@valpoathletics: @Valpobasketball has accepted an invitation to participate in the CollegeInsider.com Tournament. More details to follow...
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/443142424878002176
Great news!
HUZZAH
As flat as the team has been in recent outings how much this might help the returning players is at least questionable. Let us hope that everyone takes the challenge seriously so that we can get some positive return on time, effort and financial investments.
On a side note is this the year the team could take a summer exhibition game tour as they did in 2010?
Ducky - While we may not know how much the players will benefit from playing, we do know how much they'll benefit from not playing. Not much risk when you think of it that way. :)
I would get Yeo as many minutes as possible. Sit Coleman and play Yeo.
Does anyone think that the team's performance in this year's HL tournament might cause BD to reevaluate how he approaches coaching his squad?
I base this on only what I've seen from afar. Bryce is nice, pleasant and a gentleman at (pretty much) all times. He probably doesn't even say 'darn,' His teams, when they have the talent, can stay with anyone, but there are times when some fire in the belly of coach needs to be communicated to the players. Sometimes tough love is the best love -- especially when it comes to young men.
I look at the slow starts and the need to come from behind so many times this season (certainly a tribute to the players and the coaches, no doubt), but I was at the UWM game last Friday, and there was a definite contrast in environments:
Valpo -- Going about our business. Even timeouts were business-like.
UWM -- I'm gonna kick some a$$!
Winner -- UWM
Thoughts?
Any team can beat any other team on any given night, I think that is what happened with UWM getting hot for a few days and catching Valpo and GB on off nights. I don't think Bryce all of a sudden becomes a teller/screamer/curser, but I would guarantee he is always learning and studying to improve his coaching.
To your point, I don't think anyone would argue that we didn't match Milwaukee's energy level the other night and it's hard to explain. That said, from what I witnessed in the numerous games I attended both home and away Bryce was more animated this year than ever before. He challenged the officials in a strong manner many times and was very demonstrative with the players when the occasion called for it.
An earlier poster got their wish as Oren tweets that Capo and Coleman won't play in the CIT
Quote from: wh on March 10, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
To your point, I don't think anyone would argue that we didn't match Milwaukee's energy level the other night and it's hard to explain. That said, from what I witnessed in the numerous games I attended both home and away Bryce was more animated this year than ever before. He challenged the officials in a strong manner many times and was very demonstrative with the players when the occasion called for it.
Yeah, Bryce is the farthest thing from a gentle coach, whether it is with his players or with the refs. He's gotten Techs, for crying out loud.
If you want him to grab players by the jersey and yank them around, I part company with ya, on the other hand.
Jeter's so passive, you don't even notice he's there. I wouldn't overreact to one game. One day were worried about Bryce Leaving for every open job ever and the next his coaching style is too passive to be effective.
Quote from: HC on March 10, 2014, 07:20:00 PMAn earlier poster got their wish as Oren tweets that Capo and Coleman won't play in the CIT
Note that Capo is because of injury, although that's strange to say "he's out for the CIT" when you don't know how long it can last--usually you'd say "he'd be available for a second or third game".
As to Coleman, the only responder to Paul Oren's tweet said "that ain't the truth that's just what Bryce drew wants the media to believe". Hard to slough off that comment when it's made by someone who knows Jordan from Calabasas...
Quote from: a3uge on March 10, 2014, 07:52:06 PMJeter's so passive, you don't even notice he's there.
Oh, I'd beg to differ with that. I've seen him get T'ed up. Wait, he *should* have gotten T'ed up, but didn't (Jan. 2008 at the ARC). None of these guys are passive. Relatively speaking, Scott Sutton always seemed a little more passive than his counterparts back in the day, but I doubt he actually was.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 10, 2014, 08:24:48 PMAs to Coleman, the only responder to Paul Oren's tweet said "that ain't the truth that's just what Bryce drew wants the media to believe". Hard to slough off that comment when it's made by someone who knows Jordan from Calabasas...
Also (I notice a lot about the twitterz for someone who doesn't have one or spend much time there at all) but the Oren tweet was liked by precisely ONE (1) person. Intrigued, I sought out who and found...
...yeah, Clay Yeo's girlfriend.
Quote from: StlVUFan on March 10, 2014, 07:28:07 PM
Yeah, Bryce is the farthest thing from a gentle coach, whether it is with his players or with the refs. He's gotten Techs, for crying out loud.
If you want him to grab players by the jersey and yank them around, I part company with ya, on the other hand.
I'm not a grab-the-jersey kind of guy myself -- that's all bluster and little substance -- and I would never want to see that as representative of my alma mater. But.... there has to be something Bryce can add to his bag of coaching tricks to have his kids come out of the blocks smoking. Up to now, our kids seem to need the adversity of being behind before they kick it into the gear that will win a game for them. And IMO this was not just this year.
