It's on to URI. Here's the URI game recap vs. American:
Rhode Island opened its season with a victory, but the 65-42 win over American came at a cost Friday night, as E.C. Matthews went down in the first half with an apparent knee injury.
As he spun and drove to the basket midway through the first half, Matthews went to the floor and grabbed his knee. He did not return to the game and will undergo testing to determine the extent of the injury.
Despite playing without Matthews, Rhody (1-0) built a 13-point lead by halftime, going into the break up 36-23. American (0-1) put up a fight in the second half, closing within 44-38 with 12:01 to go. Rhode Island responded with a 10-0 that effectively put the game away. The Rhody run featured a pair of 3-point shots by Four McGlynn and baskets from Hassan Martin and Jared Terrell.
Inside the Box Score
Rhode Island showed it can score in transition, getting 14 fast break points. On the other end, the Rams did not allow American any fast break buckets.
Rhode Island's bench gave the Rams a big advantage, outscoring their American counterparts, 24-4.
The Rams turned 17 American turnovers into 25 points.
Four McGlynn led a trio of Rams in double figures, scoring 15 points. Jared Terrell added 14 points, and Hassan Martin had 10 points.
Kuran Iverson and Jarvis Garrett combined for 17 points and 12 rebounds, grabbing six boards apiece.
Rhode Island was tremendous from the floor, making 24-of-46 (52.2 percent) shots. Defensively, the Rams held American to just 34.8 percent from the field, including 2-of-14 (14.3 percent) from beyond the arc.
Stat of the Game
4 – Guard Four McGlynn had all four of Rhode Island's 3-point baskets on the night.
Anyone going to the game?? I'm gonna make the 3 hour drive tonight! Excited to see them play as I haven't been able to since I moved to VT!
I may be going to the game. Am busy in northeast handling some other issues and might drive over tonight or tomorrow morning.
Nice..Tickets aren't to bad...$36 for a decent seat behind the Valpo bench...I wonder if the VU ticket office got any tickets? I'm guessing no but maybe I should call....
His name is Four?! George Costanza would be so proud!
American was picked fourth in the Patriot League by Lindy's.
Quote from: HC on November 16, 2015, 07:57:58 AMHis name is Four?! George Costanza would be so proud!
and apparently someone to watch for...
http://www.onebidwonders.com/2015/03/11/four-mcglynn-reportedly-leave-towson-basketball/ (http://www.onebidwonders.com/2015/03/11/four-mcglynn-reportedly-leave-towson-basketball/)
URI message board game thread:
http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361&start=0 (http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361&start=0)
Quote from: wh on November 16, 2015, 10:56:48 AM
URI message board game thread:
http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361&start=0 (http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361&start=0)
Thanks WH. Very active and informed board. They know a lot about us and their comments are player-specific -- like
EVN playing yesterday and giving us a big guard for them to worry about. They've already set up a matchup: "Without diminishing the impact on the final outcome that Hassan Martin will likely have when URI meets Valpo on Tuesday morning,
the matchup between Alec Peters (6-9 230) and Kuran Iverson (6-9 215) will likely be the game within the game.
There is a lot of talk about numerous bloody mary's and tailgating. BTW The arena (seats 7,800) http://www.theryancenter.com/about_ryan_center.aspx?un=1 (http://www.theryancenter.com/about_ryan_center.aspx?un=1) is built to intimidate. Three tiers and close in. Great basketball venue worth at least 6 points coming out of the chute. We'll have our hands full.
I think we bring our high FT shooting, high rebounding, low TO, and low fouls team to RI, and come out with a win!
Valpo 70
URI 68
This is a great game for us to play (despite the insanely hour). The atmosphere will be intense and loud. The fans are right on top of the court and the student section is more than just a couple of hundred. It's kind of like the reverse of a good team coming into a packed ARC with something on the line -- except bigger and possibly more hostile. If we can win in a place like this, we will do well in all of our games. We have to make the few FTs we are awarded (it is an away game after all ::) ) and play at our pace blocking out the crowd and distractions.
In their first game they shot 30.8% from the 3 and made 13 of 31 FTs! :o
They are not terribly big, most likely starting 6'7", 6'9", 6'0", 6'3" and 6'2" with a 6'4" and two 6'7"s off the bench. The 6'9" guy only weighs 210# and their 6'0" kid weighs in at 170#.
Their starting five will mostly likely be Martin, Iverson, Garrett, Terrell and McGlynn. McGlynn made 4 3s in their only game and no one else made a single three. I like the matchups.
