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Title: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on June 07, 2022, 05:47:52 PM
This should be a fascinating season. We graduated 3 had 3 others who played regular minutes leave. In all we lose:
Points 67%
Rebounds 54%
3 pointers 73%
Assist, steals and blocked shots all over 70%.

We replaced this with 3 guards though 2 are 5-10 which may make them forwards. Both transfers look like good shooters. Hopefully Tecca is healthy she missed her last two years of HS plus basically 2 more years with injuries. Sims dropped off Oakland's team after playing 12 games.

The freshman apparently joined the team second semester which has to be helpful.

Maybe this is the year Johnston and Beyer earn some action.

Plus we redshirted 2 last season.
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: DuneHwx on June 21, 2022, 08:09:55 AM
Great take on the WBB program by PO yesterday in The Victory Bell for subscribers.
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on June 27, 2022, 11:50:58 AM
Quote from: DuneHwx on June 21, 2022, 08:09:55 AM
Great take on the WBB program by PO yesterday in The Victory Bell for subscribers.
A couple of thoughts on that article and the follow up on Pitts.

Certainly COVID wreaked havoc but we were not alone as every team in the country experienced it. I find that a bit of a cop-out.

Pitts completely threw last year's leadership under the bus.

As I said previously this year should be fascinating.
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on June 27, 2022, 02:15:04 PM
Molly Shannon just entered the portal.
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: JD24 on June 29, 2022, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 27, 2022, 02:15:04 PMMolly Shannon just entered the portal.
I don't think there's a portal for actresses just yet.

Molly Sheehan?
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on June 29, 2022, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: JD24 on June 29, 2022, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 27, 2022, 02:15:04 PMMolly Shannon just entered the portal.
I don't think there's a portal for actresses just yet.

Molly Sheehan?

Her too!
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on July 01, 2022, 11:36:25 PM
https://twitter.com/vjhalways100/status/1542613613533356032?s=21&t=ZwmlzjaYPCxKzwD8ZHlqYg

6-0 wings for 2023 from Fort Wayne Northrop.
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on July 02, 2022, 07:40:06 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on July 01, 2022, 11:36:25 PM
https://twitter.com/vjhalways100/status/1542613613533356032?s=21&t=ZwmlzjaYPCxKzwD8ZHlqYg

6-0 wings for 2023 from Fort Wayne Northrop.

I wonder if this is an "Oppland" like situation where one is the star and the other is just OK but they wanted a school who would take them both and Valpo said yes.  Not sure which is the star but am guessing it's Nevaeh who MaxPreps has ranked #7 in the state.
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on July 02, 2022, 07:50:51 AM
Always 100.


That would be a good name for the new B1G with USC & UCLA.


ALWAYS 100 CONFERENCE


"Who's a flyover state now?"
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: RS on July 02, 2022, 04:43:17 PM
Saniya Jackson led team in scoring (15.4 PPG) and rebounding (10.4 PG)
Nevaeh Jackson was 2nd in scoring (13.4 PPG) but led team in steals, blocks and assists
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on July 05, 2022, 07:18:48 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 29, 2022, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: JD24 on June 29, 2022, 05:05:10 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on June 27, 2022, 02:15:04 PMMolly Shannon just entered the portal.
I don't think there's a portal for actresses just yet.

Molly Sheehan?

Her too!

Sheehan to SIU E
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on July 06, 2022, 03:17:39 AM
Congrats to her!  I felt bad for her, knowing that she enrolled early, and rarely played
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on July 18, 2022, 01:59:42 PM
Another recruit: 5-8 out of Ohiohttps://twitter.com/rayeraye1008/status/1549033383698829312?s=21&t=2jWJ37dCXWApD6lIsh46Kw
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: humbleopinion on July 19, 2022, 02:36:30 PM
Presuming that we'll see this thread all year, could someone please fix its title?
Title: Re: Wonen’s Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on July 19, 2022, 08:26:26 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on July 19, 2022, 02:36:30 PM
Presuming that we'll see this thread all year, could someone please fix its title?

