Maybe my prediction of favorite to win the league might be a bit off. Here's a link that sums up the league this year.
http://www.thenetsetblog.com/2013/july/gearing-up-for-ncaa-women-s-season-horizon-league.html (http://www.thenetsetblog.com/2013/july/gearing-up-for-ncaa-women-s-season-horizon-league.html)
Oh, and according to RichKern.com, Valpo has two 2014 commits.
The biggest key is simple - can Morganne Longoria step right in at libero from day one? Asking her to come in and replace 100% of Taylor Root's production/quality at libero right away is way too much to ask, but if she can start from day one and be above-average at the position, the squad will be in great shape this season.
I think our consistency at the libero position has been a huge part of this program's success over the last decade-plus. Sara Silcox was solid for her final three seasons at libero, once the position became part of the game in 2002. Brittany Malicoat then came in, earned the starting role halfway through her freshman year, and was stellar for the next 3 1/2 years. Then, of course, Taylor was amazing at the position all four years.
As per Vapo's volleyball website, they have brought in transfer Nicole Lambert from Radford. That brings the total of new faces to 8. A total of 17 on the roster would make me think someone's gotta redshirt. Just wondering who?
How often has Coach Avery redshirted anyone for reasons that weren't injury-related? I'm not sure that volleyball does a lot of redshirting for the sake of development for a magical 4th and 5th year for that player.
Here's another interesting thing. NCAA allows for 15 free rides and they can't be divided up. So two have to pay? Can't see that happening. The math doesn't add up.
They usually have some players that don't play ever, that are walk-ons
We were picked first this year in preseason polling:
http://valpoathletics.com/volleyball/news/2013-14/12850/crusader-volleyball-tabbed-atop-horizon-league/ (http://valpoathletics.com/volleyball/news/2013-14/12850/crusader-volleyball-tabbed-atop-horizon-league/)
Is this the first time we have been picked first in any sport? I don't believe that men's basketball was picked first in either of the last 2 seasons.
Quote from: valpotx on August 22, 2013, 02:50:20 PM
We were picked first this year in preseason polling:
http://valpoathletics.com/volleyball/news/2013-14/12850/crusader-volleyball-tabbed-atop-horizon-league/ (http://valpoathletics.com/volleyball/news/2013-14/12850/crusader-volleyball-tabbed-atop-horizon-league/)
Is this the first time we have been picked first in any sport? I don't believe that men's basketball was picked first in either of the last 2 seasons.
Yeah we were:
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2012-13/12050/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-broekhoff-van-wijk-first-team-selections/ (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2012-13/12050/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-broekhoff-van-wijk-first-team-selections/)
Alrighty then
Toot Toot! Sorry, couldn't resist.
Massey has the Lady Volleyballers 2nd in the Horizon to start the season. Come late September when the Horizon League schedule starts, it will be interesting to see where this team is ranked.
http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=3339&s=201465 (http://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=3339&s=201465)
TG for volleyball because the rest of our fall sports teams are suspect. Hell, football will be at or near the bottom the Pioneer League and our soccer programs will be at best middle of the pack. So bring on bowling :bowdown:
Well setshot, you may have spoken just a little too soon, :o as Valpo women just knocked off Big East DePaul, 1-0 in women's soccer!!
Off to a great start with two wins, host Central Florida and Arkansas Pine Bluff.
Volleyball has opened up 4-0 with a sweep and snagging the UCF tournament. Way to go ladies!
Quote from: vuweathernerd on August 31, 2013, 06:46:38 PM
Volleyball has opened up 4-0 with a sweep and snagging the UCF tournament. Way to go ladies!
Hopefully a good sign for this season.
It seems that we have quite a bit of depth, and beat a UCF team that is usually decent. I have high hopes of returning to the NCAA tournament!
Interesting to note that the Volleyball team has neon green jerseys as well (Men's Soccer has worn them already). I wonder if that is now an alternate jersey for all teams, to give us a uniform option that is more 'new age?'
Unfortunately I believe there will only be one team coming from the Horizon (again) to the dance unless a team has only a couple of losses for the season. Strength of schedule really hurts the chances.
