Who is on our schedule for 13-14? Is there a rough draft out there?
I think we'll be playing
Kent State - Home
Saint Louis - Home
IPFW - Away
IUPUI - Away
Murray State - Home
Loyola Marymount - Home
I think MSU and SLU were home at home series. I would assume the same for Kent State, and IPFW/IUPUI is a yearly thing. LMU is the bracketbuster return game. Anyone else is a surprise. Like always I think there will be a few more MAC teams on the schedule, would like to see one of their better teams. Hopefully they can schedule strong competition with higher leagues as well, but not against teams we wouldn't have a chance. Don't want to see a top 5 seed on the schedule. Perhaps a few 10+ seeds though.
Quote from: classof2014 on May 10, 2013, 11:40:50 AM
I think we'll be playing
Kent State - Home
Saint Louis - Home
IPFW - Away
IUPUI - Away
Murray State - Home
Loyola Marymount - Home
I think MSU and SLU were home at home series. I would assume the same for Kent State, and IPFW/IUPUI is a yearly thing. LMU is the bracketbuster return game. Anyone else is a surprise. Like always I think there will be a few more MAC teams on the schedule, would like to see one of their better teams. Hopefully they can schedule strong competition with higher leagues as well, but not against teams we wouldn't have a chance. Don't want to see a top 5 seed on the schedule. Perhaps a few 10+ seeds though.
I thought that Nebraska was an "away/then a return home game 2-year series", similar to what was arranged with SLU, MSU, and New Mexico before the new head coach at New Mexico decided to buy his way out of the return game at Valpo. I haven't heard anything re: Nebraska in terms of a buyout of the return game. I do hope we get them at the ARC this year. Other than Purdue, it is rare for a B1G team to visit our friendly confines.
I would personally like to see us start up a series with Davidson if it is at all possible. That would be a nice mid-major series IMO, something that could replace the defunct Bracketbuster games we've played in terms of playing another mid-major school with a decent RPI. I'd also assume our days of playing Butler are over. Would be nice to continue that series, if not every year maybe every other year or so. Of course, Butler probably would want a 2 or 3 for 1 deal, which would rule them out. Also, are we tourney eligible this coming season in terms of playing in an early season tourney?
I wonder if we owe Northern Illinois a return game in De Kalb this year, or was that a one and done deal as part of the ESPN 24 hour hoops marathon to open last season?
Quote from: vufan75 on May 10, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
Quote from: classof2014 on May 10, 2013, 11:40:50 AM
I think we'll be playing
Kent State - Home
Saint Louis - Home
IPFW - Away
IUPUI - Away
Murray State - Home
Loyola Marymount - Home
I think MSU and SLU were home at home series. I would assume the same for Kent State, and IPFW/IUPUI is a yearly thing. LMU is the bracketbuster return game. Anyone else is a surprise. Like always I think there will be a few more MAC teams on the schedule, would like to see one of their better teams. Hopefully they can schedule strong competition with higher leagues as well, but not against teams we wouldn't have a chance. Don't want to see a top 5 seed on the schedule. Perhaps a few 10+ seeds though.
I thought that Nebraska was an "away/then a return home game 2-year series", similar to what was arranged with SLU, MSU, and New Mexico before the new head coach at New Mexico decided to buy his way out of the return game at Valpo. I haven't heard anything re: Nebraska in terms of a buyout of the return game. I do hope we get them at the ARC this year. Other than Purdue, it is rare for a B1G team to visit our friendly confines.
I would personally like to see us start up a series with Davidson if it is at all possible. That would be a nice mid-major series IMO, something that could replace the defunct Bracketbuster games we've played in terms of playing another mid-major school with a decent RPI. I'd also assume our days of playing Butler are over. Would be nice to continue that series, if not every year maybe every other year or so. Of course, Butler probably would want a 2 or 3 for 1 deal, which would rule them out. Also, are we tourney eligible this coming season in terms of playing in an early season tourney?
I wonder if we owe Northern Illinois a return game in De Kalb this year, or was that a one and done deal as part of the ESPN 24 hour hoops marathon to open last season?
Someone mentioned that we still get to host UNM, just not this year. They didn't buy out of the agreement, unless there was another recent announcement.
Quote from: valpotx on May 10, 2013, 01:54:09 PM
Quote from: vufan75 on May 10, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
Quote from: classof2014 on May 10, 2013, 11:40:50 AM
I think we'll be playing
Kent State - Home
Saint Louis - Home
IPFW - Away
IUPUI - Away
Murray State - Home
Loyola Marymount - Home
I think MSU and SLU were home at home series. I would assume the same for Kent State, and IPFW/IUPUI is a yearly thing. LMU is the bracketbuster return game. Anyone else is a surprise. Like always I think there will be a few more MAC teams on the schedule, would like to see one of their better teams. Hopefully they can schedule strong competition with higher leagues as well, but not against teams we wouldn't have a chance. Don't want to see a top 5 seed on the schedule. Perhaps a few 10+ seeds though.
I thought that Nebraska was an "away/then a return home game 2-year series", similar to what was arranged with SLU, MSU, and New Mexico before the new head coach at New Mexico decided to buy his way out of the return game at Valpo. I haven't heard anything re: Nebraska in terms of a buyout of the return game. I do hope we get them at the ARC this year. Other than Purdue, it is rare for a B1G team to visit our friendly confines.
I would personally like to see us start up a series with Davidson if it is at all possible. That would be a nice mid-major series IMO, something that could replace the defunct Bracketbuster games we've played in terms of playing another mid-major school with a decent RPI. I'd also assume our days of playing Butler are over. Would be nice to continue that series, if not every year maybe every other year or so. Of course, Butler probably would want a 2 or 3 for 1 deal, which would rule them out. Also, are we tourney eligible this coming season in terms of playing in an early season tourney?
I wonder if we owe Northern Illinois a return game in De Kalb this year, or was that a one and done deal as part of the ESPN 24 hour hoops marathon to open last season?
Someone mentioned that we still get to host UNM, just not this year. They didn't buy out of the agreement, unless there was another recent announcement.
You are correct, valpotx. I went surfing and found the following to confirm what you said. Thanks for clarifying for me. :thumbsup:
http://oneclicksportsnow.com/lobos-basketball-final-field-set-for-charleston-classic/ (http://oneclicksportsnow.com/lobos-basketball-final-field-set-for-charleston-classic/)
Lobos basketball: Final field set for Charleston ClassicPosted on: 04/10/2013 - 12:20 PM Source: By Geoff Grammer / Journal Staff Writer [permalink]
ESPN Regional Television on Wednesday released the names of the complete field for the Nov. 21-24 Charleston (S.C.) Classic that includes the New Mexico Lobos.
UNM and five other teams — Clemson, Georgia, Nebraska, Temple and Alabama-Birmingham — have been locked into the eight team event for several months. Wednesday it was announced Davidson, who UNM opened the 2012-13 season with in an ESPN game televised at midnight, and Massachusetts will complete the field.
The non-exempt tournament will be played at TD Arena in Charleston, S.C.
It is not yet clear how the tournament bracket will be seeded. When UNM played in the Paradise Jam tournament last November in the U.S. Virgin Islands, the event was seeded by the previous season's final RPI rankings. UNM's RPI ranking of No. 2 in the 2012-13 season would make the Lobos the No. 1 seed if the Charleston Classic uses the same format.
UNM, Temple and Davidson were each in this past season's NCAA Tournament while UMass participated in the NIT.
Here are the 2012-13 records and final RPI rankings for the eight teams in the Charleston Classic Field:
UNM Lobos (29-6; RPI 2)
Temple Owls (24-10; RPI 41)
Massachusetts Minutemen (21-12; RPI 56)
Davidson Wildcats (26-8; RPI 61)
Nebraska Cornhuskers (15-18; RPI 103)
Georgia Bulldogs (15-17; RPI 140)
UAB Blazers (16-17; RPI 145)
Clemson Tigers (13-18; RPI 185)
For more information, visit www.charlestonclassic.com (http://www.charlestonclassic.com).
More scheduling
UNM still has several holes to fill for the 2013-14 schedule and need to get to 16 home games to reach budget projections.
What is pinned down so far for what the team hopes will be a 31-game regular season schedule (dates are TBD unless noted):
18 Mountain West Conference games (nine at home, nine on the road)
3 neutral games in the Charleston Classic (Nov. 21-24)
2 games with New Mexico State (one in the Pit, one in Las Cruces)
1 neutral court game with either Stanford or Washington in an ESPN-televised game at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nev., on Dec. 20
1 neutral court game with Kansas to be played in Kansas City
1 home game with Cincinnati (the back end of a home-and-home contract)
That is a total of 26 games (11 at home, 11 on road or neutral court games). UNM still has five games to schedule, all of which will have to be home games to get to the 16 home games needed for budgetary purposes.
Note1 : One of the remaining unfilled home games is likely to be against Nebraska and former Colorado State head coach Tim Miles. Because UNM and Nebraska are in the same exempt tournament (the Charleston Classic), the NCAA allows them to play within two weeks of the event, which allows both teams to then schedule 31 games instead of standard limit of 30 regular season games. As of Wednesday, the contract between the two schools has not been finalized.
Note 2: UNM owes a road game to Valparaiso as part of a home-and-home contract that had Valpo come to the Pit last December. Valpo agreed to push that game back to 2014-15 season so UNM can participate in the Dec. 20 game in Las Vegas, Nev.
Quote from: vufan75 on May 10, 2013, 01:08:16 PM
Quote from: classof2014 on May 10, 2013, 11:40:50 AM
I think we'll be playing
Kent State - Home
Saint Louis - Home
IPFW - Away
IUPUI - Away
Murray State - Home
Loyola Marymount - Home
I think MSU and SLU were home at home series. I would assume the same for Kent State, and IPFW/IUPUI is a yearly thing. LMU is the bracketbuster return game. Anyone else is a surprise. Like always I think there will be a few more MAC teams on the schedule, would like to see one of their better teams. Hopefully they can schedule strong competition with higher leagues as well, but not against teams we wouldn't have a chance. Don't want to see a top 5 seed on the schedule. Perhaps a few 10+ seeds though.
I thought that Nebraska was an "away/then a return home game 2-year series", similar to what was arranged with SLU, MSU, and New Mexico before the new head coach at New Mexico decided to buy his way out of the return game at Valpo. I haven't heard anything re: Nebraska in terms of a buyout of the return game. I do hope we get them at the ARC this year. Other than Purdue, it is rare for a B1G team to visit our friendly confines.