I don't know the Wichita State coach at all, but before they faced off with Indiana State in the MVC final, he took exactly 43 second to show his kids the planned victory celebration in Terra Haute for ISU's win on his iPad. They smoked ISU from the opening buzzer. He created intensity among his players.
So, explain to me why a team that we beat at home and then beat on the road by 15 can beat us two weeks later in a neutral site. I was there in Green Bay. We were lethargic from the start. The only consistent intensity was in black uniforms. Our team, again IMO, expected a walk over win, played that way, and lost. In other sports and when the coach is not a legend, the coach gets the 'credit' for a team not being as prepared as they should have been. I'm just saying I think that was the case and that I'm sure Bryce will learn from this. Isn't that what life is all about -- continually learning from your experiences
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 10, 2014, 10:51:22 PMIn other sports and when the coach is not a legend, the coach gets the 'credit' for a team not being as prepared as they should have been. I'm just saying I think that was the case
Whoa! 62, you're getting mighty close to saying that Bryce didn't do his job well to a bunch of Valpo fanatics. That is mighty dangerous territory. It might even come close to being "realistic." Which is something that nobody has been able to define yet (per LaPorte). You, sir, are certainly one to not shy away from controversy.
I think that this will be a good experience for our young guys, and hopefully everyone that plays takes it seriously. It doesn't bother me that Coleman won't be playing, but I would have liked to see Bobby get one more game. Even though he can do some boneheaded stuff, he plays with more passion than most of our team.
Quote from: valpotx on March 11, 2014, 01:03:24 AM
I think that this will be a good experience for our young guys, and hopefully everyone that plays takes it seriously. It doesn't bother me that Coleman won't be playing, but I would have liked to see Bobby get one more game. Even though he can do some boneheaded stuff, he plays with more passion than most of our team.
Per my previous "controversial" post ;) , it'll be interesting to see whether lessons learned at the Resch Center last week will translate into a little more fire in their play -- especially in the first 10 minutes.
There are more than two ingredients (coaching and talent) that go into making a "team". Chemistry and personality are two huge contributing factors that I think have changed as this season progressed. I hope that Bobby and Jordan will still support the team and that perhaps we will see some better chemistry and passion with the remaining active players as the changing of the guard probably begins in earnest for next year.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 10, 2014, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: StlVUFan on March 10, 2014, 07:28:07 PM
Yeah, Bryce is the farthest thing from a gentle coach, whether it is with his players or with the refs. He's gotten Techs, for crying out loud.
If you want him to grab players by the jersey and yank them around, I part company with ya, on the other hand.
I'm not a grab-the-jersey kind of guy myself -- that's all bluster and little substance -- and I would never want to see that as representative of my alma mater. But.... there has to be something Bryce can add to his bag of coaching tricks to have his kids come out of the blocks smoking. Up to now, our kids seem to need the adversity of being behind before they kick it into the gear that will win a game for them. And IMO this was not just this year.
I don't know the Wichita State coach at all, but before they faced off with Indiana State in the MVC final, he took exactly 43 second to show his kids the planned victory celebration in Terra Haute for ISU's win on his iPad. They smoked ISU from the opening buzzer. He created intensity among his players.
So, explain to me why a team that we beat at home and then beat on the road by 15 can beat us two weeks later in a neutral site. I was there in Green Bay. We were lethargic from the start. The only consistent intensity was in black uniforms. Our team, again IMO, expected a walk over win, played that way, and lost. In other sports and when the coach is not a legend, the coach gets the 'credit' for a team not being as prepared as they should have been. I'm just saying I think that was the case and that I'm sure Bryce will learn from this. Isn't that what life is all about -- continually learning from your experiences
This isn't directed at you personally, but it seems fairly typical of a number of posts I've read this season portraying Bryce as some greenhorn kid wet behind the ears who regularly makes mistakes out of inexperience. This attitude seems to manifest itself with nitpicky comments after every loss - Bryce got out coached, Bryce made the wrong substitutions, Bryce needed to call a timeout at a crucial time and didn't, Bryce called too many time outs at crucial times and didn't have any left at the end, Bryce didn't display enough emotion, on and on and on.
First off, Bryce is anything but an inexperienced kid learning on the job. Before taking his first head coaching position he was a collegiate star, a 6-year NBA veteran, and served as the top asst. coach for 5 years. We won a HL regular season championship in his first year as head coach, after which he was named coach of the year. In his 2nd year we won HL regular season and tournament championships. After losing nearly our entire team from a year ago, he brought in a bumper crop of talented freshmen and we finished 4th after being picked 6th. Next year should be better than this and the next year better yet.
