OK, I started the last two game threads... both wins... let's keep the string going. WSU has been struggling, we have a nice break to rest up. Hope for a great crowd to say thanks to Vashil Fernandez and David Chadwick. Also, Hall of Fame inductions. We've won 10 in a row in the ARC.
Game #28 of the year. In the past 28 years, we are 14-6. (we did not get to play this many games for a few years!)
Success in Game #28:
13-14: Beat YSU 68-66 at Home
12-13: Beat EKY 82-60 at home Bracketbuster
11-12: Lost LoyMMt 61-53 at Maryount Bracketbuster
10-11: Lost GB 81-80 at GBay
09-10: Beat Loyola 84-73 at Home
08-09: Lost to Cleveland State 71-64 at home, clinched 9th place in HL
07-08: Beat UWM 66-57 at Milwaukee
06-07: Beat Southern Utah 75-48 at home, clinched 3rd place in Mid-Con
February 21 History
2/21/12 - Win - Loyola - HOME - 66-62 OT
2/21/11 - Loss- UWGB - AWAY - 81-80 OT
2/21/04 - Loss- SUtah - AWAY - 75-58
2/21/02 - Win - Oakland - HOME - 79-72
2/21/94 - Win - Eastern Illinois - HOME - 70-55
Wright State Struggles:
@ Oak: Lost 84-76
H GB: Lost 71-58
@ CSU: Lost 88-72
H UIC: Lost 79-75
H YST: Lost 74-69
Play Oakland at Home on Wednesday night.
Raiders stink worse then me after a dinner at that Mexican restraint behind Memorial Opera house, and valpo is on a mission. I will take Valpo by 16.
78-62
Senior night. Vashil will have a great game, and some will feed him some good chances with the ball on offense. He finishes with 5 blocks, 10 rebounds and 13 points.
Valpo 75
WSU 56
Someone in the UWM thread said that WSU would be the tarp game. I don't know...its possible I guess, although as far as tarp games go I think we just had ours. It's the last home game of the year. I can't see Valpo losing it. We'll continue to close as we did over this past weekend.
Quote from: crusaderjoe on February 16, 2015, 01:39:29 PM
Someone in the UWM thread said that WSU would be the tarp game. I don't know...its possible I guess, although as far as tarp games go I think we just had ours. It's the last home game of the year. I can't see Valpo losing it. We'll continue to close as we did over this past weekend.
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Am I the only one having an issue with the term "trap game" being used for this past Milwaukee game or this upcoming Wright St game? For me, the term "trap game" is used where you are playing a lesser opponent a couple days before a big matchup where one could be caught looking ahead instead of focusing on the game at hand. I would consider the Milwaukee game as a "potential let down game". Just my :twocents:
Valpo 67
WSU 56
Quote from: valpo4life on February 16, 2015, 02:03:41 PM
Am I the only one having an issue with the term "trap game" being used for this past Milwaukee game or this upcoming Wright St game? For me, the term "trap game" is used where you are playing a lesser opponent a couple days before a big matchup where one could be caught looking ahead instead of focusing on the game at hand. I would consider the Milwaukee game as a "potential let down game". Just my :twocents:
That is the correct nomenclature. If this was going to be a tarp/trap game, then Detroit would be the "big game". I could see Detroit being the trap that we get caught looking forward to CSU.
Anyway no way we lose this game, Wright State is struggling, they hurting and frankly not that great. I wouldn't mind seeing Chadwick get a ton of burn. Also I think KC should start this game so he can get his rhythm back with the starters since I can't see the starters playing over 10 minutes in the second half.
Quote from: crusaderjoe on February 16, 2015, 01:39:29 PMSomeone in the UWM thread said that WSU would be the tarp game. I don't know...its possible I guess, although as far as tarp games go I think we just had ours. It's the last home game of the year. I can't see Valpo losing it. We'll continue to close as we did over this past weekend.
It could be a tarp game for WSU. They sure do need a
Troubled
Asset
Relief
Program for their team.
Then if not used properly you can bank on WSU getting trapped in their tarp.
Quote from: valpo4life on February 16, 2015, 02:03:41 PM
Am I the only one having an issue with the term "trap game" being used for this past Milwaukee game or this upcoming Wright St game? For me, the term "trap game" is used where you are playing a lesser opponent a couple days before a big matchup where one could be caught looking ahead instead of focusing on the game at hand. I would consider the Milwaukee game as a "potential let down game". Just my :twocents:
If you think of it as a literal trap, I see no reason it can't be placed in front of or behind the center of focus. To me, it's either a game where you are distracted by what's ahead of you or lulled by what's behind.
Just got my tickets to the game today! I really think this team can win out and even win a game in the big dance!
I think all of the tarp comments have covered the bases already. WSU ----yawn!
Quote from: Valpo18 on February 16, 2015, 11:30:24 PM
Just got my tickets to the game today! I really think this team can win out and even win a game in the big dance!
Smart move! Based on early ticket sales it will be a very good crowd as well it should be!
Valpo Basketball Preview 2|17|15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpdcNO_0U8k#ws)
This game won't catch the publics attention most likely. However, if tevonn or Alec can score 30+ points, it could.
From the WSU Game Notes for their game tonight with Oakland at the Nutter
Notes: The Raiders had five starters in street clothes on the bench but made a great effort to take the lead in the second half but lost to Youngstown State 74-69. Grant Benzinger led the way for his second straight 20-plus point night with 22 points on three threes. He added a career-high seven rebounds. Michael Karena had 14 points as Danile Collie got his first start. WSU outrebounded YSU 29-26.
