitioned to playing regular minutes with the team. But, who knows, maybe Alec's next? Presumably it still saves them some salary on the first half of the season, compared to starting him on an NBA contract.
Alec's game log got pretty crazy for a while.
PHX
4 minutes 3/15 (@ Utah)
bench 3/17 (PHX)
12 minutes 3/20 (PHX)
bench 3/26 (PHX)
NAZ
14 pts 3/11 (AZ)
7 3's 3/16 (AZ)
18 pts 3/21 (AZ)
39 minutes 3/23 (AZ)
15 pts 3/24 (AZ)
Seemed like he was playing, or at least on the bench, for whoever was in Arizona. So, some appearances for Phoenix which really ay have just put one day against his 45 day NBA ticker.
Still, if they want him on the bench for the rest of the NBA season, I guess they'll have to give him a real contract. We'll see.
G League Summary
34 games 34 mins per 17.6 points 7.1 rebs #2 in 3pt made and attempted, 16th in 3pt%
Also Brandon Wood
43 games 23 mins per 10.3 pts 2.9 assists #2 ft%
A lot of minutes tonight for AP...not a lot of production. 27 minutes 0-5 shooting. Handful of rebounds.
My gosh. I had peeked at Alec's box scores, but not the Suns' record.
They have won just a SINGLE GAME since January 31.
They went 1 for February and O for March. :o :o
Alec Peters has yet to win a game in the NBA. Last night was the closest.
Quote from: Pgmado on March 31, 2018, 05:25:50 PM
Alec Peters has yet to win a game in the NBA. Last night was the closest.
They won last night, but no sign of Alec. Maybe they'll try to avoid converting his contract after all?
He played 12 minutes on Easter in a (another) loss.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2018/04/03/phoenix-suns-job-auditions-shaquille-harrison-danuel-house-alec-peters/483633002/
talks about Alec nearly doubling his season total minutes in four games. And about the possibility of the Suns clearing out some youth to make room for a few veterans for next season.
Quote from: agibson on April 04, 2018, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on March 31, 2018, 05:25:50 PM
Alec Peters has yet to win a game in the NBA. Last night was the closest.
They won last night, but no sign of Alec. Maybe they'll try to avoid converting his contract after all?
He played 12 minutes on Easter in a (another) loss.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2018/04/03/phoenix-suns-job-auditions-shaquille-harrison-danuel-house-alec-peters/483633002/
talks about Alec nearly doubling his season total minutes in four games. And about the possibility of the Suns clearing out some youth to make room for a few veterans for next season.
According to Alec's stat page he played 11 minutes last night in the Suns 97-94 win over the Kings. Alec didn't take any shots except 2 FTs which were both missed. He was credited with 2 assists, 1 foul and no rebounds.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2830/alec-peters
The Suns look like they want to give him a look here and that could continue with Alex Len (ankle) hurting. Peters hasn't played well and there's hardly a trend he'll get big minutes, so leave him on the wire for now. Mar 30 - 11:21 PM
When I read about Alec's experience this year and compare to that of Ryan Broekhoff, I wonder whether pursuing the NBA dream is worth it. Getting minimal playing time for a bottom dwelling NBA team does not bode well for the future. On the other hand Ryan seems to be quite happy playing and being a star playing ball in Europe.
Quote from: humbleopinion on April 05, 2018, 07:52:36 AMI wonder whether pursuing the NBA dream is worth it.
It is always worth pursuing dreams!
It's definitely worth it. If he could catch on with a team and one day be a key bench player the financial gain for him would be huge. Not to mention he'd get to live out his childhood dream. Have a little faith. There is never a simple path. Playing at the top levels of Europe will always be a option for Alec as long as he remains healthy (knock on wood).
Quote from: humbleopinion on April 05, 2018, 07:52:36 AMGetting minimal playing time for a bottom dwelling NBA team does not bode well for the future.
PHX provides one of the best opportunities for Alec this season and next. On another team, his 8-10 minutes per game would be much less. Work hard, do the little things that don't end up in the box score, and others will notice.
