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Greg Tonagel

Started by tiny707, December 21, 2018, 08:50:36 AM

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M

Maybe, maybe not...maybe start a new thread with potential replacements instead of a thread for every assistant and NAIA coach we come across.

tiny707

Maybe not, Greg needs his own thread. Too much history.

GoldenCrusader87

I stand by my comments here on this thread.

usc4valpo

No. Division 1 is a different situation. I think the legendary Dale Carlson came from NAIA with great qualifications.

bigmosmithfan1

No, no, no. If Greg wants the job, he can interview and beat out the top contenders from the national search. No more simply handing the program down to the next guy based on connections/religion/etc. We've hit our limitations on that.

VU2014

#55
Honestly I'd be willing to give Tonagel a shot at this point, even though I don't think he's the best choice. I think he's an excellent coach but maybe not a perfect culture fit for reason I've stated in other threads. For the record I do think NAIA coaches can make this leap from a x's and o's and development standpoint but it would be a huge risk from a recruiting stand point.

VUGrad1314

I don't care where the next coach comes from... I just want to win and feel like I cheer for a strong program again.

tiny707

This guy just keeps winning...

GoldenCrusader87

I've said it before and I'll say it again - Hire Tonagel!!! It would certainly be a pay bump for him and there's incentive from being an alumni

tiny707

Has the best college player in the state of Indiana...

oklahomamick

There are a number of good candidates.  Bryce is not coaching, Powell, Tonagel, Deibler, Nunez. 

I also think it's important that we have assistants who stay.  That has been a revolving door the last 3 years. 

This is not Matt's fault.  Just wasn't ready. 
CRUSADERS!!!

tiny707

2020 Crossroads League Champions. That is 11 out of 15 years...

VUGrad1314

#62
Posting for informational purposes only in no way is this an endorsement of firing Lottich and hiring Tonagel but he is about to cruise to another crossroads league championship. His IWU Wildcats are up by more than 20 points and are less than two minutes away from another Title.


GoldenCrusader87

Let's go Coach Tonagel!!!!!

tiny707


VU2014

#65
Quote from: tiny707 on December 02, 2020, 12:03:01 PM
9-0 so far......

Lottich just got a contract extension. For better or worse he is here to stay. This thread needs to take pause for a while.

AlaskaCrusader19

Tonagel is an excellent coach. He recruited the best player in the NAIA (Kyle Mangas from Warsaw) and puts tons of talent around him. I don't know how the NAIA to D1 jump would be, however. That's a massive step up.

tiny707

Now 16-0 since last post...

tiny707


VU2014

Quote from: tiny707 on January 17, 2021, 02:37:10 PM
19-1 record now...



Yes, he's a good coach. But it's apples and oranges. NAIA coaches can make the transition (old Green Bay coach (after Wardle) did it I believe).

From my understanding Tonagel consistently recruits the best at that level. But recruiting D1 athletes is just different. Maybe Tonagel would work I don't know, but I stated my concerns in the past. Lottich isn't going anywhere

valpotx

Quote from: VU2014 on January 17, 2021, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on January 17, 2021, 02:37:10 PM
19-1 record now...



Yes, he's a good coach. But it's apples and oranges. NAIA coaches can make the transition (old Green Bay coach (after Wardle) did it I believe).

From my understanding Tonagel consistently recruits the best at that level. But recruiting D1 athletes is just different. Maybe Tonagel would work I don't know, but I stated my concerns in the past. Lottich isn't going anywhere

Linc Darner went to GB from Florida Southern, after winning an NCAA D-2 national championship.
"Don't mess with Texas"

valpo64


And where is Linc Darner now?

bbtds

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Quote from: valpo64 on January 19, 2021, 11:30:47 AM

And where is Linc Darner now?

My guess is sitting at home during the pandemic spending his settlement

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/college/uwgb/2020/05/29/fired-uwgb-basketball-coach-linc-darner-guaranteed-least-720-000-settlement/5285514002/

According to the agreement obtained Friday through an open records request, Darner was paid $120,000 on May 21 and will receive $120,000 on the first business day in January.

Darner also will receive monthly payments of $20,000 from May 1, 2021, through April 1, 2023.

If Darner has not landed a head coaching or assistant job before that time — he agreed to make a reasonable and diligent effort to do so — he will receive an additional $20,000 per month beginning May 1, 2023, and going through April 1, 2024.

VU2014

Quote from: bbtds on January 19, 2021, 08:32:27 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on January 19, 2021, 11:30:47 AM

And where is Linc Darner now?

My guess is sitting at home during the pandemic spending his settlement

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/college/uwgb/2020/05/29/fired-uwgb-basketball-coach-linc-darner-guaranteed-least-720-000-settlement/5285514002/

According to the agreement obtained Friday through an open records request, Darner was paid $120,000 on May 21 and will receive $120,000 on the first business day in January.

Darner also will receive monthly payments of $20,000 from May 1, 2021, through April 1, 2023.

If Darner has not landed a head coaching or assistant job before that time — he agreed to make a reasonable and diligent effort to do so — he will receive an additional $20,000 per month beginning May 1, 2023, and going through April 1, 2024.


That is one solid buyout for a first time D1 coach. But these buyout could be punitive if there is no out clause. I can begin to know what is in the contract language for Lottich's deal but I'm guessing he's making more than Linc was being in the MVC and he's on his 2nd deal.

wh

Quote from: VU2014 on January 19, 2021, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: bbtds on January 19, 2021, 08:32:27 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on January 19, 2021, 11:30:47 AM

And where is Linc Darner now?

My guess is sitting at home during the pandemic spending his settlement

https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/sports/college/uwgb/2020/05/29/fired-uwgb-basketball-coach-linc-darner-guaranteed-least-720-000-settlement/5285514002/

According to the agreement obtained Friday through an open records request, Darner was paid $120,000 on May 21 and will receive $120,000 on the first business day in January.

Darner also will receive monthly payments of $20,000 from May 1, 2021, through April 1, 2023.

If Darner has not landed a head coaching or assistant job before that time — he agreed to make a reasonable and diligent effort to do so — he will receive an additional $20,000 per month beginning May 1, 2023, and going through April 1, 2024.


That is one solid buyout for a first time D1 coach. But these buyout could be punitive if there is no out clause. I can begin to know what is in the contract language for Lottich's deal but I'm guessing he's making more than Linc was being in the MVC and he's on his 2nd deal.

Since COVID: no 2020 NCAA tournament revenue sharing, no summer camps, no gate/concessions/parking package receipts, "temporary" elimination of non-revenue sports.  The university couldn't buy out the ARC janitor, let alone the men's basketball coach.