Quote from: valpotx on September 01, 2013, 06:03:32 PM
It seems that we have quite a bit of depth, and beat a UCF team that is usually decent. I have high hopes of returning to the NCAA tournament!
Interesting to note that the Volleyball team has neon green jerseys as well (Men's Soccer has worn them already). I wonder if that is now an alternate jersey for all teams, to give us a uniform option that is more 'new age?'
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It the "acccent" color used on all Valpo stuff or at least Nile's interpretation!
Right, I knew that it was added a few years ago, but I didn't think that we would have all neon green jerseys just a few years later
Dooms wins the first HL POTW award for volleyball:
http://www.valpoathletics.com/volleyball/news/2013-14/12873/dooms-claims-weekly-league-honor/ (http://www.valpoathletics.com/volleyball/news/2013-14/12873/dooms-claims-weekly-league-honor/)
If it wasn't a NIKE influence on uniform marketing for jersey colors, and "making the sale", then who at Valpo decided that some of our Olympic sports teams should have alternative jerseys including the neon green accent from the university letterhead scheme?
Excellent new intro video for Volleyball!
2013 Valpo Volleyball Intro Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0t8sHfgR_k#)
Awesome video! I miss going to those games as a student.
Great to see the team go 2-0 yesterday and a good crowd for the second match. BIG 10 foe Iowa today. Gonna have to go to another level to win.
Quote from: original sin on September 07, 2013, 09:11:21 AM
Great to see the team go 2-0 yesterday and a good crowd for the second match. BIG 10 foe Iowa today. Gonna have to go to another level to win.
Celebrating the winning point last night!
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Valpo beat Iowa in a thrilling 3-1 match tonight to win the tournament title. IIRC, this is the second straight year the team has beaten a Big Ten team (Indiana last year). The website also says this matches the best start in program history. Congrats ladies!
Great start to the season and a fantastic intro video. "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark" seems more-or-less like the go-to intro music. I've heard a lot of teams in different sports use it already in 2013. Keep it going, ladies!
The Iowa win was against a very experienced team from probably the best conference in the country. Eight Big Ten teams are ranked in the top 25 with another receiving votes. While Iowa isn't one of those I would think if they can get some wins in conference it could lead us to getting some votes down the line.
I don't want to be Debbie Downer here but I think we need some perspective. I watched the Iowa match and the Hawkeyes have great spikers. They were not like other Big Ten teams on making digs. Valpo really came out against Iowa strong and their play at the net was extremely good. Iowa finished 2-18 in the Big Ten, dead last last year. It was a great win for Valpo. But I'm not sure it was any better than winning a Horizon League tournament and getting to the NCAA tournament. Which I think this Valpo volleyball squad will do this year.
Despite work, Popcorn Festival activities, a last summer visit to the beach, and other family events, I managed to watch three of the volleyball matches, and I was impressed by the team, especially against Iowa since that was their fourth match in two days, while the other teams only played three. The Valpo players must have been depleted by the end of the tournament.
In addition to appreciating their good play, the team is a pleasure to watch because they are constantly displaying energy, enthusiasm, and enjoyment. I have finally had time and posted a set of 35 photos from the tournament to Valpo Sports Photography, including the two below. They can be viewed at the following: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157635438520961/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157635438520961/)
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... and congratulations to Morgan Beil, Popcorn Festival Tournament MVP:
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... and a salute to #6 Kelsey Victor, Horizon League Defensive Player of the Week:
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Quote from: valpopal on September 09, 2013, 08:30:51 PM
... and a salute to #6 Kelsey Victor, Horizon League Defensive Player of the Week:
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I have no idea what your background is or anything else about you. So I'll just say this: your photography is as good as any I have ever seen, and, you should be nominated for a Pulitzer!! Nicely done!
Quote from: vu72 on September 09, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
Quote from: valpopal on September 09, 2013, 08:30:51 PM
... and a salute to #6 Kelsey Victor, Horizon League Defensive Player of the Week:
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I have no idea what your background is or anything else about you. So I'll just say this: your photography is as good as any I have ever seen, and, you should be nominated for a Pulitzer!! Nicely done!