The spread has moved from URI -1.5 to Even.
When we start a 6-10, 6-9 and then 3 guards, 6-1, 6-2 and 6-3 were not 'that' big either. BUT off the bench come G/F 6-8 EVN, G 6-7 Shane, F 6-8 David and F 6-7 Jubril. I mean we just keep coming at teams with great combinations of size, speed and athleticism. Who cares who starts (except for Vashil and Alec, of course, heh, heh). In the URI preview video, Bryce said Vashil was responsible for 20 points in the swing of the Iona game with his blocks (7) and redirects.
ESPN
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 16, 2015, 03:37:40 PM
ESPN
Has the game been moved up to ESPN, as I thought it was on ESPN2?
Bryce's comments about URI:
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=TYjRFvoE65M#)
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 16, 2015, 02:56:36 PM
When we start a 6-10, 6-9 and then 3 guards, 6-1, 6-2 and 6-3 were not 'that' big either. BUT off the bench come G/F 6-8 EVN, G 6-7 Shane, F 6-8 David and F 6-7 Jubril. I mean we just keep coming at teams with great combinations of size, speed and athleticism. Who cares who starts (except for Vashil and Alec, of course, heh, heh). In the URI preview video, Bryce said Vashil was responsible for 20 points in the swing of the Iona game with his blocks (7) and redirects.
The difference is in the weight and muscle. Vashil is 260#! Their guards are 170#, 220#180#. their 6'9" guy is 210#, Alec is 230#. You are of course correct about how we can keep running guys at them. When our guards are 6'8" and 6'7" they will have to try to out run us. Should be a great contrast in styles.
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 16, 2015, 02:56:36 PM
When we start a 6-10, 6-9 and then 3 guards, 6-1, 6-2 and 6-3 were not 'that' big either. BUT off the bench come G/F 6-8 EVN, G 6-7 Shane, F 6-8 David and F 6-7 Jubril. I mean we just keep coming at teams with great combinations of size, speed and athleticism. Who cares who starts (except for Vashil and Alec, of course, heh, heh). In the URI preview video, Bryce said Vashil was responsible for 20 points in the swing of the Iona game with his blocks (7) and redirects.
I'm afraid to make score predictions lest I come off as an overzealous fan, but I feel like we're looking at a kind of Valpo team that we've never seen before. For the first time, they don't seem quite as "mid-majory". They are not undersized and dependent upon hot outside shooting nor big but slow. Combined with the rare situation of being a Tourney team returning intact, they have the potential to dominate like they haven't before. They have high-major physical attributes and depth with the kind of experience only found in the mid-major ranks where 4-year players are more common. I think they are going to surprise people (not by winning games, as that's already expected) by some unexpected scoring margins.
URI's Ryan Center Exterior
(http://us1.eventbooking.com/media/94846_RyanCenter1.jpg)
URI's Ryan Center Interior
(http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/2015-16/photos/t4z5vi2rk81iwhpl.jpg?max_width=1082&max_height=665)
Looks nice!
Paul Oren points out on twitter that it's pretty rare that we've been RV and played another time RV (or ranked) in the regular season.
With Oregon we'll have a chance to knock off a top 25 team for the first time since Bryce wore a VU jersey. Iona and Rhode Island are both other examples of RV teams this season (Rhode Island hangs on to five points in the AP this week).
Before that... maybe it was Cleveland State in 2011.
Maybe... never before that?
Did we ever get votes in the national polls before 2011? (Apart from our 98 post-season ranking.) For the coaches' poll I don't have easily summarizable data before 2009-10.
Poring through the valpoathletics.com archives, I find the claim in 2011, "Valpo last made an appearance in one of the national polls in March of 2002, accumulating five points in the last poll prior to the NCAA Tournament that season." Not sure before then.
Toldja it was a great venue :) it would be great if Valpo could replicate even a fraction of that in the next ARC renovation.
Quote from: RF1 on November 16, 2015, 04:25:52 PM
URI's Ryan Center Exterior
(http://us1.eventbooking.com/media/94846_RyanCenter1.jpg)
URI's Ryan Center Interior
(http://www.gorhody.com/sports/m-baskbl/2015-16/photos/t4z5vi2rk81iwhpl.jpg?max_width=1082&max_height=665)
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 16, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
Toldja it was a great venue :) it would be great if Valpo could replicate even a fraction of that in the next ARC renovation.
