I'm sure that Roger can choose anyone whom he wants (although we've heard about salary limitations).
Who is likely to go? Will he hold onto Luke, a former colleague?
What about the others?
With our budget I like the following: Erik Buggs, Austin Peters, Matt Olinger from VCU and Luke Simons from Baylor. Of course Luke Gore if possible.
Austin Peters...wouldn't that be something? Where has ne been up to this point?
Peters and Buggs are up there. I'd imagine that he probably already has names he feels good about and may even had to give some of them as theoretical options in the interview and negotiation process to show what type of team he wants/needs to build.
64, Austin Peters is an assistant coach
at Arizona Christian University. Probably could afford him. Very smart basketball mind.
Lubos
I like the Peters connection...building on past successes.
Just read Paul's article on next steps so here are my five positions to fill:
1.) Dee Brown assistant coach. Has heading coaching experience.
2.) Chris Artis assistant coach. Knows The Region.
3.) Erik Buggs assistant coach.
4.) Thomas Kithier grad assistant.
5.) Lubas Barton director of basketball operations.
Ya think Lexus Williams would consider jumping from Boise State as that coach who can relate to young players? And/or is Tevonn a possible holdover?
And what about Luke? I know this should be a clean break with the past seven years, but Luke offers a lot to the transition as well as his familiarity with current players/transfers and current recruits as well as the NW Indiana region.
Love Lexus. May need more experience. Would get him home and knows Chicago market. Would relate to to younger players just like Erik Buggs would. Tevon would be great if the two Canadians stay. Not sure on Luke. He never recruited The Region that well while he was here. He is from TN and may want to head south? Maybe Erik Buggs comes to VU and Luke goes to TN-Martin?
Jason Hawkins has head coaching experience and from Gary. I think Paul
did a podcast on him?
Ryan Broekhoff would be 1 of my top choices for asst. coach. Roger was on staff for Ryan's final 2? seasons at Valpo. Everyone at the time said Ryan was an amazing student of the game, as well as being an great teammate. Played in the NBA for more than just a cup of coffee, Europe, and Australia. He is still playing, but he has to be at that age where he's looking to get into coaching, which Koala (his mom) said he has a passion to do. Some of you may also recall her as active on the message board when Ryan was here. She said the family LOVED VU and the community. When I asked her about Ryan someday coaching at Valpo, she replied "wouldn't that be lovely!"
Get interested, Ryan. I'm pulling for you!
Great website. Shows what Ryan is doing currently.
https://nbl.com.au/player/113805/1640134/ryan-broekhoff
Isn't Ryan's wife from Michigan and went to VU? That could help.
Deron Williams , Dee Brown, Luther Head, James Augustine , Jeffrey Jordan
Rowdy. Absolutely. Truth be told, his smile and joy while playing inspired me. I love the kid. His joy would transfer to players intrinsically. He has played on the biggest international stages. He has a worldly view. If he decides his playing days are over, what better place to start another illustrious career. Bonus: Koala would get back on the board ;D.
Broekhoff and Buggs, two names mentioned as possible assistants, are among those who join Paul Oren in this video podcast remembrance of the 2012-13 season:
https://www.thevictorybell.com/p/hard-to-believe-its-been-10-years (https://www.thevictorybell.com/p/hard-to-believe-its-been-10-years)
Looks like Buggs has a pretty good coaching resume for 32, his wife is from Chicago and may be time to move up from OVC to MVC.
Isn't it interesting that not too long ago many posters on this board wanted the new coaching staff to have nothing to do with with previous ties to VU saying we need to clean house, start fresh, etc. Now all we hear is bring back the old guard. It's rather amuzing.
Quote from: valpo64 on April 10, 2023, 07:47:59 AM
Isn't it interesting that not too long ago many posters on this board wanted the new coaching staff to have nothing to do with with previous ties to VU saying we need to clean house, start fresh, etc. Now all we hear is bring back the old guard. It's rather amuzing.
It was one of a few ties to the Drew regime that could be chosen to lead the Valpo program.
There is still the possibility that in 3 to 4 years the same crying about Lottich that many of the message board posters flooded this website with may happen to Powell if he doesn't happen to be more successful. I really highly doubt it at this point but it is a possibility.
I was making my reference to the assistant coaches...As for Powell...great hire.
Powell appears to have the experience, Valpo AND non Valpo (he was at an outstanding Gonzaga program) , to succeed. All I was saying is to not restrict your selection based solely on the Valpo family tree, which appears as if they looking within and outside of that. It looked like they thoroughly did their homework to make this selection.
Getting an assistant to recruit internationally would be great.
I want people who can "call people" i.e. their mentors for input. Powell im sure will be able to call the Drews and Few for ideas and input. Lets branch out for assistant coaches. Im still curious if AC budgets also increased, or if they decreased since Im assuming the HC will make more, or stay the same? Really need at least one, preferably 2, strong ACs to finish this out and then take a swing at an up and comer or a previous player. Wouldnt mind hiring someone like Schilling, an older guy who has HC experience but is on his way out and willing to serve as an AC for a year or two to help Powell transition to HC.
