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Title: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on April 29, 2022, 01:04:36 PM
We have a (unannounced as far as I know) DT coach Vernell Price who appears to be all over recruiting in the short time he has been here.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: NWIGuy on April 29, 2022, 02:12:43 PM
Strength coach job "flew" today. Need to get this done ASAP with summer approaching quickly...
https://valpo-openhire.silkroad.com/epostings/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.jobinfo&jobid=824&version=1 (https://valpo-openhire.silkroad.com/epostings/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.jobinfo&jobid=824&version=1)
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on May 01, 2022, 06:26:32 AM
Not a political post. But Valpo will have a hard time keeping anyone as cost of living rises. Work for free and pay to play.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on May 01, 2022, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on May 01, 2022, 06:26:32 AM
Not a political post. But Valpo will have a hard time keeping anyone as cost of living rises. Work for free and pay to play.


I don't see this as a political issue, either, but I offer a different take on this. If a sport does not generate significant revenues, then it's really more akin to an extracurricular activity, like working on student theatrical productions or the college newspaper. That's hardly "pay to play." Rather, it's more like being any other student and having the option to take part in campus activities. (Ideally, need-based grant monies help to soften the sticker price.)

Probably the main reason why we have FCS non-scholarship football is because the NCAA no longer permits DI schools to drop to D3 for football. In fact, it's fair to hypothesize that the overall quality of FCS non-scholarship football is largely equivalent to that of solid DIII football programs. I'd be surprised, for example, if many Pioneer League teams could beat a current version of Mount Union or Wisconsin-Whitewater. So, VU and similar football programs have to operate in this technically DI, but financially DIII environment.

Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on May 01, 2022, 05:43:15 PM
David81 I'm on same page. Really it is a misread by University and Athletics Department. Football is your largest alumni / donor pool, however the University does not recognize this. Many former players feel alienated by the University.

Instead they are funneling money into the Basketball team which provides maybe 1-2 four year seniors with the transfer portal.

So over the course of 4 years your trading in 100 potential donors for 6-8. Not great, especially with Bball team struggling in the Valley.

But I digress
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: usc4valpo on May 02, 2022, 05:45:33 AM
16 - although generous, I doubt football alums are providing truly significant funds to the program that make a difference. Also, despite recent apathy to basketball at Valpo, football has no or very little following, partially because of poor performance over the past 2 decades.

Basketball will always be the flagship sport at Valpo and most funding needs to go to that program. Regarding football, even Padilla mentioned it is D3 level.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpo95 on May 02, 2022, 07:46:20 AM
Quote from: David81 on May 01, 2022, 11:35:08 AM

I don't see this as a political issue, either, but I offer a different take on this. If a sport does not generate significant revenues, then it's really more akin to an extracurricular activity, like working on student theatrical productions or the college newspaper. That's hardly "pay to play." Rather, it's more like being any other student and having the option to take part in campus activities. (Ideally, need-based grant monies help to soften the sticker price.)

Probably the main reason why we have FCS non-scholarship football is because the NCAA no longer permits DI schools to drop to D3 for football. In fact, it's fair to hypothesize that the overall quality of FCS non-scholarship football is largely equivalent to that of solid DIII football programs. I'd be surprised, for example, if many Pioneer League teams could beat a current version of Mount Union or Wisconsin-Whitewater. So, VU and similar football programs have to operate in this technically DI, but financially DIII environment.


We have an interesting and current case study happening right now. St. Thomas joined the PFL last year, tied for third at 6-2 in conference and 7-3 overall. Historically, the Tommies have been an excellent D-III program, losing twice in the Stagg Bowl to Mount Union over the last decade. Valpo lost to St. Thomas 20-13 in St. Paul last October, so I think it is fair to say that the levels are similar.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: VUSupport on September 02, 2022, 04:59:49 AM
Would love to see the % of football alums that have actually given back $$$ to the school or program. Just like Coach Fox, a lot of bark and no bite.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: historyman on September 04, 2022, 11:49:44 AM
Quote from: VUSupport on September 02, 2022, 04:59:49 AMa lot of bark and no bite.

I will testify that neither Beacon or Blazer (sp?) bit anyone except maybe the Valpo Alpo. Wow! I think I have entered the doghouse forever.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on September 26, 2022, 02:11:04 PM
Looks like Spencer Micklebury has joined the program from Western Ontario.

6'4. 270 OL. 2 star out of Colorado.

Probably will be announced for spring like Randall  and Mann.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on September 26, 2022, 04:07:26 PM
I believe Coach Fox said that there were 50 recruits at the game.  Pretty impressive game and atmosphere!
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 20, 2022, 10:13:42 AM
New Commit: Nick Beidl 5'10 190 Carmel HS , IN - RB

Other Offers: Morehead State

Team National Rank: 347

Commits:

RB: Beidl
OL: Thorgersen
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 22, 2022, 04:44:42 PM
Mason Kaplan has transferred to Illinois State
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on November 22, 2022, 05:36:13 PM
Good luck to Kaplan, I liked his style, he was good at finding his targets, good on the run, liked his unpredictable moves.  I get it, he's young and talented enough not to settle for 2nd.  This means Valpo may be facing off against him next season!  Won't that be interesting to watch.   :twocents:
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on November 23, 2022, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: soapyjeans on November 22, 2022, 05:36:13 PMGood luck to Kaplan, I liked his style, he was good at finding his targets, good on the run, liked his unpredictable moves.  I get it, he's young and talented enough not to settle for 2nd.  This means Valpo may be facing off against him next season!  Won't that be interesting to watch.   :twocents:
ISU has a junior and redshirt freshman who played this past season. The junior has started at Minnesota in the past. Assuming they both stay, it's likely Kaplan is assimilating to playing time over a couple of seasons....at best.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 23, 2022, 12:24:06 PM
JD24. A few things to unpack. Yes it looks like there is a RSFR in the mix already at ISU. They are short on QBs for spring , only two. Think this was an offer to come practice. I really doubt he plays meaningful snaps without injury for the Redbirds.

It was also odd how a concussion knocked him out for 4 weeks and the Monday after FCS finished regular season he is on a new roster. Think some poaching may have occured.