I would personally like to see us start up a series with Davidson if it is at all possible. That would be a nice mid-major series IMO, something that could replace the defunct Bracketbuster games we've played in terms of playing another mid-major school with a decent RPI. I'd also assume our days of playing Butler are over. Would be nice to continue that series, if not every year maybe every other year or so. Of course, Butler probably would want a 2 or 3 for 1 deal, which would rule them out. Also, are we tourney eligible this coming season in terms of playing in an early season tourney?
I wonder if we owe Northern Illinois a return game in De Kalb this year, or was that a one and done deal as part of the ESPN 24 hour hoops marathon to open last season?
The Nebraska, Kent State, Chicago State and Bethune-Cookman games were all part of the Nebraska "exempt tournament". Those are typically one game deals with no contractual return games.
The NCAA now allows schools to participate in exempt tournaments every year ... the only limitation is you can only play a particular tournament (ie. Great Alaskan Shootout, Maui Classic) once every 4 years.
We don't have a return game with Northern Illinois this season. We played them in DeKalb in 2011-12, and they played at the ARC in 2012-13. The ESPN deal might have been that we had to schedule a game for that day to participate in it, and the NIU game was a perfect game to do that, as it was an early game in the season that let a lot of our players get some good court time. Think of how dominating we would have been in this game had Bobby not started feeling some of the affects of the injury that required surgery early last season?
Don't we have a return trip to Northern Kentucky as a payback for this year's Buster game?
Quote from: talksalot on May 11, 2013, 08:48:24 PM
Don't we have a return trip to Northern Kentucky as a payback for this year's Buster game?
if northern = eastern then yes. yes we do.
I believe that we can delay the BB return game 1 year, as LMU did that to us this last season.
With the Bracketbuster being no more, is it even a requirement to have the "return game" for the 2013 game? Sure, having Loyola Marymount and Eastern Kentucky on the schedule is two less games to work into the schedule for finding teams, but are they even necessary to "return"?
99% of the Bracket Buster games over the last five years have had the game returned two years later - that is the norm now, not the exception (to help keep road/home balance). Yes, the 2013 Bracket Buster games will be returned.
Haven't seen this mentioned yet; one of our away games will be at Ohio University:
http://www.athensohiotoday.com/blogs/bobcat_blog/non-conference-basketball-schedule-taking-shape/article_ca018c5e-c4e8-5d77-b46b-1acd5cbfee87.html (http://www.athensohiotoday.com/blogs/bobcat_blog/non-conference-basketball-schedule-taking-shape/article_ca018c5e-c4e8-5d77-b46b-1acd5cbfee87.html)
When are the Schedules gonna come out!? Ive been waiting so long. :'(
Quote from: Valpofan00 on August 09, 2013, 12:22:46 PM
When are the Schedules gonna come out!? Ive been waiting so long. :'(
Schedules the last few years have been released sometime later in August or early September, once all contracts are signed. Hopefully just a few more weeks and we will know.
Pencil on your schedule a home game against Mercer on Nov. 29.
What about tournaments? Cancun, Bahamas, Alaska?
No tip-off marathon for us this year:
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/87213/espn-tip-off-marathon-running-schedule (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/87213/espn-tip-off-marathon-running-schedule)
For what it is worth, I heard a rumor that we might play an exhibition against University of Rio Grande, who played Cleveland State last year. No big deal and nothing confirmed yet.
Something is just wrong when there is a University of Rio Grande in Ohio...
Quote from: valpotx on August 13, 2013, 10:58:49 AMSomething is just wrong when there is a University of Rio Grande in Ohio...
Serves me right for mocking them so hard in the Non-Con wrap up last year.
Make sure you pronounce it right, though, Tex--it's RYE-oh, and for once I'm not even making stuff up
Wow, seriously? Does anyone know why they are called such a thing, when the "grand/large river' is in CO/NM/TX? I couldn't find anything on wikipedia.
Quote from: valpotx on August 14, 2013, 10:07:59 AM
Wow, seriously? Does anyone know why they are called such a thing, when the "grand/large river' is in CO/NM/TX? I couldn't find anything on wikipedia.
The college is in Rio Grande, Ohio (est 1874). Out of curiosity I emailed the email address of their village website, but it might be severely out of date and unused. Wikipedia says it's named after the river in the south, but who knows.
Quote from: valpopal on August 10, 2013, 09:33:35 AM
Pencil on your schedule a home game against Mercer on Nov. 29.
This game and the game at Ohio U. are part of an exempt "tournament". Valpo should also get games against Evansville and Alcorn State.
Some trivia on Rio Grande College...years ago, perhaps in the 50's, Rio had the leading scorer in all of college basketball for at least 1 year...his name was Bevo Francis. Wth a name like Bevo he had to go to a school named Rio Grande in Ohio, right? Anyway, if I remember correctly he averaged well into the 30's ppg range. I believe he was around 6'8" which at that time was a "big guy" and hard to stop. I think he was a pretty good outside shooter also.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on August 14, 2013, 09:12:55 AM
Quote from: valpotx on August 13, 2013, 10:58:49 AMSomething is just wrong when there is a University of Rio Grande in Ohio...
Serves me right for mocking them so hard in the Non-Con wrap up last year.
Make sure you pronounce it right, though, Tex--it's RYE-oh, and for once I'm not even making stuff up
♫ There was an old farmer who had a loaf of bread and RYE-oh was it's name-oh ♫
♫ R-Y-Eeeeee, -O, R-Y-Eeeee, -O, R-Y-Eeee, -O, and RYE-O was it's name-o ♫
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bevo_Francis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bevo_Francis)
Bevo Francis, teammate Al Schreiber, and his coach Newt Oliver later signed with Boston Whirlwinds, a barnstorming team that played against the Harlem Globetrotters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlem_Globetrotters). He was subsequently drafted by Philadelphia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Warriors) of the NBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Basketball_Association), but opted to return home to his wife and family.
Quote from: a3uge on August 14, 2013, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: valpotx on August 14, 2013, 10:07:59 AM
Wow, seriously? Does anyone know why they are called such a thing, when the "grand/large river' is in CO/NM/TX? I couldn't find anything on wikipedia.
The college is in Rio Grande, Ohio (est 1874). Out of curiosity I emailed the email address of their village website, but it might be severely out of date and unused. Wikipedia says it's named after the river in the south, but who knows.
This can't be much stranger than Valparaiso, IN, can it? But, as for Valpo, there might be a good story.
I heard a good one for my ancestral home town of Eleva, WI recently. Apparently it was New Chicago, but there was a grain elevator - partially painted? - that got as far as Eleva(tor) and the name stuck. People seem serious about the story!
Quote from: agibson on August 15, 2013, 09:50:05 AM
Quote from: a3uge on August 14, 2013, 10:48:10 AM
Quote from: valpotx on August 14, 2013, 10:07:59 AM
Wow, seriously? Does anyone know why they are called such a thing, when the "grand/large river' is in CO/NM/TX? I couldn't find anything on wikipedia.
The college is in Rio Grande, Ohio (est 1874). Out of curiosity I emailed the email address of their village website, but it might be severely out of date and unused. Wikipedia says it's named after the river in the south, but who knows.
This can't be much stranger than Valparaiso, IN, can it? But, as for Valpo, there might be a good story.
I heard a good one for my ancestral home town of Eleva, WI recently. Apparently it was New Chicago, but there was a grain elevator - partially painted? - that got as far as Eleva(tor) and the name stuck. People seem serious about the story!
That's an 'eleva story!
(Had to get that in before Apostle)
The guy at Grinnell that broke the NCAA (at any level) record for scoring in a game broke Bevo Francis' record. I saw that on Wikipedia, but also remember it being mentioned last season when the record was broken.
Hello guys. Thought I would let you know that you will be playing at East Tennessee State this year. We will return the trip next season. I don't have the date of the game yet, I just know it will take place.
ETSUfans.com
Quote from: ETSUfan1 on August 18, 2013, 02:25:44 PM
Hello guys. Thought I would let you know that you will be playing at East Tennessee State this year. We will return the trip next season. I don't have the date of the game yet, I just know it will take place.
ETSUfans.com
Thanks for sharing. What's the outlook for the Buccaneers this coming season?
We will be young. Last season was a disaster (10-22), the most losses ever for an ETSU team. This will pretty much be the last hurrah for our coach Murry Bartow (Gene's son) unless he can figure out a way to finish near the top of the ASUN. We don't have a lot of size and will have to hope the new players can come in and compete immediately. I am glad to be playing Valpo. I always enjoy playing schools that we've never played or haven't played in some time. Good luck this season.
I see someone on your board said, Valpo is really nice but there's whispers of playing that one at Freedom Hall. Are we talking THE Freedom Hall? Do you know anything about this? Tournament, or something?
http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=640087&page=6 (http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=640087&page=6)
No. Johnson City's Civic Center is named Freedom Hall. Basically our basketball arena is in the center of a small domed football stadium. The university is looking at moving a few games to the civic center this year to see how that would work. Freedom Hall is about 5 minutes off campus.
Got it. Thanks and good luck this season to the Buccaneers!
Does ETSUfan1 know that Gene Bartow used to coach at Valpo and is a member our our Hall of Fame?
Bevo averaged 50.1 (adjusted to 48.3 in NCAA record books because the NCAA didn't count some games) and 46.5 ppg in 2 seasons at Rio Grande. He scored 113 in a game against Hillsdale, the NCAA record until last year. Rio Grande played a freaky schedule that included lots of small schools but also Villanova (lost 93-92 in OT), Providence (won), North Carolina State (lost), and Wake Forest (won).
Quote from: Pathfinder on August 18, 2013, 08:16:49 PMBevo averaged 50.1 (adjusted to 48.3 in NCAA record books because the NCAA didn't count some games) and 46.5 ppg in 2 seasons at Rio Grande. He scored 113 in a game against Hillsdale, the NCAA record until last year. Rio Grande played a freaky schedule that included lots of small schools but also Villanova (lost 93-92 in OT), Providence (won), North Carolina State (lost), and Wake Forest (won).
I wonder if Bevo was named after the non-alcoholic drink that Anheuser Busch brewed during prohibition.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlylehold/6649786865/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlylehold/6649786865/#)
We can add to the schedule a home exhibition game against Chicago's North Park University on Nov. 10.