Quote from: bbtds on April 04, 2018, 02:13:24 PM
Quote from: agibson on April 04, 2018, 01:53:35 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on March 31, 2018, 05:25:50 PM
Alec Peters has yet to win a game in the NBA. Last night was the closest.
They won last night, but no sign of Alec. Maybe they'll try to avoid converting his contract after all?
He played 12 minutes on Easter in a (another) loss.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2018/04/03/phoenix-suns-job-auditions-shaquille-harrison-danuel-house-alec-peters/483633002/
talks about Alec nearly doubling his season total minutes in four games. And about the possibility of the Suns clearing out some youth to make room for a few veterans for next season.
According to Alec's stat page he played 11 minutes last night in the Suns 97-94 win over the Kings. Alec didn't take any shots except 2 FTs which were both missed. He was credited with 2 assists, 1 foul and no rebounds.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2830/alec-peters
Good! Happy to be wrong here. ESPN agrees with your version
http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400975913
Somehow the box score linked from Phoneix's own web page
http://www.nba.com/suns/schedule#gref
leaves off Daniels (who started?!), Williams, and Alec. But, indeed, the total game minutes don't work without them.
Maybe they'll write Alec a new contract after all.
Last night Alec put up 8 points on 3/4 shooting in 10 minutes of play time against the Warriors. Box Score (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400975949)
It was the Suns' last home game of the year. They have one remaining game at Dallas tomorrow night.
Unfortunately, not everyone is an AP fan:
"Valley of the Suns.com, the Phoenix Suns news and opinions site brought to you by the FanSided Network. Valley of the Suns is dedicated to providing top-notch Suns news, views, and original content. This site also serves as a community for like-minded fans to come together to catch up on the latest news and to discuss their passion."
This site published the following about AP: https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/04/06/phoenix-suns-alec-peters-experiment/
This is posted for your information, and is not my opinion at all.
Quote from: valpospartan on April 09, 2018, 11:19:18 PM
Unfortunately, not everyone is an AP fan:
"Valley of the Suns.com, the Phoenix Suns news and opinions site brought to you by the FanSided Network. Valley of the Suns is dedicated to providing top-notch Suns news, views, and original content. This site also serves as a community for like-minded fans to come together to catch up on the latest news and to discuss their passion."
This site published the following about AP: https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/04/06/phoenix-suns-alec-peters-experiment/
This is posted for your information, and is not my opinion at all.
I tend to agree but it is a two way street. the Suns are a dumpster fire and have been since game one. They are not in a position to take advantage of what Alec might offer.
Quote from: valpospartan on April 09, 2018, 11:19:18 PM
Unfortunately, not everyone is an AP fan:
"Valley of the Suns.com, the Phoenix Suns news and opinions site brought to you by the FanSided Network. Valley of the Suns is dedicated to providing top-notch Suns news, views, and original content. This site also serves as a community for like-minded fans to come together to catch up on the latest news and to discuss their passion."
This site published the following about AP: https://valleyofthesuns.com/2018/04/06/phoenix-suns-alec-peters-experiment/
This is posted for your information, and is not my opinion at all.
Peters has been bad in the NBA, but the premise of the article is absurd: "Phoenix doesn't have time to wait for him to grow as a player."
Phoenix is a terrible team and is years away from competing in the West. They have more time than any team in the NBA.
Alec is opening eyes tonight!
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Alec scores 36 points in 28 minutes of play with 8 3-pointers and 9 rebounds!
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Peters full highlights:
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This was the game Alec needed!
Box Score (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400975962)
Granted, it was the last game of the season between two tanking teams, but still. Damn impressive numbers, and he did it on an NBA court. Congratulations to him! :thumbsup:
That performance could ultimately be worth millions! He deserves it!!
"We had trouble stopping Larry Bird dressed up as Alec Peters." - Rick Carlisle, Dallas Mavericks Head Coach. :lol:
Quote of the night!