Rowan Keefe had more offers than Kaplan out of HS, he now is the assumed back up. Everything runs through Appel.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 23, 2022, 12:27:16 PM
DT Chase Randall has entered the Transfer Portal. Was beat out by a true freshman Logan Chastain. RSSO Trojanek is the back up.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpotx on November 23, 2022, 05:48:55 PM
How do you transfer in November?  Is he out all of those classes for this semester?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on November 23, 2022, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: valpotx on November 23, 2022, 05:48:55 PMHow do you transfer in November?  Is he out all of those classes for this semester?
I thought of that with Kaplan myself. Maybe he finishes the semester and then moves.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on November 24, 2022, 09:08:47 AM
And so it begins, argh.  That transfer portal can be bittersweet, hope we don't lose any of our talented players.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 26, 2022, 08:27:07 AM
#88 RSFR George Dristiliaris has entered the portal. Backed up Hafner to begin season. Molnar and Elmore began taking reps as season moved on
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 28, 2022, 11:25:55 AM
Starting LG Ryan Merklinger has entered the portal.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 28, 2022, 07:33:48 PM
#58 James Doerer is in transfer portal. ILB started vast majority of season. Lost spot to Birmingham.

That's 5/75 travel roster underclassmen. Some big blows
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 28, 2022, 07:44:06 PM
#88 Brian Hunter has entered the portal. WR played in 1 Game after big spring season.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 29, 2022, 08:59:48 AM
WR #15 RSFR Dom Grguric has entered the portal. 11 GP big on special teams.

Roster will look very different
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on November 29, 2022, 11:30:54 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 29, 2022, 08:59:48 AM
WR #15 RSFR Dom Grguric has entered the portal. 11 GP big on special teams.

Roster will look very different

valpo16, thanks to this board, I've learned a lot about how the transfer portal works in MBB, but I don't know as much about football.

Is this an unusual level of movement for a non-scholarship DI team? From a distance it seems like a lot of musical chairs going on, but that impression may be based on an old-time assumption that guys would stay at the same school to earn their degree, even if they didn't get the playing time they were hoping for. This is very different, yes?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on November 29, 2022, 11:43:00 AM
Two ways to take this.

1) A lot of guys are coming back for fifth years meaning guys like Doerer, Grguric , Randall, Hunter wouldn't see the PT they are after

Or

2) there is overall problems with the program itself. Certain guys make sense in the portal. A few have not so far.

I think Valpo is a transient school regardless of athletics. I am more worried about an inter conference head coach Vacancy than the portal.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on November 29, 2022, 11:49:35 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 29, 2022, 11:43:00 AM
Two ways to take this.

1) A lot of guys are coming back for fifth years meaning guys like Doerer, Grguric , Randall, Hunter wouldn't see the PT they are after

Or

2) there is overall problems with the program itself. Certain guys make sense in the portal. A few have not so far.

I think Valpo is a transient school regardless of athletics. I am more worried about an inter conference head coach Vacancy than the portal.

Thank you for your response!

So this all gets back to big-picture discussions occurring frequently here, i.e., how to build a winning tradition and continuity into a program that has not been successful from a W-L standpoint.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on November 29, 2022, 04:31:32 PM
With the ease Fox has had filling holes through the transfer portal, it shows that the transfer portal is definitely a two way street, isn't limited to Valpo and must be looked at from both vantage points.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 03, 2022, 07:07:23 AM
New commit: 6'7 327 OT Gabe Rosen Evanston HS, Illinois

Other Offers: N/A

HS Rank: 3100

Commits:
RB: Beidl
OL: Thorgesen, Rosen
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpotx on December 03, 2022, 12:32:55 PM
You can't teach size, but you also can't teach natural instincts, so hopefully he at least has some of those, as well!
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 04, 2022, 05:59:10 PM
QB Teryn Berry has entered the portal
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpotx on December 05, 2022, 02:21:19 AM
Not a surprise, so hopefully Appel stays at this point
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 05, 2022, 06:25:17 PM
#1 Keyon Turner has entered xfer portal. freshman All American had several personal fouls and benchings this season.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 05, 2022, 06:29:21 PM
#25 Jahni Clarke has entered the portal.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 06, 2022, 05:20:45 AM
Well, losing 2 WR off the bat like that is scary but not unexpected, its the ole, "use them or lose them" song.  The roster indeed will look very different if this is glimpse of others joining that transfer portal.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 06, 2022, 07:42:10 AM
FR CB #14 Anthony Hightower is in portal, was 3rd or 4th FR Cb.

Really interested on how you transfer from non scholarship with no playing time
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 06, 2022, 08:41:01 AM
Looks like majority of guys entering are doing it because of no playing time. 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 06, 2022, 11:56:35 AM
800 players in the FBS portal on day one. I imagine FCS is worse.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: VULB#62 on December 06, 2022, 12:53:36 PM
Quote from: JD24 on December 06, 2022, 11:56:35 AM
800 players in the FBS portal on day one. I imagine FCS is worse.

And if you listened to Dion Sanders' "pep talk" to his new Colorado players, 700 of those in the portal probably entered from CU.  ;)
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 06, 2022, 04:39:53 PM
#48 Jackson Dorr has entered portal. Means Matthes is back?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 08, 2022, 01:20:24 PM
Starting WR Matt Ross has entered portal as a grad Xfer.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 08, 2022, 04:24:26 PM
Reserve RSFR RB Andre Tarver has entered the portal
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 08, 2022, 05:49:23 PM
RSJR Jordan Bingham WR has entered portal as a grad xfer.

This makes Grguric/Ross transfers that much worse. 2018 vibes all around. Hopefully Fox isn't another domino. No word on Dayton job.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 08, 2022, 06:20:56 PM
That makes 4 WR Valpo is losing!   :o
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 08, 2022, 10:03:15 PM
KR Josh Becton has entered the transfer portal as a RSSO.

That's 5 wideouts gone
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 09, 2022, 09:19:57 AM
WR #15 RSFR Dom Grguric has committed to Bowling Green offer (FBS)
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on December 09, 2022, 10:32:46 AM
Remember folks, the transfer portal works two ways, those trying to play at a higher level and those seeking playing time/reps at a lower level... We'll be fine.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on December 09, 2022, 10:54:15 AM
Quote from: soapyjeans on December 09, 2022, 09:19:57 AM
WR #15 RSFR Dom Grguric has committed to Bowling Green offer (FBS)
If he snagged a scholarship good for him. I see he is 100% committed to BG. Just 2 years ago he was 100% committed to Valpo.
In the transfer portal world these guys need to find new ways to announce a commitment.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 09, 2022, 11:01:16 AM
Well maybe these transfer portal kids are discovering the difference between a rushing game program and a passing game program.  That would sorta explain Valpo losing so many WR, just guessing here though.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 09, 2022, 11:26:32 AM
That or Valpo didn't really sub receivers like the Cecchini days Davis / Ross / Contreras probably played 90% of the snaps.

