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Title: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VU2014 on April 28, 2017, 02:23:32 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/858038123468599296
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/858038983737184258
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/858040203277160453

Marten Linssen
Position: PF
Height: 6'8" - 6'9"
Wingspan: 7'1"
Weight: 242 - 250lbs. (depends on the website)
Nationality: GERMAN
Birth:
30 Aug 1998 (age 18)
Current Team   :   Bayer Giants Leverkusen
Current League   :   Germany: Pro A

STATS: http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Marten-Linssen/Summary/98009

Season   Team                           League   GP   GS   MIN   FGM   FGA   FG%   3PM   3PA   3P%   FTM   FTA   FT%   OFF   DEF   TRB   AST   STL   BLK   PF
2015-16   Bayer Giants Leverkusen   Pro A   3   0   4.7   0.33   1.33   .250   0.00   0.00   .000   0.00   0.00   .000   0.00   1.00   1.00   0.00   0.00   0.33   1.33
2016-17   Bayer Giants Leverkusen   Pro B   22   4   12.2   1.59   3.82   .417   0.05   0.18   .250   1.18   1.73   .684   1.09   2.36   3.45   0.64   0.32   0.68   2.64

http://www.fiba.com/europe/u18/2016/Marten-LINSSEN
http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/gamecent/p/pid/6085772/playerview.html
http://basketball.eurobasket.com/player/Marten-Linssen/Germany/Bayer-Giants-Leverkusen/354247

https://twitter.com/GermanProspects/status/846321447987499008
https://twitter.com/JBaehren5/status/852800424411136000


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPbZbiFyJQg&t=229s

I believe he is #12 in this game: (EDIT: I don't see him in the vid. I thought I saw him in warmups.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjWEaZ3dEjo
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: vu72 on April 28, 2017, 02:37:49 PM
MORE INFO!!  How big?  Can he play immediately?  Position?
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: vu72 on April 28, 2017, 02:47:14 PM
I think that is translated "Linssen.  I found him listed 6'9" 242# and is listed as a center.  I suspect he will play PF for Valpo.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: oklahomamick on April 28, 2017, 02:50:43 PM
I heard he was only coming to Valpo to play in the MVC.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VU2014 on April 28, 2017, 03:01:58 PM
We need to get a few of the German students to have their own student broadcast of the game! Would be awesome to hear a student broadcast games in German.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: vu72 on April 28, 2017, 03:07:24 PM
Looks to be pretty athletic and can block shots!!
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: M on April 28, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
He looks like a much more athletic version of that dude that played for Green Bay a few years back....I can't remember his name.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: talksalot on April 28, 2017, 03:19:31 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 28, 2017, 02:23:32 PMI believe he is #12 in this game:


If so, I just watched it... he never took off the warm-ups in that game against Spain...
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: NativeCheesehead on April 28, 2017, 03:35:06 PM
In Lottich we trust. Anyone else notice how good this team could be in 18-19? Nothing against Max, but you only lose one major contributor. No matter what conference we're in we should be stupid good.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: vu72 on April 28, 2017, 03:40:16 PM
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on April 28, 2017, 03:35:06 PM
In Lottich we trust. Anyone else notice how good this team could be in 18-19? Nothing against Max, but you only lose one major contributor. No matter what conference we're in we should be stupid good.

And that Tevonn kid.  :(
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: valpopal on April 28, 2017, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: vu72 on April 28, 2017, 03:07:24 PM
Looks to be pretty athletic and can block shots!!


Big, strong, with good hands. I liked the film clip where he rebounded on one end and ran the court to get a pass to make the shot at the other end. Amazed by the size of this team, especially for someone like me, who remembers teams from the 80s like the one that beat Notre Dame and the tallest player was Paul Ford, 6'7" or probably more accurately 6'6"!
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: talksalot on April 28, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 28, 2017, 03:46:18 PMPaul Ford, 6'7" or probably more accurately 6'6"!