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/983898942025977856
Dude, what the hell Alec, I thought we were cool? :)
:rotfl:
https://twitter.com/alexvoerman/status/983904370592047104
Congrats Alec.
With that 36, Alec finished with 82 pts for his rookie year. Bryce had 118 his rookie year. Bryce had 1081 for his NBA career. Will Alec be the all-time leading scorer from Valpo before his NBA career finishes? He's already moved into 5th place! 8-)
Bryce 1081
John Janish 734
Milt Schoon 616
Bob Dille 296
Alec Peters 82
Don Bielke 14
This has to be the record for most points in an NBA game by a former Valpo player.
Quote from: vu84v2 on April 11, 2018, 09:44:09 AMThis has to be the record for most points in an NBA game by a former Valpo player.
It is.
I think Peters' ultimate destination is overseas but we'll see.
I see on the ESPN-Ticker... he was the NBA's leading scorer last night... fun to see his name !!
Cool postgame interview with Jay Triano Suns interim Head Coach about AP's big night.
https://twitter.com/Suns/status/983914950228721665
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Quote from: vu84v2 on April 11, 2018, 09:44:09 AMThis has to be the record for most points in an NBA game by a former Valpo player.
It is.
I think Peters' ultimate destination is overseas but we'll see.
Paul Oren reported on twitter last night that previous record was held by Schoon/Bryce at 24.
Seems like we haven't heard anything about Alec getting signed to a regular NBA contract. Does this mean there's an "after the G league ends" exception like there's a "before the G league begins" exception to the number of days limit? I don't remember seeing that in the reporting on two-way contracts.
Quote from: JD24 on April 11, 2018, 09:56:03 AM
I think Peters' ultimate destination is overseas but we'll see.
To early to tell. I could see him signing another 2-way deal with a NBA team next season. He may catch on with a team. A lot has to do with circumstance. Fingers crossed he remains in the NBA.
Quote from: VU2014 on April 11, 2018, 01:48:04 PMQuote from: JD24 on April 11, 2018, 09:56:03 AMI think Peters' ultimate destination is overseas but we'll see.
To early to tell. I could see him signing another 2-way deal with a NBA team next season. He may catch on with a team. A lot has to do with circumstance. Fingers crossed he remains in the NBA.
Don't forget he was dominating in the D-league. So that plus last nights performance should give the Sun's (and other teams) reason to give him a fair shot at an NBA career. Obviously he needs to deliver consistently, but he only got spot minutes before last night which is hard to get in a grove. We know what he can do and he has shown that he deserves more playing time, which hopefully he can capitalize on.
I'd love to see him carve out a role as a three point specialist off the bench for a contender. I think he could be lethal in that role.
I have to wonder if that performance may lead to a recruiting boost. It proves you CAN go to the NBA from Valpo and succeed. Potential recruits may take notice of that. Having NBA talent on other rosters in our conference like Milton Doyle (Loyola) Alize Johnson (Missouri State) and potentially others like Milik Yarbrough (Illinois State) won't hurt either. We've got plenty of good basketball and hopefully some really good Valpo teams coming for the foreseeable future. Now if we could just get Broekhoff and maybe even Vashil to the NBA that'd be awesome.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 11, 2018, 11:15:18 PM
I have to wonder if that performance may lead to a recruiting boost. It proves you CAN go to the NBA from Valpo and succeed. Potential recruits may take notice of that. Having NBA talent on other rosters in our conference like Milton Doyle (Loyola) Alize Johnson (Missouri State) and potentially others like Milik Yarbrough (Illinois State) won't hurt either. We've got plenty of good basketball and hopefully some really good Valpo teams coming for the foreseeable future. Now if we could just get Broekhoff and maybe even Vashil to the NBA that'd be awesome.
Maybe, hard to ignore a Valpo alum dropping 30+ in an NBA game. But it's all for not if he doesn't keep (at a minimum) a two-way contract.