The stereotypic interview asks candidates to explain their strengths and, of course, challenges (AKA, weaknesses). None of us were privy to how Roger addressed these, but in assembling a new staff, I would think his highest priority would have to be, first and foremost, finding an AC who complements his coaching skill set by filling any gap in that skill set. I think Roger has the intelligence, humility but also self-confidence to know his limitations and not surround himself with yes-men or all guys who don't complete his coaching spectrum needs. So, it'll be very interesting to see who his first hire is.
https://twitter.com/valpo_hoops/status/1644035470521712641?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
https://twitter.com/valpo_hoops/status/1645223294386290688?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
Quote from: David81 on April 09, 2023, 10:05:16 AM
Broekhoff and Buggs, two names mentioned as possible assistants, are among those who join Paul Oren in this video podcast remembrance of the 2012-13 season:
https://www.thevictorybell.com/p/hard-to-believe-its-been-10-years (https://www.thevictorybell.com/p/hard-to-believe-its-been-10-years)
Broekhoff will definitely not be in the mix. He loves being home and is making pretty good $ being a star in Australia
I'd love to see Buggs back in the brown & gold.
I feel there is a better than 50-50 shot Buggs is in Valpo's coaching staff.
I've heard through rumors that Luke Gore has sold his house, almost immediately, and is looking for employment in other areas of the country.
Quote from: historyman on April 11, 2023, 07:44:55 AM
I've heard through rumors that Luke Gore has sold his house, almost immediately, and is looking for employment in other areas of the country.
Wow that's a bummer. I understand, but from understanding he was at the ARC on Monday from what I heard. I could see him putting it up for sale but selling the house in 2 weeks is like a fire sale drill.
I was really hoping Coach Gore would stick with Valpo, especially since he has a personal friendship with Coach Powell
Quote from: VU2014 on April 10, 2023, 08:21:50 PM
https://twitter.com/valpo_hoops/status/1644035470521712641?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
https://twitter.com/valpo_hoops/status/1645223294386290688?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
I have a feeling one of Matt Olinger & Luke Simmons will land a position on the new Coaching staff.
Can you give us some background on Olinger and Simmons, please?
There is no real estate listing or sales record of Luke selling or listing his home. So unless he sold it for cash to someone off the street, He and his family is still there.
Quote from: historyman on April 11, 2023, 07:44:55 AMI've heard through rumors that Luke Gore has sold his house, almost immediately, and is looking for employment in other areas of the country.
Quote from: VUBBFan on April 11, 2023, 06:56:26 PM
There is no real estate listing or sales record of Luke selling or listing his home. So unless he sold it for cash to someone off the street, He and his family is still there.
Quote from: historyman on April 11, 2023, 07:44:55 AMI've heard through rumors that Luke Gore has sold his house, almost immediately, and is looking for employment in other areas of the country.
I'll be making some phone calls but won't be able to name sources.
Quote from: historyman on April 11, 2023, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on April 11, 2023, 06:56:26 PM
There is no real estate listing or sales record of Luke selling or listing his home. So unless he sold it for cash to someone off the street, He and his family is still there.
Quote from: historyman on April 11, 2023, 07:44:55 AMI've heard through rumors that Luke Gore has sold his house, almost immediately, and is looking for employment in other areas of the country.
I'll be making some phone calls but won't be able to name sources.
This is not to say they are not thinking of doing it or are perhaps preparing in anticipation of (it would make sense to prepare). I'm Just saying not at this moment in time it's been done (house sold)
Carson would be a really interest Coach to add to the the staff as a special assistant to the head coach. Carson has a lot of head coaching experience to advise Roger. He's also a Region native and very well connected to the NWI coaching circles for recruiting...
https://twitter.com/carsonjames43/status/1645908949592588291?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
Quote from: VU2014 on April 11, 2023, 08:00:50 PM
Carson would be a really interest Coach to add to the the staff as a special assistant to the head coach. Carson has a lot of head coaching experience to advise Roger. He's also a Region native and very well connected to the NWI coaching circles for recruiting...
https://twitter.com/carsonjames43/status/1645908949592588291?s=46&t=cNk7taMAYtxNl1Q0_O79Gw
Seriously?
https://twitter.com/GregLuca/status/1645900989868679168
After coach said today that his assistants will be bringing players, following is my guess of coaches:
1.) Matt Olinger from Virginia Tech. Have two players in portal.
2.) Luke Simons from Baylor. Have four players in portal. Some from Ohio.
3.) Erik Buggs.
4.) Sasha for grad assistant. Brings Brandon.
Quote from: tiny707 on April 12, 2023, 11:59:12 AM
After coach said today that his assistants will be bringing players, following is my guess of coaches:
1.) Matt Olinger from Virginia Tech. Have two players in portal.
2.) Luke Simons from Baylor. Have four players in portal. Some from Ohio.
3.) Erik Buggs.
4.) Sasha for grad assistant. Brings Brandon.
I know nothing of Olinger and any Virginia Tech student athletes.
I'm not sure Baylor players would transfer to Valpo no matter how much Scott praised the school and it's atmosphere.
Buggs is a good possibility
I don't believe Sasha or Brandon believe Valpo is on their level at this time. Maybe in the future but not at this time.
Quote from: historyman on April 11, 2023, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: VUBBFan on April 11, 2023, 06:56:26 PM
There is no real estate listing or sales record of Luke selling or listing his home. So unless he sold it for cash to someone off the street, He and his family is still there.
Quote from: historyman on April 11, 2023, 07:44:55 AMI've heard through rumors that Luke Gore has sold his house, almost immediately, and is looking for employment in other areas of the country.
