A quick hello to everyone on the board. Big St. Louis University fan here, and I wanted to stop by the board to get some Valpo fans' take on this Saturday's game.
First and foremost I think I speak for many SLU fans when I express my respect for the Valparaiso program. Bryce Drew is a great coach—one whose name was tossed around for the SLU job once upon a time—and it seems that y'all have a consistently strong program.
I am curious to see how Crusader fans are feeling about the game this upcoming Saturday. The Bills took last year's contest in what was a sloppy game on both sides. I expect this years game to also be a dogfight. SLU returned a lot of talent from last year, but has yet to mesh in the new season. While our defense has been strong, scoring and rebounding have both proved difficult at times. I think it's safe to say we are far from clicking on all cylinders and I'm sure playing at Valpo will not be an easy game.
What kind of team do you all have this year? Is it safe to say Dority is the straw that stirs the drink? Is the freshman Alec Peters the real deal? Is Capobianco turning into a true contributor? Any information you have on how Valpo plays and what team we as SLU fans should expect to see on Saturday would be much appreciated.
Thanks and glad I could stop by. Looking forward to a fun match-up.
P.S. I'm very glad ye olde Keith Carter will not suit up for this one. He will be a very good player for you in time.
Quote from: Billiken_NH on December 05, 2013, 07:51:46 AM
A quick hello to everyone on the board. Big St. Louis University fan here, and I wanted to stop by the board to get some Valpo fans' take on this Saturday's game.
First and foremost I think I speak for many SLU fans when I express my respect for the Valparaiso program. Bryce Drew is a great coach—one whose name was tossed around for the SLU job once upon a time—and it seems that y'all have a consistently strong program.
I am curious to see how Crusader fans are feeling about the game this upcoming Saturday. The Bills took last year's contest in what was a sloppy game on both sides. I expect this years game to also be a dogfight. SLU returned a lot of talent from last year, but has yet to mesh in the new season. While our defense has been strong, scoring and rebounding have both proved difficult at times. I think it's safe to say we are far from clicking on all cylinders and I'm sure playing at Valpo will not be an easy game.
What kind of team do you all have this year? Is it safe to say Dority is the straw that stirs the drink? Is the freshman Alec Peters the real deal? Is Capobianco turning into a true contributor? Any information you have on how Valpo plays and what team we as SLU fans should expect to see on Saturday would be much appreciated.
Thanks and glad I could stop by. Looking forward to a fun match-up.
P.S. I'm very glad ye olde Keith Carter will not suit up for this one. He will be a very good player for you in time.
Welcome to the Board! We are a completely different team from what you saw last year. By that I mean more than just the names on the jerseys. Last year we went 6'8", 6'7" and 6'4" across the front line with Bobby and another 6'4" guy off the bench. This year we are currently starting a 7', 6'8" and 6'7" with Bobby and Vashil (at 6'10") seeing lots of action. Rebounding has been a big plus for us as has been shot blocking, which was nonexistent last year.
We were pretty much an outside shooting team last year which was also made essential by teams being able to sag off of our very poor shooting point guard. That is very much not the case this year. It will be difficult to concentrate of defending either the inside or outside game.
Having said all that, the big difference is that last year we played six seniors and this year we do have three seniors contributing, but feature four freshman, three of whom start. As time goes by it seems obvious to us Valpo fans that this team will only gets better the more time they have together.
Yes, LaVonte is a leader who is shooting very well from the outside and Alec Peters has shown star quality as he is our leading scorer although we spread the scoring among many players night in and night out.
So that's it! Hope we have a good crowd but the students are away (lucky you!) If you come up for the game I hope you have a nice visit.
Why won't the students be there? The academic calendar says classes don't end until Dec 13.
Paul
Quote from: 78crusader on December 05, 2013, 08:45:27 AM
Why won't the students be there? The academic calendar says classes don't end until Dec 13.