2/3 appear to be coming back as of this second. Appel has a bright bright future make no mistake. Between Dawson/Washington talent was at RB.

Portal is a two way street and Valpo has brought in more talent than  lost last 3 years. Hard to get excited and watch player growth for guys to leave , which it will always be.

In terms of the commitment comment, I think it is just a generational deal, kids nowadays like offers and the likes that come with them then the work. If Grguric / Kaplan got school paid for that's great for them. If not , both have transferred into a lesser role (based off history) into a worse degree.

Which comes down to decision making, is it worth sacrificing your degree to be on a team in a bigger stadium with 4-8k more people at the game?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 09, 2022, 11:50:13 AM
Quote from: soapyjeans on December 09, 2022, 11:01:16 AMWell maybe these transfer portal kids are discovering the difference between a rushing game program and a passing game program.  That would sorta explain Valpo losing so many WR, just guessing here though.
Why would a team which ranked higher in passing yards, attempts and all that fun stuff than it did in rushing yards, attempts and all that fun stuff be losing WRs because someone thinks the program is not a passing offense?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 09, 2022, 06:39:38 PM
OL Gabe Watkins-Daigle RSFR and 3 year Starter WR Braden Contreras JR have entered the portal.

Valpo is approaching 1/4 of their roster in the portal from last season. Have to imagine this is now pointing to a larger problem with the Program/University. My belief is it is the latter.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 09, 2022, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on December 09, 2022, 06:39:38 PMOL Gabe Watkins-Daigle RSFR and 3 year Starter WR Braden Contreras JR have entered the portal. Valpo is approaching 1/4 of their roster in the portal from last season. Have to imagine this is now pointing to a larger problem with the Program/University. My belief is it is the latter.
Wagner has a boatload in there as well. Maybe it's a Lutheran thing.  :)
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on December 09, 2022, 10:38:14 PM
Given how many college players' transfer announcements and memes claim prayerful inspiration for their decisions, I'm assuming that God is especially busy looking over rosters and depth charts during each December and April. 🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 09, 2022, 11:12:31 PM
Well, considering all colleges are going thru the pros/cons of dealing with transfer portal players coming or going suggests this is just the way it is.  It may be a few years before that transfer portal calms down, lol. 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpotx on December 10, 2022, 03:26:12 AM
It's just this next generation and is what it is.  As someone above stated, they like the excitement of being wanted, but I can't fault them if Valpo's success has given them a platform to play at a higher level.  We're getting kids at an FCS non-scholarship level that wanted scholarships out of HS.  If they can get it, good for them.  With my job, I see it all of the time.  Someone joins the company, and if they stay for more than 1 year, it is a win, whereas you used to see people want to grow full careers inside a company.  Now, it is about who can give them the next big paycheck, regardless of what the company does or if their business model is sustainable. 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: Valpo17 on December 10, 2022, 07:09:14 AM
Hopefully Fox stays a couple more years-honestly not sure who would hire him-even though he's done great for us -the standards were pretty low following up the former head coaches we had
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: usc4valpo on December 10, 2022, 07:15:24 AM
Tx - great post. For some millennial and Gen Z employees, I see their need to get instant gratification. One year of experience for them can be viewed as significant. However I will say this - companies, particular those owned by shareholders, lack loyalty and empathy to employees, and mutual company- employee long term commitment is lacking. Employees need to have a level of patience, but you also have to make decisions that are right for you. The same applies to these players, and at the Valpo-Pioneer non scholarship level, I hope their decisions are based more on the school and it's academics than on football pursuits where a professional football career won't exist.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 12, 2022, 04:18:58 PM
OL Andrew Covert RSSO has entered the portal

19th guy in the portal. 24 walked on senior night.

That's potentially 43 spots to fill. (Granted some of each will most likely come back)
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 13, 2022, 11:18:21 AM
This may not be pertinent to Valpo but some HS coaches have said that college recruiters are stopping by to say hi and let it be known that their schools are going transfer only.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 13, 2022, 11:43:57 AM
Sadly that makes sense, consider most in the transfer portal were already recruited by scouts/schools so there's a distinct advantage to reviewing a player whose already made the cut somewhere.  The transfer portal is definitely hurting the HS kids though.  Add to that how many college seniors are opting for a 5th year!  That pretty much leaves HS talent in the dust, all due to the 2021 pandemic.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 14, 2022, 07:33:10 PM
Two new commits

6'2 210 Gabriel Batres Edge Fairfield California - 2* on 247 , several NAIA / D2 Offers

5'10 170 Brian Thomas RB Orlando Florida - Other offers included PFL Stetson / Presbyterian


RB: Beidl / Thomas
OT: Rosen
OL: Thorgesen
DE: Batres
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 15, 2022, 04:27:54 PM
New commit:


Ethan Stierheim OL 6'4 305 Williamsville NY , chooses Valpo over PWO at Stony Brook

RB: Beidl / Thomas
OL: Rosen ,Thorgesen , Stierheim
DE: Batres
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 16, 2022, 09:41:23 AM
New Commit:

DT Antony Morris 6'1 275 Cincinnati OH, chooses Valpo over Morehead State

RB: Beidl / Thomas
OL: Rosen ,Thorgesen , Stierheim
DT: Morris
DE: Batres
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 16, 2022, 10:12:16 PM
How many RB is Valpo recruiting, lol
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 16, 2022, 10:17:07 PM
Oops, my bad, I was just counting RB and not actually noticing the name.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 18, 2022, 11:20:29 AM
#2 Chuck Maxwell will enter the transfer portal. Meaning Solomon Davis will be the only receiver to return next season having played significantly.

Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 18, 2022, 07:21:46 PM
Stats tell the tale.  Viewing the team stats may shed some light on why so many WR are in the portal.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 18, 2022, 11:42:22 PM
Quote from: soapyjeans on December 18, 2022, 07:21:46 PMStats tell the tale.  Viewing the team stats may shed some light on why so many WR are in the portal.
What stats would those be?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 19, 2022, 11:17:56 AM
Uh, the team stats for the season.  Aren't stats used to evaluate performance, play time, production.  At the end of the day what counts is how the coaching staff reads those stats because they work directly with the players.  They definitely know more than we do.   :twocents:
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on December 19, 2022, 01:55:21 PM
On the WR transfers, is it because Valpo under Coach Fox has shown a preference for the ground game with Washington and Dawson joining the team back-to-back?