The Supreme Court took some choice away from wonen so I thought this was a protest spelling. Maybe I was wrong.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: humbleopinion on July 20, 2022, 08:55:07 PM
Thanks for the fix.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on July 29, 2022, 03:45:08 PM
Mark Schwitzgable the longest tenured assistant coach was named head coach at D2 Walsh in Ohio. Their prior HC took the IUPUI job.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on September 06, 2022, 01:08:07 PM
Matt et al might want to take some lessons from Mary Evans regarding scheduling.  The women have Southern Miss, UAB, Bowling Green and Western Michigan on the schedule while playing at Northwestern and Wisconsin. Not going to be her strongest team but no fear on the scheduling side.  Good for her!

https://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/schedule/
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpo64 on September 06, 2022, 03:49:30 PM
Cannot compare men's vs women's pre- season schedule.  Our women have not been very good lately and the bigger schools like an almost guaranteed win so getting on their pre-season schedule is not as much of a problem.  While our men's program hasn't been great as of late, larger programs don't always jump to schedule us because we can surprise some teams and potentially beat them.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: DuneHwx on September 06, 2022, 04:28:29 PM
Huh? Our women have beaten Power 5 teams just in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu84v2 on September 06, 2022, 05:06:58 PM
You are both right...Valpo's women's team has beaten several Power 5 teams in recent years, but there are some really weak women's programs in the major conferences. Wisconsin was 8-21 last season. Valpo beat Illinois two seasons ago, but Illinois was 5-18.

Still, I do think that the women's program has been more effective at scheduling in recent years than the men's program.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on November 07, 2022, 07:55:01 PM
Our women surprisingly win their first game at Central Michigan, who we lost against at home last season.  I had figured that it would take 8-10 games to get our feet under us with the large amount of contributors that graduated, but this is hopefully a good sign that we can continue to progress.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on November 07, 2022, 09:09:35 PM
Great win to start the season! Major kudos to Katie Beyer who had played a total of 12 minutes in her 1.5 seasons. She scored 11 with 5 rebounds in 17 minutes!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on November 08, 2022, 01:33:44 AM
Yeah, that was good to see, as she and Molly Sheehan had joined Valpo before their final HS season, due to COVID, and it was sad that neither did anything over the first 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: talksalot on November 12, 2022, 03:20:45 PM
Great win for the Beac's over Southern Miss 72-65  this afternoon...

Brown  15 Pts, 6 Rebs, 2 Assts, 1 steal
Pitts 10, 1 Reb, 3 Assts, 1 steal
Earnest 12, 8 rebs, 1 asst, 1 steal
Saunders 11, 3 assts, 1 block
VanWeelden 9, 6 rebs, 1 block  (Great First Game !)
Dunson 8, 4 Reb, 1 steal

First time EVER starting a season 2-0 where both wins were against D1 teams.

Next home game...is Wednesday AT NOON!   Eastern Illinois.  Game time was changed due to the MVC changing the Volleyball schedule to have the VB team at home on Wednesday night.

Spend your lunch hour-and-a-bit more in the ARC... EIU picked 2nd in the OVC, plays at WIU on Monday.

Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on November 12, 2022, 03:25:38 PM
Yeah, very interesting to see us start out so strong, with so many key players from last year gone.  We seem to be leveraging the dribble drive much more this season, versus just living at the 3-pt line all game.  We are still shooting a lot of 3s, but I see a lot more lane penetration to get to that point.  I hope that keeps up!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on November 12, 2022, 04:49:29 PM
Apparently Mary Evans knows how to basically take a bunch of new/inexperienced players and get them to play together from the get go.  Coaches can do that?  ???
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on November 22, 2022, 12:10:31 AM
Tough loss at home against UAB.  We were up 7 going into the 4th, but blew the lead to go into OT.  UAB came out hot, we stormed back, but UAB scored with 3 seconds left to win in OT.  Ali Saunders sets a FR record with 32 points.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: FWalum on November 22, 2022, 07:59:23 AM
Watched the last quarter of the game, and missed free throws were the difference. Leah Earnest is one of the most gritty physical players I have ever seen in the women's game. Last night she had 13 pts and 13 rbs. Unfortunately she is only shooting a little above 50% from the free throw line and missed 3 crucial FT during crunch time down the stretch in regulation time. Please work on her shooting form, the flying elbow will never allow her to shoot FTs consistently.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpopal on November 22, 2022, 08:26:24 AM
Quote from: FWalum on November 22, 2022, 07:59:23 AM
Watched the last quarter of the game, and missed free throws were the difference.
Speaking of free throws, one could say a technical free throw given to UAB before the game began cost Valpo the game, since the tie to go to overtime would not have happened, and VU would have won by one point without spotting UAB the pre-game point. From what Paul states on Twitter, the technical was issued due to a rule about a faulty shot clock that has been in effect for years, maybe more than a decade, but the NCAA is penalizing beginning this season. So, in effect, a facilities problem may have cost Valpo the win!  :crazy: 
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on November 23, 2022, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: FWalum on November 22, 2022, 07:59:23 AM
Watched the last quarter of the game, and missed free throws were the difference. Leah Earnest is one of the most gritty physical players I have ever seen in the women's game. Last night she had 13 pts and 13 rbs. Unfortunately she is only shooting a little above 50% from the free throw line and missed 3 crucial FT during crunch time down the stretch in regulation time. Please work on her shooting form, the flying elbow will never allow her to shoot FTs consistently.