Jim Ford, but who's counting.   Anyway... do these international kids still sign an NLI?  if so, is there a signing period?   Just curious.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: valpopal on April 28, 2017, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: talksalot on April 28, 2017, 03:49:06 PM
Quote from: valpopal on April 28, 2017, 03:46:18 PMPaul Ford, 6'7" or probably more accurately 6'6"!


Jim Ford, but who's counting.   Anyway... do these international kids still sign an NLI?  if so, is there a signing period?   Just curious.


Ah, yes, JIM Ford.... Shows how long ago that my memory has faded. Thanks!
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: hailcrusaders on April 28, 2017, 04:03:54 PM
Quote from: M on April 28, 2017, 03:11:04 PMHe looks like a much more athletic version of that dude that played for Green Bay a few years back....I can't remember his name.

Jordan Fouse? The other unathletic big from Green Bay that comes to mind is Alec Brown, but keep in mind that Brown was 7'1" C and Linssen is 6'9" PF
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: valpotx on April 28, 2017, 04:08:01 PM
Geez, we are going to be BIG!  This is going to be an exciting next 3-4 seasons, until we get some more solid recruits on a yearly basis. 
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: talksalot on April 28, 2017, 04:10:18 PM
Let's see.... it helps to be tall to see out of a Valley... but you can be short and see the Horizon...   just sayin...
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FWalum on April 28, 2017, 05:09:12 PM
Really like what I saw in the one video.  Big body, decent moves and a nice stroke.  Here is a link to the FIBA profile site.  Not a lot of info but some interesting personal items. http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/player/p/pid/130951/sid/12368/tid/288/_/2016_FIBA_U18_European_Championship_Division_A/index.html (http://archive.fiba.com/pages/eng/fa/player/p/pid/130951/sid/12368/tid/288/_/2016_FIBA_U18_European_Championship_Division_A/index.html)
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: M on April 28, 2017, 05:15:43 PM
Brennan Cougill I think is who I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VUOR63 on April 28, 2017, 05:21:44 PM
Looks like a good player--better to see Lottich get the recruiting haul.  My understanding is that Germans drink beer like water.  Might want to remind him that the drinking age is 21 and minor consumption gets you a night in the slammer.  I bet Sorrolla can let him know...
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: a3uge on April 28, 2017, 05:51:38 PM
That's the most athletic fat 6'9 player I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 28, 2017, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: valpotx on April 28, 2017, 04:08:01 PM
Geez, we are going to be BIG!  This is going to be an exciting next 3-4 seasons, until we get some more solid recruits on a yearly basis.

Do we need (7) players fighting for the minutes that (2) positions have to offer (SF or PF)?

BURTON
FAZEKAS
HAZEN
MCMILLAN
GERMANY
KISER
LEVINGSTON-SIMON (walk on)

Even after Max and Tevonn graduate after 2017/18, we still have (7) players fighting for (2) starting spots in 2018/19.

It's a recipe for transfers, but boy oh boy will it be a competition for the minutes at PF and SF.


Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: justducky on April 28, 2017, 08:44:00 PM
Quote from: M on April 28, 2017, 05:15:43 PMBrennan Cougill I think is who I was thinking of.
Looks like a good comparison. I liked Cougill. He could play the 4 and 5. He could hit some 3's and his defense was good even when Rowdy shot that game winning 3 over him!  :thumbsup: If this kid can develop into another Cougill then he will be a versatile find and another option for some moments of a double low post action.



But unfortunately I don't see him being a great help for 17-18 and I saw no 3 point shot attempts. If Hazen can not provide some outside shooting at the 4 position then next season may require a much changed offensive approach. For this approach to work our outside shooting from the 1, the 2, and the 3 positions had better be deadly.