In any event, with Appel returning and Dawson graduating, one would think that VU could build on the promise of Appel's first year on the field and feature a more ambitious air game next fall.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 19, 2022, 04:39:52 PM
Quote from: soapyjeans on December 19, 2022, 11:17:56 AMUh, the team stats for the season.  Aren't stats used to evaluate performance, play time, production.  At the end of the day what counts is how the coaching staff reads those stats because they work directly with the players.  They definitely know more than we do.   :twocents:
That's a non answer. What stats are you referring to since you are posting that they tell the tale?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 19, 2022, 04:41:23 PM
Quote from: David81 on December 19, 2022, 01:55:21 PMOn the WR transfers, is it because Valpo under Coach Fox has shown a preference for the ground game with Washington and Dawson joining the team back-to-back? In any event, with Appel returning and Dawson graduating, one would think that VU could build on the promise of Appel's first year on the field and feature a more ambitious air game next fall.
I pointed out previously that the Valpo offense was not pass deficient in any fashion anyway.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 19, 2022, 04:43:08 PM
I could be wrong but Valpo alum Fred Gladney recruited most of the room. Fred was shown the door with the old offensive staff. That's theory A.

Theory B is Appel has the job but not the locker room.

Theory C is coach Smith is loved / hated and is staying / leaving
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 20, 2022, 08:59:00 AM
Team stats for 2022 showed me that Valpo prefers a ground game, hence not favorable to WR (Valpo has 5 WR in the portal now).  I looked at attempts vs completions on rushing then compared them to passing plays.  And since coaches use stats to evaluate players performance it just makes sense they would tell the tale (its just a phrase) :twocents: 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 20, 2022, 03:31:10 PM
418 rush - 352 pass .... Roughly 54% - 46%

Will be harder to find more of a balance with an All Conference / All Division RB in any level of football...
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 20, 2022, 03:48:49 PM
Quote from: soapyjeans on December 20, 2022, 08:59:00 AMTeam stats for 2022 showed me that Valpo prefers a ground game, hence not favorable to WR (Valpo has 5 WR in the portal now).  I looked at attempts vs completions on rushing then compared them to passing plays.  And since coaches use stats to evaluate players performance it just makes sense they would tell the tale (its just a phrase) :twocents:
Valpo's offense doesn't favor the run game any much more than most teams including those in the PFL. In fact they were in the top 4 or 5 in the league in passing stats.

Whatever you think you see is not supported in evidence.

Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on December 20, 2022, 04:55:53 PM
Ok, this was speculation about losing 5 WR to the portal, I refer to the stats because it shows results of plays complete and incomplete, thats all.  I'll just leave the forum to you, how's that.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 20, 2022, 05:00:35 PM
Mikey was 3rd in Completion % / Completions Per game in the conference as a first year starter

5th in overall efficiency with the #1 SOS. 8th in touchdowns.

Lots of roster spots still avl. Locke, Yeats, Semp, Acker, Martin, Stewart is a good batch of freshman.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 20, 2022, 05:21:53 PM
Whatever the issue is, I doubt it is the philosophy of the offense that is causing it. These kids don't need to pad their stats for draft day.

Keep in mind that these ar 18-22 year old kids for which merely being "in the portal" can be worn like a badge of honor. After all, if Mo and Curly are in the portal, Larry better get in there too or he's a luckless loser.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 20, 2022, 06:31:18 PM
Will Thorgesen has decommitted.


Looks like Valpo had picked up a 2022 RB Grad in Daniel Anoh out of Palisades California.

James Owsley 6'6 300 LB OL from Centerville in Ohio has committed

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), James Owsley
DL: Morris , Batres
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on December 20, 2022, 08:19:01 PM
With Appel at the helm I would think a number of WR from higher levels would consider Valpo as a landing spot.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 21, 2022, 02:14:54 PM
New Commit:

Justin Hemmersbach 6'2 270 OL Morris IL


RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach
DL: Morris , Batres


FWIW Bartholomew has entered the portal as a 6th year place kicker
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on December 21, 2022, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on December 21, 2022, 02:14:54 PMFWIW Bartholomew has entered the portal as a 6th year place kicker
an entry which actually makes sense
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: NWIGuy on December 21, 2022, 11:29:28 PM
I didn't see this posted on this board anywhere, although, I may have missed it. Looks like Coach Smith is leaving or being assigned a different position. This may provided some context for the number of WR headed to the portal.

12/13/22 FootballScoop Post...

"Valparaiso (FCS - IN): Valparaiso is currently hiring a wide receivers coach. This position coach would work closely with the offensive coordinator and staff, with primary responsibilities being on-field coaching, development and national recruitment of academically qualified student athletes. As a full time, benefits-eligible role, the successful candidate will have demonstrated success as a coach, recruiter, and strong interpersonal skills. Please send resume, cover letter, and references to landon.fox@valpo.edu."

https://footballscoop.com/thescoop/the-scoop-tuesday-december-13-2022
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 22, 2022, 08:40:07 AM
Entire Wideout group was already in the portal by the 13th.

This may be a cause and effect type deal. Maybe a change can convince guys like Maxwell , Contreras , Ross and Bingham to give it another try.

Personally would like to see Fred back. Would not like to see Miran back.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 25, 2022, 11:34:59 AM



New Commit:

Nate Meyer OL 6'3 270 Fairmont , Ohio

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer
DL: Morris , Batres


FWIW Bartholomew has entered the portal as a 6th year place kicker
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpotx on December 28, 2022, 06:08:50 PM
Too bad Bartholomew didn't have a season like last season.  He will probably land somewhere higher up, but probably would have landed somewhere solid, if he repeated his consistency.  Don't fault him one bit.  He has graduated with a Valpo degree, and fulfilled his commitment.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on December 28, 2022, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: valpotx on December 28, 2022, 06:08:50 PM
Too bad Bartholomew didn't have a season like last season.  He will probably land somewhere higher up, but probably would have landed somewhere solid, if he repeated his consistency.  Don't fault him one bit.  He has graduated with a Valpo degree, and fulfilled his commitment.
Something tells me the Butler tape will not be in his recruiting video.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 28, 2022, 09:00:56 PM
New Commit:

Logan Petrie 6'0 255 DT Indianapolis, IN - Brebeuf

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on December 30, 2022, 04:30:55 PM
New Commit:

Ezekiel Zeff 6'2 300 DT IMG Academy - Florida

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 02, 2023, 02:58:40 PM
Always tough to verify but believe we have landed two transfers

6'2 225 RB Maliq Staten Lincoln University  - Philadelphia, PA RSSO

6'4 200 WR Jack Oedekoven Robert Morris University - Erie, PA RSJR
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 02, 2023, 07:06:44 PM
New Commit:

Jake Russell 6'3 270 OL - Glenn Ridge - New Jersey

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 03, 2023, 06:42:15 PM
3 year fringe starter OL Danny Files has entered the portal. Bringing total to 20.