Did you get to watch Jeanette Gray?
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on November 26, 2022, 10:08:13 AM
What a start for Freshman Ali Saunders not only scoring 32 points last game but is currently averaging 16 points in 19 minutes a game!!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valporun on November 27, 2022, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: valpotx on November 23, 2022, 05:41:29 PM
Quote from: FWalum on November 22, 2022, 07:59:23 AM
Watched the last quarter of the game, and missed free throws were the difference. Leah Earnest is one of the most gritty physical players I have ever seen in the women's game. Last night she had 13 pts and 13 rbs. Unfortunately she is only shooting a little above 50% from the free throw line and missed 3 crucial FT during crunch time down the stretch in regulation time. Please work on her shooting form, the flying elbow will never allow her to shoot FTs consistently.

Did you get to watch Jeanette Gray?

Jeanette looked like a linebacker with a jumper. She played on great teams, and made the rest of the girls on those teams better. Those were the days of VU Women's Basketball.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on December 02, 2022, 11:18:51 PM
Tonight's game against Bowling Green was over minutes into the game. Bowling Green is good but...

We had zero offensive rebounds for the entire game. Has that ever happened?

Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: DMAR30 on January 03, 2023, 01:16:35 AM
What has happened to this team??? Started out 2-0 and now they are 2-8. I know they lost a lot from last year but the last few games haven't been pretty
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on January 03, 2023, 09:05:05 AM
Quote from: DMAR30 on January 03, 2023, 01:16:35 AM
What has happened to this team??? Started out 2-0 and now they are 2-8. I know they lost a lot from last year but the last few games haven't been pretty
To be honest the 2 wins were more of a surprise that the 8 losses.  This team is looking at a long season of losing. If they get to 10 wins kudos to them.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on January 03, 2023, 04:06:24 PM
Again a coach who either can't recruit or doesn't understand what it will take to win in the Valley.  This five out thing just won't cut it.  We have good shooters but making threes without being able to rebound because we are too short won't do it.  Against Belmont we made 11 3's!!, but lost the rebound battle by 9 and lost the game by 14.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: beacons23 on January 05, 2023, 07:57:24 AM
Good chance for a win tonight vs Evansville...
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on January 06, 2023, 12:44:29 AM
Not a good sign when we lose to Evansville in Women's Basketball.  The same can be said if we end up losing to Indiana State, as those two programs are typically the doormats of the MVC.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: Valpofamfan on January 06, 2023, 08:14:41 AM
We just don't have the players. Dunson is having a difficult season in every stat department but is one of our most physical players so is getting a fair number of minutes. Our 2 transfers Sims and Tecca contribute very little. Both Pitts and Saunders (who I think will be a star player if she stays) have stepped up but have some turnover tendencies. Earnest and Brown are solid but not stars who can carry the team to a respectable Valley finish on their own.  The various players that have redshirted and are having roles this year are also just that- role players.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpo64 on January 06, 2023, 10:07:55 AM
Back in November, vu72 posted that Mary Evans knows how to blend together new, transfer personnel.  What are your thoughts now?
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on January 06, 2023, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on January 06, 2023, 10:07:55 AM
Back in November, vu72 posted that Mary Evans knows how to blend together new, transfer personnel.  What are your thoughts now?

I hereby rescind any previous statement or opinion either verbal or written, concerning Mary Evans, her knowledge of blending together new, transfer or any other type of personnel.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valporun on January 07, 2023, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: vu72 on January 06, 2023, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on January 06, 2023, 10:07:55 AM
Back in November, vu72 posted that Mary Evans knows how to blend together new, transfer personnel.  What are your thoughts now?

I hereby rescind any previous statement or opinion either verbal or written, concerning Mary Evans, her knowledge of blending together new, transfer or any other type of personnel.


It's hard to blend this team to win games, when we have ZERO height or physicality inside to contend with other team's frontcourt defense on the boards. We don't have the true shooters and floor general that we had in recent years. Graduation and injuries make this year a rebuild. Hopefully, Evans is out recruiting the height, and not focused on 4 guards who can shoot and dribble, but can't get inside to battle for boards.

Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: beacons23 on January 07, 2023, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: valporun on January 07, 2023, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: vu72 on January 06, 2023, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: valpo64 on January 06, 2023, 10:07:55 AM
Back in November, vu72 posted that Mary Evans knows how to blend together new, transfer personnel.  What are your thoughts now?

I hereby rescind any previous statement or opinion either verbal or written, concerning Mary Evans, her knowledge of blending together new, transfer or any other type of personnel.


5th year here....rebuild?

It's hard to blend this team to win games, when we have ZERO height or physicality inside to contend with other team's frontcourt defense on the boards. We don't have the true shooters and floor general that we had in recent years. Graduation and injuries make this year a rebuild. Hopefully, Evans is out recruiting the height, and not focused on 4 guards who can shoot and dribble, but can't get inside to battle for boards.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valporun on January 07, 2023, 05:27:53 PM
She was winning games in the 4 years prior to this year. She had some success during those years. This year, with the transfer portal running rampant, and not recruiting any height, you take the bad year, and hope for the 6th year bringing some better recruits and talent inside. Keith Freeman had how many bad years before he was finally let go? His successor was just a bad hire altogether. This is the first year Evans had a really bad situation. Not every coach is going to be the most successful when the environment of college athletics is more hostile than US Congress.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpopal on January 07, 2023, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: valporun on January 07, 2023, 05:27:53 PM
She was winning games in the 4 years prior to this year. She had some success during those years. This year, with the transfer portal running rampant, and not recruiting any height, you take the bad year, and hope for the 6th year bringing some better recruits and talent inside. Keith Freeman had how many bad years before he was finally let go? His successor was just a bad hire altogether. This is the first year Evans had a really bad situation. Not every coach is going to be the most successful when the environment of college athletics is more hostile than US Congress.
We must be watching different teams or have a contrasting measure of "success." Her record at VU is a less than mediocre 50-77 (39%) and dropping. Dorow had a 30% winning record but Freeman's teams finished in the top half of the conference 13 out of 18 seasons, winning conference regular season or tournament championships four times. The team has finished in the bottom half of the conference standings every year with Evans. Her best year the team placed 6th in the conference. To "hope for the 6th year bringing some better recruits" is exactly the wishful thinking that got VU where it is with Lottich.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on January 07, 2023, 07:56:22 PM
Quote from: valpopal on January 07, 2023, 06:13:34 PM
Quote from: valporun on January 07, 2023, 05:27:53 PM
She was winning games in the 4 years prior to this year. She had some success during those years. This year, with the transfer portal running rampant, and not recruiting any height, you take the bad year, and hope for the 6th year bringing some better recruits and talent inside. Keith Freeman had how many bad years before he was finally let go? His successor was just a bad hire altogether. This is the first year Evans had a really bad situation. Not every coach is going to be the most successful when the environment of college athletics is more hostile than US Congress.
We must be watching different teams or have a contrasting measure of "success." Her record at VU is a less than mediocre 50-77 (39%) and dropping. Dorow had a 30% winning record but Freeman's teams finished in the top half of the conference 13 out of 18 seasons, winning conference regular season or tournament championships four times. The team has finished in the bottom half of the conference standings every year with Evans. Her best year the team placed 6th in the conference. To "hope for the 6th year bringing some better recruits" is exactly the wishful thinking that got VU where it is with Lottich.
Evans record is similar to the last years of the Freemen era that led to his dismissal. She has one winning season. That team was led by Dorow recruits.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on January 08, 2023, 04:37:22 AM
Since we bring it up with the Men's Basketball team, look at how the transfers are performing elsewhere, at the moment.  I don't know what Shay's motivation was to go to Butler (academic program or truly a conference upgrade), but I had figured that she would have more success than she is currently having.  Hey, she got to be part of a spanking by a prestigious UConn!  Cara is a key starter/player at Wright State, but they suck as 1-15.  Molly is showing progress, and is also a key contributor/starter at a crappy SIU-E (3-12).  Good to see Syria getting some decent PT at the D2 level with PNW (5-11).   

https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4399435/shay-frederick
https://wsuraiders.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/cara-vankempen/5440
https://siuecougars.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/molly-sheehan/11355
https://pnwathletics.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/syria-butler/3175


Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpo64 on January 08, 2023, 02:00:36 PM
No shooters...no height...no hustle...no whatever?   Who recruited the players?  If we can justify being very critical of Lottich's performance, we surely can do the same for Evans.  What a year for Valpo basketball!   
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on January 08, 2023, 02:17:20 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on January 08, 2023, 02:00:36 PM
No shooters...no height...no hustle...no whatever?   Who recruited the players?  If we can justify being very critical of Lottich's performance, we surely can do the same for Evans.  What a year for Valpo basketball!   

