They are out. Alec is 1st team. Vashil, Tevonn, Darien 2nd team. Felder POY.
VALPO
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8 (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8)
HORIZON
http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll (http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll)
<insert annual rank about how stupid it is to hand out awards before a single minute is played>
Still, those 7 people that didn't vote Valpo as finishing #1 should have their credentials revoked.
Quote from: a3uge on October 14, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
<insert annual rank about how stupid it is to hand out awards before a single minute is played>
Still, those 7 people that didn't voted Valpo as finishing #1 should have their credentials revoked.
Everyone back from last year's conf. Season/ tournament champs, 2 new players who could start for any other team in the league, and a 7-1 3-star IN HS All-Star freshman. Oh, and 4 of the top 10 players in the pre-season poll.
No one could be that stupid as to vote for anyone other than Valpo. It has to be a handful of clowns who think that showing childlike loyalty to "their" program should trump their obligation to use their brain. Proof positive of a longstanding management principle that 10% of people in every profession are laggards and losers.
Quote from: a3uge on October 14, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
<insert annual rank about how stupid it is to hand out awards before a single minute is played>
Still, those 7 people that didn't vote Valpo as finishing #1 should have their credentials revoked.
7 out of 43 voters?? If Vashil were not coming back I could understand having 16% voting for some other team. Does the Detroit voter know something about a change in HC in the next few weeks?
Quote from: wh on October 14, 2015, 02:43:50 PM
Quote from: a3uge on October 14, 2015, 02:02:55 PM
<insert annual rank about how stupid it is to hand out awards before a single minute is played>
Still, those 7 people that didn't voted Valpo as finishing #1 should have their credentials revoked.
Everyone back from last year's conf. Season/ tournament champs, 2 new players who could start for any other team in the league, and a 7-1 3-star IN HS All-Star freshman. Oh, and 4 of the top 10 players in the pre-season poll.
No one could be that stupid as to vote for anyone other than Valpo. It has to be a handful of clowns who think that showing childlike loyalty to "their" program should trump their obligation to use their brain. Proof positive of a longstanding management principle that 10% of people in every profession are laggards and losers.
Couldn't agree more. This is a pre-season poll. How can you vote against a team that returns all starters? Even if you thin the incoming talent will make their team better, it is totally unproven. The only known fact is that Valpo is the reigning champ and returns everyone. The poll thus becomes a joke.
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 14, 2015, 01:50:18 PMThey are out. Alec is 1st team. Vashil, Tevonn, Darien 2nd team. Elder POY. VALPO http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8 (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8) HORIZON http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll (http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll)
You mean F(oul)elder.
Quote from: historyman on October 14, 2015, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on October 14, 2015, 01:50:18 PMThey are out. Alec is 1st team. Vashil, Tevonn, Darien 2nd team. Felder POY. VALPO http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8 (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/14946/crusaders-picked-to-win-horizon-league-four-named-preseason-all-league/#.Vh6j2da4ko8) HORIZON http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll (http://www.horizonleague.org/blog/valparaiso-tabbed-horizon-league-favorite-felder-voted-player-of-the-year-in-preseason-poll)
You mean F(oul)elder.
Yep. Fixed it.
Everything you need to know about Horizon League Media Day
http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/thoughts-from-horizon-league-media-day/article_4f9aaf5a-7370-11e5-b6ab-aba7e0fe287e.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/thoughts-from-horizon-league-media-day/article_4f9aaf5a-7370-11e5-b6ab-aba7e0fe287e.html)
Quote from: Pgmado on October 15, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
Everything you need to know about Horizon League Media Day
http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/thoughts-from-horizon-league-media-day/article_4f9aaf5a-7370-11e5-b6ab-aba7e0fe287e.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/blogs/sports/inside-vu-sports/thoughts-from-horizon-league-media-day/article_4f9aaf5a-7370-11e5-b6ab-aba7e0fe287e.html)
So who starts for the Crusaders? Oh, perhaps a better question at this point--who are the five most talented players on our squad?
From Commish:
http://udtitanbasketball.freeforums.net/post/4849 (http://udtitanbasketball.freeforums.net/post/4849)
Reposting this little aggregate table on Horizon predictions here at the bottom of the thread. Basically, a team gets 10 points for first, 9 for second, etc. down to one point for a last place prediction. Where a publication did not predict the entire standings, I gave all the unranked teams 0 points, and then the last ranked team 1 point, next to last ranked team 2 points, etc.
Poll/Team Valpo OU Mil. UD WSU GB CSU UIC YSU NKU
Horizon League Poll 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
Blue Ribbon 10 8 9 7 5 6 4 2 3 1
Athlon 10 9 7 6 3 8 5 4 2 1
Lindys 10 9 8 6 7 5 4 2 3 1
ESPN 3 2 1 - - - - - - -
Ken Pomeroy 10 7 5 6 9 8 4 1 2 3
NBC Sports 10 9 8 6 7 5 3 4 2 1
Sporting News 9 10 7 8 4 6 5 3 2 1
CBS Sports 10 9 7 6 8 5 4 2 1 3
USA Today 10 8 9 7 5 6 4 3 2 1
Catch & Shoot 10 9 8 6 7 5 3 4 2 1
High Def Hoops 10 8 9 6 7 5 1 4 2 3
Starting @ Floorboards 10 9 8 7 4 5 6 3 1 2
Sports Illustrated 10 9 6 8 5 7 4 2 1 3
Sagarin 10 9 7 6 4 8 5 3 2 1
Sports Madness 3 2 1 - - - - - - -
Total 145 126 108 92 81 84 56 40 27 23
That gives us a "consensus" order of finish as of 11/12 of
1. Valparaiso
2. Oakland
3. Milwaukee
4. Detroit
5. Green Bay
6. Wright State
7. Cleveland State
8. UIC
9. Youngstown State
10. Northern Kentucky
Consensus All-Conference (2 points for 1st team selection, 1 point second team)
Alec Peters, Valparaiso (POY) - 16
Kahlil Felder, Oakland - 16
Matt Tiby, Milwaukee - 14
Paris Bass, Detroit - 14
JT Yoho, Wright State - 9
Bobby Hain, Youngstown - 7
Jordan Fouse, Green Bay - 6
Vashil Fernandez, Valparaiso - 5
Tevonn Walker, Valparaiso - 3
Joe Thomasson, Wright State - 2
Akeem Springs, Milwaukee - 2
Jalen Hayes, Oakland - 2
Darien Walker, Valparaiso - 1
Read more: http://udtitanbasketball.freeforums.net/post/4849#ixzz3rJBX6W4C (http://udtitanbasketball.freeforums.net/post/4849#ixzz3rJBX6W4C)