The pitch to recruits has viability if he's still visible. Becomes a little less effective as time moves by.
He did go 4+ months without getting to play before the NBA season started due to injury. He did not get to participate in summer league and had a crazy schedule going back and forth from NBA to G-League.
I gotta think the suns or another NBA team are going to give him some more time to prove himself. It is a huge step up in competition going to the NBA. Based on his last 2 games he was getting better, even if it was against tanking teams.
I think he will get 3 years. Last year and 2 more years. If he can't carve out a role by then he will be off to Europe.
Just my :twocents:
I have watched the NBA over time -- most of it is a non-motivated circus. I am convinced that Alec has a significant role ahead of him IF the powers that be sort out what they really need and how he can meet that need. Alec, IMO, would flourish with a team that reveres the unselfish TEAM approach (San Antonio and the Celtics come to mind) and dedication to continuous improvement (SF comes to mind). The guy can shoot. He is unafraid to rebound. He can post up in the right NBA situations. He will go to the floor for a ball. He will sacrifice himself for the greater good. It will take the right organization to recognize and optimize this young man's great potential.
Rowdy is cut from the same cloth. Both these professionals deserve a bigger stage.
NWIU NOTES: Peters shines in final game of rookie season
Paul Oren Times Correspondent
19 hrs ago
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/nwiu-notes-peters-shines-in-final-game-of-rookie-season/article_73563535-1fb6-57e8-acc3-74718eefd45b.html
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Quality guy, and I do believe he earned more than a 2-way contract going into this next season. I would take him on my Mavs, especially since he torched us, and we need scoring :)
Always said Alec Peters would look great in CELTIC Green :thumbsup:
Me too, but they have Gordon coming back next season ( :( for Alec).
After the way the Pacers were shooting against the Cavs and Lebron last night I am inclined to take anyone that can score 36 points in a game. Obviously this is when I truly start watching the NBA.
The Suns have hired a new head coach, former Utah Jazz assistant Igor Kokoskov. He's apparently quite good at developing young talent. We'll have to wait and see what this means, if anything, for Alec.
Vote for AP!
https://twitter.com/FatherHarry1/status/1010214458218696704
Donte Ingram who just signed a Summer League deal with the Bulls didn't make sure poll huh? Oh well the answer's Peters anyway.
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Donte Ingram who just signed a Summer League deal with the Bulls didn't make sure poll huh? Oh well the answer's Peters anyway.
Ingram is a good player but I don't think he's in the same class as the others. Ingram is glue guy. I also think there is some goodwill "PR" in this Ingram signing specifically to the Bulls. I think he certainly could be a D-League caliber player and could play at a high level in Europe somewhere.
The Suns traded up to get Bridges and will be renouncing Elfrid Payton Alex Len. How do you think this impacts Alec's future with the team?
Elfrid Payton Alex Len Is that one guy? Wow! ;)
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The Suns traded up to get Bridges and will be renouncing Elfrid Payton Alex Len. How do you think this impacts Alec's future with the team?
It doesn't; Payton is a point guard, Len a center. The trade for Bridges hurts because he can probably play both forward positions. The guy they drafted and traded was a SF only.
It sounds like AP isn't playing in the summer league. Last I heard is that he's been working out in Arizona during the offseason.
https://twitter.com/FatherHarry1/status/1013096047294468096
Trevor Ariza to Phoenix 1 year $15million is bad news for Alec.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on June 30, 2018, 11:51:18 PM
Trevor Ariza to Phoenix 1 year $15million is bad news for Alec.
Not sure about that. Ariza is more of a SF/SG. Anyone who can actually play defense alongside Alec is a benefit for him.
I mean his roster spot. Phoenix already has a ton of guys who can play the 2-4. Anyone new coming in the take minutes at the 3\4 squeezes Alec's minutes.
If only Sam Hinkie were still the GM in Philadelphia. He'd take a chance on Peters' size and shooting ability.