Kiser must develop his 3 point shooting to maintain some piece of the action.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: valpo64 on April 28, 2017, 09:04:39 PM
I have heard that Hazen's weakness is his outside shooting.  In an interview early in the past season, he mentioned that he was working hard to improve his outside game, mentioning that Alec would be graduating  I hope his practice  has improved that part of his game.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: agibson on April 28, 2017, 09:32:33 PM
So Linsseen plays for Leverkusen: big German sports club with pro soccer, probably pro basketball, etc. Typical European setup. What do you think or chances are of clearinghouse delays? How did we do with Fumey?
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: justducky on April 28, 2017, 09:52:21 PM
Quote from: agibson on April 28, 2017, 09:32:33 PMSo Linsseen plays for Leverkusen: big German sports club with pro soccer, probably pro basketball, etc. Typical European setup. What do you think or chances are of clearinghouse delays? How did we do with Fumey?
Fumey could stand mid court in street clothes with the best of them. Unfortunately that was the highlight of his VU career. Sat a year- then gone back to Europe.   :banghead:
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: a3uge on April 28, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Cougill was so fat he couldn't jump 3 in off the ground. This guy can throw it down.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: agibson on April 28, 2017, 10:00:46 PM
Quote from: a3uge on April 28, 2017, 09:55:38 PM
Cougill was so fat he couldn't jump 3 in off the ground. This guy can throw it down.

What was Big Lumber's real name?
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 28, 2017, 10:04:05 PM
Quote from: agibson on April 28, 2017, 09:32:33 PM
So Linsseen plays for Leverkusen: big German sports club with pro soccer, probably pro basketball, etc. Typical European setup. What do you think or chances are of clearinghouse delays? How did we do with Fumey?

This next year will be quite a test for the coaching staff trying to get all these young players to put forth a good product.

I almost think a 20 when season next year is more impressive than his first year, assuming that can I happen.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: agibson on April 28, 2017, 10:05:51 PM
Looks like Linssen played just a few games for Bayer last season, when they were relegated. Seems they are the German club with the most national championships, storied history and such, but had to give up their first division license about ten years ago when Bayer (think aspirin) cut their funding way back to focus on the soccer. They dropped to the third division for restructuring, got promoted up to the second, and this season back down to the third.

Looks like Lissen's played just about every game this season, about 12 MPG about 8th in the rotation. Top half of the southern group in the German 3rd division. With some B teams like Bayern Munchen II. Playing with men, pros and semi-pros and probably some other amateurs. Hopefully helps the transition to the college game. I've never understood how the pro thing works, but hopefully the NCAA has it figured out by now. Presumably he's ok as long as he didn't take a salary?
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: M on April 28, 2017, 10:51:46 PM
The Cougill comparison is more appearance related then anything then anything else.

Leek can shoot and hit threes. I would think that one of those guys on that list will redshirt, no?
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VUBBFan on April 28, 2017, 11:15:07 PM
Hope this kid clears the NCAA ok. From the videos he looks like a big strong POWER Forward. I like his defense and rebounding. Looks like he can RUN the floor and handle the ball well. Don't care if he can shoot the 3 or not, but seems like he can hit the 2s. Let someone else concentrate on the 3s. Let him crash the boards rebound and block shots. He may be a real steal. Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: wh on April 29, 2017, 08:13:19 AM
Linssen continues Valparaiso's European connection

http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/college/valparaiso-university/linssen-continues-valparaiso-s-european-connection/article_8dd099ce-1085-5b7d-a785-d6cd25e32f4e.html

Matt Lottich put the finishing touches on the Valparaiso men's basketball roster for the upcoming 2017-18 season. Where the Crusaders will be playing next season is still up for debate.

A source close to the situation confirmed that Marten Linssen verbally committed to the Crusaders on Thursday morning. Linssen played for the German national team in the 2016 U18 European championships and plays with Bayer Giants Leverkusen in ProB, a professional league in Germany.

Linssen is expected to file his national letter of intent over the weekend. NCAA rules prohibit Lottich or the Valparaiso coaching staff from commenting on Linssen until his paperwork has been submitted.

The 6-foot-9, 265-pound center plays under assistant coach Hansi Gnad with Bayer. Gnad was a coach with the Dusseldorf Giants in 2009 when Lottich played for the club.

Linssen averaged 4.4 points and 3.5 rebounds in just over 12 minutes during his 22 games with Bayer this past season. Linssen averaged 12.8 points and 8.9 rebounds while playing in the German youth league this year as well.