Thanks very much! The photography is just a hobby I do for fun, though I donate my time and work for some nonprofit organizations. Your comment is much appreciated.
Unfortunately their out of conference schedule lacks the top tier teams needed (except Ohio State) to have victories over to make it as an at-large team. For example, I don't see Cleveland St. making it last year if they didn't win the conference tournament.
It will be almost impossible for a HLVB team to earn an at-large bid - the bottom half of the conference really drags down the RPI. Look back to our first year in the league, 2007, when we knocked off Milwaukee in the league semis. That loss dropped Milwaukee to 26-3 (other losses to Wisconsin and Cleveland State), no at-large bid for them.
There is such a large difference between the good teams (Valpo) and the elite in volleyball (Nebraska, UCLA, UT, Penn State, etc), that conferences like ours will never receive an at-large bid in the sport
2-1 this weekend. Really rolling now. NOW comes the litmus test this upcoming weekend with Valpo being the small fish in a big pond. Buffalo undefeated and Ohio State, a perennial top 15 team. Keep it going ladies!
http://www.valpoathletics.com/volleyball/news/2013-14/12922/volleyball-earns-pair-of-wins-saturday/ (http://www.valpoathletics.com/volleyball/news/2013-14/12922/volleyball-earns-pair-of-wins-saturday/)
After the 3-0 slamming by Memphis on Friday, the volleyball squad rebounded really nicely by routing SIUE and handling Evansville fairly easily 3-1, with the 3 winning sets being 25-17 or 25-18.
Memphis didn't really slam Valpo. 21-25, 28-30 and 18-25
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 15, 2013, 02:37:48 PM
Memphis didn't really slam Valpo. 21-25, 28-30 and 18-25
If Valpo had beat Evansville by those scores wouldn't you consider that a slamming? Any time in volleyball you beat a team 3 sets to none I consider that a slamming unless all sets go beyond 25 points.
1-2 this weekend. The loss to OSU was kind of expected but thought the Buffalo match coulda/shoulda been won.
Quote from: original sin on September 22, 2013, 07:22:40 AM
1-2 this weekend. The loss to OSU was kind of expected but thought the Buffalo match coulda/shoulda been won.
I watched the Buffalo match, and Valpo started well, winning the first game easily. However, Buffalo is a very strong team, which is why they were undefeated (12-0) before losing to Ohio State in the tournament. Buffalo was also the home team, and the crowd was loudly into the play, especially in the later games.
In addition, there seemed to be a couple of strange decisions by the officials that created conflict with Valpo, causing the fans to become even more vocal and vociferous against the visiting team. I believe some of the Valpo players were angry and emotionally upset by the situation. In the end, I think losses to Ohio State and Buffalo on the road should not deter the team, perhaps will even toughen them for conference play.
VB starts the HL season by beating UIC 3-1 (25-20, 25-17, 19-25, 25-16). A nice away game win.
Tremendous 3-2 comeback victory for Valpo in the Horizon League home opener against Green Bay. The team started the evening as flat as possible and lost the first set 9-25. They were also behind in sets 2-1 before winning the final two sets in tense and exciting fashion, 25-23 and 18-16. As my photo from tonight shows, these women have lots of fun playing together, and they are great fun to watch!
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The women showed great character in their comeback victory against Green Bay last night, even after being down to facing a match point for the loss. I have now entered a set of 20 pictures, including the two below, from the evening in my photo archive at the following: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157636215543703/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157636215543703/)
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The women take it on the chin from Milwaukee, 3-0 at the ARC. Really bad as they actually only got 5 points in the first game. They played pretty bad against Green Bay and barely won it in 5, now this. Something is not going right.
I couldn't make it to the Milwaukee match today, but I did watch it online. Valpo started flat just as they had against Green Bay yesterday, and that is the only part that appears to not be right. However, on Friday the Crusaders managed to come back strong enough to win 3 of the final 4 sets. The loss to Valpo is Green Bay''s only blemish in the league thus far, since they are now 3-1. In fact, they beat an admittedly weak UIC team today in three straight sets.