I think there are shooters. Brown is shooting 46.8% from the 3 and Ali Saunders is shooting 44.4%.  The problem is size. No one other than Ernest can rebound.  The "five out" thing can't cut it in a conference like the Valley with the size all around the conference.  These are all Evan players.  Bring back Keith
Freeman!  The last coach to take Valpo to the NCAAs.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpo64 on January 09, 2023, 08:54:45 AM
Some can recruit and some have a problem meeting the needs for a team competing in the MVC.  Perhaps Evans is over her head  coaching at this level. 
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: Valpofamfan on January 12, 2023, 12:12:16 AM
11-22 from the free throw line in a game lost by 1 at UIC. Big opportunity missed to snap the losing streak
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on January 12, 2023, 05:57:28 AM
Too bad, losing by 1 on a 3 pointer with 1.9 seconds left.  Agreed that FTs killed it.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpo64 on January 12, 2023, 09:15:30 AM
Some people get lucky once-in-awhile, including coaches.  Remember when the men's team got to the Championship Tourney game a few years back?  I believe that was the first time any team playing on Thursday ever got to the Championship game.  You reap what you sow(recruits, including transfers/portal players).
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on January 12, 2023, 09:20:58 AM
At least our combined basketball loss standing stays intact!  Now 0-12 in conference.  :(
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpopal on January 12, 2023, 09:47:06 AM
The women last won a game on November 12. Looking at the schedule ahead, unless they pull a big upset, the next realistic chance at a victory would be against Bradley on January 29. If they win that game, it would be a gap of 78 days, more than 11 weeks without a W.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on January 14, 2023, 03:00:23 PM
The Women get off the schneid by finishing a major upset at home against what was a 9-5 (4-1) Missouri State team, winning by 9.  We can actually win in Basketball!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on January 14, 2023, 03:02:22 PM
just heard the victory bell ring. I wasn't sure what it was at first.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: Valpofamfan on January 14, 2023, 05:15:18 PM
Yes!! And we didn't win because we shot lights out from 3 - 34 points in the paint and FT% much better than the other day. Also we won the rebounding battle by 5?! Against a team that came in this season on average +12 on their opponents?!?!?!!
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on January 14, 2023, 05:46:21 PM
Credit to Pitts on her game.  Both she and Interrante are to be commended for sticking with Valpo, when they really weren't allowed to shoot in prior seasons.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: justducky on January 14, 2023, 06:05:05 PM
Our first win ever over MSU.

I'm still remembering the Dunson 3 point foul that may have cost us the MSU game 2 years ago. Ouch! That still hurts because they were a ranked team then I believe.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: beacons23 on February 04, 2023, 08:38:50 PM
30 pt blowout today-perhaps start transitioning basketball programs with them
At least our mens team is competitive
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on February 04, 2023, 11:20:40 PM
Quote from: beacons23 on February 04, 2023, 08:38:50 PMAt least our mens team is competitive

But the MBB team still has not beaten a team in the top 8 of the conference standings at this point. NOT GOOD ENOUGH! CLOSE DOESN'T COUNT IN BASKETBALL. HOLDING A COACH TO HIGH STANDARDS IS THE SAME THING VU DOES WITH IT'S STUDENTS IN THEIR ACADEMIC FIELD. WHY DOES THE UNIVERSITY LOWER THE STANDARDS FOR ATHLETICS?
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on February 13, 2023, 11:09:26 AM
Unfortunately this team might be headed to the worst record in history(since they started playing similar number of games to the men's). Evans has had 1 winning season which to be fair is the only one in 14 years. That team was made up of mostly Dorow recruits. As they have left, so have the wins. I stopped after the top 6 teams in the conference but they all have 2-4 players 6-2 to 6-5, most play 2-3 regularly. We have none and have never recruited one with this staff. Could our system work? Maybe but we haven't shown that as very possible. Time for a change.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on February 19, 2023, 04:28:00 PM
Must give kudos with 2 wins this weekend. ISU and UE aren't great but when you only have 4 wins you take any you can get. Interestingly the lineup was changed and our top 2 players are now coming off the bench.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on February 21, 2023, 05:04:48 PM
I noticed the same thing in the lineup switch, and was curious what that was tied.  Brown and Earnest are our two most consistent.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: VULB#62 on March 09, 2023, 11:10:55 PM
Season ends with a 47-72 loss to UIC in the first round of Hoops in the Heartland.  :(
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on March 09, 2023, 11:36:30 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 09, 2023, 11:10:55 PM
Season ends with a 47-72 loss to UIC in the first round of Hoops in the Heartland.  :(