Let's fill the ARC a few times and we'll talk. A couple of road wins and maybe a national ranking would help.
(Does SportsCenter even -do- a top 10 any more? I barely recognized the format looking for Evic Sunday night.)
Quote from: vu72 on November 16, 2015, 08:16:07 AM
American was picked fourth in the Patriot League by Lindy's.
I believe that should be
University of the U.S.
American is "problematic." This is because "North Americans often use 'American' which usually, depending on the context, fails to recognize South America."
Quote from: bbtds on November 16, 2015, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: vu72 on November 16, 2015, 08:16:07 AM
American was picked fourth in the Patriot League by Lindy's.
I believe that should be University of the U.S.
American is "problematic." This is because "North Americans often use 'American' which usually, depending on the context, fails to recognize South America."
Perhaps. Tell it to their 10,000 students!
http://www.american.edu/ (http://www.american.edu/)
What's become of the "of America" part of USA? Right there we have the basis for being Americans.
So there !
Pffft!
I'm told Skara is not on the trip. I have nothing to confirm this...but I also have no reason to doubt the source.
REVENGE!!
NBA scouts are going to become a theme:
From Twitter:
Bill Koch @BillKoch25 3 minutes ago
Scouts from the Mavs, Cavs, Clippers, Celtics, Spurs, Nuggets, Pacers, Jazz and Nets all scheduled to attend #URI-Valparaiso today. #Rams
Twitter doesn't say anything about Skara, but I don't question him sitting this one out.
Ended up having something come up and could not drive over to the game. While I would have loved to go there, what came up is pretty great.
I think that this is a tough close game and that it will come down to both teams trying to find enough options on offense due to the good defensive play. One of the Walkers steps up and scores 16+ and Valpo wins a tough game. Valpo 73 URI 68
I was wondering if schools that play a weekday morning game like this let their students out of classes. My guess is that most schools would leave it to the discretion of the professor.
Per @ValpoBasketball on Twitter, Skara stayed home.
The cancelling of classes was the subject a lot of discussion on the URI board but nothing definitive came of it.
Geez, I hope he's okay for the Oregon trip. We could really use his size.
Started off strong, now in a scoring drought at the 12 minute mark. Rhode Island made a run once we subbed. Vashil has done well to alter shots and stay out of foul trouble. He's going to have to play a lot of minutes.
We should be up by at least 14 instead of only 4. We have missed tons of point blank shots.
They attack the rim every time Vashil is on the bench.
Not surprising both teams are struggling to score at 10am.
It's interesting cause it's all just slightly off. Definitely attributing it to the quick travel and early time. Both teams seem sluggish and slightly delayed
stuck on 14 for awhile. Not much playing time for E. Victor.
Can't keep missing open shots and layups when they're few and far between.
Quote from: vu72 on November 16, 2015, 02:36:17 PM
In their first game they shot 30.8% from the 3 and made 13 of 31 FTs! :o
They are not terribly big, most likely starting 6'7", 6'9", 6'0", 6'3" and 6'2" with a 6'4" and two 6'7"s off the bench. The 6'9" guy only weighs 210# and their 6'0" kid weighs in at 170#.
Their starting five will mostly likely be Martin, Iverson, Garrett, Terrell and McGlynn. McGlynn made 4 3s in their only game and no one else made a single three. I like the matchups.
No way their roster numbers are correct. These RI guys look every bit as big as our boys.
hopefully they review that 3....it was a two. How long have we been stuck on 14?
6-27 are you kidding me??
Best defensive half in years. Worst offensive half in years.
Quote from: FWalum on November 17, 2015, 09:46:24 AM
Quote from: vu72 on November 16, 2015, 02:36:17 PM
In their first game they shot 30.8% from the 3 and made 13 of 31 FTs! :o
They are not terribly big, most likely starting 6'7", 6'9", 6'0", 6'3" and 6'2" with a 6'4" and two 6'7"s off the bench. The 6'9" guy only weighs 210# and their 6'0" kid weighs in at 170#.
Their starting five will mostly likely be Martin, Iverson, Garrett, Terrell and McGlynn. McGlynn made 4 3s in their only game and no one else made a single three. I like the matchups.
No way their roster numbers are correct. These RI guys look every bit as big as our boys.
Maybe this shows that Rhody is just being truly honest about their players' heights and not using the usual exaggeration that teams do about their players' dimensions.
They should talk about URI, Belmont, Valpo, UC Irvine, etc during the half time of the Kentucky Duke game tonight.