No. Name (Ht., Wt., Yr., Pos) PPG RPG Notes
0 Steven Davis (6-7, 200, So., F) 7.4 3.5 day to day
2 Daniel Collie (5-11, 175, Jr., G) * 0.4 0.4 started vs YSU; hit three
3 Reggie Arceneaux (5-9, 160, Sr., G) 7.6 1.7 1,000th point at CSU
5 Justin Mitchell (6-4, 180, Fr., G) * 3.9 2.1 15/9 vs UIC
10 Mark Howell (5-10, 170, So., G) 1.5 0.5 6 pts vs Miami
11 JT Yoho (6-6, 225, Jr., F) 16.1 6.7 day to day
12 Grant Evans (6-3, 185, Fr., G) 2.1 0.7 3 threes vs YSU
13 Grant Benzinger (6-3, 190, Fr., G) * 8.1 3.0 22 pts vs YSU
14 Michael Karena (6-10, 225, Jr., C) * 8.8 3.4 21 pts/7 rebs vs UIC
15 Kendall Griffin (6-4, 215, Sr., G) 8.6 2.3 out for season
20 Chrishawn Hopkins (6-2, 175, Sr., G) 9.0 3.1 day to day
21 Trey Stacey (6-4, 185, Fr., G) 0.8 0.0 hit a three vs UIC
32 Joe Thomasson (6-4,170, Jr., G) 10.3 5.5 day to day
35 Roderick Davis (6-8, 225, Fr., F) * 1.7 1.2 17 pts/7 rebs at Oakland
* starters of most recent game
Recent history of their starting line-up...
vs. Valparaiso: Griffin, Karena, Hopkins, Thomasson, Arceneaux
at Milwaukee: Griffin, Karena, Hopkins, Thomasson, Arceneaux
at Detroit: Griffin, Karena, Hopkins, Thomasson, Mitchell
at Oakland: Griffin, Karena, Hopkins, Thomasson, Mitchell
vs. Green Bay: R. Davis, Karena, Hopkins, Thomasson, Arceneaux
at Cleveland State: R. Davis, Karena, Hopkins, Benzinger, Arceneaux
vs. UIC: R. Davis, Karena, Mitchell, Benzinger, Arceneaux
vs. Youngstown State: R. Davis, Karena, Mitchell, Benzinger, Collie (Arceneaux didn't start, played 23 minutes, 6 pts 6 asts), Benzinger scored 23 against UIC and 22 against Youngstown 6-3 FR Guard,
yikes. i would say WSU is a bad neighborhood getting worse, but then again, I said that about UWM when they were bottoming out AND graduating everyone, and they had a nice bounce-back year.
There are WSU posters blaming Donlon for not recruiting enough big men to be able to overcome their injury situation. I could understand the logic if they were out of guards, but people 6-7 and taller represent such an extremely small percentage of the population that recruiting quality players that size has to be an incredible challenge, especially at the mid major level. I'm not sympathizing because I don't recall any sympathy coming our way when we lost our top 2 point guards, but I always find it interesting that when things aren't going well some fans want to blame the coach for everything. IMO WSU would be crazy to get rid of Donlon, as some of their fans want. I could be wrong, but I doubt it's even remotely being considered. This team played in the HL tournament championship game in each of the last 2 years for heavens sakes. Fans can be so fickle.
Here's a link to the OAK-WSU box from last night...
http://www.wsuraiders.com/fls/27000/boxscores/m-baskbl/2014-15/27.pdf (http://www.wsuraiders.com/fls/27000/boxscores/m-baskbl/2014-15/27.pdf)
31 for Benzinger (another good freshman PG) last night... 76 points in his last 3 games. He went 1-3 with 2 rebounds in 24 minutes against us when we played them at WSU.
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We win this one easily. 73-52
Vashil has a great game, 7-9, 3-5 from FT, 11 boards, 4 blocks.
Quote from: wh on February 19, 2015, 11:43:18 AMbut I always find it interesting that when things aren't going well some fans want to blame the coach for everything. IMO WSU would be crazy to get rid of Donlon, as some of their fans want.
Agree. There is a reason that WSU has always been one of our best fan draws and that has been the consistency of their competition.
Should have clean roads and 30 degree temps for game time. Early ticket sales look very encouraging even after taking in to account the benefits of Sr. night and Hall of Fame. I think word that something good is developing may have finally leaked out to the larger northwest Indiana community. I would love to see 4,000+ show up for a WSU team that is really struggling.
Just looked. Fewer than 100 seats left in the lower bowl. Decent upper deck sales for two days before. If the students show it should be rocking. :dance:
Quote from: classof2014 on February 19, 2015, 12:30:20 PMVashil has a great game, 7-9, 3-5 from FT, 11 boards, 4 blocks.
As of lately that would be a huge improvement in the FT dept. The other stats seem very doable versus WSU and Karena and Davis. It's only when Karena and Davis aren't guarding him that Vashil will really struggle.
Quote from: historyman on February 20, 2015, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: classof2014 on February 19, 2015, 12:30:20 PMVashil has a great game, 7-9, 3-5 from FT, 11 boards, 4 blocks.
As of lately that would be a huge improvement in the FT dept. The other stats seem very doable versus WSU and Karena and Davis. It's only when Karena and Davis aren't guarding him that Vashil will really struggle.