I'll be making some phone calls but won't be able to name sources.
https://twitter.com/toddickow/status/1646135299011928065?s=61&t=rvVIRCc0Iy1MgHjjNd30UA
As much as I hate to see Coach Gore go, I have to think that this would probably be the best thing for him. He likely needs to be around other coaches and systems in order to grow.
He has been an awesome ambassador, and I truly wish the best for him and his family.
Well, after hearing the Father Harry podcast, Coach Powell mentioned one of his assistants knows the MVC. The only guy I can think of would be Dodie Dunson II. Played at Bradley. Current WBB assistant at UIC. We will see....
Quote from: 4throwfan on April 12, 2023, 07:30:11 PMAs much as I hate to see Coach Gore go, I have to think that this would probably be the best thing for him. He likely needs to be around other coaches and systems in order to grow. He has been an awesome ambassador, and I truly wish the best for him and his family.
As do I.
Having said that, there is usually a time to clean and start over and this is it from my vantage point for Valpo.
Quote from: JD24 on April 13, 2023, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: 4throwfan on April 12, 2023, 07:30:11 PMAs much as I hate to see Coach Gore go, I have to think that this would probably be the best thing for him. He likely needs to be around other coaches and systems in order to grow. He has been an awesome ambassador, and I truly wish the best for him and his family.
As do I.
Having said that, there is usually a time to clean and start over and this is it from my vantage point for Valpo.
It didn't start this way, but by the end the only recruits I heard Luke's name connected to were Canadian. Bowen was the small town Wisconsin guy. Matt had an apparent connection to Europe that went back to his playing days. Basically, that's it.
The European and Canadian recruits were unknown, unrated quantities where evaluation was made primarily from watching game videos. Wisconsin? Nice idea, but it soon became painfully obvious why small town WI is not considered a recruiting hot bed in the MVC. The icing on the cake was the inability to land even 1 D-1 transfer from the portal last year. A total disaster.
I wish them all luck in their future pursuits, but I hope that someone close to them who truly cares has the courage to kindly suggest that they may want to consider a lower level of college bb, or even a complete career change. No one can pretend to be something they're not forever.
Quote from: wh on April 13, 2023, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: JD24 on April 13, 2023, 12:58:15 PM
Quote from: 4throwfan on April 12, 2023, 07:30:11 PMAs much as I hate to see Coach Gore go, I have to think that this would probably be the best thing for him. He likely needs to be around other coaches and systems in order to grow. He has been an awesome ambassador, and I truly wish the best for him and his family.
As do I.
Having said that, there is usually a time to clean and start over and this is it from my vantage point for Valpo.
It didn't start this way, but by the end the only recruits I heard Luke's name connected to were Canadian. Bowen was the small town Wisconsin guy. Matt had an apparent connection to Europe that went back to his playing days. Basically, that's it.
The European and Canadian recruits were unknown, unrated quantities where evaluation was made primarily from watching game videos. Wisconsin? Nice idea, but it soon became painfully obvious why small town WI is not considered a recruiting hot bed in the MVC. The icing on the cake was the inability to land even 1 D-1 transfer from the portal last year. A total disaster.
I wish them all luck in their future pursuits, but I hope that someone close to them who truly cares has the courage to kindly suggest that they may want to consider a lower level of college bb, or even a complete career change. No one can pretend to be something they're not forever.
If this is accurate and two of the assistants were primarily focusing on Canada and Wisconsin, it's no wonder the last staff performed the way it did. That's inexcusable for a program trying to compete in the Missouri Valley.
Wonder if Brad Korn would come to Valpo as an assistant. Successful HC experience and only making 200K. Knows MVC.
It seems obvious to me that Powell is going to hire who he wants, select people who he already knows, and is not checking the fan board for recommendations.
Makes you wonder what size budget he got for assistant hires. Hope it was enough to win in the MVC.
The name of this thread is call let's speculate not let's recommend assistant coaches. I would not shocked if some of the names mentioned end up the bench. I think he will tap into his Vanderbilt days and Baylor connection. Not sure if a Valpo connection will end up on the bench. The coach with MVC experience is the one I am stumped with.
Yeah I don't know whether to assume it's an older head coach or maybe an assistant? A couple who popped up are currently in pretty good second in command jobs at other programs that I can't see leaving them leaving for anything that's not a head job.
I thought maybe someone from Porter's crew at Loyola but can't find someone that would match.
Quote from: tiny707 on April 13, 2023, 04:52:58 PM
The name of this thread is call let's speculate not let's recommend assistant coaches. I would not shocked if some of the names mentioned end up the bench. I think he will tap into his Vanderbilt days and Baylor connection. Not sure if a Valpo connection will end up on the bench. The coach with MVC experience is the one I am stumped with.
I think Gregg Marshall is unemployed.
Quote from: 4throwfan on April 13, 2023, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: tiny707 on April 13, 2023, 04:52:58 PM
The name of this thread is call let's speculate not let's recommend assistant coaches. I would not shocked if some of the names mentioned end up the bench. I think he will tap into his Vanderbilt days and Baylor connection. Not sure if a Valpo connection will end up on the bench. The coach with MVC experience is the one I am stumped with.
I think Gregg Marshall is unemployed.
Greg Lansing had a winning record at Indiana State over 11 seasons, and he did that with the worst budget in the league over that time. What is he up to these days?