And boom goes the dynamite on Valpo basketball (both programs)



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Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on March 10, 2023, 08:22:31 AM
I watched the game. Ugh! Interestingly enough, both our men's and women's teams lost two extremely close regular season games to a team that blew them out in the first round of tournament play.  Why? Because their coaches coach, made adjustments learned and their team actually implemented those changes to exploit our obvious weaknesses. Out rebounded by 15, limited our three point opportunities etc. etc.

Evans at least can point to a very young team with some talent and a little size arriving from recruits.  I think one more year for her unless she had a five year deal that just ended.  Then a serious discussion needs to be had.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on March 10, 2023, 10:43:23 AM
Quote from: vu72 on March 10, 2023, 08:22:31 AM
I watched the game. Ugh! Interestingly enough, both our men's and women's teams lost two extremely close regular season games to a team that blew them out in the first round of tournament play.  Why? Because their coaches coach, made adjustments learned and their team actually implemented those changes to exploit our obvious weaknesses. Out rebounded by 15, limited our three point opportunities etc. etc.

Evans at least can point to a very young team with some talent and a little size arriving from recruits.  I think one more year for her unless she had a five year deal that just ended.  Then a serious discussion needs to be had.
At least two games this year with 0 offensive rebounds which is unheard of. We really aren't young as we played 3 seniors and 4 junior's significant minutes.  Brown didn't go thru senior night indicating she could be back. Sadly adding wings that are 5-11 and 6-0 is our definition of adding size.
The last 3 seasons are at Dorow level and that is scary.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on April 14, 2023, 09:32:21 AM
PO mentioned that Ali Saunders might/was transferring. Is this true. If so that is a major loss
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valporun on May 06, 2023, 12:05:40 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 14, 2023, 09:32:21 AM
PO mentioned that Ali Saunders might/was transferring. Is this true. If so that is a major loss

https://listentotheref.com/2023/05/05/ali-saunders-signs-with-usi-womens-basketball/

She officially signed with Southern Indiana. Announced yesterday.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on May 06, 2023, 06:49:49 AM
Quote from: valporun on May 06, 2023, 12:05:40 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 14, 2023, 09:32:21 AM
PO mentioned that Ali Saunders might/was transferring. Is this true. If so that is a major loss

https://listentotheref.com/2023/05/05/ali-saunders-signs-with-usi-womens-basketball/

She officially signed with Southern Indiana. Announced yesterday.

Ali was arguably our best player as a freshman. She led all freshman in the MVC in scoring and assists. This is a blow.

Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on May 06, 2023, 08:07:36 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on May 06, 2023, 06:49:49 AM
Quote from: valporun on May 06, 2023, 12:05:40 AM
Quote from: IndyValpo on April 14, 2023, 09:32:21 AM
PO mentioned that Ali Saunders might/was transferring. Is this true. If so that is a major loss

https://listentotheref.com/2023/05/05/ali-saunders-signs-with-usi-womens-basketball/

She officially signed with Southern Indiana. Announced yesterday.

Ali was arguably our best player as a freshman. She led all freshman in the MVC in scoring and assists. This is a blow.



The question is why?  She transfers down in conference where she was on the all freshman team.  A boy friend maybe?  Just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpo64 on May 06, 2023, 08:10:23 AM
Maybe because of our program/coaching??
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: VULB#62 on May 06, 2023, 09:40:48 AM
USI was 12-17 overall and 6-12 in the OVC.  Not much of a bump up. But they do play in a beautiful 4,800 seat arena.

It's also an hour and a half drive for mom and dad versus the 4½ journey to Valpo from Depauw, IN.   Louisville is even closer and D-I Bellarmine (33 miles), who is in the SoCon, is there. Interesting choice she made.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on May 08, 2023, 12:08:33 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 06, 2023, 09:40:48 AM
USI was 12-17 overall and 6-12 in the OVC.  Not much of a bump up. But they do play in a beautiful 4,800 seat arena.

It's also an hour and a half drive for mom and dad versus the 4½ journey to Valpo from Depauw, IN.   Louisville is even closer and D-I Bellarmine (33 miles), who is in the SoCon, is there. Interesting choice she made.