Today, that repeat of a poor first set seemed to strengthen Milwaukee's confidence. Still, Valpo played well enough to create two tight sets (25-22, 25-19) against a Milwaukee team that may be the best in the league, perhaps along with Cleveland State, at this point and still the only undefeated team at 4-0. Perhaps if Valpo had won the first set they would have had more confidence and less pressure than Milwaukee in the other sets and committed fewer unforced errors.
In any case, the league seems to have some strong teams this year, and Valpo will have difficulty with them. But those teams will have difficulty with Valpo as well. No matter who wins, the road to a league championship should be a good battle all season.
Milwaukee didn't make many mistakes. While Valpo spikes well but they were making errors of "no, you take it" and the sets were too close to the net. Whatever that coach at Milwaukee is doing during practices it's translating to the court extremely well. We also seemed to be getting blocked at the net too easily.
12-4 on the year. Taking two matches this last weekend on a swing through Ohio with one being against Cleveland St. Great job!
Four girls have committed verbally for 2014.
I think you meant that they are 15-4, 4-1 in conference :). Keep it up ladies!
Late notice, but for Indy-area Valpo fans, the game @IUPUI tonight is being telecast locally on the HomeTownSports network, available on most local cable outlets. I'd mention that it's also available (for a fee) online, but I don't want to feel the wrath of vu72 again, like I did for the soccer match! :lol:
Quote from: zvillehaze on October 15, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Late notice, but for Indy-area Valpo fans, the game @IUPUI tonight is being telecast locally on the HomeTownSports network, available on most local cable outlets. I'd mention that it's also available (for a fee) online, but I don't want to feel the wrath of vu72 again, like I did for the soccer match! :lol:
You mean to tell us that the Summit doesn't have free video?? Wow! what has this world come to... :(
VU beats IUPUI 3-2, 19-25, 25 - 23, 19 - 25, 25-23, 16 - 14.
Quote from: vu72 on October 15, 2013, 07:45:38 PMYou mean to tell us that the Summit doesn't have free video?? Wow! what has this world come to...
You are correct, they don't have free video and many of their sports marketing people think that decision was insanely stupid.
Quote from: zvillehaze on October 15, 2013, 05:54:04 PM
Late notice, but for Indy-area Valpo fans, the game @IUPUI tonight is being telecast locally on the HomeTownSports network, available on most local cable outlets. I'd mention that it's also available (for a fee) online, but I don't want to feel the wrath of vu72 again, like I did for the soccer match! :lol:
I actually don't have HTS network on my U-verse. So I wasn't able to see the Valpo at IUPUI volleyball match.
It was good to hear that the Lady Crusaders pulled out the close win over the Lady Jags on the road.
Like the moniker "Cardiac Crusaders".
It seems like the volleyball team loses interest and then kinda wakes up just in time to win or, on occasion, loses matches they should have won. IUPUI is a middle of the pack Summit League team and we barely won. Still, a win is a win!
Quote from: vu72 on October 16, 2013, 06:20:52 AM
It seems like the volleyball team loses interest and then kinda wakes up just in time to win or, on occasion, loses matches they should have won. IUPUI is a middle of the pack Summit League team and we barely won. Still, a win is a win!
I have a feeling that Coach Avery wouldn't totally agree with you.
The volleyball team played well against Oakland last night, winning 3-1 (25-18, 23-25, 25-20, 25-13). I believe it was the first Oakland team to visit Valpo since entering the Horizon League. Sarah Dooms achieved a milestone by getting her 1,000th kill. She also has 1,000 digs, which makes her only the seventh Valpo player to reach both of those marks.
I have uploaded a set of 21 photos from the evening (including the two below), and I invite everyone to check all of them: http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157636720545834/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157636720545834/)
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Great photos, Pal! :)
While yesterday's football was a bummer, the volleyball team won in 3 straight vs. WSU. I understand they also won in 3 sets vs. YSU on Friday. These ladies are VERY good.