Paul
Good question. Perhaps I'm wrong, just reporting what I thought others have said.
Quote from: vu72 on December 05, 2013, 09:12:07 AM
Quote from: 78crusader on December 05, 2013, 08:45:27 AM
Why won't the students be there? The academic calendar says classes don't end until Dec 13.
Paul
Good question. Perhaps I'm wrong, just reporting what I thought others have said.
Thanksgiving break is over and class is back in session I'm pretty sure. Hope the students take a break from semester ending projects, papers, and preparing for finals which are soon to come. We need to have the students "in the house" helping to make the ARC loud and a tough venue to play in for SLU. SLU is a very good team returning good players and we will have our hands full I think.
Oh, and welcome to the board, Billiken_NH.
Finals week is the 16th-20th:
http://www.valpo.edu/registrar/assets/pdfs/AY2013.2014CR.pdf (http://www.valpo.edu/registrar/assets/pdfs/AY2013.2014CR.pdf)
The students should not only be here this Sat., but for next Saturday's game against Loyola Marymount, as well.
If this game is not a sellout, there is something wrong with our fan base...
Quote from: Billiken_NH on December 05, 2013, 07:51:46 AM
A quick hello to everyone on the board. Big St. Louis University fan here, and I wanted to stop by the board to get some Valpo fans' take on this Saturday's game.
First and foremost I think I speak for many SLU fans when I express my respect for the Valparaiso program. Bryce Drew is a great coach—one whose name was tossed around for the SLU job once upon a time—and it seems that y'all have a consistently strong program.
I am curious to see how Crusader fans are feeling about the game this upcoming Saturday. The Bills took last year's contest in what was a sloppy game on both sides. I expect this years game to also be a dogfight. SLU returned a lot of talent from last year, but has yet to mesh in the new season. While our defense has been strong, scoring and rebounding have both proved difficult at times. I think it's safe to say we are far from clicking on all cylinders and I'm sure playing at Valpo will not be an easy game.
What kind of team do you all have this year? Is it safe to say Dority is the straw that stirs the drink? Is the freshman Alec Peters the real deal? Is Capobianco turning into a true contributor? Any information you have on how Valpo plays and what team we as SLU fans should expect to see on Saturday would be much appreciated.
Thanks and glad I could stop by. Looking forward to a fun match-up.
P.S. I'm very glad ye olde Keith Carter will not suit up for this one. He will be a very good player for you in time.
Whatever tape you have from last season just toss it in the trash, it'll do yo no good. As others have said this team is completely different.
We have 5 freshmen and 4 who play regular minutes. Peters is the real deal and is one of our best players offensively, he can knock them down from outside with the best of them and is a match up nightmare at the three because of his size (6' 7").
Dority has been good this season, he now plays the 2 and has looked much better. Right now we have a freshman playing PG, Lexus Williams, who's a shifty athletic PG who can score from anywhere on the court and is dangerous whenever he handles the ball.
We also are a very big team, with 7' 270 lbs center in Moussa Gueye. He probably won't score a bunch, typically he's good for 4-8 points but he gets a few blocks and takes away the other team's 5. On the bench we have Vashil who's 6' 10" but can't play more than 10 minutes without fouling out, which causes Moussa to foul out. So for the first 3/4 of the game you might have trouble scoring but the last 10 minutes we won't have our big center and Bobby will move to the 5. As for Bobby, he can make some threes and plays the post pretty well, he lacks defense but is a good player, not great.
Valpo is much different than last year's team. I believe last year when we played you guys we had a dismal shooting effort from 3 (5-21). Thus we couldn't score. This year we do have guys who can make 3's but we also have a lot of athleticism and can score from anywhere on the court.
Should be a great game and a challenge for both Valpo and SLU. Looking forward to tip-off Saturday night.
Quote from: valpotx on December 05, 2013, 10:25:14 AM
If this game is not a sell-out, there is something wrong with our fan base...