Dee Brown, played with Powell at Illinois and With Jazz.
5 years at UIC. Valley experience.
Known name in region.
Valpo assistant is surely a pay raise over HC at Roosevelt
Quote from: valpofb16 on April 13, 2023, 07:30:32 PM
Dee Brown, played with Powell at Illinois and With Jazz.
5 years at UIC. Valley experience.
Known name in region.
Valpo assistant is surely a pay raise over HC at Roosevelt
Well, Powell did bring his favorite players/coaches with him. He posted this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/RogerPowellJr/status/1645207369776001030
Having Dee Brown could be amazing. Loved watching him play first at Proviso East and then at Illinois. I hope we find out soon.
Quote from: chgovalpofan on April 14, 2023, 08:21:31 AM
Having Dee Brown could be amazing. Loved watching him play first at Proviso East and then at Illinois. I hope we find out soon.
Powell did say he expected the staff to be finalized by the end of this week, so I'm thinking we find out early next week. I anticipate that once the staff is out and public, we'll start hearing a lot more about transfer portal targets and connections. Should be an exciting few weeks.
Luke Gore (@coachgore) · Twitter
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Thank you @valpobasketball and @valpou. My time at Valparaiso University has been an absolute honor and an amazing journey for me and my family. I am so proud to be a son, a husband, a player of, a colleague, a coach of, and a friend to many fellow @ValpoAlumni #ValpoFamily
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I would also like to thank Coach Gore for his 20 plus years of dedication to Valpo. He will be missed. Maybe some sort of appreciative gathering of some kind could be extended to Luke. (http://[/color)
Just made public that Luke is headed to Wichita State as Director of Basketball Operations
That's great. Good luck, Luke, and thanks for all you contributed to VALPO Basketball and the Valpo community. :thumbsup:
Good for Luke. I hope that Wichita State gives him what he is looking for in career advancement in the future
Luke Gore Article. Dated
https://www.parispi.net/sports/local_sports/article_8920cf20-4bd1-11ed-8156-87339defc4d6.html
I can't imagine we go much longer without knowing the staff. Hopefully today, maybe tomorrow at the latest.
So should we read anything in to the fact that the "Coaches" page under Men's Basketball on valpoathletics.com is updated to show Roger as Head Coach, other assistants have been removed, but Rob Holloway still shows as Assistant Coach?
Quote from: Valpo2010 on April 17, 2023, 06:10:33 PM
So should we read anything in to the fact that the "Coaches" page under Men's Basketball on valpoathletics.com is updated to show Roger as Head Coach, other assistants have been removed, but Rob Holloway still shows as Assistant Coach?
Other than Rob had the best recruiting contacts in the Chicago area, No, NOT AT ALL......... nothing to see there.
I"ve heard most, if not all of the new coaches are on campus so I don't know if they're waiting for a final one to do a full announcement.
Quote from: historyman on April 17, 2023, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: Valpo2010 on April 17, 2023, 06:10:33 PM
So should we read anything in to the fact that the "Coaches" page under Men's Basketball on valpoathletics.com is updated to show Roger as Head Coach, other assistants have been removed, but Rob Holloway still shows as Assistant Coach?
Other than Rob had the best recruiting contacts in the Chicago area, No, NOT AT ALL......... nothing to see there.
Rob and I share 2 things in common. We both have Chicago area contacts and neither of us has successfully recruited a Chicago kid to play basketball for Valpo.
Quote from: wh on April 17, 2023, 07:02:01 PM
Quote from: historyman on April 17, 2023, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: Valpo2010 on April 17, 2023, 06:10:33 PM
So should we read anything in to the fact that the "Coaches" page under Men's Basketball on valpoathletics.com is updated to show Roger as Head Coach, other assistants have been removed, but Rob Holloway still shows as Assistant Coach?
Other than Rob had the best recruiting contacts in the Chicago area, No, NOT AT ALL......... nothing to see there.
Rob and I share 2 things in common. We both have Chicago area contacts and neither of us has successfully recruited a Chicago kid to play basketball for Valpo.
Ok, I was trying to be very faceous with that statement. It's pretty obvious the previous staff didn't recruit the Chicago area very well. I won't debate who has the most Chicago contacts.
Maybe he is just staying on a little longer to help with the transition until the new staff is announced. TVB indicated the expectation is that all staff was let go, and Holloway was not in attendance at the Powell press conference. I also don't see where he would fit in, as Powell said he wanted a former head coach for the associate head coach position, as well as an offensive guy and a defensive guy. Rob is not a former head coach, and considering we had no offense OR defense under Lottich, I don't see which one Holloway would be manning.
Also, let's get this show rolling. If we already reportedly have a staff that is working at the university, what is the holdup on the announcement? We have 7+ spots to fill and I haven't seen so much as a "Valpo showing interest in..." yet save for a recruit Powell appearently offered before he was even formally announced. Hate to be impatient but good players go fast in the transfer portal and we were already behind.
Quote from: vok22 on April 17, 2023, 11:21:56 PM
If we already reportedly have a staff that is working at the university, what is the holdup on the announcement? We have 7+ spots to fill and I haven't seen so much as a "Valpo showing interest in..." yet...