Quote from: wh on November 17, 2015, 09:54:15 AMBest defensive half in years. Worst offensive half in years.
I think we have taken a better selection of shots than RI but you have to hit some of them. Vashil seems to have his sophomore hands back.
Tevonn is 4-6. The rest 2-24. Hopefully, Tevonn is on the floor the entire 2nd half. He's the only player that looks composed on offense.
Much better effort offensively. But much worse effort defensively.
Still up 5, but need to start finishing!
This is about as bad as I see our guys playing on offense. And they are up 3 on the road against an A 10 team. Hope they find a way to seal the deal.
Dan Hurley is trying to do too much to manipulate the officials. He has a talented team. He should be coaching the players on the floor, not trying to get the officials to call the game so that Valpo is taken out of it that way. 46-39 Valpo, and we're holding up well, considering the scoring drought in the first half, and Vashil getting called for tough fouls under the basket.
Quote from: valporun on November 17, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Dan Hurley is trying to do too much to manipulate the officials. He has a talented team. He should be coaching the players on the floor, not trying to get the officials to call the game so that Valpo is taken out of it that way. 46-39 Valpo, and we're holding up well, considering the scoring drought in the first half, and Vashil getting called for tough fouls under the basket.
Right, like wanting an intentional foul on the steal... Seems like he's slowing the game down and keeping his players frustrated.
If Vashil is going to pick up 4 fouls, I'd like to see them count--none of the illegal screen and reach stuff...put some guys on the floor and make them scared to drive the lane.
I nominate Dan Hurley for the most annoying crybaby coach award. :'(
Way too early to run clock.
Is this guy clutch or what
By the hair of their chins...whew!
Wow!
Does this count as a win against a "big team"? Or maybe we have to beat Northwestern in closed door scrimmage first.
I have never had this much Adrenalin in me at 10:30 am before. Pheew!
There towards the end I was really struggling to not start yelling at work. As ugly a game as it was, I'm glad they never gave up and got out of there with a win.
phew! Way to close for comfort. Vashil played a great offensive game as well as blocking a few shots. Alec finally hit a 3 and made those clutch free throws. Crazy ending but I'll take the road win. RI will win some games. Now home for a game (?) tomorrow!
I would have fouled. Remember 1994 in Indy Bryce?
That's just me. The odds are better to foul in that situation.
I thought we should have fouled and put them on the line shooting two with 4-6 seconds.
Great inbound pass for us and found Alec with space so he couldn't get double teamed. Then he took care of business at the line.
We won a tight game against a good opponent on the road. Only time we trailed was 2-0. :thumbsup:
Mark of a solid team: winning the tough ones in their house. From where I sat we won it on D. Don't know if it was Rhody or our own tightness, but we missed a lot of easy lay ups, especially in the first half. Dodged a bullet in the last 9 seconds when we left their best 3 pt shooter totally open for not one but 2 shots as time ran out. It's an away win in a tough venue. We take it and move forward.
Quote from: oklahomamick on November 17, 2015, 11:24:06 AM
I thought we should have fouled and put them on the line shooting two with 4-6 seconds.
Great inbound pass for us and found Alec with space so he couldn't get double teamed. Then he took care of business at the line.
We won a tight game against a good opponent on the road. Only time we trailed was 2-0. :thumbsup:
Not entirely true. Traded leads with 2:06 to go in 1st half and went into the locker room down 2. Changed that quickly in the first few moments of the second half.
A win is a win is a win is a win. Don't care how, don't care by how many.
My biggest complaint is that my blood pressure and heart rate are up high enough that I probably won't be able to take my nap now...
Free throws and defense made up for some questionable decision making on the court. Really happy to win a tough, hard fought game on the road against a quality opponent. Love this team. On to the next one.
Good win on the road against a solid team. Didn't make any shots in the first half, but hung tough. Did not like slowing it down in the last 3 minutes, but the big three and the free throws by Peters bailed them out.
The announcers said several times that Valpo and Rhode Island had not played since 1998. That is not true (I think). I seem the remember Rhode Island playing at Valparaiso in 1999 or 2000. Rhode Island didn't score for the first 8 or 9 minutes, Valpo won big, and Jon Kedrowski went coast-to-coast at the end.
Thoughts:
Got away with a win on the road on a poor shooting night morning. That's big itself.
Speaking of which, I like tuning into basketball games in the AM. Reminds me of March. Say what you want about ESPN, but I hope this 24 hour marathon event has staying power.