If you check the ticket website the chairback sections are almost full already. I think it's going to be a full house with walk up sales. Yes, the student section will be loaded, standing and loud. Book it!
Quote from: valpotx on December 05, 2013, 10:25:14 AM
If this game is not a sell-out, there is something wrong with our fan base...
We are nowhere near a sellout and yes there is something wrong with our fan base because nobody has ever put much effort into trying to build one. Wh, lowposter, and I have hammered on this subject repeatedly; Valpo must make a better connection with the basketball fans of northwest Indiana.
Hopefully area fans and our students know that SLU is a great team to have at home! It isn't the same as when we have entertained Purdue or Cincinnati (when they were very good), but they should carry some clout at the box office. Our Marketing group has done better based on the things I have seen, so hopefully it pays off in games such as this one.
Quote from: classof2014 on December 05, 2013, 10:31:24 AM
Quote from: Billiken_NH on December 05, 2013, 07:51:46 AM
A quick hello to everyone on the board. Big St. Louis University fan here, and I wanted to stop by the board to get some Valpo fans' take on this Saturday's game.
First and foremost I think I speak for many SLU fans when I express my respect for the Valparaiso program. Bryce Drew is a great coach—one whose name was tossed around for the SLU job once upon a time—and it seems that y'all have a consistently strong program.
I am curious to see how Crusader fans are feeling about the game this upcoming Saturday. The Bills took last year's contest in what was a sloppy game on both sides. I expect this years game to also be a dogfight. SLU returned a lot of talent from last year, but has yet to mesh in the new season. While our defense has been strong, scoring and rebounding have both proved difficult at times. I think it's safe to say we are far from clicking on all cylinders and I'm sure playing at Valpo will not be an easy game.
What kind of team do you all have this year? Is it safe to say Dority is the straw that stirs the drink? Is the freshman Alec Peters the real deal? Is Capobianco turning into a true contributor? Any information you have on how Valpo plays and what team we as SLU fans should expect to see on Saturday would be much appreciated.
Thanks and glad I could stop by. Looking forward to a fun match-up.
P.S. I'm very glad ye olde Keith Carter will not suit up for this one. He will be a very good player for you in time.
Whatever tape you have from last season just toss it in the trash, it'll do yo no good. As others have said this team is completely different.
We have 5 freshmen and 4 who play regular minutes. Peters is the real deal and is one of our best players offensively, he can knock them down from outside with the best of them and is a match up nightmare at the three because of his size (6' 7").
Dority has been good this season, he now plays the 2 and has looked much better. Right now we have a freshman playing PG, Lexus Williams, who's a shifty athletic PG who can score from anywhere on the court and is dangerous whenever he handles the ball.
We also are a very big team, with 7' 270 lbs center in Moussa Gueye. He probably won't score a bunch, typically he's good for 4-8 points but he gets a few blocks and takes away the other team's 5. On the bench we have Vashil who's 6' 10" but can't play more than 10 minutes without fouling out, which causes Moussa to foul out. So for the first 3/4 of the game you might have trouble scoring but the last 10 minutes we won't have our big center and Bobby will move to the 5. As for Bobby, he can make some threes and plays the post pretty well, he lacks defense but is a good player, not great.
Valpo is much different than last year's team. I believe last year when we played you guys we had a dismal shooting effort from 3 (5-21). Thus we couldn't score. This year we do have guys who can make 3's but we also have a lot of athleticism and can score from anywhere on the court.
Should be a great game and a challenge for both Valpo and SLU. Looking forward to tip-off Saturday night.
Let's be honest though. When the ball goes into our big men it's like watching an untrained seal trying to control a beach ball with his fins. Gueye and Fernandez are both fairly new to basketball and don't handle the ball well at all. They will cough it up on a regular basis, although Gueye has improved and there are spotty moments where things fall into place for Fernandez.
There are two players that have good inside games, Capobianco (didn't score a point on Ball State) and Adekoya, the freshman, who was the leading scorer against Ball State.