Anthony Hightower ended up at coffeyville cc
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 04, 2023, 03:13:16 PM
New Commit: RSFR Ryan Pauley 6'3 285 OL - Presbyterian College

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22)
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 11, 2023, 01:00:08 PM
New Commit: Tyler Geiman CB 6'1 180 Dubuque - D3 All American

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22)
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
DB: Geiman (19)

High School class in parenthesis
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on January 11, 2023, 01:10:33 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 11, 2023, 01:00:08 PM
New Commit: Tyler Geiman CB 6'1 180 Dubuque - D3 All American

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22)
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
DB: Geiman (19)

High School class in parenthesis

Wow!  Great get with good size, not the 5'9" corners we've had in the past.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: FBFan22 on January 12, 2023, 05:24:12 AM
Love the work this staff has been doing with recuiting HS players.  Hope they can land a few more transfer portal guys to fill holes on offense.


Heard Coach Denecke (OL) has taken the OC job at Western Illinois.  Great opportunity for him.   Coach Fox now needs to hire: OL, WR and RB coaches -- which he should have no problem doing.  This is the nature of the coaching profession.


Wonder if Jack Jarnigan has applied for the OL job? Would be a natural fit (VUFB alum coaching at NMSU) if he's interested.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on January 12, 2023, 11:43:24 AM
Quote from: vu72 on January 11, 2023, 01:10:33 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 11, 2023, 01:00:08 PM
New Commit: Tyler Geiman CB 6'1 180 Dubuque - D3 All American

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22)
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
DB: Geiman (19)

High School class in parenthesis

Wow!  Great get with good size, not the 5'9" corners we've had in the past.


Geiman looks like a grad transfer or COVID bonus senior. His junior year was superb:

https://udspartans.com/sports/football/roster/tyler-geiman/2309 (https://udspartans.com/sports/football/roster/tyler-geiman/2309)

Can we generalize on how DIII stars translate into DI non-scholarship?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on January 12, 2023, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: David81 on January 12, 2023, 11:43:24 AMCan we generalize on how DIII stars translate into DI non-scholarship?

Extremely well I would think.  Basically the same level.  We all know of D3 programs we wouldn't want to paly against.  Like Mount Union or St. Thomas for that matter. St. Thomas was runner-up twice since 2012 and we all have seen how that program translated into the Pioneer League.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: Turf and Grid Iron Dad on January 12, 2023, 07:11:45 PM
VU72 - I think you are a bit behind the times. NIL has changed everything for non-scholarship D1. PFL can be considered scholarship with the proper donors. Schools like St Thomas, Dayton, SD and Davidson now have donors that can offer NIL that will equal most other FCS scholarship programs. A significant separation in PFL has started and will continue until something governs NIL. 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: VULB#62 on January 12, 2023, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Turf and Grid Iron Dad on January 12, 2023, 07:11:45 PM
VU72 - I think you are a bit behind the times. NIL has changed everything for non-scholarship D1. PFL can be considered scholarship with the proper donors. Schools like St Thomas, Dayton, SD and Davidson now have donors that can offer NIL that will equal most other FCS scholarship programs. A significant separation in PFL has started and will continue until something governs NIL.

Holy $H!+ !!!!  We are so screwed. We have no structure in quaint little Valparaiso (or among our alumni) to even begin to support this.

This NIL thing absolutely sucketh.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 12, 2023, 08:16:43 PM
New Commit: Bennett McCormick WR -
6'3 185  - Catholic Memorial - Wisconsin i

Notes: Same High School as Ben Nimz, had a basketball scholarship offer to Portland State

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22)
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
DB: Geiman (19)

High School class in parenthesis


————-

Gridiron Turf Dad I agree to an extent. Top of line D3 would still do very well in PFL. A lot of money hid in "need base" scholarship

And as a rep from NCSA told me in 2012 sometimes we "need" a left tackle
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: VULB#62 on January 12, 2023, 08:52:44 PM
Catholic Memorial just won* yet another WI D4 State Championship. That is a good program.

* CORRECTION:  lost 21-23. However, they have been perennial state champs. 

Two Rivers, where I live, took CM to the wire in the semi 14-20.  TR's only loss all season. TR is led by two Juniors, a  6'2" 185# QB and a 6' 210# RB. The RB ran for over 2,000 yds as a soph and over 1300 yds this regular season (12 games).  The reason for the reduced production was the maturing of the QB who threw for over 1000 as a soph but broke the 2000 yd threshold in 2022 and completed passes at a 74% rate.

TR should be back in the playoffs again next season with these two kids a year older and most of the team returning.

I tried to get the VU staff interested in both players, but pretty much heard crickets in reply. The University of Minnesota, however, is pretty interested in the RB and the QB has inquiries from a couple of D-Is already. By not at least inviting the kids to a Valpo prospect camp this summer, an opportunity to create an early relationship goes wasted.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: usc4valpo on January 14, 2023, 07:33:20 AM
Blame Emmert and the NCAA academic idiots for the NIL mess. If they showed some level of compromise and pro activity toward this instead of getting slammed by the Supreme Court. The NIL out of control environment may cease to exist.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: historyman on January 14, 2023, 03:40:14 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on January 12, 2023, 08:52:44 PMTwo Rivers, where I live, took CM to the wire in the semi 14-21.  TR's only loss all season.

On the contrary, They lost to Trois-Rivières, Quebec by a river.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 15, 2023, 02:00:33 PM
New Commit: Jimmy Pouba - 6'0 195 DB - College of Sequoias , SO

HS teammate of Owen Cherry, had offer from Drake / San Diego out of HS. Went JUCO

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22)
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21)

High School class in parenthesis
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: VULB#62 on January 15, 2023, 06:47:23 PM
Looks like the portal is being hit pretty hard.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 18, 2023, 02:23:23 PM
New Commit: Gavin Houser - 6'1 180 LB/RB - Elkhart - IN

Power back, playmaker on defense. 62 touched on this but this class is light in terms of High School Seniors at this point (14). I have 70-75 returning players and Fox likes to bring in about 115-120 guys in the fall. Either Valpo is behind on recruiting or there will be ample transfers. Roughly 20-25 spots left.