Was hoping to listen to WVUR over the ESPN video livestream, but ESPN was about 30 seconds behind. Anyone else have the same problem?
Tevonn was clutch.
No injuries, which is good. Darien's rolled ankle looked nasty but glad he got back out there.
For once, we weren't the team leaving points at the FT line. We actually looked quite good in this aspect and that helped win us the game. URI lost it at the line.
This felt like a game where Skara would have come in and hit some big shots when we needed them (although URI could say the same thing about Matthews). Wishing a speedy recovery to that young man -- we need him back out there ASAP.
Taking the air out of the ball is not going to be as effective with a shorter shot clock. Our late game clock management wasn't great -- a few possessions we waited too long to do anything ended up with a shotclock violation or poor shot. Another possession wound up with a Vashil blocked dunk when we should have cleared it out to a guard.
We scored 18 points in the first half after going about 0-7 from 3 and shot what, 2 free throws? That should have told us something. Not saying we didn't make halftime adjustments (we sure did), but it oughtn't have taken us that long to fix things.
Oregon took it to Baylor. That trip out west is looking tougher. Fortunately we have a few tuneups left.
Great win!
In the first half both teams had trouble shooting the ball/played good defense. We came out well in the second half. If we play that well without Skara/smits/lexus, this will be a fun team to watch when everyone is healthy.
Yes, we beat Rhode Island twice between 1999-2002, I believe (1 home, 1 away).
We played great on defense, but were terrible on offense for much of the game. I understand that we were trying to establish Vashil down low in the first half, but we tried it too many times when he struggled to catch the ball. It was good to see that he did much better in the second half, as he was starting to look like the goat if we would have lost.
Glad that we got the win, it was ugly, and might have turned out differently had their star player been active. You can never say that URI would have beaten us if he played, as it would change the whole dynamic. I think that even with him, that Valpo is the better team.
Great win today. Road win. A-10 opponent. Internationally televised.
We played a home-home series with Rhode Island in 2000-01 and 2001-02 seasons. We won both -- at URI Dec 9, 2000 69-62 and in 2001 at the ARC winning 68-43. Those URI clubs were not very good. It was post-Harrick era. Lamar Odom was there in 98-99 and then he and Harrick left. That 2000-01 team was one of the best that didn't go to Tourney -- beat Ohio State in Alaska and lost to IU by 3. Lost to SoUtah in Mid-Con Finals. They deserved an NCAA or NIT bid. Think that was the year Milo got mono just before start of Mid-Con Tourney.
Quote from: vu84v2 on November 17, 2015, 08:16:48 AM
I was wondering if schools that play a weekday morning game like this let their students out of classes. My guess is that most schools would leave it to the discretion of the professor.
For student fans you're wondering, I assume, not student athletes?
As a prof and a fan I was pleased to have a relatively free schedule this morning. Only missed last ten minutes or so, and at least watches last possession.
If I had a class during the game, I might be willing to promise no quiz, and, if it was a rare thing, not frown on students who skip. It might be harder for classes where attendance/participation is formally a part of the grade (discussion-based, etc.).
Could be difficult come tourney time. I has the Michigan St. NCAA game playing on the video projector as we worked in lab, a few seasons back.
Quote from: a3uge on November 17, 2015, 11:13:13 AM
Does this count as a win against a "big team"? Or maybe we have to beat Northwestern in closed door scrimmage first.
Oregon.
Maybe URI -with- Matthews.
I'm delighted by the win, not easy by any means. But it'll take more than this to get national attention except as "trendy upset pick in March".
Big win, against a good team, on the road, on ESPN2, and at an odd time no less.
Both offenses looked slow and tired to start the game, reasonably so with the morning start time which was more like 9AM for the Crusaders. Nice to have these two "practice games" before the Oregon trip. This was a game Valpo usually loses in past years. RI hung in there and made it interesting in the end, if a few more shots would've fallen for Valpo the margin would've been closer to 10. Anyways, Valpo was the better team, and a win is a win, and a nice win against a team that may very well be back in the tourney come March.
3-0; not a bad way to start the season, against 3 quality teams no less.
Quote from: agibson on November 17, 2015, 12:47:30 PM
Quote from: a3uge on November 17, 2015, 11:13:13 AM
Does this count as a win against a "big team"? Or maybe we have to beat Northwestern in closed door scrimmage first.
Oregon.
Maybe URI -with- Matthews.
I'm delighted by the win, not easy by any means. But it'll take more than this to get national attention except as "trendy upset pick in March".