I guess I'm hoping that he has a decent FT shooting game before the tournament. Get some confidence back. He started the season off well but now he's been incredibly shaky. Not to the point last season when he missed like 17 in a row or something.
So obviously Vashil and Chadwick start tomorrow. But who joins them? Obviously Alec will join them, but the main question will be which Walker and which PG? I'd like to see it be Tevonn and KC. Then after you give Chadwick his mandatory 5 minutes of run bring in Darien and EVic. I want to see KC, Alec and Tevonn on the court as much as necessary, which might only be 20-25 minutes but I'd like to see KC get a good 20 minutes with the main starters.
Chadwick has to start because of senior night?
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 20, 2015, 09:49:41 AMSo obviously Vashil and Chadwick start tomorrow.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 20, 2015, 10:17:43 AMSo obviously Vashil and Chadwick start tomorrow.
Is Chadwick even healthy? I don't think Chadwick would start, even if healthy. I do think that if he is healthy enough to play, he'll get minutes at the end of the game, if at all possible.
Quote from: covufan on February 20, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 20, 2015, 09:49:41 AMSo obviously Vashil and Chadwick start tomorrow.
Is Chadwick even healthy? I don't think Chadwick would start, even if healthy. I do think that if he is healthy enough to play, he'll get minutes at the end of the game, if at all possible.
He's been dressed the last 2 games so I would assume he'd be healthy. As for him starting this is something Bryce does for the seniors on senior night. Last season Capobianco and Coleman started when they hadn't started since November 20th and January 10th respectively. Hell Coleman played an average of 11 minutes the previous 6 games before getting 22 minutes on Senior night. I think Bryce gives them a little "playing time" pat on the back tomorrow.
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 20, 2015, 10:35:52 AM
Quote from: covufan on February 20, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 20, 2015, 09:49:41 AMSo obviously Vashil and Chadwick start tomorrow.
Is Chadwick even healthy? I don't think Chadwick would start, even if healthy. I do think that if he is healthy enough to play, he'll get minutes at the end of the game, if at all possible.
He's been dressed the last 2 games so I would assume he'd be healthy. As for him starting this is something Bryce does for the seniors on senior night. Last season Capobianco and Coleman started when they hadn't started since November 20th and January 10th respectively. Hell Coleman played an average of 11 minutes the previous 6 games before getting 22 minutes on Senior night. I think Bryce gives them a little "playing time" pat on the back tomorrow.
Yeah, but both those players were going to get their minutes - Bryce just made a decision to give them some minutes at the start of the game. Vashil has been starting, so I'd expect him to start. Chadwick has not been getting minutes, but I would expect Bryce to give him a chance to spell Vashil, briefly in the first half, then maybe at the end of the game, if possible. If the game is too close, he won't get much of a chance to play. I don't foresee this being a problem - he'll get some good end of game minutes.
Quote from: covufan on February 20, 2015, 10:47:12 AM
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 20, 2015, 10:35:52 AM
Quote from: covufan on February 20, 2015, 10:28:47 AM
Quote from: Kyle321n on February 20, 2015, 09:49:41 AMSo obviously Vashil and Chadwick start tomorrow.
Is Chadwick even healthy? I don't think Chadwick would start, even if healthy. I do think that if he is healthy enough to play, he'll get minutes at the end of the game, if at all possible.
He's been dressed the last 2 games so I would assume he'd be healthy. As for him starting this is something Bryce does for the seniors on senior night. Last season Capobianco and Coleman started when they hadn't started since November 20th and January 10th respectively. Hell Coleman played an average of 11 minutes the previous 6 games before getting 22 minutes on Senior night. I think Bryce gives them a little "playing time" pat on the back tomorrow.
Yeah, but both those players were going to get their minutes - Bryce just made a decision to give them some minutes at the start of the game. Vashil has been starting, so I'd expect him to start. Chadwick has not been getting minutes, but I would expect Bryce to give him a chance to spell Vashil, briefly in the first half, then maybe at the end of the game, if possible. If the game is too close, he won't get much of a chance to play. I don't foresee this being a problem - he'll get some good end of game minutes.
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I think he starts. You don't "honor" a guy by giving him some end of game minutes. I really don't expect much of a game from WSU as supposedly they are starting walk-ons.
First place is on the line, no 1 seed, hosting the tournament - all on line. What if wee lose this game and then swan dive like the Cory/BWood team? Chadwick hasn't played in how many games? How much did he play when he did play? How would starting him affect team chemistry and normal rotations? What if we get down by 10 right off the bat and give WSU confidence they wouldn't have had? Every team has 1 best game. What if this is WSU's best game? Play him at the end of the game - if it's meaningless to the outcome - period.
The start may mean something to the player. I think that end of game minutes, with a last second substitution to an ovation from the crowd, would be more of a memory maker, emotions and all.
Quote from: wh on February 20, 2015, 11:10:23 AM
First place is on the line, no 1 seed, hosting the tournament - all on line. What if wee lose this game and then swan dive like the Cory/BWood team? Chadwick hasn't played in how many games? How much did he play when he did play? How would starting him affect team chemistry and normal rotations? What if we get down by 10 right off the bat and give WSU confidence they wouldn't have had? Every team has 1 best game. What if this is WSU's best game? Play him at the end of the game - if it's meaningless to the outcome - period.