Not to steal from my own blog on the non-con season last year but:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51594Y9XKCL._SY346_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Basketball-Rio-Grande-College-Legend/dp/0967728401 (http://www.amazon.com/Basketball-Rio-Grande-College-Legend/dp/0967728401)
'book report on' :
http://www.rioredstorm.com/f/Bevo.php (http://www.rioredstorm.com/f/Bevo.php)
also good:
http://smallcollegebasketball.tumblr.com/post/1124251547/the-incredible-story-of-the-legendary-bevo-francis (http://smallcollegebasketball.tumblr.com/post/1124251547/the-incredible-story-of-the-legendary-bevo-francis)
Historyman, per usual, was right on the history:
Quotehe is widely known as Bevo, a name which he got from the name of a beer that his Dad drank
Thread has gotten confusing...to recap the relevant data:
Home
Rio Grande (exhibitionist)
North Park (exh.; Trey Parker & Matt Stone were unavailable)
Kent State (next year? we're not on their schedule: http://www.kentstatesports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball (http://www.kentstatesports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball))
Saint Louis (not announced...yet? http://www.slubillikens.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&SPID=93215&SPSID=632626 (http://www.slubillikens.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&SPID=93215&SPSID=632626))
Murray State
Loyola Marymount
Road
IPFW
IUPUI
EKU (probably next year?)
ETSU
Exempt tournament:
OHIO! -- Away
Mercer -- Home
Evansville
Alcorn St.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on August 19, 2013, 08:56:46 AMSaint Louis (not announced...yet? http://www.slubillikens.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&SPID=93215&SPSID=632626 (http://www.slubillikens.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&SPID=93215&SPSID=632626))
There has been no talk on the SLU board of not playing Valpo. Here is what the SLU posters have so far pieced together of their schedule:
I believe the number after the school name is RPI ranking from last year
2013-2014 Schedule:
11/9 vs. SEMO - 216
11/21 vs. Oral Roberts - 151 (Cancun Challenge, home sites)
11/23 vs. Bowling Green - 274 (Cancun Challenge, home sites)
11/26 @ Wisconsin - 32 (Cancun Challenge, Cancun, Mexico)
11/27 @ West Virginia - 146 or Old Dominion - 318 (Cancun Challenge, Cancun, Mexico)
12/1 vs. Wichita State - 37
12/18 vs. Indiana State - 74
12/30 @ Vanderbilt - 120
1/4 vs. Yale - 198
Dates TBD:
@ Valpo - 58
@ SIUC - 192
@ SIUE - 304
2 home buy games
2 exhibitions
A10 home games: Fordham, GW, Richmond, St. Bonnie, Dayton, Duquesne, George Mason, and VCU
A10 road games: LaSalle, St. Joe's, UMass, Rhode Island, Dayton, Duquesne, George Mason, and VCU
LAA, I think you have your directional parks messed up, but with your sense of humor, how am I supposed to know?
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on August 19, 2013, 08:56:46 AM
Kent State (next year? we're not on their schedule: http://www.kentstatesports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball (http://www.kentstatesports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball))
As mentioned earlier, I doubt that any games from the Nebraska tourney last year had a contractual return game. Those are typically one year deals.
Most of those November-December tourney games don't get returns because they were games that the university didn't have to go find, just had to make space on the home court to play that game. In some ways, the only way a November-December tourney game gets returned is if it was a big ratings grab for ESPN, and they could coerce the two schools to contract a game for the upcoming season at a professional arena with a TV guarantee attached to it, ala Butler-Gonzaga like event.
Quote from: zvillehaze on August 19, 2013, 12:10:08 PMThose are typically one year deals.
I agree; I either did not know, or forgot, that that was part of that "tournament".
'Run, you are close--I was suggesting that we settled for North Park because South wasn't available ;)
I have to wonder if some part of the ETSU contract isn't a favor of some kind for Murry Bartow and the Bartow family. They may (depending on the game date) get a chance to beat a Valpo team that could be very good by the end of the season.
Looks like there could still be some small chance that St Louis could come to town when Keith Carter is eligible but it looks like a longshot bet at this point. I am still hopeful that this might happen as it would greatly add to the fan interest.
How many schedule openings do we still have and do we have any rumors floating around? I just checked the Baylor schedule to see when the boys will match up and I found out that they have left me empty handed again so I must conclude that another year of my life will slip away without a Baylor-Valpo matchup (might be a better chance of all of us being struck by lightning today than of the two teams matching up in some post season tournament this year). To help avoid any future drama maybe we should start a collection to send the Drew parents on vacation to a sequestered from the outside world bridge or pinochle tournament so that the boys can enjoy a little competition next year.
I would also think we should have at least one big school big money game in the works but the rumor mill seems deathly silent. Last year at this time we were posting like mad about our last few opponents and this year nobody seems to know or care. One more rambling thought and I am done. Oh please don't tell me that Chicago St. is back on the schedule!
Hopefully that North Park fan comes back on our board, talking about how they are going to whoop us ::)
You guys have seen the games on the Alumni site, haven't you?
Some of the conference road game dates are set....and there is a Ball State game in Muncie.
For some really foolish reason, there is no cross over between the alumni and athletics websites.
Valpo opens on Friday night, November 8th, at home against Murray State. Good opener with school in session.
Quote from: crusadermoe on August 19, 2013, 06:46:14 PMFor some really foolish reason
Does seem foolish, but I'm guessing it's a product of
a) not wanting to release the schedule piecemeal, as some have done (looks weird, St. Louis), and
b) wanting to prime the pump for road alumni events as soon as possible
I think when the schedule is complete it will be released. One thing that I haven't seen mentioned, and I believe it's a done deal, is a game at Illinois in mid-November.
With all the connections we now have to the state of Illinois - 5 players, 2 asst. coaches, heavy recruiting - a game against Illinois is a great fit. I wonder if it's 1 game only, home and home, 2-for-1?
Quote from: wh on August 20, 2013, 01:04:49 PMWith all the connections we now have to the state of Illinois - 5 players, 2 asst. coaches, heavy recruiting - a game against Illinois is a great fit. I wonder if it's 1 game only, home and home, 2-for-1?
I just don't see Groce coming to the ARC.A game at the United Center would be practically an away game.
I really can't think of a venue, besides the ARC, that truly favors Valpo.
I wouldn't mind playing Illinois in the next few seasons. Much better than when they were very good several years ago
Hey Apostle, I can see the desire to hold back the schedule release until full. That makes sense and the teased out alumni dates also do.
What I have found odd over the past 10 years is that you can never go directly from the "alumni" portion of the site to the athletics part and back easily in a prompted way.
That seems really strange for a place that gains big chunks of identity from the hoops program and also links a lot of alumni events to the games. In the business world, a company in Valpo's market position would have done that overnight in 1998 shortly after "the shot." At least the website looks great now. It used to be pretty primitive.
Quote from: crusadermoe on August 20, 2013, 09:50:32 PMWhat I have found odd over the past 10 years is that you can never go directly from the "alumni" portion of the site to the athletics part and back easily in a prompted way.
You are also right about this, but perhaps (in this at least) the internet mirrors real life, in which it is difficult, nay, painful and impossible for an alum to go back to college and recapture the experience :/
For those of you piecing together the schedule you can add two games (home and away) against the UCF Knights of the new American Athletic Conference.
http://www.ucfknights.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/ucf-m-baskbl-sched.html (http://www.ucfknights.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/ucf-m-baskbl-sched.html)
Also, I know that Alumni Relations has plans to make sure that their events are more accessible from the athletics website this season.
So just looking over these posts, the only possible BCS team is Illinois? I hope I missed something and there's more than 1.
Quote from: milanmiracle on August 22, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
So just looking over these posts, the only possible BCS team is Illinois? I hope I missed something and there's more than 1.
We only had one scheduled last year, and really I think as long as we get some of the top teams from mid-major conferences our schedule will be tough enough.
Quote from: Kyle321n on August 22, 2013, 09:34:17 AM
Quote from: milanmiracle on August 22, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
So just looking over these posts, the only possible BCS team is Illinois? I hope I missed something and there's more than 1.
We only had one scheduled last year, and really I think as long as we get some of the top teams from mid-major conferences our schedule will be tough enough.
And how did that work out with NCAA seeding?
It also does nothing for the Horizon League or brand awareness.
Quote from: milanmiracle on August 22, 2013, 09:43:22 AM
Quote from: Kyle321n on August 22, 2013, 09:34:17 AM
Quote from: milanmiracle on August 22, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
So just looking over these posts, the only possible BCS team is Illinois? I hope I missed something and there's more than 1.
We only had one scheduled last year, and really I think as long as we get some of the top teams from mid-major conferences our schedule will be tough enough.
And how did that work out with NCAA seeding?
It also does nothing for the Horizon League or brand awareness.
How did Montana playing 1 BCS team help THEIR seed? Seeding was based on geography, not 40 point blowouts to UNC or Ohio State. When they can, they move teams a couple seeds if it means a shorter trip. It happened to Davidson and Valpo, as well as others, and it didn't have anything to do with BCS scheduling.
Quote from: a3uge on August 22, 2013, 10:21:42 AMHow did Montana playing 1 BCS team help THEIR seed?
and BOOM goes the dynamite.
anyway--EXCITED about the UCF series, as that's in O-town where my in-laws are.
Short of an FGCU series (Which would be sweet) that's about as good as I can hope for, seeing as I had to work the night of the NIT game in Miami.
I don't get the home and away series in the same season against a non-conference opponent. We did it with Chicago State for a season or two after they 'left' the Mid-Con, to help them with scheduling. I don't understand why we don't have one game this year, and the following game next year?
I like our schedule with them on it though, as they have been decent over the last few seasons.
The UCF schedule shows they have games on successive nights, so perhaps we're playing in a "tournament" there in exchange for a game here. Just a thought. Also, a team playing UCF's schedule should be nearly as good for our RPI as a "BCS" team.
sigh...maybe should have checked the schedule before I exulted.
December 22...not many church musicians who are going to visit the in-laws then.
BRING ON FGCU
It appears that Sliman is correct; the game is listed on the UCF schedule as part of the "Jackson Hewitt UCF Holiday Classic". I would assume that Valpo would receive a 2nd game in this as well since UCF is listed as playing both Rio Grande (Dec. 21) and Valpo (Dec. 22). However after googling the name of the tournament I was unable to find more info on the this Holiday Classic and any other potential teams.
That apparently explains why we are playing the terribly named Rio Grande...located in freaking Ohio...still can't get over this
Take comfort in how it would drive a Frenchman crazy to see that cowboy hat on top of the Eiffel Tower in Paris Texas.