Quote from: valpo64 on October 20, 2013, 12:10:46 PM
While yesterday's football was a bummer, the volleyball team won in 3 straight vs. WSU. I understand they also won in 3 sets vs. YSU on Friday. These ladies are VERY good.
Actually 3-1, but who's counting?
Quote from: valpospartan on October 20, 2013, 08:45:27 PM
Quote from: valpo64 on October 20, 2013, 12:10:46 PM
While yesterday's football was a bummer, the volleyball team won in 3 straight vs. WSU. I understand they also won in 3 sets vs. YSU on Friday. These ladies are VERY good.
Actually 3-1, but who's counting?
..and against Oakland rather than YSU, but the ladies are still "VERY good." ;)
sorry...it must be an age thing thanks for getting it straight
Hopefullly, the ladies are starting to put Coach Avery's thoughts on closing a match out early in 3 games, rather than lazily showing up for Game 1, then having to panic to win the match, whether in 4 or 5 games. A lesson that needs to pass to the football team. If I recall, the football team was leading after the 3rd, but then had to play the 4th...
Ellen Vanden Berg named Horizon League Defensive Player of the Week: Congratulations!
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After another slow start this evening, the team came back in an out of conference game on the road to beat a very good Illinois State (15-5 coming into tonight): 15-25, 25-22, 30-28, 25-22. Valpo's record moves to 19-4.
Always a solid team under Avery!
Quote from: valpopal on October 22, 2013, 09:04:39 PM
After another slow start this evening, the team came back in an out of conference game on the road to beat a very good Illinois State (15-5 coming into tonight): 15-25, 25-22, 30-28, 25-22. Valpo's record moves to 19-4.
Illinois State had wins over
IUPUI 3-2
FGCU 3-0
Grand Canyon 3-2
Nevada 3-0
Weber St 3-0
UC Davis 3-2
IPFW 3-0
Evansville 3-0
S. Illinois 3-0
Indiana St 3-0
Loyola 3-1
Bradley 3-0
Wichita St 3-1
Missouri St 3-1
Drake 3-0
The Redbirds have losses to
VCU 1-3
Butler 2-3
Mich St 0-3
Marquette 2-3
N. Iowa 1-3
Valpo 1-3
So this was a very good Illinois St volleyball team Valpo beat on the road.
A little inside humor:
This is Valpo Athletics: Valpo Volleyball (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKJcCAbNIK8#)
that...is pretty good.
Great away win over Milwaukee, 3-1 (25-15, 25-19, 20-25, 30-28): Valpo (22-4, 8-1) now tied in loss column atop the HL conference with the first-place Panthers (13-9, 9-1)!
Quote from: valpopal on November 01, 2013, 09:41:43 PMGreat away win over Milwaukee, 3-1 (25-15, 25-19, 20-25, 30-28): Valpo (22-4, 8-1) now tied in loss column atop the HL conference with the first-place Panthers (13-9, 9-1)!
That was a great win in a tight match with Milwaukee.
That final fourth set was incredibly close with neither side getting more than 3 points ahead. Valpo had 3 match points get turned away by the Panthers. Finally when it was 29-28 Valpo pulled it out. This was the team that had not lost a league match and had beaten Valpo 3 sets to nothing at the ARC.
..........and turn around and lose to GB, a .500 team. Once again the league will have only the tournament champ advance to the Big Dance. Losses like this will prevent the possible at-large bid should Valpo not win the conference tournament.
There was never a chance of an at-large berth. They entered the night with an RPI in the 70's.
Quote from: original sin on November 03, 2013, 05:37:50 AM
..........and turn around and lose to GB, a .500 team. Once again the league will have only the tournament champ advance to the Big Dance. Losses like this will prevent the possible at-large bid should Valpo not win the conference tournament.
I think Green Bay was playing better than Milwaukee on Friday. Like many GB teams they seem to play at lot better on their home courts/fields. Maybe some of the fatigue of playing 2 nights in a row might have got to Valpo.
Each set was close but GB was able to pull out the last 2 when Valpo was wearing down. I believe Valpo did a lot more dinking/tapping the ball over the net in the last 2 sets than going for the kills.