Is Bryce perfect, of course not. But I'll take him over any other coach in the Horizon League - hands down. Some guys in this league can recruit but can't coach, others are good with x's and o's, but are lousy recruiters. Yet a couple of others seem to be able to recruit and coach but they are bullies, or lack discipline, or recruit bad actors, etc. Bryce is the complete package - an excellent coach, an excellent recruiter, and a great mentor and role model for impressionable young men at a crucial time in their development. That's why I support Bryce Drew and always will. It has nothing to do with him being "a legend" or any other superficial reason.
Quote from: wh on March 11, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 10, 2014, 10:51:22 PM
Quote from: StlVUFan on March 10, 2014, 07:28:07 PM
Yeah, Bryce is the farthest thing from a gentle coach, whether it is with his players or with the refs. He's gotten Techs, for crying out loud.
If you want him to grab players by the jersey and yank them around, I part company with ya, on the other hand.
I'm not a grab-the-jersey kind of guy myself -- that's all bluster and little substance -- and I would never want to see that as representative of my alma mater. But.... there has to be something Bryce can add to his bag of coaching tricks to have his kids come out of the blocks smoking. Up to now, our kids seem to need the adversity of being behind before they kick it into the gear that will win a game for them. And IMO this was not just this year.
I don't know the Wichita State coach at all, but before they faced off with Indiana State in the MVC final, he took exactly 43 second to show his kids the planned victory celebration in Terra Haute for ISU's win on his iPad. They smoked ISU from the opening buzzer. He created intensity among his players.
So, explain to me why a team that we beat at home and then beat on the road by 15 can beat us two weeks later in a neutral site. I was there in Green Bay. We were lethargic from the start. The only consistent intensity was in black uniforms. Our team, again IMO, expected a walk over win, played that way, and lost. In other sports and when the coach is not a legend, the coach gets the 'credit' for a team not being as prepared as they should have been. I'm just saying I think that was the case and that I'm sure Bryce will learn from this. Isn't that what life is all about -- continually learning from your experiences
This isn't directed at you personally, but I've read a number of posts this season that portray Bryce as some greenhorn kid wet behind the ears who regularly makes mistakes out of inexperience. This attitude seems to manifest itself with nitpicky comments after every loss - Bryce got out coached, Bryce made the wrong substitutions, Bryce needed to call a timeout at crucial times and didn't, Bryce called too many time outs at crucial times and didn't have any left at the end, Bryce didn't display enough emotion, on and on and on.
First off, Bryce is anything but an inexperienced kid learning on the job. Before taking his first head coaching position he was a collegiate star, a 6-year NBA veteran, and served as the top asst. coach for 5 years. We won a HL regular season championship in his first year as head coach, after which he was named coach of the year. In his 2nd year we won HL regular season and tournament championships. After losing nearly our entire team from a year ago, he brought in a bumper crop of talented freshmen and we finished 4th after being picked 6th. Next year should be better than this and the next year better yet.
Is Bryce perfect, of course not. But I'll take him over any other coach in the Horizon League - hands down. Some guys in this league can recruit but can't coach, others are good with x's and o's, but are lousy recruiters. Yet a couple of others seem to be able to recruit and coach but they are bullies, or lack discipline, or recruit bad actors, etc. Bryce is the complete package - an excellent coach, an excellent recruiter, and a great mentor and role model for impressionable young men at a crucial time in their development. That's why I support Bryce Drew and always will. It has nothing to do with him being "a legend" or any other superficial reason.
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I was just looking at the brackets from last year's CIT. Some solid teams from the Valley (Northern Iowa, Bradley, Evansville), and others from all over the place but including good programs like Kent State, Oral Roberts and Weber State, who had a record of 30-6 going into the CIT Title game. How were they snubed by the NIT?? What was a little disconcerting was the fact that Chicago State made the field with a record of 11-21. How in the heck did that happen?
Quote from: vu72 on March 11, 2014, 02:54:55 PMI was just looking at the brackets from last year's CIT. What was a little disconcerting was the fact that Chicago State made the field with a record of 11-21. How in the heck did that happen?
CSU made it last year because they won their 4 team conference.
Quote from: vu72 on March 11, 2014, 02:54:55 PM
I was just looking at the brackets from last year's CIT. Some solid teams from the Valley (Northern Iowa, Bradley, Evansville), and others from all over the place but including good programs like Kent State, Oral Roberts and Weber State, who had a record of 30-6 going into the CIT Title game. How were they snubed by the NIT?? What was a little disconcerting was the fact that Chicago State made the field with a record of 11-21. How in the heck did that happen?
The Great West Conference received an automatic bid to the CIT since they didn't have enough schools for the NCAA tourney. NJIT was the only school left this year and essentially folded. Chicago State is in the WAC now, former home of practically every western school including Arizona, Arizona State, Bosie State, BYU, New Mexico, TCU...