And add Robert Morris to the schedule as the second exhibition game Saturday November 2.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on August 19, 2013, 08:56:46 AM
Thread has gotten confusing...to recap the relevant data:
Home
Rio Grande (exhibitionist)
North Park (exh.; Trey Parker & Matt Stone were unavailable)
Kent State (next year? we're not on their schedule: http://www.kentstatesports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball (http://www.kentstatesports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball))
Saint Louis (not announced...yet? http://www.slubillikens.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&SPID=93215&SPSID=632626 (http://www.slubillikens.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&SPID=93215&SPSID=632626))
Murray State
Loyola Marymount
Road
IPFW
IUPUI
EKU (probably next year?)
ETSU
Exempt tournament:
OHIO! -- Away
Mercer -- Home
Evansville
Alcorn St.
IPFW is not on the schedule this year, and many at IPFW are not too happy about it. IPFW head coach Tony Jasick has put together a really watered down schedule this season which should allow him to win 20 games. Most home games have been moved from the Memorial Coliseum back on campus to the Gates Center and that is the rumored excuse used by VU for not playing here this coming season. I personally believe the game could have been played but Jasick just did not want to stick his neck out with a quality opponent. They will have one of the weakest schedules in Div I.
Looks like LMU will be in town for a Dec 14 2:00 P.M. game. Wonder if that means it might get some kind of ESPN coverage?
Quote from: VU75 on August 24, 2013, 07:57:33 PMAnd add Robert Morris to the schedule as the second exhibition game Saturday November 2.
That would be NAIA Robert Morris Chicago.
Quote from: milanmiracle on August 22, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
So just looking over these posts, the only possible BCS team is Illinois? I hope I missed something and there's more than 1.
Well, the new AAC is not in those 6 traditional BCS conferences, but it more or less is a replacement for the Big East. Yes, the new Big East exists, but it is not a football conference. The AAC includes UConn, Cincy, among others...if we were playing UConn, I don't think anyone would have a problem with it.
Not crazy about a home and home in the same season, but UCF is a quality opponent.
Quote from: ARCInsider on August 25, 2013, 12:47:48 PM
Quote from: milanmiracle on August 22, 2013, 09:27:09 AM
So just looking over these posts, the only possible BCS team is Illinois? I hope I missed something and there's more than 1.
Well, the new AAC is not in those 6 traditional BCS conferences, but it more or less is a replacement for the Big East. Yes, the new Big East exists, but it is not a football conference. The AAC includes UConn, Cincy, among others...if we were playing UConn, I don't think anyone would have a problem with it.
Not crazy about a home and home in the same season, but UCF is a quality opponent.
UCONN, Cincinnati... and you forgot Louisville and Memphis. That's enough to make it a better conference than the PAC12 or SEC this year. But that shouldn't take anything away or give anything to UCF.
I think it's kind of dumb that scheduling Nebraska/Washington St or even UNC/Ohio State looks better to people than scheduling Murray State or other schools that are great mid majors.
.................zzzzzzzzz.....wake me up when someone knows something new. All eyes are turned toward North Dakota this Thursday and football talk will make everyone forget we even have a hoops team. ;D
Quote from: VU75 on August 24, 2013, 07:57:33 PM
Take comfort in how it would drive a Frenchman crazy to see that cowboy hat on top of the Eiffel Tower in Paris Texas.
And add Robert Morris to the schedule as the second exhibition game Saturday November 2.
The French would just surrender before even getting the opportunity to see it ;D
Quote from: FWalum on August 24, 2013, 08:57:54 PMIPFW is not on the schedule this year, and many at IPFW are not too happy about it. IPFW head coach Tony Jasick has put together a really watered down schedule this season which should allow him to win 20 games. Most home games have been moved from the Memorial Coliseum back on campus to the Gates Center and that is the rumored excuse used by VU for not playing here this coming season. I personally believe the game could have been played but Jasick just did not want to stick his neck out with a quality opponent. They will have one of the weakest schedules in Div I.
It could possibly help him keep his job aso since he'll be able to point to a winning record.
Murray State, Nov. 8.
Here's the recap of the schedule so far from the posts in this thread:
Oct. 26 Hillsdale (MI) exhibition
Nov. 2 Robert Morris (IL) exhibition
Nov. 8 Murray State
Nov. 10 North Park
Nov. 13 at Illinois (6:30 p.m.)
Nov. 21 at Evansville
Nov. 23 James Madison
Nov. 26 Central Florida
Nov. 29 Mercer
Nov. 30 ? ? ? ?
Dec. 4 at Ball State
Dec. 7 Saint Louis
Dec. 14 Loyola Marymount (2 p.m.)
Dec. 22 at Central Florida
Dec. 20-23 Rio Grande (OH) or Southeastern at Orlando
Jan. 2 UIC
Jan. 4 at Oakland
Jan. 10 Wright St
Jan. 18 Milwaukee
Jan. 23. at Youngstown St
Jan. 25 at Cleveland State
Jan. 29 Green Bay
Feb. 1 at UIC
Feb. 7 Detroit
Feb. 9 Oakland
Feb. 15 at Milwaukee
Feb. 22 Youngstown St
Mar. 1 Cleveland St
no dates yet--at Ohio U, Alcorn St, at East Tenn St
I wish one of the exhibition games was against St. Xavier of Chicago so Brad Karp would have had a chance to play in his hometown.
So I'm glad we won't go a season without a Double-Header... November 2... 1:30pm Kickoff at Brown Field against the Torero's and the game with Robert Morris College that evening. Can't beat fun at the old ball parks.
James Madison released its schedule today. Nov. 23 at the Arc.
Cool. Nice to see an Eastern team (well, Mid-Eastern) on our schedule.
From their website:
The defending Colonial Athletic Association champions will officially tip off the season on Friday, Nov. 8 at the John Paul Jones Arena against Virginia. It will be just the second meeting in the last 30 years between the programs, the first since 2003.
One week later, the Dukes embark to DeKalb, Illinois for the first of two tournament events. JMU will face host Northern Illinois (5-25) on Nov. 15 followed by additional games at NIU vs. Milwaukee (8-24) and San Jose State (9-20).
After JMU returns for the Detroit home contest on Nov. 19, the Dukes hit the road again for games Nov. 23 at defending Horizon League regular season champion (excuse me?) Valparaiso (26-8), Nov. 27 at Winthrop (14-17) and Nov. 30 at Richmond (19-15).
Technically a tournament team that won a game last year. They actually played Indiana a lot closer than they should have last year. Not a bad team, I remember watching them kill northeastern in the CAA Championship game, which if I recall correctly was one of the first bids given out.
Damn I miss March.
Wow....nice home schedule taking shape. Hope that jacks up the crowd sizes. Strong local talent should be a draw as well.
Based upon the projected schedule here, Keith Carter's first game of eligibility should be in Orlando since final exams end the afternoon of Dec. 20.
Not soon enough for anyone on this board! :/
Has there been any talk around the program about taking KC up on his word and applying for the redshirt for last year that would give him another (fourth) year of eligibility here? [hopeful emoticon goes here]
Youngstown State just posted their schedule:
Valpo Thursday, January 23rd at Youngstown
Youngstown State Thursday, Feb 20th at the ARC
The Full Penguin Schedule:
November
Fri 8 at Kennesaw St. Kennesaw State Tournament 7:30 PM
Sat 9 vs. Florida Int'l Kennesaw State Tournament 3:00 PM
Sun 10 vs. Eastern Kentucky Kennesaw State Tournament 1:00 PM
Thu 14 Warren Wilson Kennesaw State Tournament TBA
Sun 17 at Massachusetts TBA
Wed 20 Thiel TBA
Sat 23 Westminster (Pa.) TBA
Wed 27 at Kent State TBA
Sat 30 Austin Peay TBA
December
Wed 4 Robert Morris TBA
Sat 7 at UMKC TBA
Sat 14 at Pittsburgh TBA
Tue 17 Bethune-Cookman TBA
Sat 21 at St. John's (N.Y.) TBA Live stats
Sun 29 South Dakota TBA
January
Thu 2 at Milwaukee * TBA
Sat 4 at Green Bay * TBA
Tue 7 at UIC * TBA
Mon 13 Cleveland State * TBA
Sat 18 Detroit * TBA
Thu 23 Valparaiso * TBA
Sat 25 Wright State * TBA
Fri 31 at Oakland * TBA
February
Wed 5 at Wright State * TBA
Sun 9 at Detroit * TBA
Thu 13 Green Bay * TBA
Sat 15 UIC * TBA
Thu 20 at Valparaiso * TBA
Tue 25 at Cleveland State * TBA
March
Sat 1 Oakland * TBA
Rio Grande Just released their schedule... and we're NOT ON IT!
They are in Orlando at UCF the same weekend we are... but they are playing:
21 @ University of Central Florida
UCF Classic at Orlando, Fla.
22 vs. Southeastern University
UCF Classic at Orlando, Fla.
SO, I looked at the Southeastern University Fire's schedule which they just posted:
Dec. 21, 2013 vs. Rio Grande University Orlando, Fla.
Dec. 22, 2013 @ University of Central Florida (Exhibition) Orlando, Fla.
So I confirmed the UCF Schedule:
Jackson Hewitt UCF Holiday Classic
12/21/13 vs. Rio Grande Orlando, Fla. TBA
12/22/13 vs. Valparaiso Orlando, Fla. TBA
so... this is all screwed up.
Quote from: talksalot on August 28, 2013, 07:44:43 AMso... this is all screwed up.
genius! thanks--that made my day.
or perhaps they're imagineering the future in some kind of cage-style match...do they still call 'em 'cagers'? :/
It would not be so funny if I were not planning to get some plane tickets for a little R&R weekend... I went to the game the last time we played at UCF...
Quote from: talksalot on August 28, 2013, 08:05:53 AM
It would not be so funny if I were not planning to get some plane tickets for a little R&R weekend... I went to the game the last time we played at UCF...
Could it be that UCF is trying to find a 5th team for the tournament that plays both Valpo & UCF? Obviously someone got it wrong.
I was thinking they were taking a page out of the spring training for baseball... I'm thinking Split Squad games! Perhaps, even number players in game 1 and odd number players in game 2? or Combined squad games... (Valpo and Southeastern Fire) Vs. (Rio Grande Red Storm and UCF Knights). Make the score book messy... Drive the Chef nuts!! Especially when they change partners at halftime.
The St. Louis game at the ARC will be Dec. 7, and we can add an exhibition against Hillsdale on October 26.