Ask and you shall receive:
[tweet]1648165017806688264[/tweet]
Quote from: valpopal on April 18, 2023, 07:46:28 AM
Quote from: vok22 on April 17, 2023, 11:21:56 PM
If we already reportedly have a staff that is working at the university, what is the holdup on the announcement? We have 7+ spots to fill and I haven't seen so much as a "Valpo showing interest in..." yet...
Ask and you shall receive:
[tweet]1648165017806688264[/tweet]
Looks like he shot 40% from three on 5 attempts per game this year. Came off the bench for all but 3 games and still got off just under 5 threes per game. Would be refreshing to have some people that can make a basket from out there.
These players said they have heard from Valpo. I don't know their status or if they have been mentioned on these boards.
UIC: Jalen Jackson. 7.3PPG, 2RPG, 1,6APG
WOFFORD: Messiah Jones.
ARK ST: Terrance Ford Jr.
BUTLER: Miles Tate. 7.9ppg, 1.2stls, 13 starts
AMERICAN: Johnny O'Neil. 6' 9", 11.3ppg, 6.6RPG, 1.7blks/gm, 39.2% 3P
Quote from: Just Sayin on April 18, 2023, 08:58:49 AM
These players said they have heard from Valpo. I don't know their status or if they have been mentioned on these boards.
UIC: Jalen Jackson. 7.3PPG, 2RPG, 1,6APG
WOFFORD: Messiah Jones.
ARK ST: Terrance Ford Jr.
BUTLER: Miles Tate. 7.9ppg, 1.2stls, 13 starts
AMERICAN: Johnny O'Neil. 6' 9", 11.3ppg, 6.6RPG, 1.7blks/gm, 39.2% 3P
Jalen Jackson is the brother of the Jackson twins who signed with Valpo women. He has signed with Fort Wayne.
Quote from: vok22 on April 17, 2023, 11:21:56 PMMaybe he is just staying on a little longer to help with the transition until the new staff is announced. TVB indicated the expectation is that all staff was let go, and Holloway was not in attendance at the Powell press conference. I also don't see where he would fit in, as Powell said he wanted a former head coach for the associate head coach position, as well as an offensive guy and a defensive guy. Rob is not a former head coach, and considering we had no offense OR defense under Lottich, I don't see which one Holloway would be manning. Also, let's get this show rolling. If we already reportedly have a staff that is working at the university, what is the holdup on the announcement? We have 7+ spots to fill and I haven't seen so much as a "Valpo showing interest in..." yet save for a recruit Powell appearently offered before he was even formally announced. Hate to be impatient but good players go fast in the transfer portal and we were already behind.
When a staff is released typically someone is kept around to pick up the phone if necessary. That's likely the case here.
Valpo seems very deliberate in announcing staff hirings. While not as high profile, it seemed about 3 weeks between hearing about the football staff and a formal announcement. There may be a vetting or approval process which takes longer than either other programs have in place or we want to wait through.
The Williams & Mary kid was with the previous staff that was talking to him.
I'm wondering what is taking so long with the announcement of the staff. I have to think 1 or 2 guys turned down an offer.
Our pay for assistants probably sucks..
We got anxious before Powell got hired, trust the process
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As one of the few still remaining after a 7-year famine, these players are not what I was picturing upon drinking in the words, "I'm adding high profile assistants, and they're bringing players with them."
The staff is being built and recruiting is happening. It will be an entire turnover on the staff. In terms of any perceived holdup, I'm sure the school will announce when it has all the paperwork situated. Might be waiting for everything all at once. There are new people working. Who they are? Not confirmed on any of it yet.
Quote from: wh on April 18, 2023, 04:00:00 PM
As one of the few still remaining after a 7-year famine, these players are not what I was picturing upon drinking in the words, "I'm adding high profile assistants, and they're bringing players with them."
I'm still bracing for that first day of some really bad news from this staff. Not everything will be perfect but so far it seems to be progressing in a way that leads to feeling very optimistic about the way Valpo is heading. It may take more than a month to build that Final Four team. :-)
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2022-23/22060/powell-welcomes-trio-to-valpo-basketball-coaching-staff/
They're here!
Sounds like great hires!
A dream team of experience, character, and accomplishment!
Whoa! Great resumes and glowing recommendations. But what got me was that Gordon left Porter Moser and Butler left Bryce to come with Roger. Baldwin, may have been collateral of the change at G'Town, but he certainly could have picked up another P5 job with his record. Says a lot about the respect Roger has in the coaching fraternity.
We, apparently have a big enough budget to afford these guys. I'm seeing something that was kinda missing in the past— commitment.
Those are really good hires!
Powell mentioned wanting to have a former head coach, an offensive guy, and a defensive guy on his staff. Baldwin is obviously the former head coach, but I wonder which are the offensive and defensive guys. I read a lot about their recruiting connections, but can't find any details on what side of the ball they are most fluent in.
Quote from: vok22 on April 19, 2023, 11:32:31 AM
Powell mentioned wanting to have a former head coach, an offensive guy, and a defensive guy on his staff. Baldwin is obviously the former head coach, but I wonder which are the offensive and defensive guys. I read a lot about their recruiting connections, but can't find any details on what side of the ball they are most fluent in.
I always say Moser teams as being very tough and prepared defensively. So if I had to take a guess, Gordon would be the "defensive guy".
Worth nothing, there's still another assistant or associate head coach role to fill.