Some commentator this week said that you can coach, cajole, counsel, consult, caution and kick in the pants as a coach, but in the end, the players have to play and put the ball in the hoop.
Glad that we will get the youngsters some post-season play. Allows for extra practice time, which is as critical as the actual games. Win a couple and try to win a tourney.
BTW, our opponents have been doing well in tourneys -- Mercer wins A-Sun and ETSU was in semis, Murray State lost in OVC semis was 13-3 in conf. SLU will be in tourney. Ohio 22 wins.
We're hosting a first round game? How much did that cost?
http://posttrib.suntimes.com/sports/26120974-556/valparaiso-makes-4th-straight-cit.html (http://posttrib.suntimes.com/sports/26120974-556/valparaiso-makes-4th-straight-cit.html)
Quote from: wh on March 11, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
First off, Bryce is anything but an inexperienced kid learning on the job. [AGREED - but even Coach K, Petino, and Roy Williams learn and apply new things each season -- that's what makes them great] Before taking his first head coaching position he was a collegiate star, a 6-year NBA veteran, and served as the top asst. coach for 5 years. We won a HL regular season championship in his first year as head coach, after which he was named coach of the year. In his 2nd year we won HL regular season and tournament championships. After losing nearly our entire team from a year ago, he brought in a bumper crop of talented freshmen and we finished 4th after being picked 6th [Like you, I'm sure, I smiled at the end of the season knowing that this team outperformed the prognosticators]. Next year should be better than this and the next year better yet. [AGREED - can't wait to see the jump in on-court maturity from our freshmen - should be great to watch.]
Is Bryce perfect, of course not [Please see below]. But I'll take him over any other coach in the Horizon League - hands down. [AGREED - I'm with ya on that -- great leader and example for young men who has a wealth of coaching tools] Some guys in this league can recruit but can't coach, others are good with x's and o's, but are lousy recruiters. Yet a couple of others seem to be able to recruit and coach but they are bullies, or lack discipline, or recruit bad actors, etc. Bryce is the complete package - an excellent coach, an excellent recruiter, and a great mentor and role model for impressionable young men at a crucial time in their development. That's why I support Bryce Drew and always will. [AGREED - Me too, but that doesn't mean I must refrain from expressing a concern and a hope that an area in need of improvement is addressed going forward] It has nothing to do with him being "a legend" or any other superficial reason.
No, he is not perfect -- is anyone? But he's still pretty darned good, and I worry we will eventually lose him. My post came down to
adding to his bag of coaching tricks (his coaching tool box, if you will) to deal with what many posters, not just a few, have stated numerous times: We start off slow and sometimes can't recover. I believe he will find a way (or ways) to adjust that team mindset and the players, as well as the staff, will be the stronger for it. But, IMO, it does need to be addressed.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 11, 2014, 05:20:45 PM[AGREED - Me too, but that doesn't mean I must refrain from expressing a concern and a hope that an area in need of improvement is addressed going forward]
Great point, 62! Just because we criticize Valpo doesn't mean we're not included in Valpo fanatics.
Forgot that maybe Bryce needs to work on his "game face" for '62....
http://youtu.be/LqKTKUvbVsA (http://youtu.be/LqKTKUvbVsA)
At one point in history Chicago was in the west...
I hope they use this tournament (or game) to get some feel for next year. This is a glorified scrimmage, so I hope they treat it as such. Of course play to win, but that doesn't mean you can't work on some things for next year.
A Google search has found these participants:
Nebraska-Omaha has confirmed they will host a first round game (16-14, 5-9) summit
Brown University has confirmed they will host a game in the Pizzitola Sports Center (15-13, 7-7) Ivy
San Diego Toreros confirmed they will host a game at Jenny Craig arena (16-16, 7-11) West Coast Conference
Murray State confirmed they have accepted the bid to the CIT, but will probably decline hosting a 1st round game since it's spring break (18-11, 13-3)
Northern Iowa has DECLINED CIT and CBI bids... they are done.
Looking at the standings of the "local" conferences...
So Dakota State 19-12 - Summit
Morehead State 20-13 OVC
SE Missouri 18-14 OVC
Indiana State 23-10 (probably NIT bound)
Missouri State 20-12 (MVC)
Wagner 19-12 (Northeast)
Bryant 18-14 (Northeast)
Quinnipiac (20-11) Metro Atl
Canisius (21-12) Metro Atl
SC-Upstate (19-14) A-Sun
MAC Tournament starts tomorrow:
Akron 20-11
Buffalo 19-9
W Mich 21-9
E Mich 19-13
(Toledo is probably a lock for NIT)
(Belmont looks like lock for CBI/NIT)
Quote from: talksalot on March 11, 2014, 09:19:22 PM(Belmont looks like lock for CBI/NIT)
Belmont will be in the NIT. Since they won their conference's regular season they get an auto-bid to that.