I think having two non-D1 games before Murray State is a good idea, especially since we're a team with a bunch of rookies and guys that haven't played much with each other. Overall, I kind of wish we had this OOC last year instead of this year.
The game at Illinois will be November 13 at 6:30pm.
I just received my season ticket info in the mail today...including the full home schedule...
Oct. 26 - Hillsdale
Nov. 2 - Robert Morris
Nov. 8 - Murray State - Championship Banner Raising
Nov. 10 - North Park
Nov. 23 - James Madison Univ. - Hilltop Food Drive
Nov. 26 - UCF
Nov. 29 - Mercer
Nov. 30 - TBD
Dec. 7 - St. Louis - Chicago Bucket Boys Halftime Entertainment
Dec. 14 - Loyola Marymount - First 1,000 fans get free t-shirts
Jan. 2 - UIC - Sponsor appreciation night
Jan. 10 - Wright State - Sky Squad Halftime Entertainment
Jan. 18 - Milwaukee - Retire "24" Jersey
Jan. 29 - Green Bay - The Crusaders Birthday
Feb. 7 - Detroit - Free Valpo Sunglasses
Feb. 9 - Oakland - Zooperstars Halftime Entertainment
Feb. 22 - Youngstown State - Hall of Fame Induction
Mar. 1 - Cleveland State - Senior Night
Mar. 4-11 - HL Tourny
Good idea to raise the banners vs Murray St and not a non-D1 opponent.
This year's home schedule is terrific with one exception. I don't like that Senior Night (Mar. 1) is during Spring Break.
Good home schedule this year. I really like that both the Murray State and Saint Louis games are when school is in session - now the students and fans need to pack the ARC. Only dissapointment that I see is that the Detroit game is when school is not in session, but I think Detroit will be down a lot this season.
Do we all have to go stand in the entry hallway to watch the banner raising or are they actually putting it in the gym this year? ;D
But on another note, that's disappointing to see that Senior Night is during spring break
Quote from: Valpo2010 on August 28, 2013, 07:01:58 PMNov. 30 - TBD
After taking a second look at this 5 team field and the games within it that have already been announced it appears almost equally likely that we will either play Alcorn St. here and Evansville there or Evansville here and take a trip to Alcorn St. I'll take a wild guess that we will play at Evansville on maybe the 17th of November (give or take a month).
Didn't Hillsdale beat a D-1 opponent in an exhibition a few years back?
The Chicago Bucket Boys, the halftime entertainment at the St Louis game on December 7th.
Chicago Bucket Boys (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-SN2l6JZO0#)
Reminds me of when a famous violinist played in the subway of NYC in the last few years as an experiment to see how many people would just walk on by. Only a few people even seem to be realizing what these guys are doing...
At Illinois Nov. 13 at 6:30 p.m.
Quote from: talksalot on August 28, 2013, 07:26:36 AMValpo Thursday, January 23rd at Youngstown
Youngstown State Thursday, Feb 20th at the ARC
I don't know if anyone noticed yet but the Valpo season ticket holders were told the YSU at Valpo game was Feb.22 (not Thur the 20th but Sat the 22nd) which would make the Youngstown website wrong on the date.
Quote from: justducky on August 28, 2013, 11:59:07 PM
Quote from: Valpo2010 on August 28, 2013, 07:01:58 PMNov. 30 - TBD
After taking a second look at this 5 team field and the games within it that have already been announced it appears almost equally likely that we will either play Alcorn St. here and Evansville there or Evansville here and take a trip to Alcorn St. I'll take a wild guess that we will play at Evansville on maybe the 17th of November (give or take a month).
Just forget everything I said above and help me figure this thing out. I had assumed that each team would get 2 home and 2 road games in this 5 team set-up. But no! Mercer will only play Alcorn St at home and I am still trying to figure out what Alcorn St might get except a lot of traveling.
Just visited the BobcatAttack.com (2013-14 OOC schedule recent posts) and see that Evansville will be there 11-30 so they can not be here also. So our TBD 11-30 date could only be Alcorn St or some last minute maybe non-D1 opponent. If we only get one home game out of this while it looks like Ohio will get at least 3 then why did we even want to participate? I am so confused!
OK, so here is Keith Cater, who is saying that he will miss the first 9 or 10 games rather then the entire first semester. Is there a difference? Could he make it back for the St. Louis game?
Inside Valpo Athletics: Keith Carter 8|29|13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asrI3Eu3710#)
Quote from: justducky on August 29, 2013, 01:04:20 PM
Quote from: justducky on August 28, 2013, 11:59:07 PM
Quote from: Valpo2010 on August 28, 2013, 07:01:58 PMNov. 30 - TBD
After taking a second look at this 5 team field and the games within it that have already been announced it appears almost equally likely that we will either play Alcorn St. here and Evansville there or Evansville here and take a trip to Alcorn St. I'll take a wild guess that we will play at Evansville on maybe the 17th of November (give or take a month).
Just forget everything I said above and help me figure this thing out. I had assumed that each team would get 2 home and 2 road games in this 5 team set-up. But no! Mercer will only play Alcorn St at home and I am still trying to figure out what Alcorn St might get except a lot of traveling.
Just visited the BobcatAttack.com (2013-14 OOC schedule recent posts) and see that Evansville will be there 11-30 so they can not be here also. So our TBD 11-30 date could only be Alcorn St or some last minute maybe non-D1 opponent. If we only get one home game out of this while it looks like Ohio will get at least 3 then why did we even want to participate? I am so confused!
Blogging the bracket.com shows Valpo playing at Evansville, but no date. Given that Ohio set up the tournament, my guess is they'll get 4 home games. Evansville will get 3 home (and at Ohio), Valpo gets 2 home (and at Ohio/Evansville), Mercer gets 1 home game and Alcorn State gets none. As justducky points out, it doesn't seem very fair.
Especially considering that Evansville always ends up with the most biased refs at their facility, but that is MVC-specific anyways
Quote from: vu72 on August 29, 2013, 03:30:27 PMOK, so here is Keith Carter, who is saying that he will miss the first 9 or 10 games rather then the entire first semester. Is there a difference? Could he make it back for the St. Louis game?
If you count the number of games on the recap schedule that bbtds has posted there are 9 to 10 games (depending on whether we play a game on Nov. 30 or not) before the UCF tournament in Orlando.
Keith will not get to play against St Louis on 12/7/13. He will play his first game in Orlando against UCF, Rio Grande or Southeastern.
The game at Illinois will be November 13 at 6:30pm.
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Darn... a Wednesday night! too late for this working stiff to drive back from Champaign...or Urbana.
Quote from: valpotx on August 29, 2013, 09:56:30 AM
Reminds me of when a famous violinist played in the subway of NYC in the last few years as an experiment to see how many people would just walk on by. Only a few people even seem to be realizing what these guys are doing...
Joshua Bell! Great to have the bucket boys in the house.
I remember them, or their cousins?, or their precursors?, under the overpasses or some such around Comiskey when I was a kid.
Quote from: talksalot on August 29, 2013, 05:41:34 PM
The game at Illinois will be November 13 at 6:30pm.
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Darn... a Wednesday night! too late for this working stiff to drive back from Champaign...or Urbana.
Stay the night, early morning commute?
Quote from: EddieCabot on August 29, 2013, 04:33:26 PMBlogging the bracket.com shows Valpo playing at Evansville, but no date. Given that Ohio set up the tournament, my guess is they'll get 4 home games. Evansville will get 3 home (and at Ohio), Valpo gets 2 home (and at Ohio/Evansville), Mercer gets 1 home game and Alcorn State gets none. As justducky points out, it doesn't seem very fair.
While we are both still doing some guesswork your conclusion seems both rational and probable, but perhaps Ohio will take the road to Alcorn St. to give up something in exchange for the 3 "quality" home games it will get from us, Mercer and Evansville. Buuuut, I doubt it too.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem playing at Evansville and Ohio as long as we get a return engagement or its substantial equivalent. So if this turns out to be a straight up deal with no return games then it would seem that we have valued home games with Mercer and Alcorn St (the Chicago St of the south) to be just as valuable as future games with Ohio and Evansville. If that is the way it plays out let me suggest that we try to grab the slick used car salesman from Ohio that talked us and Mercer into this and offer him the job of running the Horizon League. ;)
Mercer returns eight of its top nine scorers from a 24-win team which lost to Florida Gulf Coast in the A-Sun finals and beat Tennessee in the first round of the NIT. That is a pretty high quality home game right there.
Seems like a rather strong OOC schedule is starting to take shape. Will be a good test for a young team with a lot of new pieces coming into place this season. Looking forward to tipoff of our first exhibition game.
Quote from: agibson on August 29, 2013, 08:16:30 PMQuote from: valpotx on August 29, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
Reminds me of when a famous violinist played in the subway of NYC in the last few years as an experiment to see how many people would just walk on by. Only a few people even seem to be realizing what these guys are doing...
Joshua Bell!
Yes, DC, but Tx is on to something...even that wasn't original (had been done in Chicago in 1930 as well).
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bell.asp (http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bell.asp)
Now back to our awesome schedule.
At Evansville on November 21. http://gopurpleaces.com/news/2013/8/30/MBB_0830130605.aspx (http://gopurpleaces.com/news/2013/8/30/MBB_0830130605.aspx)
Wish this were a weekend game so more Valpo fans could make the trip ... The Ford Center is a great venue for college basketball.
(I thought I should move this further along in the thread)
Here's the recap of the schedule so far from the posts in this thread:
Oct. 26 Hillsdale (MI) exhibition
Nov. 2 Robert Morris (IL) exhibition
Nov. 8 Murray State
Nov. 10 North Park
Nov. 13 at Illinois (6:30 p.m.)
Nov. 17 at Ohio U
Nov. 21 at Evansville
Nov. 23 James Madison
Nov. 26 Central Florida
Nov. 29 Mercer
Nov. 30 ? ? ? ?
Dec. 4 at Ball State
Dec. 7 Saint Louis
Dec. 14 Loyola Marymount (2 p.m.)
Dec. 22 at Central Florida
Dec. 20-23 Rio Grande (OH) or Southeastern at Orlando
Dec. 29 at East Tennessee State
Jan. 2 UIC
Jan. 4 at Oakland
Jan. 10 Wright St
Jan. 15 at Detroit
Jan. 18 Milwaukee
Jan. 23. at Youngstown St
Jan. 25 at Cleveland State
Jan. 29 Green Bay
Feb. 1 at UIC
Feb. 7 Detroit
Feb. 9 Oakland
Feb. 15 at Milwaukee
Feb. 20 at Green Bay
Feb. 22 Youngstown St
Mar. 1 Cleveland St
no date yet--Alcorn St
Quote from: valpopal on August 28, 2013, 03:59:23 PM
and we can add an exhibition against Hillsdale on October 26.