Linssen joins an incoming class that includes freshmen Milek McMillian (Merrillville) and Parker Hazen (Columbia City) as well as JUCO transfer Markus Golder (North Idaho) and Providence transfer Ryan Fazekas. Transfers Bakari Evelyn (Nebraska) and Joe Burton (Oklahoma State) will be eligible after sitting out last season due to NCAA transfer guidelines. Linssen is expected to enter Valparaiso as a freshman and have four years of immediate eligibility.

The only change that could shift Valparaiso's roster in the coming months is if rising senior Tevonn Walker decides to keep his name in the upcoming NBA Draft. Walker was one of 137 collegiate underclassmen that declared for the draft. Walker has until May 24 to decide to keep his name in the draft or return to school.

Another change that could be coming to Valparaiso is a possible move to the Missouri Valley Conference. Representatives from the Valley were on campus this week for a second site visit in the last four years. The conference considered Valparaiso in 2013 when Creighton left the league before settling on Loyola. The Valley released a statement earlier this month stating they would have no comment on its expansion plans during the process. The Valparaiso athletics department stated it had no comment when asked earlier this week about the site visit or if the school was considering a move from the Horizon League.


Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FWalum on April 29, 2017, 01:47:32 PM
Quote from: wh on April 29, 2017, 08:13:19 AMThe 6-foot-9, 265-pound center plays under assistant coach Hansi Gnad with Bayer. Gnad was a coach with the Dusseldorf Giants in 2009 when Lottich played for the club.
This means a lot when looking at this deal.  Lottich knows that this guy can evaluate talent and has worked with this kid.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: agibson on April 29, 2017, 02:41:01 PM
Quote from: FWalum on April 29, 2017, 01:47:32 PM
Quote from: wh on April 29, 2017, 08:13:19 AMThe 6-foot-9, 265-pound center plays under assistant coach Hansi Gnad with Bayer. Gnad was a coach with the Dusseldorf Giants in 2009 when Lottich played for the club.
This means a lot when looking at this deal.  Lottich knows that this guy can evaluate talent and has worked with this kid.

I'm not sure exactly how the coaching carousel shook out, but Dusseldorf was the team that was created to take over Leverkusen's first division license when Bayer backed their funding off from Leverkusen basketball. They only lasted about six years and now the team (Dusseldorf) has folded entirely. I can imagine that a number of folks might have gone from Leverkusen, to Dusseldorf, and then maybe back.

But, yes, having the connection gives you some confidence in the signing.

Should we look for a Japanese player next?
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: wh on April 29, 2017, 03:17:58 PM
Quote from: FWalum on April 29, 2017, 01:47:32 PM
Quote from: wh on April 29, 2017, 08:13:19 AMThe 6-foot-9, 265-pound center plays under assistant coach Hansi Gnad with Bayer. Gnad was a coach with the Dusseldorf Giants in 2009 when Lottich played for the club.
This means a lot when looking at this deal.  Lottich knows that this guy can evaluate talent and has worked with this kid.

It may well be that someone from the coaching staff flew to Germany and watched him workout, met with him, talked to his coaches, etcIt's not that expensive and well within the realm of possibility with the special $2 Million donor contribution earmarked exclusively for recruiting. That gives us a significant recruiting advantage over other mids.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
I'm not going to go back and quote it, but somebody said something about us having too many people at the center/PF positions.   

I think this means that guys like Burton/Fazeekus/McMillen/Golder are all going to be playing 2/3 guard.  I have heard several times McMillen was out of position at Merillville.  I also seem to remember Burton wanting to play the 3.

Not sure it is as crowded as some think.  Could be we are going to be playing some very tall lineups with some taller than normal wings here in a few years. 
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 29, 2017, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
I'm not going to go back and quote it, but somebody said something about us having too many people at the center/PF positions.   

I think this means that guys like Burton/Fazeekus/McMillen/Golder are all going to be playing 2/3 guard.  I have heard several times McMillen was out of position at Merillville.  I also seem to remember Burton wanting to play the 3.