Needs:

QB-Only Appel / Keefe on roster, Keefe had multiple PFL offers out of HS. Imagine that is the 1-2 moving forward. Tough sell to a high schooler, maybe a bounce back or juco guy here

WR- Someone has to play. Del Castillo was injured last year but played in '21 , Solomon Davis is the only real returner with experience. Big sophomore class

OL-Complete rebuild but they have brought in multiple guys. Denecke went back to Maine , need to fill quickly.

Defense we will be fine front 4 returns, think all 8 return from end of season rotation, LB-Doerer leaves but Annis comes back, Hines and Sciarroni back for 5th/covid years, Chilton, Days, Franco, Rao return out back. Geiman an experienced piece to help right away.

Offense was better last season but need to figure out / find a sustainable identity. Unless another scholarship RB falls from the sky.

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22)
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
LB: Houser
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21)

High School class in parenthesis
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 18, 2023, 06:16:32 PM
New Commit: Isaiah Fowler 6'1 270 OL/DL - Chesterton , IN

Love the focus on northern Indiana grabs. Butts in seats. If game atmosphere gets better the kids will come

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Fowler
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
LB: Houser
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21)

High School class in parenthesis
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 18, 2023, 06:31:50 PM
New Commit: Austin Brown - 6'2 210 LB -Lemont -  Illinois

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Fowler
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
LB: Houser, Brown
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21)

High School class in parenthesis
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 18, 2023, 08:24:38 PM
New Commit: Brenden McIlvenna 6'4 280 - Guerin Catholic - Indiana

Finally getting some local wins over Uindy, Saint Francis, and Marian

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Fowler, Mcilvenna
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
LB: Houser, Brown
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21)

High School class in parenthesis
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 19, 2023, 02:33:01 PM
New Commit: Michael Comber 6'5 275 OT - Verona - Wisconsin



RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Fowler, Mcilvenna, Comber
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
LB: Houser, Brown
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21)

High School class in parenthesis
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on January 19, 2023, 03:22:54 PM
Comber had offers from several D2 programs yet chose Valpo.  No doubt the D2 programs had much better facilities.  so why Valpo?  Two guesses. First is academics, he is a very good student. Second, is D1.  Those D2 programs would probably beat the snot out of Valpo yet kids want to say they played D1. 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 19, 2023, 07:09:37 PM
Somewhat disrespectful vu72 this team took Illinois State to the wire last year and played Dartmouth close.


Wins over San Diego and IWU (who would be a top 25 D2 school), but





New Commit: Johnny Bebie 6'0 185 Rocky River OH -
DB



RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Fowler, Mcilvenna, Comber
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff
LB: Houser, Brown
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie

High School class in parenthesis



Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on January 19, 2023, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 19, 2023, 07:09:37 PMSomewhat disrespectful vu72

Not my intent. Love Valpo and played some football there. It is the pull of high academics and playing a national level game schedule versus a bus ride schedule that no doubt appeals to many recruits.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on January 20, 2023, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: vu72 on January 19, 2023, 03:22:54 PM
Comber had offers from several D2 programs yet chose Valpo.  No doubt the D2 programs had much better facilities.  so why Valpo?  Two guesses. First is academics, he is a very good student. Second, is D1.  Those D2 programs would probably beat the snot out of Valpo yet kids want to say they played D1. 

D2 is sort of an odd place. I'm not knocking any of the schools or programs that play at the level. Rather, it lacks an identity to me. By contrast, for some reason, I'm always curious about what the D3 football playoff picture looks like. All of these smaller school powerhouses like Mount Union, North Central, and so on.

Still, I know there's plenty of playing talent in D2. We've seen it recently with MBB, in Kevion Taylor and Nick Edwards.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 21, 2023, 07:41:23 AM
Talked to my buddy who played at Saint Francis (NAIA) about this.


Not a monumental talent difference between D1 Non scholarship , Good NAIA, and Good D2 (and Whitewater/Mount Union)

Fall off is a really after you get passed the Ivy League. After the above levels there is another major drop in talent.

Really comes down to FASFA / Pell Grants vs Partial athletic scholarships at NAIA and D2
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on January 21, 2023, 10:15:19 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 21, 2023, 07:41:23 AM
Talked to my buddy who played at Saint Francis (NAIA) about this.


Not a monumental talent difference between D1 Non scholarship , Good NAIA, and Good D2 (and Whitewater/Mount Union)

Fall off is a really after you get passed the Ivy League. After the above levels there is another major drop in talent.

Really comes down to FASFA / Pell Grants vs Partial athletic scholarships at NAIA and D2

Here are the scholarship limits for football:

D1 FBS    85
D1 FCS    63
D2          36
NAIA       24

These of course can be split up among many athletes.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: usc4valpo on January 21, 2023, 11:06:25 AM
I agree with 72. The scores against Dartmouth and Illinois State were still decisive. It's a 60 minute game.

My daughter goes to NW Mo. St, and believe me that game wouLd be like NM State.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 21, 2023, 01:34:30 PM
New Mexico State beat liberty 49-14. With all due respect that is a much different level than your daughter's D2 school.

Valpo lost to a Gliac playoff Truman State team 34-7 Fox's first year in, which was basement of program since 2015. Truman went 10-2, Valpo went 1-11.

More realistic this version of Valpo would be an upper third team in the Gliac or similar conference.

To call a 7 point game decisive is kinda odd against Illinois State. Dartmouth ran one in with 30 seconds left.

Not much of a difference and Valpo competes probably with 95% of D2 schools.

2014 Valpo (Dave's first year) beat William Jewell who beat both Uindy and Truman that year
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 22, 2023, 12:32:57 PM

New Commits:

Nicolas Lendino - 6'0 175 - CB - Nequa Valley - IL

Austin Lambert - 6'4 240 - DE - Olentangy Berlin - OH

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert
LB: Houser, Brown
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino

Class up to 26 a few weeks before signing day, including xfers. Very large refocus on the Midwest. Still in need of QBs and WRs
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on January 22, 2023, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 22, 2023, 12:32:57 PM

New Commits:

Nicolas Lendino - 6'0 175 - CB - Nequa Valley - IL

Austin Lambert - 6'4 240 - DE - Olentangy Berlin - OH

RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert
LB: Houser, Brown
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino

Class up to 26 a few weeks before signing day, including xfers. Very large refocus on the Midwest. Still in need of QBs and WRs

I know they had a QB visit recently. It is a tough one with 2 young QB's returning. However you walk in as #3 on the depth chart.

Is our Punter coming back? We certainly Ned a kicker.

Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 23, 2023, 08:15:17 PM
New Commits:

James Langen - 6'4 230- DL - Lowell- IN

Caron Tyler - 5'11 180 - QB - Chapparal - CA


Tyler is a 3* on 247 coming in at QB which I believe is a program first. Even if he comes in for 2 years and transfers up. A massive grab.