Are you sure that this Hillside exhibition game is really happening? There is only one Hillside College in the United States and they don't list us on the men's basketball schedule on their athletics website. If you were a Div. II college and had scheduled a Div. I team wouldn't you want to publicize it?
http://www.hillsdalechargers.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/schedule (http://www.hillsdalechargers.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/schedule)
Quote from: bbtds on September 01, 2013, 01:26:59 AM
Quote from: valpopal on August 28, 2013, 03:59:23 PM
and we can add an exhibition against Hillsdale on October 26.
Are you sure that this Hillside exhibition game is really happening? There is only one Hillside College in the United States and they don't list us on the men's basketball schedule on their athletics website. If you were a Div. II college and had scheduled a Div. I team wouldn't you want to publicize it?
http://www.hillsdalechargers.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/schedule (http://www.hillsdalechargers.com/sports/mbkb/2013-14/schedule)
Since my post, the Hillsdale game has been confirmed by VU. By the way, two years ago Valpo nearly lost to Hillsdale, winning 73-71 on a 3 pt. play by Kevin with only 5 seconds left in the game. It was Bryce's first game as head coach.
http://valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2011-12/11132/valpo-downs-hillsdale-73-71-in-exhibition-action/ (http://valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2011-12/11132/valpo-downs-hillsdale-73-71-in-exhibition-action/)
Here is video of the last 30 seconds in that game, though the final score listed is incorrect:
VALPO vs HC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=061tjE7QKRM#ws)
This year's schedule is what we were hoping to have. Last year, our out of conference schedule was poor, 4th in the HL (5th if we added Oakland), and our national rank was 219. This year, our non-conference schedule is 2nd in the conference (only Oakland has a stronger one). It is too early to see what our national rank will be, but it should be a lot better.
And we get a high RPI for the OOC without scheduling games where we are doomed to be embarrassed by a top 10 team!
Quote from: valpopal on September 02, 2013, 10:24:19 AM
This year's schedule is what we were hoping to have. Last year, our out of conference schedule was poor, 4th in the HL (5th if we added Oakland), and our national rank was 219. This year, our non-conference schedule is 2nd in the conference (only Oakland has a stronger one). It is too early to see what our national rank will be, but it should be a lot better.
Every program in the HL should be scheduling like Valpo or Oakland - but they're not. Some of the OOC schedules and partial OOC schedules I've seen so far are pathetic. Every year since we joined the HL, old line regulars on these other HL boards engage in discussions about what it's going to take to become a multi-bid conference, while the programs they support keep spitting out crap OOC schedules. In general three factors dictate whether a non-BCS conference ultimately becomes a multi-bid league: quality of recruiting, quality of coaching, and quality of OOC scheduling. In large part HL teams fall short in all three areas every year.
Following is the OOC scheduling rule the A-10 requires all of its members to follow:
Atlantic 10 non-conference scheduling rules
8.04 The following requirements must be met by all Atlantic 10 men's basketball teams. The penalty for non-compliance is outlined in the Conference Constitution and Bylaws.
A. Each men's team must maintain a 1.8 average for all non-conference games schedules. The RPI at the conclusion of the NCAA Tournament of the preceding season will be used for the pre-season analysis and the current season's pre-NCAA tournament RPI will be used for post-season analysis. The point values are as follows:
Ranked 1-50 in the RPI: 4 points
Ranked 51-100 in the RPI: 3 points
Ranked 101-125 in the RPI: 2.5 points
Ranked 126-150 in the RPI: 2 points
Ranked 151-175 in the RPI: 1 point
Ranked 176-200 in the RPI: 0.5 point
Ranked 201+ in the RPI: 0 points
B. Any Atlantic 10 institution playing a non-conference game against an opponent from the ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, SEC PAC-10 or Big East will receive no less than 2 points, regardless of the team's RPI.
C. Any Atlantic 10 institution playing a non-conference game against an opponent from Conference USA or Mountain West will receive no less than 1 point, regardless of the team's RPI. If HL teams had to follow this formula, I shudder to think how many of these garbage OOC schedules I've seen so far would have to be scrapped. We were as guilty as anyone last year. We assembled an excellent team, but put together a crap OOC schedule. Wright State has done the same this year - good team, crap schedule. One thing Butler consistently did was not only recruit well, but schedule well.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on August 31, 2013, 09:24:18 AM
even that wasn't original (had been done in Chicago in 1930 as well).
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bell.asp (http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bell.asp)
Interesting! The same Strad! If he had played the same Strad in the subway, that would have really been spooky. Missed it by a few years.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on August 31, 2013, 09:24:18 AM
Quote from: agibson on August 29, 2013, 08:16:30 PMQuote from: valpotx on August 29, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
Reminds me of when a famous violinist played in the subway of NYC in the last few years as an experiment to see how many people would just walk on by. Only a few people even seem to be realizing what these guys are doing...
Joshua Bell!
Yes, DC, but Tx is on to something...even that wasn't original (had been done in Chicago in 1930 as well).
http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bell.asp (http://www.snopes.com/music/artists/bell.asp)
Now back to our awesome schedule.
When I first saw this I immediately thought of a time when it was done in DC. I remember the Gene Weingarten article. Wished I had passed by on that day. I would not have recognized Bell, but the sound from the Stradivarius and Bell's performance would have indicated someone other than a street performer.
Quote from: covufan on September 03, 2013, 11:27:26 AMbut the sound from the Stradivarius and Bell's performance would have indicated someone other than a street performer.
I wonder, actually. There are some really good street performers. (Indeed, probably some pretty legit musicians who sort of enjoy the public scene, and are happy to pick up a few bucks on the side while getting in some sort of practice.)
In Paris, in the Metro, etc. they have to audition.
The ETSU game is December 29th on ETSU's campus at the MSHA Athletic Center.
I wish for the Evansville game that we could use HL referees, but sadly, we're probably going to be stuck with MVC refs just waiting to bite on the "ejecting a Drew" from the game, or taking the game away from the players on the floor by making it more about them and their phantom basketball game.
UDM just posted their schedule....
Valpo @ Calihan WEDNESDAY, January 15th
UDM @ the ARC on FRIDAY, February 7th.
And Green Bay just released theirs....
Wed Jan 29th at the ARC
Thursday February 20th at the Resch Center
OOC schedule includes these home games at the Resch Center,
Wisconsin
Minnesota-Duluth
Virginia
Tennessee Tech
Fairfield
St. Francis (Ill)
OOC Road Games:
Great Alaska Shootout: (Pepperdine in game 1)
Eastern Michigan
South Dakota
Texas Southern
Arkansas-Pine Bluff
Looking at the Titans' OOC...
Home games:
UM-Dearborn
Florida Atlantic, Toledo, Stony Brook, Titans hosting the 2K sportsClassic, Wounded Warrior Project Trny
Rhode Island
Indiana Tech
Bethune Cookman
OOC Road games
South Alabama
UConn
James Madison
South Florida
Toledo (H&H)
NC State
Akron
Bowling Green
So, I added the last few games I listed, and the day of the week:
Sat Oct. 26 Hillsdale (MI) exhibition
Sat Nov. 2 Robert Morris (IL) exhibition
Fri Nov. 8 Murray State
Sun Nov. 10 North Park
Wed Nov. 13 at Illinois (6:30 p.m.)
Thu Nov. 21 at Evansville
Sat Nov. 23 James Madison
Tue Nov. 26 Central Florida
Fri Nov. 29 Mercer
Sat Nov. 30 ? ? ? ?
Wed Dec. 4 at Ball State
Sat Dec. 7 Saint Louis
Sat Dec. 14 Loyola Marymount (2 p.m.)
Sat Dec. 21 Rio Grande (OH) or Southeastern at Orlando
Sun Dec. 22 at Central Florida
Sun Dec. 29 at East Tennessee State
Thu Jan. 2 UIC
Sat Jan. 4 at Oakland
Fri Jan. 10 Wright St
Wed Jan. 15 At Detroit
Sat Jan. 18 Milwaukee
Thu Jan. 23 at Youngstown St
Sat Jan. 25 at Cleveland State
Wed Jan. 29 Green Bay
Sat Feb. 1 at UIC
Fri Feb. 7 Detroit
Sun Feb. 9 Oakland
Sat Feb. 15 at Milwaukee
Thu Feb. 20 at Green Bay
Sat Feb. 22 Youngstown St
Sat Mar. 1 Cleveland St
Still looking for that elusive OHIO and ALCORN STATE game, and the return trip to Wright State is the only remaining HL game we can't pin point..... and we have no idea who we are playing on Saturday December 21st in Orlando. If the HL "ESPNU game of the week" is still on Friday nights we have two, both in the ARC, Wright and UDM.
The Bobcats released their schedule: Sunday, Nov 17... at Ohio, time is TBA... on almost their entire schedule.
According to their press release, The Ohio Classic Tournament, gives the bobcats 4 home games: Valpo, Mercer and Evansville and Heidelberg College Student Princes (11-15 last year at D-III, and has not played a D-1 opponent in at least 3 years)
Green Bay getting Virginia and Wisconsin at home is very impressive. Detroit's home schedule looks abysmal.
Quote from: vu84v2 on September 05, 2013, 12:51:15 PMGreen Bay getting Virginia and Wisconsin at home is very impressive.
Especially after they beat them in 2009! But, perhaps a 3-1 isn't crazy...
Nice to add Virginia, for sure.
The Resch Center isn't a small facility, small in the sense of <6,000 seats, so some of the bigger schools will go play there. Also, doesn't the UW system require Madison to play Green Bay and Milwaukee as a part of their state funding agreements? I know Iowa has the requirement that the D-1 state universities (Iowa, State, and UNI) have to play each other, but didn't know if Wisconsin had the same requirement.
Quote from: agibson on September 05, 2013, 01:04:54 PMNice to add Virginia, for sure.
I'm sure the Virginia game is due to former GB player (and son of their former coach), Tony Bennett, being Virginia's coach.
I've updated the days of the week also:
Here's the recap of the schedule so far from the posts in this thread:
Sat. Oct. 26 Hillsdale (MI) exhibition
Sat. Nov. 2 Robert Morris (IL) exhibition
Fri. Nov. 8 Murray State
Sun. Nov. 10 North Park
Wed. Nov. 13 at Illinois (6:30 p.m.)