Not sure it is as crowded as some think.  Could be we are going to be playing some very tall lineups with some taller than normal wings here in a few years.

Hazen
Burton

Are the only ones quick enough for guarding the SF position.  Not sure McMillan has the lateral speed, but we shall see.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: vu72 on April 29, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 29, 2017, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
I'm not going to go back and quote it, but somebody said something about us having too many people at the center/PF positions.   

I think this means that guys like Burton/Fazeekus/McMillen/Golder are all going to be playing 2/3 guard.  I have heard several times McMillen was out of position at Merillville.  I also seem to remember Burton wanting to play the 3.

Not sure it is as crowded as some think.  Could be we are going to be playing some very tall lineups with some taller than normal wings here in a few years.

Hazen
Burton

Are the only ones quick enough for guarding the SF position.  Not sure McMillan has the lateral speed, but we shall see.

I would think that Golder is plenty quick enough to play the 2/3.  Where else would he play??
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on April 29, 2017, 07:56:59 PM
Quote from: vu72 on April 29, 2017, 06:20:27 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on April 29, 2017, 06:02:09 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on April 29, 2017, 05:10:58 PM
I'm not going to go back and quote it, but somebody said something about us having too many people at the center/PF positions.   

I think this means that guys like Burton/Fazeekus/McMillen/Golder are all going to be playing 2/3 guard.  I have heard several times McMillen was out of position at Merillville.  I also seem to remember Burton wanting to play the 3.

Not sure it is as crowded as some think.  Could be we are going to be playing some very tall lineups with some taller than normal wings here in a few years.

Hazen
Burton

Are the only ones quick enough for guarding the SF position.  Not sure McMillan has the lateral speed, but we shall see.

I would think that Golder is plenty quick enough to play the 2/3.  Where else would he play??

I'm only talking about players that are slotted to play PF/SF.  Golder "could" play the SF with his size.  But I'm doubting we see him there much with our overload of F on the team.

But Golder and Burton can be this years Hammink.  Great to have depth!!!
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: bbtds on April 30, 2017, 11:09:28 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on April 28, 2017, 03:01:58 PM
We need to get a few of the German students to have their own student broadcast of the game! Would be awesome to hear a student broadcast games in German.

Angemessen. 

Steh Auf für die Uhlanen!

Die Kämpft Uhlanen!




https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulanen




Appropriate

Stand up for the Uhlans!

The Fighting Uhlans!
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: bbtds on May 01, 2017, 03:05:42 AM
Quote from: agibson on April 29, 2017, 02:41:01 PMI'm not sure exactly how the coaching carousel shook out, but Dusseldorf was the team that was created to take over Leverkusen's first division license when Bayer backed their funding off from Leverkusen basketball. They only lasted about six years and now the team (Dusseldorf) has folded entirely. I can imagine that a number of folks might have gone from Leverkusen, to Dusseldorf, and then maybe back.

Looking at a German map---Leverkusen is a suburb of Cologne (Köln) and Düsseldorf.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FWalum on May 01, 2017, 08:14:16 AM
Quote from: bbtds on May 01, 2017, 03:05:42 AM
Quote from: agibson on April 29, 2017, 02:41:01 PMI'm not sure exactly how the coaching carousel shook out, but Dusseldorf was the team that was created to take over Leverkusen's first division license when Bayer backed their funding off from Leverkusen basketball. They only lasted about six years and now the team (Dusseldorf) has folded entirely. I can imagine that a number of folks might have gone from Leverkusen, to Dusseldorf, and then maybe back.

Looking at a German map---Leverkusen is a suburb of Cologne (Köln) and Düsseldorf.