Quote from: valpo4life on April 19, 2023, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: vok22 on April 19, 2023, 11:32:31 AM
Powell mentioned wanting to have a former head coach, an offensive guy, and a defensive guy on his staff. Baldwin is obviously the former head coach, but I wonder which are the offensive and defensive guys. I read a lot about their recruiting connections, but can't find any details on what side of the ball they are most fluent in.
I always say Moser teams as being very tough and prepared defensively. So if I had to take a guess, Gordon would be the "defensive guy".
Worth nothing, there's still another assistant or associate head coach role to fill.
I still say Kyle Smithpeters, I believe my mom's friend that they were at the very least talking seriously to him. Someone else said his brother though, Tyler...who knows, maybe Holloway is staying?!?
I still think Sasha may be in for a grad assistant. Just a hunch on my part.
Quote from: wh on April 18, 2023, 04:00:00 PMAs one of the few still remaining after a 7-year famine, these players are not what I was picturing upon drinking in the words, "I'm adding high profile assistants, and they're bringing players with them."
I don't feel like watching the entire press conference again but I read the line about bringing in the assistants and they were bringing players in before I watched the press conference the day it occurred. Then when I watched the press conference I didn't think he said this in quite this fashion. I took it as bringing in top assistants and top players and that was two separate issues.
I took it more as the coaches will have guys they have their eyes on and think would be good fits or who they would have connections to as well. So not a sure thing of bringing them in but a matter of bringing in new people with a new constellation of connections and opinions
Omg yes. Great hires. Love seeing the newfound commitment!!
Quote from: cornonthe on April 19, 2023, 11:56:25 AMmaybe Holloway is staying?!?
His picture has been removed from the coaches page.
Quote from: tiny707 on April 19, 2023, 12:12:46 PM
I still think Sasha may be in for a grad assistant. Just a hunch on my part.
I've heard he has other plans, but that could be wrong
We asleep at the wheel?
QuoteValparaiso University men's basketball head coach Roger Powell Jr. has announced the first three members of his coaching staff as Pat Baldwin and Matt Gordon will serve as assistant coaches, while Kylen Butler joins the staff as special assistant to the head coach.
https://valpo.life/article/powell-welcomes-trio-to-valpo-basketball-coaching-staff/
Quote from: JD24 on April 19, 2023, 04:08:36 PM
We asleep at the wheel?
QuoteValparaiso University men's basketball head coach Roger Powell Jr. has announced the first three members of his coaching staff as Pat Baldwin and Matt Gordon will serve as assistant coaches, while Kylen Butler joins the staff as special assistant to the head coach.
https://valpo.life/article/powell-welcomes-trio-to-valpo-basketball-coaching-staff/
Up thread a little:
:snore:
https://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=4481.msg148798#msg148798
So this is the continued unfolding of Valpo basketball's Go Big or Go Home moment. We're going to see if Going Big can bring on-the-court and financial success to this program. This is exciting. And if they can find a way to put a competitive team on the floor this season, the stands may well be packed again.
Decided to check the MBB coaches page on ValpoAthletics.com. Who knows how things will change going forward, but Peter Funk (DBO), Tevonn (GA), Thomas (GA) are still hanging out in the portrait gallery. Holding onto these young men at this stage in their career development would be a wonderful way for Roger to plant the roots of a Powell coaching tree.
Interesting to note that Pat Baldwin was introduced as an Assistant coach and not an Associate Head Coach. Pat does have Hc experience.
Quote from: VU2014 on April 19, 2023, 09:54:28 PMInteresting to note that Pat Baldwin was introduced as an Assistant coach and not an Associate Head Coach. Pat does have Hc experience.
This is actually a very good point. According to Paul Oren, Powell specifically said he is looking for somebody with head coaching experience in the associate head coach position. Makes me think whoever does get that spot is going to have head coaching experience unless he already fulfilled it with Baldwin and called that good enough. Would make more sense for it to be that Smithpeters guy then. Yea, he'd be leaving the SEC, but moving up from assistant to associate head coach, and he does have north MVC and head coaching experience.
Quote from: vok22 on April 19, 2023, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 19, 2023, 09:54:28 PMInteresting to note that Pat Baldwin was introduced as an Assistant coach and not an Associate Head Coach. Pat does have Hc experience.
This is actually a very good point. According to Paul Oren, Powell specifically said he is looking for somebody with head coaching experience in the associate head coach position. Makes me think whoever does get that spot is going to have head coaching experience unless he already fulfilled it with Baldwin and called that good enough. Would make more sense for it to be that Smithpeters guy then. Yea, he'd be leaving the SEC, but moving up from assistant to associate head coach, and he does have north MVC and head coaching experience.
My moms friend still insists that they at least talked to Ryan Smithpeters, but maybe they couldn't get anything official...last night it looked like it was done...weird...
Quote from: cornonthe on April 19, 2023, 10:32:03 PM
Quote from: vok22 on April 19, 2023, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 19, 2023, 09:54:28 PMInteresting to note that Pat Baldwin was introduced as an Assistant coach and not an Associate Head Coach. Pat does have Hc experience.
This is actually a very good point. According to Paul Oren, Powell specifically said he is looking for somebody with head coaching experience in the associate head coach position. Makes me think whoever does get that spot is going to have head coaching experience unless he already fulfilled it with Baldwin and called that good enough. Would make more sense for it to be that Smithpeters guy then. Yea, he'd be leaving the SEC, but moving up from assistant to associate head coach, and he does have north MVC and head coaching experience.