Sun. Nov. 17 at Ohio U
Thur. Nov. 21 at Evansville
Sat. Nov. 23 James Madison
Tue. Nov. 26 Central Florida
Fri. Nov. 29 Mercer
Sat. Nov. 30 Cincinnati Christian
Wed. Dec. 4 at Ball State
Sat. Dec. 7 Saint Louis
Sat. Dec. 14 Loyola Marymount (2 p.m.)
Sun. Dec. 22 at Central Florida
Sat. Dec. 21 Rio Grande (OH) or Southeastern at Orlando
Sun. Dec. 29 at East Tennessee State
Thur. Jan. 2 UIC
Sat. Jan. 4 at Oakland
Fri. Jan. 10 Wright St
Wed. Jan. 15 at Detroit
Sat. Jan. 18 Milwaukee
Thur. Jan. 23. at Youngstown St
Sat. Jan. 25 at Cleveland State
Wed. Jan. 29 Green Bay
Sat. Feb. 1 at UIC
Fri. Feb. 7 Detroit
Sun. Feb. 9 Oakland
Sat. Feb. 15 at Milwaukee
Thur. Feb. 20 at Green Bay
Sat. Feb. 22 Youngstown St
Sat. Mar. 1 Cleveland St
no date yet--Alcorn St
Quote from: bbtds on September 05, 2013, 04:57:33 PMSat. Nov. 30 ? ? ? ?
The fact that Ohio will be playing Heidelberg as its 4'th Ohio Classic game and that both Evansville and Valpo have home games with TBD opponents suggests to me that Alcorn St may have balked on everything but their appearance at Mercer. Every day that goes by without a full schedule reduces my expectations even more. I hope that I am wrong but this just doesn't feel right. If we somehow get handed another D-II or III opponent my next post might get pretty interesting. ;)
Well... I have it on fairly good authority the ? ? ? ? information on Saturday Nov. 30 is will be The Eagles. AND, this Eagles team... we've never played before.... Cincinnati Christian University. I was really hoping to play the Heidelberg student princes.
Looking at the Valpo record book, Valpo played the Cincinnati YMCA in 1923-24... and Valpo won 24-21... but that YMCA team was not a predecessor to CCU.
Cincinnati Christian University began on September 23, 1924, two institutions—McGarvey Bible College in Louisville, Kentucky, and Cincinnati Bible Institute in Cincinnati, Ohio—merged to form the Cincinnati Bible Seminary
But, will they be better competition than, say, the Valparaiso YMCA All-Stars?
Quote from: talksalot on September 05, 2013, 09:26:37 PMWell... I have it on fairly good authority the ? ? ? ? information on Saturday Nov. 30 is will be The Eagles. AND, this Eagles team... we've never played before.... Cincinnati Christian University. I was really hoping to play the Heidelberg student princes.
Well it didn't look like a good deal with Alcorn St. in the mix but things have gone even further downhill if you try to substitute in this bunch. If this is true then somebody has overpromised and under delivered. So-----it would appear to me that Ohio would need to find a way to make things right or be taken to the gravel.
I should be able to find a good HS game that night. Anybody care to join me? Maybe talksalot can jump ship too and we can go as a group, nobody would be at the ARC anyway!
Quote from: agibson on September 05, 2013, 09:52:27 PMBut, will they be better competition than, say, the Valparaiso YMCA All-Stars?
It would be kinda funny to have the Valpo YMCA kids as the halftime entertainment...Just looking through the ccuniversity.edu athletics site... they are excited about the 6'6 big man they signed to join their team...and their 2nd year head coach was part of their 1986, 1987 and 1988 Three-Peat as National Champions! Last year, Eastern Kentucky beat them by 33, ... here was LAST years' roster... #quakinginmyboots
2 Nick Wake SO G 5-10 170 Goshen, Ohio
3 Ben Leatherman FR F 6-4 200 Fort Wayne, Indiana
11 Perry Smith Jr. SR F 6-1 190 Indianapolis, Indiana
13 Kenny Gaynor FR F 6-7 220 West Chester, Ohio
14 Joe Shellman JR G/F 6-3 175 Cincinnati, Ohio
20 Jeff McClintic JR G 6-0 175 Brownsburg, Indiana
21 Will Masse FR G/F 6-5 185 Lyon, France
22 Austin Irrer FR F/C 6-8 225 Homeschooled
23 Mike Hill JR G 6-2 165 Cincinnati, Ohio
24 Bryan Koors FR G 6-0 160 Hebron, Kentucky
30 DJ McCommons FR G 6-1 160 Dayton, Ohio
32 Elliot Young FR G 6-4 200 Williamsburg, Ohio
34 Nik Miller FR C 6-6 225 Plainfield, Indiana
42 Matt Brown FR G 6-1 175 Center Grove, Indiana
The important thing to remember is that it's always better to play a non-D1 than a Chicago St.-level tomato can, because those don't count against your RPI the way CSU does.
Alcorn was 311 last year. Who needs 'em?
The Horizon League season television schedule has been released. Valpo has six broadcast games, five at the ARC:
http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horizon-league-espn-announce-2013-14-mens-basketball-tv-schedule.html (http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horizon-league-espn-announce-2013-14-mens-basketball-tv-schedule.html)
Quote from: valpopal on September 06, 2013, 10:03:22 AM
The Horizon League season television schedule has been released. Valpo has six broadcast games, five at the ARC:
http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horizon-league-espn-announce-2013-14-mens-basketball-tv-schedule.html (http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horizon-league-espn-announce-2013-14-mens-basketball-tv-schedule.html)
It's starting to get embarrassing that we've been able to put together at least 30 games for Valpo, there's a listing of what games will be on TV, and they haven't officially announced their schedule...
Quote from: talksalot on September 06, 2013, 07:19:19 AM
Quote from: agibson on September 05, 2013, 09:52:27 PMBut, will they be better competition than, say, the Valparaiso YMCA All-Stars?
It would be kinda funny to have the Valpo YMCA kids as the halftime entertainment...Just looking through the ccuniversity.edu athletics site... they are excited about the 6'6 big man they signed to join their team...and their 2nd year head coach was part of their 1986, 1987 and 1988 Three-Peat as National Champions! Last year, Eastern Kentucky beat them by 33, ... here was LAST years' roster... #quakinginmyboots
2 Nick Wake SO G 5-10 170 Goshen, Ohio
3 Ben Leatherman FR F 6-4 200 Fort Wayne, Indiana
11 Perry Smith Jr. SR F 6-1 190 Indianapolis, Indiana
13 Kenny Gaynor FR F 6-7 220 West Chester, Ohio
14 Joe Shellman JR G/F 6-3 175 Cincinnati, Ohio
20 Jeff McClintic JR G 6-0 175 Brownsburg, Indiana
21 Will Masse FR G/F 6-5 185 Lyon, France
22 Austin Irrer FR F/C 6-8 225 Homeschooled
23 Mike Hill JR G 6-2 165 Cincinnati, Ohio
24 Bryan Koors FR G 6-0 160 Hebron, Kentucky
30 DJ McCommons FR G 6-1 160 Dayton, Ohio
32 Elliot Young FR G 6-4 200 Williamsburg, Ohio
34 Nik Miller FR C 6-6 225 Plainfield, Indiana
42 Matt Brown FR G 6-1 175 Center Grove, Indiana
So this is where the lower tier high schoolers from Indy go. The Eagles got a Plainfield Quaker, Center Grove Trojan, Brownsburg Bulldog and a Lawrence Central Bear,
From VU Athletics Facebook:
Look for a complete schedule breakdown with Valpo basketball head coach Bryce Drew on next week's Inside Valpo Athletics.
September 6 at 10:41am
Quote from: valpopal on September 06, 2013, 10:03:22 AM
The Horizon League season television schedule has been released. Valpo has six broadcast games, five at the ARC:
http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horizon-league-espn-announce-2013-14-mens-basketball-tv-schedule.html (http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horizon-league-espn-announce-2013-14-mens-basketball-tv-schedule.html)
At least two games on "The U". Plus the semifinals. I think EPNU may actually have been added to my cable package. I should double check. I hope so. It was always frustrating, at least, to be locked out of those.
Nice to see Bryce featured in the article's photo.
Quote from: agibson on September 09, 2013, 04:30:22 PM
Quote from: valpopal on September 06, 2013, 10:03:22 AM
The Horizon League season television schedule has been released. Valpo has six broadcast games, five at the ARC:
http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horizon-league-espn-announce-2013-14-mens-basketball-tv-schedule.html (http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/horizon-league-espn-announce-2013-14-mens-basketball-tv-schedule.html)
At least two games on "The U". Plus the semifinals. I think EPNU may actually have been added to my cable package. I should double check. I hope so. It was always frustrating, at least, to be locked out of those.
Nice to see Bryce featured in the article's photo.
There are 21 televised conference games for which opponents have been determined. Not surprisingly, 2 teams (Valpo and WSU) are hosting half the games (10 of the 21). There's nothing less impressive than watching a TV game with the stands 30% full, and where you can hear what the coaches are saying on the sidelines and the squeak of tennis shoes on hardwood.
5 Valpo (best roof-raising TV atmosphere in the HL by far - nowhere else even close)
5 WSU (best overall attendance - obvious pick to win the league - nice venue)
4 Oakland (new kid on the block - very small venue, but easier to pack out for a TV game - good atmosphere)
3 Green Bay
2 Detroit
2 UIC
0 CSU
0 YSU
0 Milw
Hoping someone could clarify some of the network information in that release.
ESPN3 - this is internet only, correct? Does ESPN send their own broadcast teams for these games?
HLN Game of the Week/ESPN3 - Assume these are also internet, but are there also TV stations that pick up these games?
ESPNU/ESPN3 - What does this mean exactly? Is this an either/or situation, or will the games be on both outlets?
Lastly, I noticed that a couple of Valpo's home games were listed for ESPN3. Is there a real benefit (fan interest and attendance, national exposure, etc.) to having the webcast on ESPN3 versus being on the Horizon League Network? Just curious.
I'll take a shot at some of these. ESPN3 games are full ESPN crews...production and announcers. It didn't used to be this way, but was changed a few years ago. HLN games of the week are carried by some local TV stations, primarily in Horizon League cities. ESPNU/ESPN3 usually would mean both outlets. Although I know some people couldn't get ESPNU games on the internet (others could). I would think if anyone is deciding to go to a game or watch it on the internet - the HLN broadcast would be more likely to keep them at home for the home town call ;)!