Just re-read my post and don't like the tone. Sounds too much like my opinion is the final word on the matter. My apologies if I offended anyone, especially my friend '72. :)
Quote from: wh on February 20, 2015, 11:10:23 AMFirst place is on the line, no 1 seed, hosting the tournament - all on line. What if wee lose this game and then swan dive like the Cory/BWood team? Chadwick hasn't played in how many games? How much did he play when he did play? How would starting him affect team chemistry and normal rotations? What if we get down by 10 right off the bat and give WSU confidence they wouldn't have had? Every team has 1 best game. What if this is WSU's best game?
Take a deep, deep breath and relaaaxxxx. If we can not spot this WSU team a 6 point lead and still win then I would rate our chances for a tourney championship as very slim.
My opinion--- if Chadwick can walk then Chadwick will start.
Doesn't Bryce usually get the seniors a start earlier in the year? I bet he doesn't start and we might not even see him if the game is close.
VU 78 WSU 64 Chadwick Starts We play with class and win! :)
Quote from: HC on February 20, 2015, 12:57:44 PM
Doesn't Bryce usually get the seniors a start earlier in the year? I bet he doesn't start and we might not even see him if the game is close.
Bryce has only had 2 seasons with a senior on the roster. In those seasons they were Rowdy and Co. which started 5 seniors every night and Capo-Coleman-Moussa-Dority. Now Moussa-Dority started every game at the end of the season, but on senior night Capo-Coleman got more playing time and a start. I don't see why he doesn't start Chadwick, we're playing a team that might start a walk-on and has lost to YSU. I wouldn't be surprised if this game is similar to UWM at home.
The spread: Valpo -14.5
Valpo's Keith Carter stays upbeat, on upswing in comeback
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-st-0221-20150220-story.html (http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-mens-basketball-valparaiso-st-0221-20150220-story.html)
Quote from: VUfan on February 20, 2015, 01:31:32 PM
VU 78 WSU 64 Chadwick Starts We play with class and win! :)
Bryce is a class act and the Seniors will start unless Chadwick is physically unable to play. The team will be very psyched for Vashil and Chadwick and will want to make this a special night for the two of them. I think the team would be disappointed if the seniors didn't start.
Quote from: FWalum on February 21, 2015, 01:15:26 AM
Quote from: VUfan on February 20, 2015, 01:31:32 PM
VU 78 WSU 64 Chadwick Starts We play with class and win! :)
Bryce is a class act and the Seniors will start unless Chadwick is physically unable to play. The team will be very psyched for Vashil and Chadwick and will want to make this a special night for the two of them. I think the team would be disappointed if the seniors didn't start.
If starting him makes Bryce a "class act," then not starting him makes him a "classless act?" Of course not. The only reason Bryce wouldn't start Chadwick is if he felt that starting him might even in a small way put the outcome of the game at risk. That wouldn't make him classless. It would mean that he isn't willing to put a feel good moment for an individual player over the best interests of the team. That's the way a good leader is supposed to think.
If the first minutes of this game determines the winner then we don't deserve to win.
Valpo by 12. To say the obvious, next week will be interesting.
You guys have to be kidding me with Chadwick starting on senior night. Of course he should start and play a few minutes. It will have no impact on the result.
I gotta know. Are you guys saying Chadwick should start knowing we're playing WSU, or are you saying he should start regardless of the opponent or how critical the game is?
I once told Homer that I liked our program because we do right by the kids in the program first. I am saying that Chadwick should start on senior night. And I would say that no matter the opponent because my dad taught me that the route is more important than the destination
If Chadwick is healthy, he is more than capable of starting and playing a few minutes to see how it goes. If we get out to a 5-0 or 6-0 hole, Bryce will rectify it quickly, and try to get him more minutes at the end. We can't take WSU lightly, EVER! Their defense always causes us problems, regardless of who is on the court.
Senior night. Seniors start. Period.
62, you are the man
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 21, 2015, 09:27:10 AM
You guys have to be kidding me with Chadwick starting on senior night. Of course he should start and play a few minutes. It will have no impact on the result.
A similar sort of possibly risky tribute, UNC ran their first possession in a 4 Corners offense as a tribute to the late Dean Smith. Got them a layup.
David Chadwick deserves the start and probably will. The team needs to remember though what happened to Oakland at Milwaukee and what happened to Cleveland State at Detroit. VU is on a 6 game win streak while Wright State is on a 6 game losing streak. We win this game and Green bay is out of the picture at least for us. So they need to play smart and avoid any injury. Yes play Keith at least 20 minutes. Go VU.
I read a tweet that said Hopkins has his warm-ups on, as well as another guy that has been injured. We can't take this game lightly.
Of course you do not take this game lightly. In tradition of many schools on senior night, start Chadwick and if he is not playing at the level to be effective, then take him out after a few minutes. This should be no big deal and should certainly not effect the outcome.
BREAKING: Chadwick starts, game is not lost
Crowd's big. As big as GB? Not as lively, no surprise.
Police enforcing parking ban on McIntyre for first time that I've noticed. Scared me out if using it as a through street.
Not a great-shooting half, but 0 FTA doesn't help.
I ain't skeered. Second half we come out and handle them.
Valpo has let Wright St. play their game thus far. Need to adjust and flex their collective muscle in the second half.
Does the game looks as rough in person as it does from my couch? Can't blame Drew for yelling, I'm worried someone's going to get hurt out there.
2 total ft attempts???
Quote from: crusader05 on February 21, 2015, 07:52:23 PM
Does the game looks as rough in person as it does from my couch? Can't blame Drew for yelling, I'm worried someone's going to get hurt out there.