My moms friend still insists that they at least talked to Ryan Smithpeters, but maybe they couldn't get anything official...last night it looked like it was done...weird...
Yes, but...my next door neighbor's puppy, Sporty Beagle, is dog park friends with Beacon and Blaze and they told Sporty that they were relieving themselves...of the pressure have having to deal with ignorant humans and failed coaches...and that Smithpeters was coming to Valpo but only to exercise his dog, Spicey Smithpeters, at the dog park and then will be heading back to the S.E.C.
Interesting that everyone railed on Ed Schillings coaching record at Wright State but Baldwin gets a pass with his record at Milwaukee. His year at Georgetown was brutal. Out of work so we could afford him.
Quote from: tiny707 on April 20, 2023, 06:55:36 AM
Interesting that everyone railed on Ed Schillings coaching record at Wright State but Baldwin gets a pass with his record at Milwaukee. His year at Georgetown was brutal. Out of work so we could afford him.
Well I think everybody would've been up in arms if he was a candidate to be head coach here, but :
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In his final campaign with the Wildcats, Northwestern tallied a school-record 24 victories and the first NCAA tournament berth in school history. NU's campaign also included 10 wins in Big Ten play for the first time since the 1930s. That followed what was a school-record 20 wins during the 2015-16 campaign.
As an assistant coach at NU, where he worked primarily with the guards, Baldwin helped the Wildcats land recruiting classes ranked in the nation's top 30.
It's interesting that Baldwin has a connection to JR Blount via his time at Loyola. I guess it's a small world for college basketball coaches.
Quote from: tiny707 on April 20, 2023, 06:55:36 AMInteresting that everyone railed on Ed Schillings coaching record at Wright State but Baldwin gets a pass with his record at Milwaukee. His year at Georgetown was brutal. Out of work so we could afford him.
Then I think it's good news that he's not the head coach hire.
Does it usually take this long to put a full staff together? I believe two positions are still open, including the Associate Head Coach position. I understand taking your time but at this point at this point I have to imagine we've made multiple offers and been turned down...
Sounds like we just hired AJ Moye for one of the open spots...
https://t.co/MCCan8pe6O
Expect former Indiana standout A.J. Moye to join Roger's Coaching staff. Roger and A.J. connected when they both played in Germany. Moye was a contemporary with Roger playing in the Big 10. He has been a high school coach and trainer in California for a number of years. He has coached at both Oaks Christian and Oak Park High School and has trained a number of NBA . He also coached a number of future NBA players.
No knock on the departed staff but...WOW! Roger has put together quite the staff!
https://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2022-23/22082/moye-joins-valpo-mens-basketball-staff-as-assistant-coach-garrison-named-director-of-operations/
I believe Coach Garrison is connected with Isaiah Stafford that VU recently offered.
Hands down the highest profile staff in the MVC. It doesn't even need to be researched.
They fully represent the necessary spectrum of demonstrated coaching skills that makes a group of players better. This isn't just a collection of coaches, it is a carefully selected assembly of complementary persons who I am sure buy into and will work hard to create the BB culture that Roger envisions and produces solid players who play unselfishly as a team. 2023-24 is gonna be fun to watch.
wow I am really impressed. Hopefully this translates into good recruits and ultimately a stellar basketball program..
I understand from people close to the IU program that many wanted IU to hire A. J. Moye as an asst Good catch for us. Let's play ball! Oh yes but get some players first. :)
Based on the staff he has assembled, imagine if you will......
Roger walks into a top recruit's home. He says to the recruit and his family:
"You've seen Top Gun, right? Remember Tom Skerritt and his address to the in-coming class? He said to them 'You are the best of the best. We are going to make you better.' That's our commitment to you as a Valpo basketball player. We will make you better because we have have the staff to do it."
If I was in that room, all I'd say is "Where do I sign?"
Cannot be even remotely upset with this staff. As high caliber of a staff as one can get at the mid major level.
Roger and AJ have won at every level they have been at, including both the Power 5 and Mid Major level. Experience recruiting and developing high level players including college and NBA superstars. Deep recruiting connections. Experience learning from one of the all time coaches (Mark Few). Experience winning at Valpo.
I can only imagine the impact that having a head coach and an assistant coach that have that level of PLAYING experience will have on the recruiting trail. Not many, if any, mid major programs have a head coach that can say they went to a Final Four as a player and coach, and then an assistant that played in the National Championship. They know what players are looking for an how to accommodate them. Not to mention AJ has trained DeMar Derozan, Kyrie Irving, and more recently Jaime Jaquez Jr. That is a flex. Roger being the primary recruiter for numerous NBA players that went through Gonzaga.
Now let's see what they can do.
I do feel that the level of connections this coaching staff has is a selling point not just to come but to stay.
Quote from: crusader05 on April 26, 2023, 06:22:21 PM
I do feel that the level of connections this coaching staff has is a selling point not just to come but to stay.
:thumbsup:
Quote from: valpo64 on April 26, 2023, 04:13:31 PMLet's play ball! Oh yes but get some players first.
By my count we have more coaches than players. Not completely certain if this new approach will be successful in the MVC.
Quote from: justducky on April 26, 2023, 06:58:29 PM
By my count we have more coaches than players. Not completely certain if this new approach will be successful in the MVC.