I'm not buying yet that the Ariza trade is bad news for Alec. I'd look for Phoenix to trade or release at least a couple of their expensive forwards (ie. Warren, Chriss, Bender, Williams, maybe even Jackson) in order to get the point guard they need. Alec's advantages are that he can play PF (Ariza, is at SF or SF/SG) and his salary would be the least expensive to support.
I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
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I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
Technically, he is an unrestricted free agent, but it appears he would be added to the team if roster room and salary space open for him after trades. He could be signed to a minimum salary contract or possibly even another two-way contract. The free agent period begins today, and free agents can reach verbal agreements, but there is a moratorium period until July 6, which is when free agents can be signed. Alec might not know his future for a couple of weeks after the dust settles.
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I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
Washington native Alec Peters named to Phoenix Suns Summer League rosterBy Aaron Ferguson
Posted Jul 1, 2018 at 3:18 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart
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I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
Washington native Alec Peters named to Phoenix Suns Summer League roster
By Aaron Ferguson
Posted Jul 1, 2018 at 3:18 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart
That is a relief!
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Quote from: IndyValpo on July 01, 2018, 07:48:03 AM
I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
Washington native Alec Peters named to Phoenix Suns Summer League roster
By Aaron Ferguson
Posted Jul 1, 2018 at 3:18 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart (https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart)
That is a relief!
Interesting note that three Suns players at PF were omitted from the roster: Chriss, Warren, and Williams. As I mentioned previously, I expect at least two of them will be traded (most likely for a PG), making room for Alec if he performs well during the summer games.
By the way, the first game for Phoenix is Friday at 8:30 CT on ESPN against the Mavericks.
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Quote from: IndyValpo on July 01, 2018, 07:48:03 AM
I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
Washington native Alec Peters named to Phoenix Suns Summer League roster
By Aaron Ferguson
Posted Jul 1, 2018 at 3:18 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart (https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart)
That is a relief!
Interesting note that three Suns players at PF were omitted from the roster: Chriss, Warren, and Williams. As I mentioned previously, I expect at least two of them will be traded (most likely for a PG), making room for Alec if he performs well during the summer games.
By the way, the first game for Phoenix is Friday at 8:30 CT on ESPN against the Mavericks.
More interesting notes: Alec gave his #25 to the rookie Mikal Bridges and he will be wearing #14 instead. Also, another former VU recruiting target, Tai Odiase (UIC), will be on the team.
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I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
Washington native Alec Peters named to Phoenix Suns Summer League roster
By Aaron Ferguson
Posted Jul 1, 2018 at 3:18 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart (https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart)
That is a relief!
Interesting note that three Suns players at PF were omitted from the roster: Chriss, Warren, and Williams. As I mentioned previously, I expect at least two of them will be traded (most likely for a PG), making room for Alec if he performs well during the summer games.
It looks like Phoenix might even move all three. The news reports today state that the Suns have waived Williams. More possible room on the roster for Alec.
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I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
Washington native Alec Peters named to Phoenix Suns Summer League roster
By Aaron Ferguson
Posted Jul 1, 2018 at 3:18 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart (https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart)
That is a relief!
Interesting note that three Suns players at PF were omitted from the roster: Chriss, Warren, and Williams. As I mentioned previously, I expect at least two of them will be traded (most likely for a PG), making room for Alec if he performs well during the summer games.
It looks like Phoenix might even move all three. The news reports today state that the Suns have waived Williams. More possible room on the roster for Alec.
https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/1013834582959853568
https://twitter.com/sbordow/status/1013837023726071809
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Quote from: wh on July 01, 2018, 04:31:11 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on July 01, 2018, 07:48:03 AM
I am not sure Alec is even with the Suns. He is not being listed as playing on the summer league
Washington native Alec Peters named to Phoenix Suns Summer League roster
By Aaron Ferguson
Posted Jul 1, 2018 at 3:18 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart (https://www.google.com/amp/www.pjstar.com/sports/20180701/washington-native-alec-peters-named-to-phoenix-suns-summer-league-roster%3ftemplate=ampart)
That is a relief!