Pretty physical for sure. I don't know if the officiating's been uneven, exactly. Maybe we could have benefited from a couple of no calls. One time they were throwing elbows under the net to clear out a rebound, I thought they could have been called for it.
We're on track for our 51 and 10. But, I'd just as soon get there sooner rather than later.
Was that HL tourney ticket sales they just announced? Id just as soon we had this game in hand first, at least!
There's the 10!
and I quote the color guy:
Quotethe last thing Valpo fans want to see is Keith Carter grabbing any portion of his lower extremities
cut to everyone nodding vigorously
Not -that- was a bad call. Two bad calls.
How was that not off foul?
Is it me or does David Skara turn it over a lot?
#hotsprotstakes
gosh DANGIT i hate the long 2.
Nickerson and Adekoya love it. I'd bench everyone immediately who took a shot just inside the line.
ALL of the risk without the heightened reward. aaaugh.
As my wife said, "Can you do the splits and -not-travel?"
51 and 10! Bring in Chadwick!
BREAKING: Chadwick re-enters, game still won
Did Donlon call a TO so we could get Vashil in?
Quick let's look at the negative: Anyone else worried about Tevonn? Didn't seem his normal self. Hoping he's ok--there was speculation of an ankle injury.
All right, enough of that. How about running the HL table at home for the first time in forever? #frozenreference
But they didn't put Vashil back in? What a strange...mysterious...ugly ending and really game. It's a W though, all Valpo could do this week is get to 25-4 and that's what happened! Excellent effort by WSU, they did everything in their power to pull the upset but Valpo put up just enough effort to win it.
Why didn't Vashil come back in?
I love the Jamaican flag hanging up for Vashil. Men's soccer team as 4-6 Jamaicans.
I remember a couple years ago when rowdy and company gave their speeches to the crowd. The HL played it and allowed fans from afar to watch. Espn 3 no such luck.
Should we look on the downside that Valpo hasn't won any of their last 6 by double digits, or look on the bright side that we seem to always get it done? Peters quietly going for 17-10.
It might be only me, but I'd rather see the refs put the whistle in their pocket more often (like tonight and vs. Mil last week) as opposed to having players on each side in foul trouble. Your good players are able to play more of the game, and the game flows a lot more smoothly.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 21, 2015, 09:09:41 PM
I remember a couple years ago when rowdy and company gave their speeches to the crowd. The HL played it and allowed fans from far watch. Espn 3 no such luck.
And we missed Vashil's proposal! Congrats to the happy couple!
Quote from: govalpogo on February 21, 2015, 09:16:30 PMAnd we missed Vashil's proposal! Congrats to the happy couple!
good thing he's the only one who does rejections
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Vashil!!
I'd rather the refs call the game right. WSU had to play that physical and hope the refs let it go to stay in it. Did anyone else see Benzinger hit Vashil with the elbow in the first half? Happened with less then 3 minutes to go when everyone was heading the other way. It looked like to me he elbows Vashil, very much intentionally, in the back. Maybe I was just seeing things.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 21, 2015, 09:09:41 PM
I remember a couple years ago when rowdy and company gave their speeches to the crowd. The HL played it and allowed fans from afar to watch. Espn 3 no such luck.
RIP HLN. I thought surely WVUR would carry them, but they came back from commercial in the middle of Vashil's, and Todd and company talked over him. Maybe we'll get it like we sometimes get presser videos?
Quote from: LaPorteAveApostle on February 21, 2015, 09:01:24 PM
Quick let's look at the negative: Anyone else worried about Tevonn? Didn't seem his normal self. Hoping he's ok--there was speculation of an ankle injury.
Was glad he at least came back in. He was very gun shy though, passing up probably three decent looks on one possession late. Hopefully he has no trouble shaking it off. Could have used his usual production in the first 30 mins .
We can expect all the fouling in the CSU game as well. Nice warm up for it.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 21, 2015, 09:07:57 PM
Why didn't Vashil come back in?
We were chanting for him - but only after Chadwick got back in. And not for as long or as intently.
Vashil did stand up once without about 10 s left, like he was going to reenter, but then sat back down. I'd actually basically given up by that point, seemed like it wasn't going to happen.
I really don't know why else Donlon called the TO with , was it 5 s left? WSU had pretty much given up by then, sone pressure but not fouling.
Donlon is the real life version of Mary Catherine Gallagher on the sidelines.
Quote from: valpotx on February 21, 2015, 06:18:37 PMI read a tweet that said Hopkins has his warm-ups on, as well as another guy that has been injured. We can't take this game lightly.
Not surprising since Hopkins played against Oakland. He might have not played due to injury in their previous game.
Quote from: HC on February 21, 2015, 09:59:16 PM
Donlon is the real life version of Mary Catherine Gallagher on the sidelines.
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Donlon is the real life version of Mary Catherine Gallagher on the sidelines.
That was funny when he fell on and moved the scorers table.
Right! Then he always stands there with his arms crossed and hands under his pits!!
As far as Tavonn I thought he must have been ill or something because he never tried to drive the lane. Even when he was given room to drive he passed the ball off. He certainly took his opportunities when he was given them against Milwaukee. Up till tonight Tavonn had showed no fear against driving the lane.
Tavonn must have some kind of fortune telling glass ball. He knew when this game was covered by the tarp. I thought we had it tarped by the time we were up by 11 points. That tarp wasn't completely tied down until the very last minute.