Quote from: talksalot on March 11, 2014, 09:19:22 PMSan Diego Toreros confirmed they will host a game at Jenny Craig arena
what time's the weigh-in?
Quote from: classof2014 on March 11, 2014, 07:23:12 PMAt one point in history Chicago was in the west
Hail! Hail to Michigan, the Champions of the West!
Hello IPFW? After losing to ND State they could be our opponent.
We could win a tournament like this, if our players take it seriously. Mercer won it 2 years ago, and are now in their first NCAA tournament since 1985
In reality, it will take a huge attitude adjustment to win this tournament. The beloved Crusader have been very sluggish the past month, and looked below par in their games against UIC and UWM. It's good that they are in this tournament to get more experience and to give the underclassmen some post season experience.
For an attitude adjustment, maybe Carlson needs to make a suprise return and provide some Joel Osteen quotes...
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 12, 2014, 06:20:23 AMFor an attitude adjustment, maybe Carlson needs to make a suprise return and provide some Joel Osteen quotes...
(http://www.systemcomic.com/comics/2012-03-02-toosoon.gif)
Here's a quote from Joel Osteen that both the seniors on the basketball team and football team could take to heart:
"You must make a decision that you are going to move on. It won't happen automatically. You will have to rise up and say, 'I don't care how hard this is, I don't care how disappointed I am, I'm not going to let this get the best of me. I'm moving on with my life."
― Joel Osteen, Your Best Life Now: 7 Steps to Living at Your Full Potential
Thanks, Dale.
Do we have to wait until Selection Sunday to find out when we play? It's certainly not helping ticket sales to not be able to sell tickets until we find out when we're playing. C'mon CIT, tell us at least when we play.
I don't remember that any of the non-Big Six conferences conclude their tournaments that late. It would be down to only a couple of teams that might make the NCAAs or NIT fields who wouldn't accept a CIT invite. Still, unless the field is complete I doubt any decisions as to scheduling would be possible. Last time we played in it we were matched with Iona. Iona is located in New York and travel plans would need to be finalized etc, versus us matched up with say, IPFW.
It would be great to play IPFW at home. Maybe that would allow us to get more than 1,500 people at the game. I don't see that large of a crowd showing up for CIT games, unfortunately.
The CIT site says the first round games are March 18-19, which makes them Tuesday/Wednesday if I counted right!
Are the students back from break? If so, maybe we get a few of them to show up at least.
Quote from: HC on March 12, 2014, 12:08:26 PM
Are the students back from break? If so, maybe we get a few of them to show up at least.
Classes resume on Monday. Here is further info about tickets and a pep rally.
Faculty and staff get free admission to section E in the lower bleachers. All other tickets are reduced: $15 for chairbacks, $7.50 for bleachers. Game will begin at 7 pm Tuesday or Wednesday. There will be a pep rally at 5 pm in Hilltop. More info about that will be forthcoming.
Wow they really don't want to have this thing turn into Ionagate.
Tues. 7:05PM vs Columbia
The game appears to be on the Horizon League Network
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 12, 2014, 10:29:59 AMThanks, Dale.
Where's Ron Burgandy when you need him?
There was a report today on local media that IPFW will be in the CIT...would they be paired with us?
Paul Oren @NWIOren 17m
Lavonte Dority on playing in CIT -- "We want to win this thing. We want to go out the right way." #HLMBB
NEW YORK – The Columbia University men's basketball program has accepted a bid to play in the CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament (CIT), Dr. M. Dianne Murphy, Director, Intercollegiate Athletics and Physical Education announced today.
"We are thrilled to participate in the CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament," Murphy said. "We are so proud of the season our men's basketball team had. I can think of no better way to cap off a wonderful season than by participating in a great postseason tournament."
The Lions will travel to Valparaiso, Indiana to play Valparaiso on Tuesday, March 18, 2014 at 7:05 p.m. Central Time for Columbia's first post season appearance since the 1967-68 season.
Columbia is 1-1 all-time vs. the Crusaders, earning a 66-64 win in 1957 and losing to Valparaiso 71-55 in 2001.
Columbia enters the CIT at 19-12, 8-6 in the Ivy League, marking the most wins since 1969-70 and the most Ivy League wins since 1992-93.
"We are excited for this opportunity to play in the CIT," head men's basketball coach Kyle Smith said. "It has always been our goal to play in the postseason. It is fantastic to see our team reach one of their goals."