QB: Tyler
RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert, Langen
LB: Houser, Brown
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on January 24, 2023, 08:05:35 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 23, 2023, 08:15:17 PMCaron Tyler - 5'11 180 - QB - Chapparal - CA

Obviously overlooked because of his height.  This could be a really good thing.  Remember that probably Valpo's best quarterback in the last 25 years was an undersized David Macchi.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on January 24, 2023, 12:45:21 PM
Split time last year and it appears that his HS team had another qb used more for passing situations while Tyler ran the ball a lot...over 1000 yards rushing. True dual threat. The year prior he was more prolific in the passing game.

Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 24, 2023, 03:25:19 PM
Note. Sophomore who he split time with Dash Beierly has an offer to Miami (FL) and Hawaii. He probably is a P5 kid
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on January 24, 2023, 05:32:56 PM
According to one prep football site, Tyler tossed 27 TD passes for his school's freshman team. Of course, that's not varsity competition, but it's clear this guy has shown from early on that he's a passer in addition to a runner.

I thought that Appel's performance might scare off anyone who hopes for significant playing time in '23.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpotx on January 25, 2023, 04:13:20 AM
Quote from: vu72 on January 24, 2023, 08:05:35 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 23, 2023, 08:15:17 PMCaron Tyler - 5'11 180 - QB - Chapparal - CA

Obviously overlooked because of his height.  This could be a really good thing.  Remember that probably Valpo's best quarterback in the last 25 years was an undersized David Macchi.


I'll fix this for you.  "...Valpo's best quarterback of all time."  It's not even close.  You have Macchi and everyone else below him, even the Nick Browder's and Murrell Shields.  Macchi was a little smaller than 5'11", regardless of what the roster history might say, but also from CA. 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 25, 2023, 07:52:58 AM
New Commits:

Brady Jimenez - WR - Albany University - RSJR - 4 GP

Max Samuel - LB - 6'2 205 - Edina, Minn


Jimenez is hopefully the first of a few transfers. Samuel had an offer from Sacred Heart and chose Valpo..

QB: Tyler
RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick, Jimenez (20)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert, Langen
LB: Houser, Brown, Samuel
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: Beacboy11 on January 25, 2023, 08:27:57 AM
A couple big HS wins in this class. Since joining the staff and becoming recruiting coordinator Coach Ghilarducci has done a nice job of bringing in west coast guys (Jernegan, Franco, Chastain, now 3 star Tyler & 2 star Batres). Plus the transfers like Hines/Dawson. One of the better recruiters in the conference
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 25, 2023, 10:05:13 AM
RJ has done an absolute fantastic job with recruiting and retention.

Really the entire defensive staff has (Fox, Doherty, Lutgens, RJ, Price)


Hopefully the pay day will allow Will Fleming to get an OL coach to stay. I believe the University has not had one since Vinny G (2018). Johnson appears to be great for program.

Last years coach Smith at WR seems to be a complete failure, Staff moved on right after season. Lots of transfers.

Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: NotBryceDrew on January 25, 2023, 01:21:25 PM
I believe we had a receiver a few years back who was also a 3 star
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 25, 2023, 02:20:25 PM
Was DB Jalen Leandre, played in 36 games over five years
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 26, 2023, 03:25:20 PM
New Commits:

Noah Kline - 6'5 300 - OL - Loveland - OH

Mark Johnson - 5'9 180 - DB - Lipscomb Academy - TN


Kline had PWO to Miami Oh, Johnson to UAB

QB: Tyler
RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick, Jimenez (20)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber, Kline
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert, Langen
LB: Houser, Brown, Samuel
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino, Johnson
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on January 26, 2023, 03:50:20 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 26, 2023, 03:25:20 PM
New Commits:

Noah Kline - 6'5 300 - OL - Loveland - OH

Mark Johnson - 5'9 180 - DB - Lipscomb Academy - TN


Kline had PWO to Miami Oh, Johnson to UAB

QB: Tyler
RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick, Jimenez (20)
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber, Kline
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert, Langen
LB: Houser, Brown, Samuel
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino, Johnson

I don't know if any of the OL can play, but they are really bringing in giants! Rosen, 6'8" 300+, Kline, 6'5" 300+ Wow!
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 26, 2023, 10:13:51 PM
New Commits:

QB - Michael Martin - 6'1 195 - QB - Marantha HS - CA

WR- Marty O'Keefe - 6'2 190 - WR - Brother Rice - IL

QB: Tyler, Martin
RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick, Jimenez (20), O'Keefe
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber, Kline
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert, Langen
LB: Houser, Brown, Samuel
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino, Johnson

34 in before Feb 1. Good job to staff. Figured about 40-45 new comers this wall year. Few surprises on signing day per usual and summer xfers
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpotx on January 27, 2023, 02:10:44 AM
Dayton's historically been extremely beefy in the trenches (even going back to my days on campus), so it is not surprising that Fox has the same view in the running game.  Get some big bodies in the way of defenders
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on January 27, 2023, 03:10:57 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 26, 2023, 10:13:51 PM
New Commits:

QB - Michael Martin - 6'1 195 - QB - Marantha HS - CA

WR- Marty O'Keefe - 6'2 190 - WR - Brother Rice - IL

QB: Tyler, Martin
RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick, Jimenez (20), O'Keefe
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber, Kline
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert, Langen
LB: Houser, Brown, Samuel
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino, Johnson

34 in before Feb 1. Good job to staff. Figured about 40-45 new comers this wall year. Few surprises on signing day per usual and summer xfers

Excellent job so far, grabbed a 2nd QB! Add a P and K maybe another WR or LB and that will be some class.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 28, 2023, 06:30:33 PM
New Commits:

Ian Scott - 5'10 165 - WR - Brentwood Academy - TN

Micah Mackay - 6'2 190 - WR - Lutheran - IN

Chase Lowary -6'1 205 - LB - Point Loma - CA

QB: Tyler, Martin
RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick, Jimenez (20), O'Keefe, Scott, Mackey
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber, Kline
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert, Langen
LB: Houser, Brown, Samuel, Lowary
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino, Johnson
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 29, 2023, 07:12:31 PM
New Commit:

Brandon Martin - 6'1 230 DE - Moeller - OH

Chose Valpo immediately after visiting Dayton.