Was that the same Terry Wymer who was ref at the Oakland game and first "T" ed-up" Bryce at Oakland that was an official at tonight's game? Pretty interesting that he made so few calls after the 24 FT game for Felder. I have a feeling that game was like a shot heard round the NCAA in the officials' world.
Terry Wymer did not officiate tonight's game at Valpo, but he did officiate last year's national championship game.
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Any one knows what was Bryce Teed for? what was he complaining about?
Quote from: ValpoFan on February 22, 2015, 12:12:24 AM
Any one knows what was Bryce Teed for? what was he complaining about?
The Tech happened right after Skara was sent out of bounds into the Raider bench after David shot a three. Bryce must have been convinced that Skara had been fouled or some Valpo player had been fouled.
When the ARC is packed, the atmosphere is energetic! :thumbsup:
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Quote from: ValpoFan on February 22, 2015, 12:12:24 AM
Any one knows what was Bryce Teed for? what was he complaining about?
The Tech happened right after Skara was sent out of bounds into the Raider bench after David shot a three. Bryce must have been convinced that Skara had been fouled or some Valpo player had been fouled.
Here is my photo at the moment of contact on Skara during his shot, followed by three images of Bryce's reaction:
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Quote from: bbtds on February 22, 2015, 01:54:23 AM
Quote from: ValpoFan on February 22, 2015, 12:12:24 AM
Any one knows what was Bryce Teed for? what was he complaining about?
The Tech happened right after Skara was sent out of bounds into the Raider bench after David shot a three. Bryce must have been convinced that Skara had been fouled or some Valpo player had been fouled.
Bryce was outraged by the lack of calls in general, but he pointed out the no-call on Skara and the play before. He was shouting "That's two!"
The play before, Alec's elbow was hit as he took a shot inside the lane and the ball ticked off the front of the rim. But I think Bryce was upset because he and the official had the same angle on Skara's shot...and the photo evidence speaks volumes.
I am usually okay with fewer foul calls but if it affects a shot I think it should be called. AND the reason Bryce was upset - is easy to see. There were a bunch of no calls on our shots. Alec got hit on almost every shot he took in the first half. The pervious four times down before the tech call Alec missed inside shots because they were pushing him around while he was shooting.
Again - our league just seems inconsistent on how they will officiate a game. However in this game at least they were consistent for "the entire game"... Some games it seems like nothing is called all game and then the last 5 minutes the zebras call 20 fouls.
Crowd: 5,050 !! (biggest I can find since the 2/14/12 game with B**ler at 5,237. (but I'm missing last year's stats... )
Got to say it was really nice seeing the place so full. ..... wish that was the norm
Hope it's not the last game at the ARC this year.
I'm just glad that Vashil's girlfriend said yes. If she would've said no then the kid would be devastated and our season pretty much over. I know I read into stuff too much lol
I was unable to watch the game lat night, so I watched the replay this morning. Refs definitely let them play, but it was an even call. I thought we fouled Karena multiple times without a call. Seemed to me like they focused most of their body contact on Carter and Peters. Seems like they got hand checked and body bumped multiple times every single time they got the ball. As somebody else said, I think this was a good warm-up for what we will see at CSU, especially for Carter!
As for why this game was so close. WSU played this game with the intensity of a championship game. Had I been a 1st time fan without any idea of records, I would have said that WSU was well above .500. Aside from a few missed open 3 pointers, I don't think they could have played a much better game than they did last night. They will be a lot better next year if they can get healthy.
I believe it is time for Carter to return to starting point guard. He still appears to be a little hesitant on the drive, but otherwise he is looking pretty good.
Great photos as usual, Valpopal! Love the ones of the ARC filled with people! :thumbsup:
Quote from: SanityLost17 on February 22, 2015, 10:39:45 AMI believe it is time for Carter to return to starting point guard. He still appears to be a little hesitant on the drive, but otherwise he is looking pretty good.
Given the short amount of time remaining I am no longer 100% sure that he will be able to regain his pre injury level of play and judgement. The tradeoff to this is the additional improvement of Tevonn, E. Victor, Max and the rest of the team. There are no instruction manuals on how to reintroduce a star to competition without creating some questions, uncertainties about role and "what is best for team" functions. There is no one correct answer and we will have trust that Bryce has given this more thought than maybe all of us put together. I remain optimistic about the positive effects of his return but that does not prevent me from being very nervous.
Congrats VASHIL!!!:):)
P.s. Good win Valpo
Quote from: gamelord on February 22, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
I'm just glad that Vashil's girlfriend said yes. If she would've said no then the kid would be devastated and our season pretty much over. I know I read into stuff too much lol
Did you notice his girlfriend left the baby in the stands when Vashil asked her to make her way to the court. Maybe her parents helped Vashil. OTOH, you never know what happens in people's minds when that fateful moment arrives. Just like live reality television anything can happen. Congratulations to Vashil and family. It couldn't have happened to a better guy.
Great pictures!
Can anyone offer an idea as to why suddenly Valpo gets a huge crowd? I know that it was senior night, but did it just suddenly dawn on a bunch of people that Valpo was 24-4 (now 25-4) with votes in the AP rankings and thought they could drive the 15-30 minutes to go see a game? It is certainly not that Wright State was a great draw.
Quote from: vu84v2 on February 22, 2015, 04:50:31 PM
Great pictures!
Can anyone offer an idea as to why suddenly Valpo gets a huge crowd? I know that it was senior night, but did it just suddenly dawn on a bunch of people that Valpo was 24-4 (now 25-4) with votes in the AP rankings and thought they could drive the 15-30 minutes to go see a game? It is certainly not that Wright State was a great draw.