But the four players we have are "fabulous!" ;D
Quote from: wh on April 26, 2023, 03:05:06 PM
Hands down the highest profile staff in the MVC. It doesn't even need to be researched.
this is laughable
Quote from: beacons23 on April 27, 2023, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: wh on April 26, 2023, 03:05:06 PM
Hands down the highest profile staff in the MVC. It doesn't even need to be researched.
this is laughable
I'm glad I was able to bring a little joy your way. Maybe you would be willing to educate me about all the coach and assistant coach combinations in the MVC that our new staff is inferior to. There must be several for my comment to be laughable.
It's easier to envision success when it comes to high profile coaching hires than it is for high profile recruiting classes. The Lottich era taught us many times that all that glitters is not gold. I'm tempering my expectations until I see the roster they put together and also until I see it in live action a few times. I remain optimistic but I'm still a bit burned and jaded by the early fanfare of the Lottich era.
It is important to realize that because of the late start this Staff faced we should not judge this first recruiting class as typical of future recruiting efforts. Nonetheless, it appears that they are being particular in these late efforts to fill the roster I trust we will get off on the right foot recruiting wise and even though they quality of players may not be up to future standing, we will get quality people that will fit into the Rev's plans in the future. And who knows, maybe we will even surprise people this up-coming season.
Be sure to read Paul Oren's latest article on A.J. Moye. It is a great piece and should make all Valpo fans very proud of Coach Powell and the hiring of A.J. What a class act!
Quote from: wh on April 27, 2023, 01:02:41 PM
Quote from: beacons23 on April 27, 2023, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: wh on April 26, 2023, 03:05:06 PM
Hands down the highest profile staff in the MVC. It doesn't even need to be researched.
this is laughable
I'm glad I was able to bring a little joy your way. Maybe you would be willing to educate me about all the coach and assistant coach combinations in the MVC that our new staff is inferior to. There must be several for my comment to be laughable.
That would require research, which you forbade. ;) Seriously, though, I think there's a lot of hyperbole surrounding our rebuild (more than the usual optimism after mediocre previous-season results and with little work done yet). Many are not experts on the assistant-coaching ranks, so if you make extraordinary claims you'll be expected by some to provide extraordinary proof. I hope you're right, but I'd rather hear why these hires are good than how they rank in the MVC.
Quote from: Valpower on April 29, 2023, 01:26:51 PM
Quote from: wh on April 27, 2023, 01:02:41 PM
Quote from: beacons23 on April 27, 2023, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: wh on April 26, 2023, 03:05:06 PM
Hands down the highest profile staff in the MVC. It doesn't even need to be researched.
this is laughable
I'm glad I was able to bring a little joy your way. Maybe you would be willing to educate me about all the coach and assistant coach combinations in the MVC that our new staff is inferior to. There must be several for my comment to be laughable.
That would require research, which you forbade. ;) Seriously, though, I think there's a lot of hyperbole surrounding our rebuild (more than the usual optimism after mediocre previous-season results and with little work done yet). Many are not experts on the assistant-coaching ranks, so if you make extraordinary claims you'll be expected by some to provide extraordinary proof. I hope you're right, but I'd rather hear why these hires are good than how they rank in the MVC.
Yeah, I'm probably not going to undertake a research project to support a message board comment. I will say that I believe our new staff has some that credentials that pretty clearly stand above the rest, starting with a head coach that played and coached on final 4 teams, has intimate working knowledge of the most prolific offense in college basketball, was tutored by one the nation's most highly respected coaches in the business who turned an average mid-major program into a national powerhouse, who played professional basketball, who oozes charisma, etc. The assistants are impressive in their own right. Obviously, where they lag behind everyone is no proven results -yet. Time will tell whether impressive credentials result in equally impressive results. There you go.
What about grad assistant positions? Have those been filled yet?
Quote from: tiny707 on April 30, 2023, 07:30:45 AM
What about grad assistant positions? Have those been filled yet?
No. Thomas and Tevonn are now off the site.
Quote from: vu72 on April 30, 2023, 07:40:44 AM
Quote from: tiny707 on April 30, 2023, 07:30:45 AM
What about grad assistant positions? Have those been filled yet?
No. Thomas and Tevonn are now off the site.
https://twitter.com/RogerPowellJr/status/1652645565262430209/photo/1
Interesting interview. New.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yy4OCX_Pm0c&feature=share
Seems like we are still short 1 assistant.
#1...
Kylen Butler, who was the Special Assistant to the Head Coach, has moved on to work with Marty Simmons at Eastern Illinois, so we are down one assistant coach. He had previous experience working alongside Coach Simmons in his time at Clemson, where Simmons was an assistant with Brad Brownell.
https://eiupanthers.com/news/2023/6/12/kylen-butler-joins-eiu-mens-basketball-coaching-staff.aspx
Quote from: valporun on June 13, 2023, 08:37:51 AM
Kylen Butler, who was the Special Assistant to the Head Coach, has moved on to work with Marty Simmons at Eastern Illinois, so we are down one assistant coach. He had previous experience working alongside Coach Simmons in his time at Clemson, where Simmons was an assistant with Brad Brownell.
https://eiupanthers.com/news/2023/6/12/kylen-butler-joins-eiu-mens-basketball-coaching-staff.aspx
To be clear, Kylen Butler was not an assistant coach. The assistant coaches are Baldwin, Gordon and Moye.
PK, But is there another one coming?
Specifically Lubos