I realize URI != Oregon... this was more a factitious comment that pits games against against 3-15 B1G10/SEC teams as the gold standard of wins simply due to their conference affiliation and ignores games vs quality tournament-level teams like Murray State, Iona, Rhode Island, etc. North Florida beat Illinois this year and nobody cared. Valpo just beat Iona and Rhode Island? Maybe not the victory heard round the world, but definitely saw a bunch of tweets from national pundits and we've been on the ESPN highlight rotation for the past few hours. I just wish more people cared more about beating quality teams than beating teams like Nebraska and Missouri.
Most national pundits didn't go crazy over Illinois losing because Jon Groce hasn't been good for Illinois basketball. I expect he'll be fired after the season ends, because the new AD will bring in new head coaches for both revenue sports, unless the state of Illinois still doesn't have money to pay for a new coach for the revenue sports.
Quote from: a3uge on November 17, 2015, 01:16:56 PMMaybe not the victory heard round the world, but definitely saw a bunch of tweets from national pundits and we've been on the ESPN highlight rotation for the past few hours. I just wish more people cared more about beating quality teams than beating teams like Nebraska and Missouri.
I hear you. Glad to hear that we're making the highlights - being on "real" TV does make a difference for media attention.
Quote from: a3uge on November 17, 2015, 11:13:13 AMDoes this count as a win against a "big team"?
Just to make it clear that I like the win (and against Iona!), I wonder: when's the last time we had a non-conference win this big?
Murray State, in retrospect? Missouri State?
When's the last time we had two of similar caliber, or better, in one season?
It's looking like a pretty interesting season!
Quote from: valpo84 on November 17, 2015, 12:09:53 PM
Great win today. Road win. A-10 opponent. Internationally televised.
We played a home-home series with Rhode Island in 2000-01 and 2001-02 seasons. We won both -- at URI Dec 9, 2000 69-62 and in 2001 at the ARC winning 68-43. Those URI clubs were not very good. It was post-Harrick era. Lamar Odom was there in 98-99 and then he and Harrick left. That 2000-01 team was one of the best that didn't go to Tourney -- beat Ohio State in Alaska and lost to IU by 3. Lost to SoUtah in Mid-Con Finals. They deserved an NCAA or NIT bid. Think that was the year Milo got mono just before start of Mid-Con Tourney.
Not only was Milo out, but Kikas Gomes was out due to a leg injury as well.
Click a link, save a life (or at least enjoy yourself for two minutes)
http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/update-crusaders-pull-out-tough-win-at-rhode-island/article_c8283e66-97e8-56d6-a0e3-b94f9b948b2b.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/update-crusaders-pull-out-tough-win-at-rhode-island/article_c8283e66-97e8-56d6-a0e3-b94f9b948b2b.html)
I cannot wait until Valpo takes on Duckzilla. That will be the big evaluation.
Quote from: agibson on November 17, 2015, 02:02:12 PM
Quote from: a3uge on November 17, 2015, 11:13:13 AMDoes this count as a win against a "big team"?
Just to make it clear that I like the win (and against Iona!), I wonder: when's the last time we had a non-conference win this big?
Murray State, in retrospect? Missouri State?
When's the last time of similar caliber, or better, in one season?
It's looking like a pretty interesting season!
Sometimes games don't look that big and end up awesome or a good what-could-have-been (Murray State 2014, Butler 2012, Mercer 2013, SLU 2013)... and sometimes game that look huge end up not nearly as good, or rather insignificant (Missouri State 2010, New Mexico 2014). Hopefully URI wins the rest of their games ;D.
But from an RPI/rankings perspective, in terms of OOC wins, and specifically road wins, here are our OOC top 100 rpi wins since 2003 (can't find data much further):
11/17/15 A URI (??-?) RPI: ?? - crosses fingers
11/29/14 N Murray St. (25-5) RPI: 63
02/23/12 H EKU (22-9) RPI: 68
11/18/11 H Akron (21-11) RPI: 55
02/19/11 H Missouri State (25-8) RPI: 43
11/26/10 N Northern Colorado (19-10) RPI: 99
02/21/09 H Akron (22-12) RPI: 99
02/23/08 H Miami OH (17-16) RPI: 80 - lol @ the MAC rpi gaming
11/24/07 A Austin Peay (24-11) RPI: 81
12/11/04 A UW-Milwaukee (24-6) RPI: 20
So I think the win vs the Sweet 16 team on the road definitely takes the cake.