If you have ever driven Hwy 64 (not interstate) in southern Indiana it's like the location of Southern Utah. It's hidden in the hills and caves of a very rural area. Even Louisville can seem a long, long way away. Anyone know the Civil War significance of Depauw, Indiana?


Welcome to downtown Depauw, Indiana  [size=78%]4995 IN-64 - Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3360379,-86.2169328,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqgcj_yjIfoFkPt_F8F6XwQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)[/size]
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on May 08, 2023, 12:32:33 AM
Quote from: historyman on May 08, 2023, 12:08:33 AMAnyone know the Civil War significance of Depauw, Indiana?


Excerpt from John Hunt Morgan raid into Indiana

Morgan had sent spy Thomas Hines and a party of 25 Confederates, posing as a Union patrol, on a secret mission into Indiana in June to determine if the local Copperheads would support or join Morgan's impending raid. After visiting the local Copperhead leader, Dr. William A. Bowles, Hines learned that no desired support would be forthcoming. He and his scouts were soon identified as actually being Confederates, and, in a small skirmish near Leavenworth, Indiana, Hines had to abandon his men as he swam across the Ohio River under gunfire. He wandered around Kentucky for a week seeking information on Morgan's whereabouts.

By now reduced to 1,800 men, Morgan's main column had arrived on the morning of July 8 at Brandenburg, Kentucky, a small town along the Ohio River, where Hines rejoined them. Here, the raiders seized two steamboats, the John B. McCombs and the Alice Dean. Morgan, against Bragg's strict orders,[4] transported his command across the river to Indiana, landing just east of Mauckport. A small company of Indiana home guards contested the crossing with an artillery piece, as did a riverboat carrying a six-pounder. Morgan chased off the local defenders, capturing a sizeable portion as well as their guns. After burning the Alice Dean and sending the John B. McCombs downriver with instructions not to pursue him, Morgan headed away from the river.

Governor Oliver P. Morton worked feverishly to organize Indiana's defense, calling for able-bodied men to take up arms and form militia companies. Thousands responded and organized themselves into companies and regiments. Col. Lewis Jordan took command of the 450 members of the Harrison County Home Guard (Sixth Regiment, Indiana Legion), consisting of poorly trained civilians with a motley collection of arms. His goal was to delay Morgan long enough for Union reinforcements to arrive.[5]

Maj. Gen. Ambrose Burnside, commander of the Department of the Ohio with headquarters in Cincinnati, quickly organized local Federal troops and home militia to cut off Morgan's routes back to the South. Morgan headed northward on Mauckport Road, with another brother, Colonel Richard Morgan, leading the forward elements. On July 9, one mile (1.6 km) south of Corydon, Indiana, the county seat of Harrison County, his advance guard encountered Jordan's small force, drawn in a battle line behind a hastily thrown up barricade of logs. The colonel attacked, and in a short but spirited battle of less than an hour, he simultaneously outflanked both Union wings, completely routing the hapless militia. Accounts vary as to the number of casualties of the Battle of Corydon, but the most reliable evidence suggests that 4 of Jordan's men were killed, 10-12 were wounded, and 355 were captured. Morgan counted 11 dead and 40 wounded raiders. Among the dead Federals was the civilian toll keeper who perished near his tollgate. Raiders killed a Lutheran minister, Reverend Peter Glenn, on his farm, 4 miles (6 km) from the battlefield, and stole horses from several other farmers.


Peter Glenn, Civil War martyr, Lutheran minister and once pastor to the good Lutherans of Depauw, Indiana.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on May 08, 2023, 03:16:38 AM
The story of the killing of Pastor Peter Glenn (originally from Pennslyvania):


Rev. Mr. Glenn was the pastor of a Lutheran church at Corydon, Indiana. He was a strong union man but too old for service in the army. He resided in the country, not far from Corydon. His family consisted of his wife and children, among which were two full grown daughters. One evening just as they had eaten their supper, a number of soldiers on horseback made their appearance at the parsonage. One of the soldiers, quite gentlemanly in his appearance, came into the house and inquired whether they could give them something to eat? The pastor said, "Yes certainly, if there are not too many of you." "Well there are only ten of us, and we are very hungry." The women commenced getting the supper. The ten men, who consisted of the the rebel, Col. Morgan and his staff, then came into the house, and each man had his liquor in his canteen--and they took pretty heavy drafts, so that by the time the supper was ready they were all pretty well intoxicated. Of course Mr. Glenn did not know who his obstreperous guests were. At the supper table the wife and daughters were most grossly insulted by those men. Mr. Glenn could bear it no longer and began to remonstrate with the men for the rudeness. But they only laughed at him, and said, "Old fellow, you evidently don't know who we are, or you would not talk so to us." "Well I supposed you were gentlemen, and would respect the rights of hospitality, and in the presence of ladies so as not to act so rudely." Morgan replied, "To hell with your preaching!" and drawing his revolver he said, "Now, old fellow, you had better shut up, or you will get yourself riddled." At that moment, Mr. Glenn arose, perhaps to leave the room, and one of the men cried out, "Shoot him!" Morgan fired, and the pastor fell with a bullet in his brains. As soon as the family saw this they fled and hid themselves in a thicket not far from the house, and thus escaped the brutality of those infamous rebels. [size=inherit][7] (https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Glenn-1735#_note-6)[/size]