Quote from: chef on September 09, 2013, 10:29:42 PM
I'll take a shot at some of these. ESPN3 games are full ESPN crews...production and announcers. It didn't used to be this way, but was changed a few years ago. HLN games of the week are carried by some local TV stations, primarily in Horizon League cities. ESPNU/ESPN3 usually would mean both outlets. Although I know some people couldn't get ESPNU games on the internet (others could). I would think if anyone is deciding to go to a game or watch it on the internet - the HLN broadcast would be more likely to keep them at home for the home town call ;)!
Even if you aren't subscribed to any ESPN channels you can watch the broadcasts in their "Replay" section. It might not be live but you can see it later at no cost.
Currently the Czech-Croatia game with Lubos Barton is available.
Lubos enters the game at the 18 minute mark. Goes out at the 38 min. mark. Barton re-enters the game at the 1:09 mark. He has a great defensive play at the 1:11 mark. Goes out at 1:31 mark. Although the look on Lubos face about a minute later sitting on the bench is priceless. Barton re-enters the game at 1:43 mark. It was Veseley's awful FT shooting that sunk CZE. It was hack-a czech night.
EDIT: I never knew that in their native language that Croatia is Hrvatska.
bbtds, I expect so much from you, so why don't you always follow through?
i would have expected a title to your post like "Czechs Bounced At Eurobasket"
or "Bah! De Czechs Hurt!"
or "Czechs' Mix Goes Bad"
or "Czechs' Imbalances Fail To Separate World Powers"
you know, stuff like that. although 04 is just going to move this to the "Where Are They Now" thread.
understandably.
The official schedule announcement is out:
Inside Valpo Athletics: Bryce Drew 9|10|13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j17SbfDNdI#)
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2013-14/12903/crusaders-announce-2013-2014-mens-basketball-schedule/ (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2013-14/12903/crusaders-announce-2013-2014-mens-basketball-schedule/)
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on September 10, 2013, 06:54:00 AM
bbtds, I expect so much from you, so why don't you always follow through?
i would have expected a title to your post like "Czechs Bounced At Eurobasket"
or "Bah! De Czechs Hurt!"
or "Czechs' Mix Goes Bad"
or "Czechs' Imbalances Fail To Separate World Powers"
you know, stuff like that. although 04 is just going to move this to the "Where Are They Now" thread.
understandably.
So, if I had written "Veseley's missed FT's Czech team's hopes and send Croatia into Zagreb for Celje Eurobasket championship" you would have been more happy?
By the way Zagreb is only 1:45 from Celje.
Quote from: chef on September 09, 2013, 10:29:42 PMESPNU/ESPN3 usually would mean both outlets.
Hasn't this sometimes meant "we'll decide later whether it's on ESPNU, or _only_ on ESPN3"? I think all of the ESPN (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU) games are _also_ on ESPN3. But, they require a subscription. So, generally, if a game's live on ESPNU you can watch it live on ESPN3, but only if your network provider pays for the ESPNU access (e.g. if you have cable internet, these seems to be an issue of whether your TV subscription covers ESPNU).
Quote from: bbtdsEven if you aren't subscribed to any ESPN channels you can watch the broadcasts in their "Replay" section.
Ah, this could be good to know. If I'd known it I'd forgotten.
Radio-only vs. TV later... Hm...
Unfortunately, having checked, it's still no-ESPNU on TV for me at home.
Quote from: valpopal on September 10, 2013, 10:44:38 AMhttp://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2013-14/12903/crusaders-announce-2013-2014-mens-basketball-schedule/
Four home games during Thanksgiving? Not good for student attendance. Potentially good for me and my family, if we're in town...
Only one during Christmas break, it looks like.
And only one (plus the tournament, of course) during spring break.
It seems like there's a _lot_ of matinees and other game times that look appealing for me, with young kids. Should be fun!
Here's a link to an ICS file for the schedule. This will work for Google Calendars, iCal for Apple devices, and Microsoft Outlook calendars. If it doesn't work let me know, but I've tested it on Google and Microsoft.
https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tcsv0ao2lh890uf6j2u3oqako4%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics (https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tcsv0ao2lh890uf6j2u3oqako4%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics)
Quote from: Kyle321n on September 10, 2013, 04:20:55 PM
Here's a link to an ICS file for the schedule. This will work for Google Calendars, iCal for Apple devices, and Microsoft Outlook calendars. If it doesn't work let me know, but I've tested it on Google and Microsoft.
https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tcsv0ao2lh890uf6j2u3oqako4%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics (https://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tcsv0ao2lh890uf6j2u3oqako4%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics)
Thanks, this was helpful!
I noticed were not playing Rio Big Bread after all that talk of Bevo and his scoring records.
I think we need to look at this years schedule in reguard to its effects on future year scheduling.
Since neither the release or Bryce gave any details of additional contractual return games, would it be safe to assume that only Ball St, James Madison and ETSU (along with New Mexico and Eastern Kentucky) are our only locked in 2014-15 OOC opponents? If someone could confirm this I will have more to say on this in a later post.
Yes the OOC strength of schedule will be very impressive since North Park, Southeastern, and Cincinnati Christian will disappear from the RPI record as if they never happened but unfortunately the attendance for N.P.and C.C. will also be as if they never happened. Neither am not convinced that their level of play will help develop our bench. So in 12-13 we needed a strong OOC schedule and settled for a terrible home lineup just to try to find it. This year our strength of schedule may be more important to Wright St. and Green Bay than to us because when or if we come around most of us would think that it is apt to be late in the season and after some early season struggles.
What do you folks think? Has this years schedule laid any groundwork for future scheduling success? I hope that in the future we do not look back at 2013-14 and view it as a model to try and repeat.
Quote from: justducky on September 10, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
I think we need to look at this years schedule in reguard to its effects on future year scheduling.
Since neither the release or Bryce gave any details of additional contractual return games, would it be safe to assume that only Ball St, James Madison and ETSU (along with New Mexico and Eastern Kentucky) are our only locked in 2014-15 OOC opponents? If someone could confirm this I will have more to say on this in a later post.
Yes the OOC strength of schedule will be very impressive since North Park, Southeastern, and Cincinnati Christian will disappear from the RPI record as if they never happened but unfortunately the attendance for N.P.and C.C. will also be as if they never happened. Neither am not convinced that their level of play will help develop our bench. So in 12-13 we needed a strong OOC schedule and settled for a terrible home lineup just to try to find it. This year our strength of schedule may be more important to Wright St. and Green Bay than to us because when or if we come around most of us would think that it is apt to be late in the season and after some early season struggles.
What do you folks think? Has this years schedule laid any groundwork for future scheduling success? I hope that in the future we do not look back at 2013-14 and view it as a model to try and repeat.
Not necessarily. Two D1 non conference games (Saint Joseph's 3198 Robert Morris 2546) drew better than 5 D1 opponents last year (Northern Illinois 2445 Chicago State 2477 Bethune-Cookman 2088 IPFW 2179 IUPUI 1644). While the November 30th non conference game against Cincinnati Christian is questionable, I have no problems playing 3 of the first 4 games against non D1 opponents when the entire starting lineup from last year is graduated. I also think playing non D1 opponents is MUCH better than playing Chicago State and IUPUI... and the attendance figures against Chicago State/IUPUI/IPFW and the like are horrible anyways. So it's better to not take the RPI/SOS hit and schedule a better mid major like Mercer or James Madison instead.
As far as attendance goes, I'll be shocked if this isn't the best attended season since joining the Horizon. This is due to a variety of factors, but the main ones are... 1. The best attended seasons in any sport ever come AFTER a championship year, not during. This is regardless of a teams record the subsequent year. 2. Valpo plays ONE weekday OOC game. This is against UCF, a team from the AAC - conference home of the defending champion. 3. Competition is much better. SLU, Murray State, and LMU are good teams. 4. Valpo has some good ideas to bring in attendance, finally. Retiring Bryce's number, raising the banner are going to bring in a lot of attendance.
SOS and scheduling opponents isn't a new problem. Playing non-D1 teams isn't new. Valpo's had this problem forever. I really like this schedule in comparison to other years... I wish last year's team was here for this schedule, but if each year is like this, I'd be happy. This is the first year since joining Horizon that there's multiple games to get excited about at home. Purdue and Akron were nice games to schedule, but the rest of the schedule was always littered with long acronym'ed schools. Our D1 OOC home games are all teams with past success and should be interesting, competitive games.
I have updated the pinned schedule: http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=291.0 (http://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=291.0)
Quote from: wh on September 08, 2013, 08:35:29 AMLook for a complete schedule breakdown with Valpo basketball head coach Bryce Drew on next week's Inside Valpo Athletics.
First priority, scheduling nearby teams to reduce the travel? Really? Hard to believe. But, I'm sure he's just keeping the explanation simple.
Quote from: chef on September 09, 2013, 10:29:42 PM
I'll take a shot at some of these. ESPN3 games are full ESPN crews...production and announcers. It didn't used to be this way, but was changed a few years ago. HLN games of the week are carried by some local TV stations, primarily in Horizon League cities. ESPNU/ESPN3 usually would mean both outlets. Although I know some people couldn't get ESPNU games on the internet (others could). I would think if anyone is deciding to go to a game or watch it on the internet - the HLN broadcast would be more likely to keep them at home for the home town call ;)!
Thanks, chef. As a follow up, does anyone know how much revenue the Horizon League generates from the ESPN deal and how that revenue is split?
I did some quick research online and discovered Homer Drew's first official game as Valpo coach seems to have been Nov. 24, 1988 at Butler. (Valpo lost 83-53 but came back later in the season to beat Butler in a home game by 104-83.) Therefore, this November we will be celebrating a 25-year silver anniversary of Drew leadership (Homer, Scott, and Bryce). The closest game to recognize this milestone will be VU's home game against James Madison on Saturday, Nov. 23.
As we get ready for the new season to begin, a recap video from last season. (My musical taste suggests that you turn the volume down except for the excerpt when Chef calls Ryan's shot.)
2012-2013 Valpo Men's Basketball Highlight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBeXtzBBWXA#ws)
Quote from: valpopal on September 12, 2013, 08:29:04 PMAs we get ready for the new season to begin, a recap video from last season.
Nice video! Very well done. Fine music too.
As my wife says, what are we going to do without all those guys?!
Very cool. I can't wait till we show the world we didn't miss a beat!!