It will be a challenging game for Valpo but the Bills need to bring their best. With all the zone the Crusaders will be playing Jett is going to have to either hit his shots or leave it up to McBroom. He will have no other choice.
I think Peters will explode on the Billikens because I'm not sure yet if the other freshmen can handle SLU's tough defense.
Also Evans will have to move outside because he will not score easily on the inside against the Valpo big men.
Our two 7 footers will foul out by the end of the game and we turn the ball over a lot (about 15 times a game). We rotate a lot of players. Shooting percentage against D1 schools is 47.8% and 35.2% from 3pt. It may look like we score an ungodly amount of points (84.3 per game), but if you take out the 2 non-D1 games and take away 3 of the overtimes vs Mercer, it's only 75.75. Still pretty high, but 84 ppg is misleading.
It looks like SLU hasn't given up very many points (70 to WSU is the highest, which is a team that scores a bunch). We saw last year how awful they can make an offense look. This year the game will be far less emotional.
Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2013, 11:32:56 AM
Our two 7 footers will foul out by the end of the game and we turn the ball over a lot (about 15 times a game). We rotate a lot of players. Shooting percentage against D1 schools is 47.8% and 35.2% from 3pt. It may look like we score an ungodly amount of points (84.3 per game), but if you take out the 2 non-D1 games and take away 3 of the overtimes vs Mercer, it's only 75.75. Still pretty high, but 84 ppg is misleading.
It looks like SLU hasn't given up very many points (70 to WSU is the highest, which is a team that scores a bunch). We saw last year how awful they can make an offense look. This year the game will be far less emotional.
Just to be accurate the score of the WSU game was 65-60. Yes, this game will be a lot lower scoring than most Valpo games. OTOH SLU will be forced to hit their outside shots. I really hope we limit Gueye's and Fernandez's touches on offense and use Adekoya and Capo to do the posting up. An inside out game with better ball handling will help Valpo. A bad shooting night, the Bills had a really cold shooting streak against Rockhurst, I believe Rock U went on a 20-5 run against the Chaifetz cagers, could spell a loss for SLU. A hot McBroom or doom!
Quote from: justducky on December 05, 2013, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 05, 2013, 10:25:14 AM
If this game is not a sell-out, there is something wrong with our fan base...
We are nowhere near a sellout and yes there is something wrong with our fan base because nobody has ever put much effort into trying to build one. Wh, lowposter, and I have hammered on this subject repeatedly; Valpo must make a better connection with the basketball fans of northwest Indiana.
What info do you have to substantiate your claim of the SLU game not being near a big crowd?
Quote from: bbtds on December 05, 2013, 11:55:17 AMJust to be accurate the score of the WSU game was 65-60. Yes, this game will be a lot lower scoring than most Valpo games. OTOH SLU will be forced to hit their outside shots. I really hope we limit Gueye's and Fernandez's touches on offense and use Adekoya and Capo to do the posting up. An inside out game with better ball handling will help Valpo. A bad shooting night, the Bills had a really cold shooting streak against Rockhurst, I believe Rock U went on a 20-5 run against the Chaifetz cagers, could spell a loss for SLU. A hot McBroom or doom!
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400500006 (http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400500006)
70-65.
Quote from: a3uge on December 05, 2013, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: bbtds on December 05, 2013, 11:55:17 AMJust to be accurate the score of the WSU game was 65-60. Yes, this game will be a lot lower scoring than most Valpo games. OTOH SLU will be forced to hit their outside shots. I really hope we limit Gueye's and Fernandez's touches on offense and use Adekoya and Capo to do the posting up. An inside out game with better ball handling will help Valpo. A bad shooting night, the Bills had a really cold shooting streak against Rockhurst, I believe Rock U went on a 20-5 run against the Chaifetz cagers, could spell a loss for SLU. A hot McBroom or doom!