Interesting note that three Suns players at PF were omitted from the roster: Chriss, Warren, and Williams. As I mentioned previously, I expect at least two of them will be traded (most likely for a PG), making room for Alec if he performs well during the summer games.
By the way, the first game for Phoenix is Friday at 8:30 CT on ESPN against the Mavericks.
It wouldn't make sense for any of the 3 players listed to participate in the summer league. So I would not recommend reading into that.
AP won't be rocking #25 next season. He's being a good sport and giving it to Mikal Bridges.
https://twitter.com/esidery/status/1013558602223808512
Can anyone confirm this? I know he's playing with their Summer League team this Summer.
https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1013941214222176258
I would trust that report. He's pretty plugged in.
Quote from: VU2014 on July 05, 2018, 08:45:04 AM
Can anyone confirm this? I know he's playing with their Summer League team this Summer.
https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1013941214222176258
What does "renounce free agent rights" mean?
Any team can sign him now, but he probably stays with the Suns, plays on their SL team. He might get another two way contract, but having this happen after SL rosters were set is crappy. But that's what happens when you happen to get drafted by a trash organization.
Quote from: a3uge on July 05, 2018, 10:03:44 AM
Any team can sign him now, but he probably stays with the Suns, plays on their SL team. He might get another two way contract, but having this happen after SL rosters were set is crappy. But that's what happens when you happen to get drafted by a trash organization.
I understand why they did it, because they don't want to risk losing him to another team that may have had interested in AP. I seems like the Suns organization likes him as a depth option but it's crowded in that Suns locker room.
I mentioned a week ago that Phoenix would designate Alec as unrestricted free agent, since the free agent period was about to start. Phoenix also cleared others from their roster/salary cap space. They needed space to sign Ariza, and they are trying to trade for a PG. But it appears Alec would be added to the team if roster room and salary space open for him after trades. Alec's advantage is that he could be signed to a minimum salary contract (or possibly even another two-way contract). There is a free-agent moratorium period until July 6, which is when free agents can be signed. Alec might not know his future for a couple of weeks after the dust settles. Nevertheless, if he does well in Summer League, Phoenix could re-sign him or, now that he is an unrestricted free agent, he could pick up interest from another team. Interestingly, a couple of higher-paid PF roster players for Phoenix were not included on the Summer League team and are likely to be traded: Warren and Chriss. This would open up room for Alec. Similar to Alec, Alan Williams, another PF, also was waived by the Suns but could now be re-signed by Phoenix at a lower salary. Again, if Alec performs well in the Summer League, I would be surprised to not see him on an NBA roster, most likely back on the Suns.
Wow. A bumpy ride with ups and downs for sure. No question he can shoot from a spot with a quick release.
If Phoenix does not sign Alec, the Indy Star notes that the Pacers are possibly looking to add a 3-point shooting PF to fill out their roster (which still has 3 openings), and the addition must be in the lower-level salary range to work in their limited budget. They mention Alec as one of the handful of players who fit this description and could receive some consideration. Pure speculation and a long shot at best, especially since Phoenix has invested in Alec and I expect them to take a chance on him going forward; however, it would be great to see Alec back in Indiana and playing in the Eastern Conference.
https://twitter.com/IndyStarSports/status/1014949535032987650
I'm not concerned. I'm confident he'll get another opportunity. The man scored 37 points in a game as a rookie. You'd think that's gotta be worth a second look to some team.
I hardly recognize Alec wearing #14! However, same 3-point shot!
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Dallas Mavericks play Phoenix Suns in summer league tonight on ESPN at 8:30 CT. I hear Rowdy will be there but not expected to play tonight. Too bad, it would be an opportunity to see him on the court with Alec. However, I look forward to a photo of the pair in their NBA uniforms.
I wonder if this will be the first time that they've met, in spite of knowing that Alec was recruited to fill Rowdy's shoes?