Possibly last home game of the season, or bandwagoners. ;)
Crowd exceeded my expectation by maybe 800. I did not see any of the people that in the past start tagging along for the tournament so maybe it will even get better.
Quote from: justducky on February 22, 2015, 05:05:31 PM
Crowd exceeded my expectation by maybe 800. I did not see any of the people that in the past start tagging along for the tournament so maybe it will even get better.
We need to set up another bleacher across from the student section that's the same size. Not that long skinny one they normally use...
Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 22, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
Quote from: justducky on February 22, 2015, 05:05:31 PM
Crowd exceeded my expectation by maybe 800. I did not see any of the people that in the past start tagging along for the tournament so maybe it will even get better.
We need to set up another bleacher across from the student section that's the same size. Not that long skinny one they normally use...
That would be nice for when the HL inexplicably invents random rules that force our student section to the other side despite other schools not being held to the same standard.
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Quote from: a3uge on February 22, 2015, 05:18:17 PM
Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 22, 2015, 05:07:45 PM
Quote from: justducky on February 22, 2015, 05:05:31 PM
Crowd exceeded my expectation by maybe 800. I did not see any of the people that in the past start tagging along for the tournament so maybe it will even get better.
We need to set up another bleacher across from the student section that's the same size. Not that long skinny one they normally use...
That would be nice for when the HL inexplicably invents random rules that force our student section to the other side despite other schools not being held to the same standard.
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Do you have an idea why they make us and not other schools? Is it because the student section is so close to the other teams bench?
Time to lessen expectations... The students will be on spring break the first two weeks of March.
Since valpo is becoming a regular host, maybe we should think about moving spring break on the calendar.
Quote from: justducky on February 22, 2015, 05:05:31 PM
Crowd exceeded my expectation by maybe 800. I did not see any of the people that in the past start tagging along for the tournament so maybe it will even get better.
Last night's crowd was 5050 Valpo-only fans. Imagine the tournament semi-finals when even more Valpo fans want to come - plus fans from 3 other teams. Even with extra bleachers and SRO, the place will be a packed-to-the-rafters sell-out. People will be standing 4 deep around the track. The atmosphere will be hot, loud, and intense. You'll be able to cut the tension with a knife. This is big time!
Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 22, 2015, 04:55:13 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on February 22, 2015, 04:50:31 PM
Great pictures!
Can anyone offer an idea as to why suddenly Valpo gets a huge crowd? I know that it was senior night, but did it just suddenly dawn on a bunch of people that Valpo was 24-4 (now 25-4) with votes in the AP rankings and thought they could drive the 15-30 minutes to go see a game? It is certainly not that Wright State was a great draw.
Possibly last home game of the season, or bandwagoners. ;)
I usually go to 5-6 games every year, but due to my schedule this is the first one I was able to attend. Yes, the possibility of it maybe being the last home game for sure had something to do with the attendance. I've never seen parking so full. The cops blocking off McIntire Street caused a lot of traffic confusion. I always cut through there to get to the big main lot east of there. Had me thinking they were forcing everyone to use the old hospital parking garage and weren't allowing any campus parking.
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Quote from: gamelord on February 22, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
I'm just glad that Vashil's girlfriend said yes. If she would've said no then the kid would be devastated and our season pretty much over. I know I read into stuff too much lol
Did you notice his girlfriend left the baby in the stands when Vashil asked her to make her way to the court. Maybe her parents helped Vashil. OTOH, you never know what happens in people's minds when that fateful moment arrives. Just like live reality television anything can happen. Congratulations to Vashil and family. It couldn't have happened to a better guy.
Someone (grandparents I'd assume) took baby as soon as Vashil called her down
I'm feeling really old, or at least, way out of touch. As I reviewed pictures from the Senior night, I saw Vashil together with his girlfriend (who said yes!!) and--their BABY!! It reminded me of Eric Buggs and his baby.
The point is that in my day, college players were NOT parents, or husbands. Times have changed as has the coaching necessary to deal with kids who chose a path other then that which is considered "traditional". We have kids with one parent, or players with babies, or players with wives, who have more important priorities to Valpo basketball. It surely isn't easy. Blessing to them all!!
Have covered multiple high schools this year where players have kids.
The last two times the ARC hosted the tourney during spring break and the allotted amount of student tickets (200 or 300?) were used. Not too worried if Valpo were to host again as this year's team has a much more gaudy record and more national attention.
Quote from: Pgmado on February 22, 2015, 07:57:36 PM
Have covered multiple high schools this year where players have kids.
And we wonder why society is out of control.
Quote from: govalpogo on February 22, 2015, 08:24:08 PM
The last two times the ARC hosted the tourney during spring break and the allotted amount of student tickets (200 or 300?) were used. Not too worried if Valpo were to host again as this year's team has a much more gaudy record and more national attention.
Have they given out free tickets in the past? I don't recall, but I'm glad they're doing it this year.
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I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong...but I believe students got the freebies in the past, maybe a the first few hundred or something, but the staff and faculty have to pay for these games.
Quote from: HC on February 22, 2015, 08:45:18 PMbut the staff and faculty have to pay for these games.
Yeah, I remember that part ;) But happy to do it.
The timing looks somewhat poor for us. I might be looking for a sports bar for the semi-final, but should be at the final, probably with the kids.
Why a sports bar? Out of town that night?
Quote from: HC on February 22, 2015, 08:52:43 PM
Why a sports bar? Out of town that night?