Many of the digs by Valpo's libero, Morganne Longoria, were very impressive and really kept Valpo in the match. Even the Green Bay announcer was impressed by Longoria's play mentioning it several times. Unfortunately even if you keep the ball in play impressively it doesn't mean you win the point.
Going 5 sets with GB on their home court when playing the second night in a row and only losing in the 5th set by 2 points is not a bad performance. Valpo just needed a little extra to get over that 5th set hump and couldn't find it.
In case you were wondering what exactly is a libero I looked it up.
QuoteWhat is the libero?
The volleyball libero is a defensive specialist position in indoor volleyball. The position was added to the game in 1999 along with special rules for play in order to foster more digs and rallies and to make the game more exciting. The libero remains in the game at all times and is the only player not limited by rules of rotation. He usually replaces the middle blocker position when they rotate to the back row and never rotates to the front row himself.
The libero is chosen by the team before the match or tournament and that designated player must remain the libero for the entire match or tournament. If the libero is injured, he/she can be replaced by any player who is not on the court, but that player must remain the libero for the remainder of the match.
Quote from: historyman on November 03, 2013, 09:44:46 AM
QuoteWhat is the libero?
...
The libero is chosen by the team before the match or tournament and that designated player must remain the libero for the entire match or tournament. If the libero is injured, he/she can be replaced by any player who is not on the court, but that player must remain the libero for the remainder of the match.
Quick clarification for college volleyball: The libero designation is submitted with the lineups prior to each set in NCAA volleyball (quoting NCAA Rule 12.1.1), so you can start a different set with a different libero than was used previously. Not that it happens much, but I saw it happen in a match I covered last weekend. In any case, the only scenario for a change
within a set is due to injury.
So even if Milwaukee loses to someone (like against Youngstown)... they still hold the tie breaker, since they beat us 3-0 and we beat them 3-1. They need to lose twice for us to host the HL Tournament.
Quote from: valpopal on October 28, 2013, 05:58:15 PM
A little inside humor:
This is Valpo Athletics: Valpo Volleyball (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKJcCAbNIK8#)
For those of you that don't watch as much TV as me, this was based off of an old sports center commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0iR05lYy1g&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Another uncharacteristic loss for volleyball against YSU 3-2. Hopefully we win the last two to finish in second.
On Senior Night no less.
#1 UWM and #2 Valpo in the Horizon League Championship Match, live on HLN http://www.horizonleague.org/live/9194 (http://www.horizonleague.org/live/9194)
Another good regular season. Hopefully we will be able to get over the hump in the HL championship next year, now being 0-3 in the title game since joining. The girls tried to battle, but it seemed like we gave away way too many free balls. I don't remember seeing Milwaukee mishit too much that would go to our side, whereas we had a decent amount of serve receipt mishandles that went right to them, and several balls at the net that they would just smack right back. There is always next year!
Time and time again we seem to lose on back to back days. Tired legs? I also noticed that UWM played at least five fewer matches than Valpo did throughout the season. They were fresher than we were. Perhaps trying to continue the goal of 20 wins seasons is more important to KA than going to the dance Hell, the more matches you play the better the chance of winning 20 games or more. Right?
Not sure who KA is.
Quote from: Pgmado on November 24, 2013, 04:35:06 PM
Not sure who KA is.
KA=Carin Avery. I believe setshot is not aware that Carin spells her name with a "C."
Right!
Quote from: setshot on November 24, 2013, 03:33:45 PM
Time and time again we seem to lose on back to back days. Tired legs? I also noticed that UWM played at least five fewer matches than Valpo did throughout the season. They were fresher than we were. Perhaps trying to continue the goal of 20 wins seasons is more important to KA than going to the dance Hell, the more matches you play the better the chance of winning 20 games or more. Right?
I actually think setshot might be on to something. Not the part about wanting the 20 wins but the part about tired legs due to too many matches. We lost 3 of the last 6 prior to going 1 of 2 in the tourney for 4 and 4 over the last 8. During the season the team did seem to lose focus in losing to teams they shouldn't have going back to losing 3-0 to Memphis.