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I wonder if this will be the first time that they've met, in spite of knowing that Alec was recruited to fill Rowdy's shoes?
They've met. Alec met Rowdy a few times on his visits during his recruitment. I'm not sure how well they will know each other.
I checked the Dallas Mavericks Summer League roster and Ryan wasn't listed. He just officially signed so he might be playing tonight or maybe at all in the
NBA SL.
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I wonder if this will be the first time that they've met, in spite of knowing that Alec was recruited to fill Rowdy's shoes?
They've met. Alec met Rowdy a few times on his visits during his recruitment. I'm not sure how well they will know each other.
I checked the Dallas Mavericks Summer League roster and Ryan wasn't listed. He just officially signed so he might be playing tonight or maybe at all in the
NBA SL.
Broekhoff is a bit old for SL. These are usually first or second year players. There's not much to learn from Ryan; he's a pretty known commodity after 5 years of international play.
The box score of the last Suns summer league game showed Alec only played 15 minutes. He did have 9 points and was 50% from 3 point land. Is good or bad that he's only playing 15 minutes?
Quote from: oklahomamick on July 08, 2018, 09:04:06 PM
The box score of the last Suns summer league game showed Alec only played 15 minutes. He did have 9 points and was 50% from 3 point land. Is good or bad that he's only playing 15 minutes?
http://www.nba.com/games/20180707/PHXSAC#/boxscore
The Suns dressed 14 players. Alec had the 7th most minutes. It's also important to remember that summer league games are only 40 minutes - not 48. His biggest negative was committing 3 fouls in his 15 minutes.
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Quote from: oklahomamick on July 08, 2018, 09:04:06 PM
The box score of the last Suns summer league game showed Alec only played 15 minutes. He did have 9 points and was 50% from 3 point land. Is good or bad that he's only playing 15 minutes?
http://www.nba.com/games/20180707/PHXSAC#/boxscore (http://www.nba.com/games/20180707/PHXSAC#/boxscore)
The Suns dressed 14 players. Alec had the 7th most minutes. It's also important to remember that summer league games are only 40 minutes - not 48. His biggest negative was committing 3 fouls in his 15 minutes.
Put in perspective, the starting PF for whom Alec subbed, Dragan Bender, played 24 minutes and scored 0 points, shot 0-5 (0-4 3-pt.).
One more game for PHX tonight at 8:30CT on NBA TV( until they start the summer league tournament in 2 days). I watched a good portion of the 2 games so far . Offensively Alec is an NBA player no question, but he has trouble moving his feet on defense. If a guy has a decent handle he can get around Alec, and teams are figuring out how to expose him. I still think he should be able to come off the bench as the 8th or 9th man during the season . The first game he was passive , and I think he needs to take advantage of mismatches because he is a solid post player. Hopefully he gets 20 minutes tonight and puts in a solid showing!
https://twitter.com/ClevisMurray/status/1016383647337742339
Alec had 0 points in 12 minutes last night. Not what he needs right now (says Captain Obvious).
http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/ORLPHX#/boxscore
Quote from: wh on July 10, 2018, 02:09:03 PMAlec had 0 points in 12 minutes last night. Not what he needs right now (says Captain Obvious). http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/ORLPHX#/boxscore
Only attempted 1 shot though. Didn't watch the game and obviously going off for 20+ points would help, but I'm sure context matters to say if it was a poor showing or not. Did he pass up a bunch of open shots? was he double teamed at the three point line? Were specific plays called to get other teammates shots?
I watched about 10 mins or so when Alec played last night during the first half against the Magic. I didn't see him take any shots during that period so his shot attempt must have been in the second half. He really didn't have any opportunities to score when I was watching and he didn't press to get any shots off because that isn't how he plays. It was a lot of one on one type playing for the Suns and a lot of DeAndre Ayton.
Seeing as AP's draft was over a year ago, how about if this thread goes away and posts about him appear in a new & more current thread?
Valpo84 just has to reply with a change of the subject to like "Alec in the NBA."