I am not familiar with that area at all.  Relatives live in the Ulm area so we have mainly visited southern Germany, even though I can't understand a lick of schwabisch.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: bbtds on May 01, 2017, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: FWalum on May 01, 2017, 08:14:16 AM
Quote from: bbtds on May 01, 2017, 03:05:42 AM
Quote from: agibson on April 29, 2017, 02:41:01 PMI'm not sure exactly how the coaching carousel shook out, but Dusseldorf was the team that was created to take over Leverkusen's first division license when Bayer backed their funding off from Leverkusen basketball. They only lasted about six years and now the team (Dusseldorf) has folded entirely. I can imagine that a number of folks might have gone from Leverkusen, to Dusseldorf, and then maybe back.

Looking at a German map---Leverkusen is a suburb of Cologne (Köln) and Düsseldorf.

I am not familiar with that area at all.  Relatives live in the Ulm area so we have mainly visited southern Germany, even though I can't understand a lick of schwabisch.

My grandmother used to prepare that potato salad. She called it schwabischer Kartoffelsalat. I used to say "What?"

http://allrecipes.com/recipe/221344/schwabischer-kartoffelsalat-german-potato-salad---schwabisch-style/
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VULB#62 on May 01, 2017, 01:12:51 PM
Schwabischer Kartoffelsalat. AKA German Potato Sald, served warm, is big up here in WI at Friday night fish frys.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VU2014 on May 01, 2017, 01:35:33 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859112399126888448
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859112541275947008
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859112724428730368
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859112941223849988
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859113118244499458
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: agibson on May 01, 2017, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 01, 2017, 01:12:51 PMhttp://allrecipes.com/recipe/221344/schwabischer-kartoffelsalat-german-potato-salad---schwabisch-style/

I'm very familiar with the salad (Wisconsin, and various German-American relatives) but don't know if I've ever heard it referred to as Schwabisch. Interesting.

I do much prefer it to the mayonnaise kind.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VULB#62 on May 01, 2017, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 01, 2017, 01:35:33 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859112541275947008
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859112724428730368

He said the magic words -- for me at least: rebounding, defense, hustle and will. Sounds like a lunch pail kind of scrapper.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: vu72 on May 01, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 01, 2017, 01:35:33 PMHe said the magic words -- for me at least: rebounding, defense, hustle and will. Sounds like a lunch pail kind of scrapper.
Re

Perhaps a bigger, more athletic version of Kevin Van Wijk!
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VULB#62 on May 01, 2017, 04:29:31 PM
Wouldn't that be great!
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on May 01, 2017, 04:33:36 PM
Quote from: vu72 on May 01, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 01, 2017, 01:35:33 PMHe said the magic words -- for me at least: rebounding, defense, hustle and will. Sounds like a lunch pail kind of scrapper.
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Perhaps a bigger, more athletic version of Kevin Van Wijk!

Is anything official?  Not seeing anything announcing this other than "heard it from a guy".
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FWalum on May 01, 2017, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 01, 2017, 04:33:36 PM
Quote from: vu72 on May 01, 2017, 03:40:02 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 01, 2017, 01:35:33 PMHe said the magic words -- for me at least: rebounding, defense, hustle and will. Sounds like a lunch pail kind of scrapper.
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Perhaps a bigger, more athletic version of Kevin Van Wijk!

Is anything official?  Not seeing anything announcing this other than "heard it from a guy".
Haven't seen an official announcement, but Oren doesn't print rumors so I think the article pretty much makes it "official".  I doubt the kid would have talked to him if something definite wasn't in the works.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VU2014 on May 01, 2017, 05:53:33 PM
Coaches can't talk about a player until he official signs his letter of intent and all the paper work is turned in.

Didn't Paul mention that he was suppose do the paper-work this past weekend or something? They are probably just waiting till its official with the NCAA.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: justducky on May 01, 2017, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: a3uge on April 28, 2017, 05:51:38 PMThat's the most athletic fat 6'9 player I've ever seen.

Seems like this isn't exactly the type player we were looking for. Not even close. Instead we decided that this was the guy we had to have  :o, and the fact it was our last scholarship quickly diminished in importance.