Another great year but when they were predicted to win it all and lost to a team that wasn't very good last year, the 20 win thing loses some shine.
First off Milwaukee had proven all season to be a very good team their record is not as high as Valpo's but they also played a lot more top level teams before coming into conference. Secondly the only reason they did poorly last year was because their setter and player of the year this year were injured and out all season last year. And I am sure CA is not as worried about the 20 wins as much as she would like to get a conference championship.
Well, here we go again,wellllllllll maybe. Iowa's coach Dingman is out. Iowa reached out and offered Carin the job last time. That resulted in a contract extention for her due to run out in two more years. With the continued success of Valpo's program I'm wondering if Iowa will go back to the well one more time?
Quote from: original sin on December 06, 2013, 10:46:28 AM
Well, here we go again,wellllllllll maybe. Iowa's coach Dingman is out. Iowa reached out and offered Carin the job last time. That resulted in a contract extention for her due to run out in two more years. With the continued success of Valpo's program I'm wondering if Iowa will go back to the well one more time?
Does Iowa have a men's soccer program in need of a good coach (or might they be planning to start one?) ? If so, we're in trouble.
Iowa won all their non-conference matches except vs Valpo and Ball State. They lost all their B10 matches except 2 against IU.
Quote from: IndyValpo on December 06, 2013, 01:03:51 PM
Iowa won all their non-conference matches except vs Valpo and Ball State. They lost all their B10 matches except 2 against IU.
We're you kidding? Iowa does not have a men's soccer program in the NCAA. They do have a club level program
http://www.dailyiowan.com/2009/07/08/Sports/11976.html (http://www.dailyiowan.com/2009/07/08/Sports/11976.html)
http://www.hawkeyesports.com/index-main.html (http://www.hawkeyesports.com/index-main.html)
Click on the drop down menu for Teams, then look under Men's Teams. No Soccer!
Quote from: VULB#62 on December 06, 2013, 12:21:54 PMDoes Iowa have a men's soccer program in need of a good coach (or might they be planning to start one?) ? If so, we're in trouble.
Not so sure it would have to be just U of Iowa. If Coe College, Mt Mercy U, Grinnell College, Augustana or St. Ambrose have an opening, all would be a problem for VU. Also, if the UofI Volleyball job pays an amount that is substantially more than both are making at Valpo, and there is an opportunity to develop an indoor/outdoor facility for coaching soccer in either Iowa City, Quad Cities or Des Moines, we could also be in trouble. I'm sure the Averys have discussed the possibility of leaving VU for other opportunities in the past, and what criteria would allow one to follow the other.
This has happened for other coaching couples as well. Several years ago, Mike and Maggie Lonergan were the Men's and Women's basketball coaches at Catholic University (Div. III). During the 2004-5 basketball season, while Maggie Lonergan was the coach of CUA, she also did a season long first person perspective column in the Washington Post. Some of the trials and tribulations of that season included going through the process of her husband accepting an assistant job at Maryland to potentially enhance his possibility of getting a Division I job offer. She was also coaching and gave birth at the beginning of the season, if I remember correctly. The series of articles ended with her husband getting the job at Vermont, and her resigning her position - a very bittersweet ending for her. She was saddened to be leaving her team and the reliationships with her players, but looking forward to the journey of her husband's job, and being a full time mother. They are now back in Washington, DC, with Mike the HC at GWU.
I'm sure the Avery's will be in the same situation. I don't envey their situation, only the individual opportunities that exist for either Avery. Good luck to them!
I'm just concerned it's an "offer you can't refuse".
Quote from: covufan on December 06, 2013, 01:48:20 PMSeveral years ago, Mike and Maggie Lonergan were the Men's and Women's basketball coaches at Catholic University (Div. III).
Thanks for that memory. I was not at CUA then, but my little sister was, the year they won the national title.
I went to a game with her and we started a riot, actually, and inadvertently. Buuuuut that's a story for another day.
Go Cards!