Quote from: usc4valpo on November 17, 2015, 02:28:31 PM
I cannot wait until Valpo takes on Duckzilla. That will be the big evaluation.
Whoa dude, are you trying to give IU Kokomo bulletin-board material?
http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361 (http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361)
URI's board: interesting read - was expecting a lot more self-loathing posts about how they couldn't beat a Horizon team at home. Instead, there's a lot of posts that praise Valpo and gave URI props for keeping it close in the first game without EC Matthews. Really hope URI makes the field now.
Need to cut back on the turnovers. Had too many against both Iona (16 - lazy defense) and Rhode Island (17 - aggressive defense). With our experience, I would like to see that number at 10 or less every game, even against tough defenses. Honestly, we could have gotten close to that today just by getting rid of the unforced errors.
Otherwise, good road win. Winning on the road is always hard, even when the home team is without their star player.
Apparently attendance for the game was close to 4900, with only a couple hundred URI students at the game. Those on the URI fan board were very critical of the lack of support for a game against a quality opponent, televised on ESPN2.
This makes the attendance for our Sunday afternoon game against Iona -- around 2700 I think? -- not so bad in comparison.
Paul
Quote from: a3uge on November 17, 2015, 04:22:01 PM
http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361 (http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361)
URI's board: interesting read - was expecting a lot more self-loathing posts about how they couldn't beat a Horizon team at home. Instead, there's a lot of posts that praise Valpo and gave URI props for keeping it close in the first game without EC Matthews. Really hope URI makes the field now.
No filters on the posters that's for sure -- lost count of F-Bombs after the first page ::). But we got our respect and they noticed that we weren't playing well either but still controlled the game with our D even though we had an 8 minute scoring drought.
Quote from: a3uge on November 17, 2015, 04:22:01 PM
http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361 (http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361)
URI's board: interesting read - was expecting a lot more self-loathing posts about how they couldn't beat a Horizon team at home. Instead, there's a lot of posts that praise Valpo and gave URI props for keeping it close in the first game without EC Matthews. Really hope URI makes the field now.
I thought the same thing. Here's a nice comment about Vashil:
--Fernandez is a beast. Dominated the paint for Valpo. Hassan held his own, but took too many outside shots as a result of having a tough time against Fernandez down low.
Quote from: a3uge on November 17, 2015, 04:22:01 PMhttp://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361 (http://keaneyblue.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5361) URI's board: interesting read - was expecting a lot more self-loathing posts about how they couldn't beat a Horizon team at home. Instead, there's a lot of posts that praise Valpo and gave URI props for keeping it close in the first game without EC Matthews. Really hope URI makes the field now.
One of those odd games where both fan bases are reasonably satisfied with the outcome. Some griping on their board over FTs, etc. but usually fan reactions are a zero sum game.
The Iona game, for example. Our pleasure with the result was equally matched by the Iona fans' frustration.
Quote from: Valpower on November 17, 2015, 02:52:47 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on November 17, 2015, 02:28:31 PM
I cannot wait until Valpo takes on Duckzilla. That will be the big evaluation.
Whoa dude, are you trying to give IU Kokomo bulletin-board material?
Do you really think it matters if IU-Kokomo has bulletin-board material?
They are 0-3 and have lost to Judson College, IU-Northwest (Gary) and Calumet College of St Joseph!
Valpower, I think you should have left in the ;)
Quote from: vu72 on November 16, 2015, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 16, 2015, 08:46:32 PM
Quote from: vu72 on November 16, 2015, 08:16:07 AM
American was picked fourth in the Patriot League by Lindy's.
I believe that should be University of the U.S.
American is "problematic." This is because "North Americans often use 'American' which usually, depending on the context, fails to recognize South America."
Perhaps. Tell it to their 10,000 students!
http://www.american.edu/ (http://www.american.edu/)
I guess nobody read wh's post with the story on the UNH president except VULB#62.
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gabrielle-cintorino/university-president-offended-bias-free-language-guide-deems (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gabrielle-cintorino/university-president-offended-bias-free-language-guide-deems)
It also determines that use of the term "American" is "problematic", and notes that the preferred term is "'U.S. citizen or resident of the U.S.'" This is because "North Americans often use 'American' which usually, depending on the context, fails to recognize South America."
Another stated reason for the abolishment of the term "American" is that it "assumes the U.S. is the only country inside these continents," according to the guide.