Here are their stats:
http://www.gocolumbialions.com/fls/9600/Stats/MBB/2013/teamcume.htm#TEAM.IND (http://www.gocolumbialions.com/fls/9600/Stats/MBB/2013/teamcume.htm#TEAM.IND)
Missouri State will be hosting Murray State
Grand Canyon Antelopes will be in the tournament
VMI will be in the tournament (first post-season in 37 years)
Checking out the pronounciation on the Columbia Lion roster... two things jumped out. 1. They are typical Ivy League, from all over the country. 2. No Seniors on the roster.
1 Coby, Jeff F 6-8 220 Fr. Pembroke Pines, Fla. (Choate Rosemary Hall/Sagemont)
2 Cohen, Isaac G 6-4 210 So. Orlando, Fla. (Orlando Christian Prep) <<Leading Rebounder
3 Mullins, Grant G 6-3 175 So. Burlington, Ontario, Canada (REDA/Notre Dame)
5 Frankoski, Steve G 6-2 175 Jr. Florham Park, N.J. (St. Benedict's Prep)
11 En'Wezoh, Zach F 6-8 220 So. Kennewick, Wash. (Kamiakin)
12 Lo, Maodo G 6-3 180 So. Berlin, Germany (Wilbraham & Monson) <<Second Leading Scorer
13 Rosenberg, Alex F 6-7 215 Jr. Short Hills, N.J. (Millburn) <<leading scorer, 213 of 258 Free Throws, 82%
14 Jackson, Kendall G 5-8 160 Fr. Union City, Calif. (Suffield Academy/Bishop O'Dowd)
20 Quinn, Paddy G 6-1 175 So. Ramsey, N.J. (Don Bosco Prep)
21 Springwater, Noah G 6-3 175 Jr. San Francisco, Calif. (University)
22 Lyles, Meiko G 6-3 190 Jr. Nashville, Tenn. (University School)
23 Osetkowski, Cory C 6-11 258 Jr. Rancho Santa Fe, Calif. (Canyon Crest) <<Leading Blocker (32)
32 McComber, Chris F 6-8 225 Fr. Nepean, Ontario (John McCrae Secondary School/REDA)
33 Petrasek, Luke F 6-10 205 Fr. East Northport, N.Y. (Northport)
52 Voss, Conor C 7-1 245 Fr. St. Cloud, Minn. (St. Cloud Cathedral) Averages 1.9 minutes/game, scored 1 point for the season
Average Home Crowd: 1,450 (Penn/ Princeton drew 2400; had several December games with 500-600 crowds.)
Did play at Izzo-land, lost by 9
Road wins over Princeton , Cornell, Colgate and Dartmouth.
Finished 3rd in the Ivy, tied with Princeton at 8-6. RPI is 130, 0-4 against top 50
Quote from: talksalot on March 12, 2014, 08:24:53 PMDid play at Izzo-land, lost by 9
Wow. You ain't lion--that's impressive, even though MSU has been down this year.
I'm going to show some of my much-vaunted restraint and not make any jokes about any of their names.
IPFW has also accepted a bid to the CIT, haven't heard an opponent named yet. Would love to see us get a chance to play and take them to the woodshed. IPFW played a s#*t Non Conf schedule with a SOS of 307. They really think the we ducked them this year by not continuing our home and home contract with them. They were the 2 seed in the Summit and led 38 of the 40 minutes of the championship game against RPI 32 North Dakota State. #32 really??? I know they beat 3 teams in the 51-100 RPI range and only lost to 1 while also beating Notre Dame, but watching them last night I couldn't help but think that a healthy Green Bay would have wiped the floor with them. No way they only lose 2 conference games in the Horizon.
Of all the people on this board, I like you in FIRED UP MODE the best.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 12, 2014, 10:37:33 PM
Of all the people on this board, I like you in FIRED UP MODE the best.
Thank you very much LAA.
Yes, wh, thank you for that impassioned response on Bryce Drew.
My only add: I don't trust anyone except perhaps for recent college athletes like valpotx to accurately interpret body language or accurately discern desire. Those kinds of arguments get absolutely nowhere with me. Unless you're that professor character from the recent TV series "Lie to me" (which I loved), it goes in one of my ears and out the other without being processed.
It seems to me athletes have a variety of ways to comport themselves. You could line up a whole bunch of players who all excelled at every facet of the game, and you could easily draw the hasty conclusion that half of them didn't care very much or were never fired up, which to me invalidates that whole mindset.
Quote from: StlVUFan on March 14, 2014, 04:38:11 PMit goes in one of my ears and out the other without being processed.
And that is unusual? ;D
on the HL facebook page:
For the second straight year, the Wright State men's basketball team will play in a post-season tournament as the Raiders will play at East Carolina in the first round of the CollegeInsider.com Tournament (CIT) Tuesday, March 18, at 7 p.m. ET. WSU ...