QB: Tyler, Martin
RB: Beidl , Thomas , Anoh (22)
WR: McCormick, Jimenez (20), O'Keefe, Scott, Mackey
OL: Rosen , Stierheim , Mickelberry (22), Owsley, Hemmersbach, Meyer, Russell, Pauley (22) , Mcilvenna, Comber, Kline
DL: Morris , Batres, Petrie, Zeff, Fowler, Lambert, Langen, Martin
LB: Houser, Brown, Samuel, Lowary
DB: Geiman (19), Pouba (21), Bebie, Lendino, Johnson
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Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: historyman on January 29, 2023, 08:18:50 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 29, 2023, 07:12:31 PMChose Valpo immediately after visiting Dayton.


Coach Fox would be pretty well versed in everything that is a weakness at Dayton.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on January 29, 2023, 11:29:11 PM
Quote from: historyman on January 29, 2023, 08:18:50 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 29, 2023, 07:12:31 PMChose Valpo immediately after visiting Dayton.
Coach Fox would be pretty well versed in everything that is a weakness at Dayton.
Dayton just had a coaching staff change which may have played into any decision.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on January 30, 2023, 09:35:40 AM
Scott and MacKay seem like great gets for Valpo.  Scott had visits to Harvard and Dartmouth so has some brains to go with his football talent. Moeller is a powerhouse program in Ohio so getting Martin also looks good.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: Beacboy11 on January 30, 2023, 10:00:14 AM
Martin is well known here In Ohio. Big time pass rusher from Moeller, had bigger offers but got injured. Good get
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on January 30, 2023, 10:15:05 AM
IMO this is a high number foundation class for the program. Much like 2020. Dave and Dale both moved on and/or were shown door before a large reload.

The great news is this class (on paper) is much more talented than the 2020 class. Meaning that if only 20-25 guys make it through the roster will have a much better upperclassmen presence
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: FBFan22 on February 01, 2023, 04:49:27 AM
Signing day today...get your popcorn ready!
Let's hope the verbal commits are strong and there are very few flips.  If so, it will be a great day for Valpo Football and this coaching staff.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: JD24 on February 02, 2023, 02:51:46 PM
Usually there is an article for NSD but nothing. Was the day so poor that they don't want to talk about it?
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on February 02, 2023, 04:23:42 PM
Quote from: JD24 on February 02, 2023, 02:51:46 PM
Usually there is an article for NSD but nothing. Was the day so poor that they don't want to talk about it?
There are a couple of forms not in yet I would guess.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: FWalum on February 02, 2023, 04:31:39 PM
Paul Oren dropped a 50 min podcast on the Victory Bell early this afternoon.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: VULB#62 on February 02, 2023, 07:15:01 PM
Valpofb16 was one of the podcast guests. There are lots of one-by-one Twitter posts too. Figure the SID is waiting until all the forms are in before they do a release.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on February 03, 2023, 06:46:07 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 26, 2022, 08:27:07 AM
#88 RSFR George Dristiliaris has entered the portal. Backed up Hafner to begin season. Molnar and Elmore began taking reps as season moved on
Signed with Butler
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on February 03, 2023, 06:47:49 AM
Quote from: JD24 on February 02, 2023, 02:51:46 PM
Usually there is an article for NSD but nothing. Was the day so poor that they don't want to talk about it?
Just checked 3, Butler has announced 17, Dayton and Drake have not announced yet.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: vu72 on February 03, 2023, 08:51:51 AM
Great coverage on the Victory Bell!
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: Pgmado on February 03, 2023, 05:24:27 PM
https://www.thevictorybell.com/p/valparaiso-restocks-roster-with-large
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: David81 on February 04, 2023, 12:03:58 PM
Loved the report in The Victory Bell.

For all the gnashing of teeth (myself included) in the MBB threads, the football program is building a steady sense of momentum. Compared to previous points at which folks were optimistic about improvement, it's a higher level of expectations than simply wanting to be minimally respectable.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: historyman on February 04, 2023, 11:09:09 PM
Quote from: David81 on February 04, 2023, 12:03:58 PM
Loved the report in The Victory Bell.

For all the gnashing of teeth (myself included) in the MBB threads, the football program is building a steady sense of momentum. Compared to previous points at which folks were optimistic about improvement, it's a higher level of expectations than simply wanting to be minimally respectable.

There really IS a huge difference in the quality of coaching. Despite being one of the most outstanding people you could meet in the world, the coaching ability is NOT good for Matt Lottich or his staff.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on February 05, 2023, 08:57:06 AM
Fox and his staff did a good job recruiting.  I'm excited about the upcoming season  ;) 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on February 07, 2023, 06:56:35 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 28, 2023, 06:30:33 PM
New Commits:

Ian Scott - 5'10 165 - WR - Brentwood Academy - TN

Micah Mackay - 6'2 190 - WR - Lutheran - IN

Chase Lowary -6'1 205 - LB - Point Loma - CA



Scott is only one we lost, he flipped to Dartmouth.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on February 07, 2023, 06:57:29 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 23, 2022, 12:27:16 PM
DT Chase Randall has entered the Transfer Portal. Was beat out by a true freshman Logan Chastain. RSSO Trojanek is the back up.
PWO at Arizona.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: IndyValpo on February 07, 2023, 06:58:45 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on December 06, 2022, 04:39:53 PM
#48 Jackson Dorr has entered portal. Means Matthes is back?
Transfers to Stony Brook.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: NotBryceDrew on February 07, 2023, 09:47:25 PM
Brandon Martin looks to be the real deal. 2+ mins into highlights is still sacs 6+ is still TFLs. Not beating up on smaller OL either running through larger tackles and guards. Looks like a great commit
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: soapyjeans on March 01, 2023, 12:46:30 PM
Just read Valpos thread on incoming new coaches, and its an impressive read.  Oh and off topic but hey, why doesn't Valpo Football have its own section ???, can't help but notice basketball does??? 
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on March 01, 2023, 01:28:28 PM
Would be a question for moderator, I'm sure they could make it happen
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on May 13, 2023, 07:55:49 PM
Ezekiel Zeff Dt has decommitted.

Not a huge loss as that's a position of depth. Have added a xfer there as well who should help. D3 large contributor.

Will play if cleared, I don't know the xfer rules anymore
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: FBFan22 on May 21, 2023, 02:50:37 PM
Valpo picks up a JUCO WR,  Brandon Barthel 6'0 195 lbs from American River Junior College.
Title: Re: Football recruiting 2023
Post by: valpofb16 on May 21, 2023, 05:56:23 PM
PWO to UNLV / Southern Utah out of HS.

Tezzo, Jimenez , Barthel, Bingham. Wells less dry than it was Jan 1.