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400500006 (http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400500006)
70-65.
My mistake. Way too many scores going through my head right now. Thanks for the correction on my awful correction.
Bobbys 3 pointers are ugly. He shouldn't shoot them.
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Quote from: truth219 on December 05, 2013, 12:18:40 PM
Bobbys 3 pointers are ugly. He shouldn't shoot them.
I believe it's already been pointed out that Capo's threes, ugly or not, are part of his overall game and lead to his being guarded closely on the outside which can then help with Bobby getting more room to make inside moves. Capo is 9 for 16 on threes, VU's highest three point percentage this season.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/media/basketball-men/2013-14/Box%20Scores/TEAMCUME.HTM (http://www.valpoathletics.com/media/basketball-men/2013-14/Box%20Scores/TEAMCUME.HTM)
Quote from: bbtds on December 05, 2013, 11:57:39 AM
Quote from: justducky on December 05, 2013, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 05, 2013, 10:25:14 AM
If this game is not a sell-out, there is something wrong with our fan base...
We are nowhere near a sellout and yes there is something wrong with our fan base because nobody has ever put much effort into trying to build one. Wh, lowposter, and I have hammered on this subject repeatedly; Valpo must make a better connection with the basketball fans of northwest Indiana.
What info do you have to substantiate your claim of the SLU game not being near a big crowd?
I just checked the ticket site and there are a huge number of tickets left. The lower area is pretty full (25 seats left in chairbacks and 175 on the other side), but the upper deck is pretty empty. CC, for example, being the prime upper deck seating, has maybe 50 people there now. Lots of room unfortunately.
I'd be willing to say bobbys 3pt % will be under 30% by the end of the year.
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Quote from: bbtds on December 05, 2013, 11:57:39 AM
Quote from: justducky on December 05, 2013, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: valpotx on December 05, 2013, 10:25:14 AM
If this game is not a sell-out, there is something wrong with our fan base...
We are nowhere near a sellout and yes there is something wrong with our fan base because nobody has ever put much effort into trying to build one. Wh, lowposter, and I have hammered on this subject repeatedly; Valpo must make a better connection with the basketball fans of northwest Indiana.
What info do you have to substantiate your claim of the SLU game not being near a big crowd?
Two days till game time and we have almost no mezzanine sales and maybe 200 plus seats down below that are still unsold. From this I would predict at best 4100 and it could be far short of that. For our best home opponent of the year I am not going to define that low number as being a big crowd.
I agree, justducky. It would be VERY disappointing to not have 5,000+ for a game like this one. Has the Marketing group built up this game over any others to show the region that they are a solid program?
I know its not possible, but if valpo had a tv deal I think that would help ticket sales. I think that any high school student with an ID should get a ticket for 5 bucks. If you wear a valpo shirt you should get a mezzanine seat for 5 bucks.
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Quote from: truth219 on December 05, 2013, 01:39:30 PMI know its not possible, but if valpo had a tv deal I think that would help ticket sales.
It's actually not impossible. Every home HL game is streamed on HLN. Could Lakeshore show the games and use the feed as the HLN? Sure. Could them make pretty decent money off ad revenue? Probably. Will this ever happen? Probably not.
Quote from: truth219 on December 05, 2013, 01:16:03 PMI'd be willing to say bobbys 3pt % will be under 30% by the end of the year.
You're on. He'd have to miss his next 15 in a row to go under 30%. Taken further, let's assume he hits the O/U number of 75. He'd have to make 13 (or fewer) of those 60 (21.7%). Since he's already over 50%...that'd be hard to do even if you were trying to suck.
You think they're "ugly"? I am of the school of thought that says "it's not ugly when it goes in". He'd have to go 14 of those 16 shots from inside the arc to score as many points, and even KVW would have trouble converting 87.5%.
Truth, you may have 219 problems but Capo 3s ain't one.