Quote from: talksalot on March 14, 2014, 07:40:36 PMFor the second straight year, the Wright State men's basketball team will play in the kind of post-season tournament it's just a little harder to get up for as the Raiders will play at East Carolina in the first round of the CollegeInsider.com Tournament (CIT) Tuesday, March 18, at 7 p.m. ET. WSU ...
fixed it for them
and us / sad face
How does the 2nd round work? Do they re-seed the teams? Do they try and find geographical regions?
Yes and Yes. "Geography is king" in the future rounds. Another First round game...Quinnipiac and Yale (IVY #3)... are only 11 miles apart. and They are only 102 miles from Providence where Brown is hosting Holy Cross. Holy Cross is 88 miles from Quinnipiac... I'm guessing the winners get together in round 2
If IPFW can get past their first game "against an opponent yet to be determined. "... we get them in the second round.... not sure why we would not.
How to get students to come to the game.
just posted on the Athletics Facebook page
":Students, come to the game against Columbia early on Tuesday and Coach Bryce will buy you pizza! He'll personally ask you to come tomorrow during lunch in Founders'."
Well that keeps us from having a bracket contest.
Guess we'll just go round by round.
Here's your first round according to the CIT website:
March 17
Holy Cross at Brown
March 18
Columbia at Valparaiso
Chattanooga at East Tennessee State
Wright State at East Carolina
Norfolk State at Eastern Michigan
Alabama State at Sam Houston State
Portland State at San Diego
VMI at Canisius
March 19
Murray State at Missouri State
Pacific at Grand Canyon
Quinnipiac at Yale
Towson at USC Upstate
Cleveland State at Ohio
Akron at IPFW
North Dakota at Nebraska-Omaha
Texas A&M Corpus Christi at Northern Colorado
FWIW, in spite of analysts' exhortations this time of year to "throw the records out the window!", the same thing, but with records, unless you're USD.
FIRST ROUND
Monday, March 17
Holy Cross (19-13) @ Brown (15-13)
Tuesday, March 18
VMI (19-12) @ Canisius (20-12)
Wright State (20-14) @ East Carolina (17-16)
Norfolk State (19-14) @ Eastern Michigan (21-14)
Chattanooga (18-14) @ ETSU (18-15)
Columbia (19-12) @ Valparaiso (18-15)
Alabama State (19-12) @ Sam Houston State (23-10)
Portland State (17-14) @ San Diego
Wednesday, March 19
Quinnipiac (20-11) @ Yale (15-13)
Towson (23-10) @ USC Upstate (19-14)
Cleveland State (21-11) @ Ohio (23-11)
Akron (21-12) @ IPFW (24-10)
Murray State (18-11) @ Missouri State (20-12)
North Dakota (17-16) @ Nebraska-Omaha (16-14)
Texas A&M Corpus Christi (17-15) @ Northern Colorado (18-13)
Pacific (15-15) @ Grand Canyon (15-14)
Here's the CBI Schedule...(College Basketball Invitational)
3/18/14 Stony Brook @ Siena College Loudonville, NY TBD
3/19/14 Hampton @ Penn State University Park, Pa. TBD
3/19/14 Wyoming @ Texas A&M College Station, Texas TBD
3/19/14 Morehead State @ Illinois State Normal, Ill. TBD
3/19/14 South Dakota State @ Old Dominion Norfolk, Va. TBD
3/19/14 Princeton @ Tulane New Orleans, La. TBD
3/19/14 Radford @ Oregon State Corvallis, Ore. TBD
3/19/14 Fresno State @ UTEP El Paso, Texas TBD
The College Basketball Invitational (CBI) is a postseason tournament comprised of a 16-team field and hosted at on-campus arenas throughout the country. The CBI is a single-elimination tournament, up until the Championship Series. The Championship Series is a best-of-three series. The CBI provides a meaningful opportunity for teams that are deserving of a postseason experience.
Read more: College Basketball Invitational http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/index_main.htm#ixzz2wBT11SKG (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/index_main.htm#ixzz2wBT11SKG)
Read more: Schedule http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/schedule.htm#ixzz2wBSfbtU7 (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/cbi/schedule.htm#ixzz2wBSfbtU7)
5 HL teams in postseason (3 in CIT); probably the most ever for the league (certainly the highest %, 55.5%, of teams).
4 teams from the state of Ohio in the CIT.
Here's the same thing AGAIN but I took the liberty of adding in the RPI numbers from LiveRPI for a bit of context. Gosh, there are some real dogs in this field.