Rightly or wrongly I will associate and compare this guy to the Taylor Bruninga offer that we never quite brought ourselves to make. The progression and ultimate developments for both should be a lot of fun to watch. Lets hope both will be great credits to themselves and their chosen institutions.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: a3uge on May 01, 2017, 06:57:08 PM
Quote from: justducky on May 01, 2017, 06:54:41 PM
Quote from: a3uge on April 28, 2017, 05:51:38 PMThat's the most athletic fat 6'9 player I've ever seen.

Seems like this isn't exactly the type player we were looking for. Not even close. Instead we decided that this was the guy we had to have  :o, and the fact it was our last scholarship quickly diminished in importance.

Rightly or wrongly I will associate and compare this guy to the Taylor Bruninga offer that we never quite brought ourselves to make. The progression and ultimate developments for both should be a lot of fun to watch. Lets hope both will be great credits to themselves and their chosen institutions.  [emoji106]

DAS HAMMER > soft local kid
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: valporun on May 02, 2017, 08:20:52 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on May 01, 2017, 02:35:39 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 01, 2017, 01:35:33 PM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859112541275947008
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/859112724428730368

He said the magic words -- for me at least: rebounding, defense, hustle and will. Sounds like a lunch pail kind of scrapper.

A different level of basketball maturity, and knows what wins games more than scoring averages.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: crusader05 on May 02, 2017, 05:15:11 PM
Lots of good info coming in about Marten on Paul and Michael's twitter feed. 2 things I picked up. Lottich has had his eye on this kid for a year and has a good relationship with his coach and rebounding gets mentioned. Makes me think that what Lottich anticipates missing the most next year after losing Alec is not his shooting, but his rebounding ability.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on May 02, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: crusader05 on May 02, 2017, 05:15:11 PM
Lots of good info coming in about Marten on Paul and Michael's twitter feed. 2 things I picked up. Lottich has had his eye on this kid for a year and has a good relationship with his coach and rebounding gets mentioned. Makes me think that what Lottich anticipates missing the most next year after losing Alec is not his shooting, but his rebounding ability.

With this addition I suspect McMillan will red shirt.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VU2014 on May 02, 2017, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 02, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: crusader05 on May 02, 2017, 05:15:11 PM
Lots of good info coming in about Marten on Paul and Michael's twitter feed. 2 things I picked up. Lottich has had his eye on this kid for a year and has a good relationship with his coach and rebounding gets mentioned. Makes me think that what Lottich anticipates missing the most next year after losing Alec is not his shooting, but his rebounding ability.

With this addition I suspect McMillan will red shirt.

I don't think so. I mean you never know but the scholarships seem set/filled and haven't heard any news of anyone redshirting next year other the Fazekas becoming a RS Transfer.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: M on May 02, 2017, 06:31:21 PM
So you want the guy who can shoot from the outside, handle the ball a bit, and has some pretty impressive athleticism to red shirt?
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on May 02, 2017, 06:32:49 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 02, 2017, 06:07:01 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 02, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: crusader05 on May 02, 2017, 05:15:11 PM
Lots of good info coming in about Marten on Paul and Michael's twitter feed. 2 things I picked up. Lottich has had his eye on this kid for a year and has a good relationship with his coach and rebounding gets mentioned. Makes me think that what Lottich anticipates missing the most next year after losing Alec is not his shooting, but his rebounding ability.

With this addition I suspect McMillan will red shirt.

I don't think so. I mean you never know but the scholarships seem set/filled and haven't heard any news of anyone redshirting next year other the Fazekas becoming a RS Transfer.

This is what sparked my comment, could mentions it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/859532548648652800 (https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/859532548648652800)
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FieldGoodie05 on May 02, 2017, 06:35:08 PM
Quote from: M on May 02, 2017, 06:31:21 PM
So you want the guy who can shoot from the outside, handle the ball a bit, and has some pretty impressive athleticism to red shirt?

"Want" and "suspect" are two wildly different statements.

I don't "want" a redshirt but Lottich mentions it in his pressed with Michael Osipoff.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VU2014 on May 02, 2017, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 02, 2017, 06:35:08 PM
Quote from: M on May 02, 2017, 06:31:21 PM
So you want the guy who can shoot from the outside, handle the ball a bit, and has some pretty impressive athleticism to red shirt?