There is a memorial to Peter Glenn at Jordan Cemetery, Corydon, Indiana
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: vu72 on May 08, 2023, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: historyman on May 08, 2023, 12:08:33 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 06, 2023, 09:40:48 AM
USI was 12-17 overall and 6-12 in the OVC.  Not much of a bump up. But they do play in a beautiful 4,800 seat arena.

It's also an hour and a half drive for mom and dad versus the 4½ journey to Valpo from Depauw, IN.   Louisville is even closer and D-I Bellarmine (33 miles), who is in the SoCon, is there. Interesting choice she made.

Thank you historyman! Is Depauw, IN the same Depauw where Depauw University is located? Fascinating, and the type of post one could only find on the Valpo Fan Forum!


If you have ever driven Hwy 64 (not interstate) in southern Indiana it's like the location of Southern Utah. It's hidden in the hills and caves of a very rural area. Even Louisville can seem a long, long way away. Anyone know the Civil War significance of Depauw, Indiana?


Welcome to downtown Depauw, Indiana  [size=78%]4995 IN-64 - Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/@38.3360379,-86.2169328,3a,75y,270h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqgcj_yjIfoFkPt_F8F6XwQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192)[/size]
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: humbleopinion on May 08, 2023, 08:20:56 AM
Quote from: vu72 on May 08, 2023, 07:57:22 AMThank you historyman! Is Depauw, IN the same Depauw where Depauw University is located

Depauw College is in Greencastle in west-central Indiana.
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on May 08, 2023, 12:39:18 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on May 08, 2023, 08:20:56 AM
Quote from: vu72 on May 08, 2023, 07:57:22 AMThank you historyman! Is Depauw, IN the same Depauw where Depauw University is located

Depauw College is in Greencastle in west-central Indiana.


Correct.

Greencastle also has a large Walmart Distribution Center.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Greencastle,+IN+46135/@39.6414821,-86.859825,15z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x886cde6645cc11f1:0x72c9b6ec3c67b71a!8m2!3d39.6444898!4d-86.8647316!16zL20vMHNwbms
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: valpotx on May 08, 2023, 08:14:51 PM
Harkens back to when we lost a stud-ette in Mallory Ladd to Evansville, after her solid FR year
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: historyman on May 09, 2023, 04:39:33 AM
Quote from: historyman on May 08, 2023, 12:39:18 PM
Quote from: humbleopinion on May 08, 2023, 08:20:56 AM
Quote from: vu72 on May 08, 2023, 07:57:22 AMThank you historyman! Is Depauw, IN the same Depauw where Depauw University is located

Depauw College is in Greencastle in west-central Indiana.


Correct.

Greencastle also has a large Walmart Distribution Center.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Greencastle,+IN+46135/@39.6414821,-86.859825,15z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x886cde6645cc11f1:0x72c9b6ec3c67b71a!8m2!3d39.6444898!4d-86.8647316!16zL20vMHNwbms (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Greencastle,+IN+46135/@39.6414821,-86.859825,15z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x886cde6645cc11f1:0x72c9b6ec3c67b71a!8m2!3d39.6444898!4d-86.8647316!16zL20vMHNwbms)


Interesting..........................................................DePauw University Tigers............................................Greencastle IN HS Tiger Cubs

https://greencastleathletics.com/ (https://greencastleathletics.com/)

https://depauw.prestosports.com/landing/index (https://depauw.prestosports.com/landing/index)
Title: Re: Women's Basketball 2022-2023
Post by: IndyValpo on May 25, 2023, 04:16:16 PM
Jessica Carrothers who was Miss Basketball runner-up last year from Crown Point. Committed to IUPUI she followed the coach to Butler. Beat out Shay Fredrick to start at PG, was Big East all freshman team.

She transferred to IUNW. Does anyone know if we tried to get her.