Yeah, exactly. A not-very-densely-populated bit of Long Island. Maybe the place I'm staying will have the U. Otherwise, we'll see about finding a venue...
Vashil ought to save that picture for his daughter's prom date.
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Mr. Fernandez:
Son, now that you have seen my gun collection, you can look at this picture of me as a college basketball player. Did I tell you I could block just about any shot on the court. Yes, I'm exceptionally good at blocking things.
Quote from: Pgmado on February 22, 2015, 07:57:36 PM
Have covered multiple high schools this year where players have kids.
Yeesh...but teen pregnancy is honestly not the problem in our society.
Unwed preganancy...now
there's our problem.
My wife, who went to HS with Amar'e Stoudemire, said her HS had an onsite day-care center.
Hm. I believe the appositive and the indirect quotation in the previous sentence are unrelated.
Not to get off topic, but without looking at the stats it seemed Vashil didn't play a whole lot. Was it that he wasn't very effective (mind elsewhere perhaps) or Jubril was the better matchup on this night?
Quote from: HC on February 22, 2015, 09:27:01 PM
Not to get off topic, but without looking at the stats it seemed Vashil didn't play a whole lot. Was it that he wasn't very effective (mind elsewhere perhaps) or Jubril was the better matchup on this night?
Nothing really stood out to me. Jubril was just on the court when we had our little spurt and I believe Bryce rolled with what was working.
I'm not sure where to ask this so I'll just post this here. Do they name the horizon league awards as soon as the season is over? Before the tournament starts?
Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 22, 2015, 10:19:59 PM
I'm not sure where to ask this so I'll just post this here. Do they name the horizon league awards as soon as the season is over? Before the tournament starts?
Before the tournament starts. Probably the announcement will be Monday March 2.
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Quote from: HC on February 22, 2015, 08:45:18 PMbut the staff and faculty have to pay for these games.
Yeah, I remember that part ;) But happy to do it.
The timing looks somewhat poor for us. I might be looking for a sports bar for the semi-final, but should be at the final, probably with the kids.
Argh... my flight's not quite so early as I thought. It may all be a scramble... Should at least have radio for the final?
I have posted a gallery with 50 photos from the game and Senior Night at the following: enjoy! https://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157650568038860/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96208998@N05/sets/72157650568038860/)
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Quote from: agibson on February 22, 2015, 11:08:34 PMQuote from: agibson on February 22, 2015, 08:46:46 PMQuote from: HC on February 22, 2015, 08:45:18 PMbut the staff and faculty have to pay for these games.
Yeah, I remember that part ;) But happy to do it. The timing looks somewhat poor for us. I might be looking for a sports bar for the semi-final, but should be at the final, probably with the kids.
Argh... my flight's not quite so early as I thought. It may all be a scramble... Should at least have radio for the final?
Call ahead to the motel. If the night clerk is not so busy they can find the channel line-up in one of the rooms and let you know if they get the ESPN channel you need.
Quote from: bbtds on February 22, 2015, 09:07:08 PMVashil ought to save that picture for his daughter's prom date. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-fHW6bCEAAuGKS.jpg) Mr. Fernandez: Son, now that you have seen my gun collection, you can look at this picture of me as a college basketball player. Did I tell you I could block just about any shot on the court. Yes, I'm exceptionally good at blocking things.
There was one thing I didn't block very well......and it won't happen again.
Guess the one thing I didn't focus on with Wright State is that Grant Benzinger is the son of Todd Benzinger, former Reds 1B who caught the last out of the 1990 World Series sweep of the A's. Wright State seems to collect former MLB sons -- Tabler before.
valpo84, I thought Todd Benzinger was a pitcher on that 1990 Cincinnati Reds team, and Paul O'Neill was the 1st baseman?
Nevermind, I just looked at Baseball Almanac, and I was completely and totally dead wrong. 25 years since that team won will do that, I guess.
Quote from: drewsaders11 on February 21, 2015, 09:11:26 PM
Should we look on the downside that Valpo hasn't won any of their last 6 by double digits, or look on the bright side that we seem to always get it done? Peters quietly going for 17-10.
It might be only me, but I'd rather see the refs put the whistle in their pocket more often (like tonight and vs. Mil last week) as opposed to having players on each side in foul trouble. Your good players are able to play more of the game, and the game flows a lot more smoothly.
You'd like to see players injuring each other?
I'd like to see the referees do their jobs: call every foul that is committed, according to the rule book.
Quote from: Valpofan00 on February 22, 2015, 05:21:13 PMDo you have an idea why they make us and not other schools? Is it because the student section is so close to the other teams bench?
I don't believe that's true. I believe every school is required to do this if they host.
Quote from: valpo84 on February 23, 2015, 10:31:52 AM
Guess the one thing I didn't focus on with Wright State is that Grant Benzinger is the son of Todd Benzinger, former Reds 1B who caught the last out of the 1990 World Series sweep of the A's. Wright State seems to collect former MLB sons -- Tabler before.
Todd Benzinger has attended a number of Wright St games this year including the Valpo @ WSU game. Although like many famous athletes he is hard to recognize because of a greater abundance of gray hairs.
Another interesting fact. Todd Benzinger was born in Dayton,
KENTUCKY.
Couple vines:
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And last weeks throwback thursday:
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Quote from: a3uge on February 23, 2015, 10:40:35 PMAnd last weeks throwback thursday:https://twitter.com/valpovines/status/568405285351657472
Ouch! Was a foul called?