Quote from: covufan on December 06, 2013, 01:48:20 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on December 06, 2013, 12:21:54 PMDoes Iowa have a men's soccer program in need of a good coach (or might they be planning to start one?) ? If so, we're in trouble.
Not so sure it would have to be just U of Iowa. If Coe College, Mt Mercy U, Grinnell College, Augustana or St. Ambrose have an opening, all would be a problem for VU. Also, if the UofI Volleyball job pays an amount that is substantially more than both are making at Valpo, and there is an opportunity to develop an indoor/outdoor facility for coaching soccer in either Iowa City, Quad Cities or Des Moines, we could also be in trouble. I'm sure the Averys have discussed the possibility of leaving VU for other opportunities in the past, and what criteria would allow one to follow the other.
This has happened for other coaching couples as well. Several years ago, Mike and Maggie Lonergan were the Men's and Women's basketball coaches at Catholic University (Div. III). During the 2004-5 basketball season, while Maggie Lonergan was the coach of CUA, she also did a season long first person perspective column in the Washington Post. Some of the trials and tribulations of that season included going through the process of her husband accepting an assistant job at Maryland to potentially enhance his possibility of getting a Division I job offer. She was also coaching and gave birth at the beginning of the season, if I remember correctly. The series of articles ended with her husband getting the job at Vermont, and her resigning her position - a very bittersweet ending for her. She was saddened to be leaving her team and the reliationships with her players, but looking forward to the journey of her husband's job, and being a full time mother. They are now back in Washington, DC, with Mike the HC at GWU.
I'm sure the Avery's will be in the same situation. I don't envey their situation, only the individual opportunities that exist for either Avery. Good luck to them!
I would guess that both Avery's are making near the top pay at their respective positions in the Horizon. That said, a BIG position will be difficult to turn down although moving the family for one spot might be more difficult.
Quote from: bbtds on December 06, 2013, 01:28:20 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on December 06, 2013, 01:03:51 PM
Iowa won all their non-conference matches except vs Valpo and Ball State. They lost all their B10 matches except 2 against IU.
We're you kidding? Iowa does not have a men's soccer program in the NCAA. They do have a club level program
http://www.dailyiowan.com/2009/07/08/Sports/11976.html (http://www.dailyiowan.com/2009/07/08/Sports/11976.html)
http://www.hawkeyesports.com/index-main.html (http://www.hawkeyesports.com/index-main.html)
Click on the drop down menu for Teams, then look under Men's Teams. No Soccer!
I think Indy was referring to the women's VB team.
Quote from: vu72 on December 06, 2013, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: covufan on December 06, 2013, 01:48:20 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on December 06, 2013, 12:21:54 PMDoes Iowa have a men's soccer program in need of a good coach (or might they be planning to start one?) ? If so, we're in trouble.
Not so sure it would have to be just U of Iowa. If Coe College, Mt Mercy U, Grinnell College, Augustana or St. Ambrose have an opening, all would be a problem for VU. Also, if the UofI Volleyball job pays an amount that is substantially more than both are making at Valpo, and there is an opportunity to develop an indoor/outdoor facility for coaching soccer in either Iowa City, Quad Cities or Des Moines, we could also be in trouble. I'm sure the Averys have discussed the possibility of leaving VU for other opportunities in the past, and what criteria would allow one to follow the other.
I'm sure the Avery's will be in the same situation. I don't envey their situation, only the individual opportunities that exist for either Avery. Good luck to them!
I would guess that both Avery's are making near the top pay at their respective positions in the Horizon. That said, a BIG position will be difficult to turn down although moving the family for one spot might be more difficult.
Carin and Mike are both respected D-I coaches and in the prime of their careers. I doubt that they would consider a move where only one would coach at that level. While D-III is a great competitive environment at its level, it would be a big step backward for, in this instance, Mike and would send a signal that he's ready to spend the next 20 years at that level. He's too young for that. But stranger things have happened.
Quote from: VULB#62 on December 06, 2013, 12:21:54 PMDoes Iowa have a men's soccer program in need of a good coach (or might they be planning to start one?) ? If so, we're in trouble.
and I think bbtds meant to quote you.