"Want" and "suspect" are two wildly different statements.

I don't "want" a redshirt but Lottich mentions it in his pressed with Michael Osipoff.

Good catch. I didn't notice that.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on May 02, 2017, 06:35:08 PM
Quote from: M on May 02, 2017, 06:31:21 PM
So you want the guy who can shoot from the outside, handle the ball a bit, and has some pretty impressive athleticism to red shirt?

"Want" and "suspect" are two wildly different statements.

I don't "want" a redshirt but Lottich mentions it in his pressed with Michael Osipoff.

I wonder how that will work out... Someone probably won't be happy if they end up having to Red Shirt. Like you said it may end up being on of the young PFs if they end up do Redshirting someone.

Probably will end up being whoever is the most raw and needs a year to get stronger and work on their craft. Or maybe it causes someone to transfer... (hopefully not)
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VULB#62 on May 03, 2017, 09:16:37 AM
More on Linssen

[tweet]859528006607536128[/tweet]
[tweet]859528283817480192[/tweet]
[tweet]859528929702539266[/tweet]
[tweet]859529181989916678[/tweet]
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VULB#62 on May 03, 2017, 10:41:54 AM
This from Mike Osipoff

[tweet]859531174150098944[/tweet]
[tweet]859532138789703680[/tweet]
[tweet]859530021916028928[/tweet]
[tweet]859530324992196608[/tweet]
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: bbtds on May 03, 2017, 12:29:14 PM
German basketball words


Dunk - dunk
Korb - basket
(Spiel)Feld - court
Mannschaft / Team - team
Trainer - coach
Spieler - player
Dreier - three-pointer
Auszeit - time out
Pause - break
Schiedsrichter - referee


Olé Olé Olé für die Kämpfe Uhlanen!
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: FWalum on May 05, 2017, 08:52:43 AM
The description of this video is pretty cool. "This time Derby played an away game at Leverkusen. Leverkusen out rebounded Derby 47 to 26 with Marten Linssen and Benjamin Nick dominating them on the boards."  Also interesting to see that this video is 2 years old
Really liked seeing #12 Linssen's hustle at 0:49.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VU2014 on May 17, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
Jeff Goodman is a little late to the party...

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/864854554772480000
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: bbtds on May 17, 2017, 12:35:54 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on May 17, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
Jeff Goodman is a little late to the party...

https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/864854554772480000

Zumindest kam er auf die Party.


















At least he came to the party.
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: VU2014 on June 07, 2017, 10:09:40 AM
Coach Lottich said Martin Linssen reminded him of a fellow Stanford Alum and former NBA player Mark Madsen. Said "Madsen had an unbelievable motor, great hands, and athletic, and Martin is like that. We probably need to work a little on the skill and he's the type of guy that will rip your arm off to try and get a rebound."

44:25 if you want to listen.
http://www.nwitimes.com/digital/audio/union-street-hoops/podcast-union-street-hoops-episode/audio_c0d3c7b6-47d5-11e7-874c-afc072e48d5f.html

Martin is a big kid. The only player that I can think of that had his type of build in my time at Valpo was Bobby Capobianco, but the "ceiling" seems higher with Linssen and he looks more athletic then Bobby, but they don't come as gritty, tough & physical as Bobby was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6BAvBbqPK4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDu28IUbjjA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1ciMXvSE8U
Title: Re: Per Paul Oren: German U18 NTL Team member Marten Linßen is a VU Verbal Commit
Post by: 4throwfan on June 07, 2017, 01:26:15 PM
In the very brief little video about Linssen, Madsen came to my mind, and it was awesome to me that Coach's comment related to the Mad Dog, and confirmed the similarity.  It really piqued my interest.  That guy was really fun to watch, and I haven't seen it in a while.  If we have a guy on the team that is even a fraction of Madsen, I'm sure he will become a fan favorite fairly quickly, even in garbage minutes (if that's all that he gets), and even if the stats aren't there.