FIRST ROUND
Monday, March 17
Holy Cross (127) @ Brown (229)
Tuesday, March 18
VMI (211) @ Canisius (96)
Wright State (173) @ East Carolina (216)
Norfolk State (227) @ Eastern Michigan (86)
Chattanooga (243) @ ETSU (206)
Columbia (130) @ Valparaiso (184)
Alabama State (254) @ Sam Houston State (112)
Portland State (252) @ San Diego (156)
Wednesday, March 19
Quinnipiac (105) @ Yale (147)
Towson (95) @ USC Upstate (163)
Cleveland State (91) @ Ohio (87)
Akron (93) @ IPFW (115)
Murray State (142) @ Missouri State (85)
North Dakota (197) @ Nebraska-Omaha (219)
Texas A&M Corpus Christi (249) @ Northern Colorado (205)
Pacific (133) @ Grand Canyon (203)
Obviously marquee matchup is CSU-Ohio (avg RPI 89); nothing else really comes close to averaging 100 save Akron-IPFW (104). Dog of the first round is TA&M-CC @ NCol (227...).
OK I'll Start the pool... 16 First-Round Games... here goes:
FIRST ROUND
Monday, March 17
Holy Cross
Tuesday, March 18
Canisius
Wright State
Eastern Michigan
ETSU
Valparaiso
Sam Houston State
San Diego
Wednesday, March 19
Yale
USC Upstate
Cleveland State <<But it will take a miracle @ohio>>
Akron
Missouri State
North Dakota
Northern Colorado
Grand Canyon
Our Second Round matchup will depend on how the MAC (3 teams) and the HL (3 teams) fare. Wright State has only played BGSU from the MAC; Cleveland State has already played EMU, Akron, Toledo, Ball State and Kent.... so it would appear Akron or EMU might be on the radar... BUT HEY... Let's beat the Lions First! We've already beaten a LIONS team once this year.
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on March 16, 2014, 09:50:15 PM5 HL teams in postseason (3 in CIT); probably the most ever for the league (certainly the highest %, 55.5%, of teams).
Wow... let's go back about 12 months for this one...
Valpo - Dancing
Detroit - NIT
Wright State - CBI
UIC - CIT
GBay - CIT
YSU - CIT
and YSU Beat Oakland in the CIT... so 7 of this year's 9 HL teams were in post season...Interesting, No Milwaukee (9th seed in the HL last year) and Cleveland State (8th see in the HL last year). The Times They are a Changin'
With three of them winning games, which somehow I failed to notice until last night. Hard to jeep following the HL once Valpo's done.
YSU's first postseason win ever, apparently (and first appearance ?).
Is the state of Indiana a little thinly, or weakly, represented in the postseason this year?
Quote from: talksalot on March 16, 2014, 10:05:57 PMValpo - Dancing
Detroit - NIT
Wright State - CBI
UIC - CIT
GBay - CIT
YSU - CIT
Whoops.
Woulda coulda shoulda....
Here's the second round of the CIT:
Friday, March 21
Towson (24-10) @ ETSU (19-15) 7:00 pm
Saturday, March 22
IPFW (25-10) @ VMI (20-12) 1:00
Wright State (21-14) @ Ohio (23-11) 2:00 pm
Yale (16-13) @ Holy Cross (20-13) 7:00 pm
Eastern Michigan (22-14) @ Columbia (20-12) 7:00 pm
San Diego (17-16) @ Sam Houston State (24-10) 8:00 pm
Texas A&M C.C. (18-15) @ Pacific (16-15) 10:00 pm
Monday, March 24
Nebraska-Omaha (17-14) @ Murray State (19-11) 8:00 pm
FW papers say that IPFW will play their 2nd round game at Ohio U.
Interesting!
http://www.collegeinsider.com/college-basketball-tournament/schedule-results.php (http://www.collegeinsider.com/college-basketball-tournament/schedule-results.php)
and the IPFW and VMI athletics web pages all say IPFW @ VMI.
I wonder where we would have slotted in, if we'd won. Clearly some additional team would have to host a game, making it hard to predict. Hosting IPFW? @ ETSU or @ Murray State? Could have been @ IPFW, I suppose.
I imagine that we would have hosted IPFW. I can't think that they would have placed us @ ETSU, for a second game there this season. Even though they don't use the same logic as the NIT, I would hope they would avoid regular season matchups for as long as possible.
IPFW beat Akron last night before a near sellout of 1,476.
Near sellout? 1500 fans? Was this played at a local high school?
no, because it wasn't the HL Tourney ca. 2015, according to some on this board.
IPFW stopped playing at the Memorial Coliseum in Ft Wayne and starting playing back at their on campus facility which doesn't have near the seating that the Coliseum has. It didn't make sense to rent a bigger building that you normally don't come close to filling.
thanks for the explanation.