Is it my imagination or judging from the tv coverage and stills, does Alec look like he has dropped his body fat %age? Looking at his face it is sculpted. Last year, his features were more rounded.
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 17, 2015, 09:20:57 PM
Is it my imagination or judging from the tv coverage and stills, does Alec look like he has dropped his body fat %age? Looking at his face it is sculpted. Last year, his features were more rounded.
Well he does have facial hair now...
Quote from: bbtds on November 17, 2015, 07:52:32 PMI guess nobody read wh's post with the story on the UNH president except VULB#62. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gabrielle-cintorino/university-president-offended-bias-free-language-guide-deems (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gabrielle-cintorino/university-president-offended-bias-free-language-guide-deems) It also determines that use of the term "American" is "problematic", and notes that the preferred term is "'U.S. citizen or resident of the U.S.'" This is because "North Americans often use 'American' which usually, depending on the context, fails to recognize South America." Another stated reason for the abolishment of the term "American" is that it "assumes the U.S. is the only country inside these continents," according to the guide.
I understand this argument, in principle, but it's "un-United-Statesian" to ban such usage of an expression as old as the "United-Statesian Way" itself.
I'll counter an article with an article. I'm conservative, so I dug up a piece from a liberal writer at liberal Slate.com, which I agree with 100%.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/a_fine_whine/2013/08/america_the_continent_vs_america_the_country.html
Quote from: Donjon VU07 on November 18, 2015, 09:27:46 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 17, 2015, 07:52:32 PMI guess nobody read wh's post with the story on the UNH president except VULB#62. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gabrielle-cintorino/university-president-offended-bias-free-language-guide-deems (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gabrielle-cintorino/university-president-offended-bias-free-language-guide-deems) It also determines that use of the term "American" is "problematic", and notes that the preferred term is "'U.S. citizen or resident of the U.S.'" This is because "North Americans often use 'American' which usually, depending on the context, fails to recognize South America." Another stated reason for the abolishment of the term "American" is that it "assumes the U.S. is the only country inside these continents," according to the guide.
I understand this argument, in principle, but it's "un-United-Statesian" to ban such usage of an expression as old as the "United-Statesian Way" itself.
I'll counter an article with an article. I'm conservative, so I dug up a piece from a liberal writer at liberal Slate.com, which I agree with 100%.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/a_fine_whine/2013/08/america_the_continent_vs_america_the_country.html
And to be truthful it is Vespucci's first name, Amerigo that the name America comes from. Could you imagine if we were the United States of Vespuccia and called Vespuccians? It's also similar to saying that Europeans only refers to the people of the UK.
Quote from: bbtds on November 18, 2015, 06:35:39 PM
Quote from: Donjon VU07 on November 18, 2015, 09:27:46 AM
Quote from: bbtds on November 17, 2015, 07:52:32 PMI guess nobody read wh's post with the story on the UNH president except VULB#62. http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gabrielle-cintorino/university-president-offended-bias-free-language-guide-deems (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gabrielle-cintorino/university-president-offended-bias-free-language-guide-deems) It also determines that use of the term "American" is "problematic", and notes that the preferred term is "'U.S. citizen or resident of the U.S.'" This is because "North Americans often use 'American' which usually, depending on the context, fails to recognize South America." Another stated reason for the abolishment of the term "American" is that it "assumes the U.S. is the only country inside these continents," according to the guide.
I understand this argument, in principle, but it's "un-United-Statesian" to ban such usage of an expression as old as the "United-Statesian Way" itself.
I'll counter an article with an article. I'm conservative, so I dug up a piece from a liberal writer at liberal Slate.com, which I agree with 100%.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/a_fine_whine/2013/08/america_the_continent_vs_america_the_country.html
And to be truthful it is Vespucci's first name, Amerigo that the name America comes from. Could you imagine if we were the United States of Vespuccia and called Vespuccians? It's also similar to saying that Europeans only refers to the people of the UK.
Interesting. I would add that "Asian" as we tend to use it in Amer-- . . . the U.S. . . . rarely includes India or Russia, and never includes the Middle East.
Quote from: talksalot on November 16, 2015, 08:40:20 AMQuote from: HC on November 16, 2015, 07:57:58 AMHis name is Four?! George Costanza would be so proud!
and apparently someone to watch FOUR... http://www.onebidwonders.com/2015/03/11/four-mcglynn-reportedly-leave-towson-basketball/ (http://www.onebidwonders.com/2015/03/11/four-mcglynn-reportedly-leave-towson-basketball/)