I would agree that his 3 pointers are ugly but they're falling, and people may say the 72 Dolphins were ugly but they won every single game, so winning ugly, looks much better than what the Pats did a few years ago blowing every one out of the water but not winning the ever so crucial last game.
Last year he shot a respectable 35% for beyond the arc. I can guarantee he won't shoot 60% on the year but I'm guessing he'll be somewhere around 35-40 when all is said and done which is very good. His 3 point shooting helps open up the offense and allows him to drive into the lane, which recently he's looked pretty good doing. I know he didn't score a single point yesterday but he didn't force up many bad shots either.
A 3 pointer is a 3 pointer and it don't really matter how it looks like falling through. They all count the same in the end.
The Mezz will fill up with the walk in crowd, overflow from students and faculty/staff and their families.
Quote from: valpotx on December 05, 2013, 01:29:53 PM
I agree, justducky. It would be VERY disappointing to not have 5,000+ for a game like this one. Has the Marketing group built up this game over any others to show the region that they are a solid program?
If they have , I haven't noticed and it may now be too late for any last minute push. I do not want to panic yet but if we fall well short of a respectable number then we should probably move this discussion to its own dedicated thread. This last March we had 2 threads with much talk on building home attendance. One was titled (How did the city react?) and the other was (HL Tourney). It is beyond my time and abilities to throw all of the pertinent commentary into one place but maybe one of you could do it as it would eliminate a great deal of needless repetition. I have some new thoughts and suggestions that I will submit when the stage is properly set, or maybe Saturday will have folks sitting elbow to elbow in the top row of EE and we can change the topic back to ARC renovation and expansion. :o
Quote from: justducky on December 05, 2013, 09:49:36 PMQuote from: valpotx on December 05, 2013, 01:29:53 PMI agree, justducky. It would be VERY disappointing to not have 5,000+ for a game like this one. Has the Marketing group built up this game over any others to show the region that they are a solid program?
If they have , I haven't noticed and it may now be too late for any last minute push. I do not want to panic yet but if we fall well short of a respectable number then we should probably move this discussion to its own dedicated thread. This last March we had 2 threads with much talk on building home attendance. One was titled (How did the city react?) and the other was (HL Tourney). It is beyond my time and abilities to throw all of the pertinent commentary into one place but maybe one of you could do it as it would eliminate a great deal of needless repetition. I have some new thoughts and suggestions that I will submit when the stage is properly set, or maybe Saturday will have folks sitting elbow to elbow in the top row of EE and we can change the topic back to ARC renovation and expansion. :o
I know at least a dozen people in the city of Valpo who won't attend games due to the facilities in the ARC. Bathrooms, concessions etc. You really have to cater to peoples' personal whims these days. There are an awful lot of more comfortable things that these people could be doing at the same price or less.
I'm kinda bummed that FSMW won't be televising the game. Hey, Billiken_NH, do they ever televise non-conference away games?
I can not understand why some people would not attend games at the ARC because of facilities alone. Have any of them ever attended a game at Hinkle Fieldhouse sitting in the upper sections? The restrooms are TERRIBLE....."troughs" in the unheated men's restrooms made of rusted and chipped porcelain. (At least the ones at Wrigley Field are stainless steel.) Sounds to me these folks at Valpo are just looking for an excuse to stay home even though our facilities leave a lot to be desired. If you are a true fan you will go!
I still say some in Porter, Lake, and LaPorte counties won't attend VU games when their local high school is playing. Regardless of facilities, the expense of an Horizon League vs. IHSAA event is a major contributor to why our attendance numbers are always a beaten horse on this board. Why pay $20 a person to sit in the mezzanine, when you can spend $20 for 4 people to watch Valpo High play?
Quote from: valpo64 on December 06, 2013, 10:48:14 AMSounds to me these folks at Valpo are just looking for an excuse to stay home even though our facilities leave a lot to be desired. If you are a true fan you will go!
There are a large amount of fans that stay away from Hinkle too. But when you look at percentages (6,000-8,000/1.5 million) to Valpo's (3,000-4,000/100,000) for a good mid to high major but not a real crowd pleaser such as Notre Dame, Purdue, Indiana, Duke, North Carolina, etc. then it's pretty good.
Quote from: valporun on December 06, 2013, 11:08:04 AM
I still say some in Porter, Lake, and LaPorte counties won't attend VU games when their local high school is playing. Regardless of facilities, the expense of an Horizon League vs. IHSAA event is a major contributor to why our attendance numbers are always a beaten horse on this board. Why pay $20 a person to sit in the mezzanine, when you can spend $20 for 4 people to watch Valpo High play?
Tickets for St. Louis in the mezzanine are $10. Plus, its D1 versus high school.
Quote from: vu72 on December 06, 2013, 11:24:32 AM
Quote from: valporun on December 06, 2013, 11:08:04 AM
I still say some in Porter, Lake, and LaPorte counties won't attend VU games when their local high school is playing. Regardless of facilities, the expense of an Horizon League vs. IHSAA event is a major contributor to why our attendance numbers are always a beaten horse on this board. Why pay $20 a person to sit in the mezzanine, when you can spend $20 for 4 people to watch Valpo High play?
Tickets for St. Louis in the mezzanine are $10. Plus, its D1 versus high school.
Even $10 in the mezzanine is too much, when you're not as close to the action. Knock the mezz down to $5, and you'll get more walk ups to give the mezz a good viewing spot for a game.
Well, we have a great halftime show coming in... those Chicago Bucket Boys are OUTSTANDING ... Students, Faculty and Staff do not need to buy tickets... I'm looking for a huge crowd. No Snow, just a bit nippy.
Quote from: talksalot on December 06, 2013, 09:23:28 PMStudents, Faculty and Staff do not need to buy tickets... I'm looking for a huge crowd. No Snow, just a bit nippy.
Hope you are right but just for the record could you define "huge" for us? ;) What has been reported as sold on e-tix looks to be suspiciously low. Might Cindys departure have made some difference in the recording of sales?
I may show up a little tired tomorrow so I hope a few fans do make it and are at least loud enough to keep me awake. :snore:
I just want the ARC to be loud throughout what should be a very close game.
4300 for Murray State.... was "large". HUGE to me is defined by the number of SRO rows are on the track surrounding the court. I'm looking for a Butler-size crowd in size and volume.
5,432 tickets are available
Largest crowds of the year: (without the extra leased seating)
2001-02 - IUPUI 5,421
2002-03 - IUPUI 4,921
2003-04 - W. Ill 4,617
2004-05 - Centenary 4,879 (ORU was 4,872)
2005-06 - ORU 4,561
2006-07 - Marquette 5,036 (Butler two days later, 4,578)
2007-08 - Butler - 5,432
2008-09 - Butler - 4,737
2009-10 - Butler - 5,266
2010-11 - Butler - 5,432 (Purdue, same year: 5,432)
2011-12 - Butler - 5,237
2012-13 - Detroit - 5,166
... so far this year: 4,277 Murray State.
Quote from: justducky on December 06, 2013, 10:36:29 PMHope you are right but just for the record could you define "huge" for us?
Quote from: talksalot on December 07, 2013, 09:43:53 AM4300 for Murray State.... was "large". HUGE to me is defined by the number of SRO rows are on the track surrounding the court. I'm looking for a Butler-size crowd in size and volume.
3564 didn't meet my lowest expectation and I know you can't be happy. I think we have a problem.
Unhappy and Surprised ... but I'll bet if you poll the folks around town, you'll get to over 5,000 people who say there were there. Students did have a decent turnout.
OH, one note. Will Bogan (who won the free-throw shooting contest during one of the time outs) did not accept the gift certificate... thought you'd like to know that. And I understand his opponent asked Will to go against him... and he almost won!