Here are their stats year to date... most promising number: Average Home Attendance is 406
http://www.gocsucougars.com/cumestats.aspx?path=mbball&year=2015& (http://www.gocsucougars.com/cumestats.aspx?path=mbball&year=2015&)
and here is the complete list of their D1 wins this year:
Same list... alphabetized:
Their Starting Line-up in their last game against DePaul (Lost by 24)
Jawad Adekoya From Tinley Park Illinois 6-6 Senior, 17 points 2 rebounds
Quron Davis, 6-10 Jr, 10 points 7 rebounds
Elliott Cole, 5-11 Guard, 9 points 6 rebounds
Trayvon Palmer 6-5, Fwd 4 points 3 rebounds
Joshua Batson, 6-0 Guard, 4 points 4 rebounds
Fred Sims Jr, 6-4 Guard off the bench for 32 minutes, 22 points, 6 rebounds
They have one other player over 6-6, and he played the last 3 minutes of the game.... and got nothing by 2 fouls!
They should have probably beat Illinois, which is lol. This game will tank our RPI and SOS.
Playing UIC TWICE will hurt more... their RPI is an atrocious 344... and they have 4 more OOC losses coming up to Illinois, Illinois State, Loyola and Northern Illinois...
Quote from: talksalot on December 09, 2015, 08:55:33 PM
Jawad Adekoya From Tinley Park Illinois 6-6 Senior, 17 points 2 rebounds
Are Jawad and Jubril related?
Yes, along with another; Jabbar, Jawad, and Jubril are brothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yDxgWpxgnE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yDxgWpxgnE)
Looks like the tickets might be gone. Does anybody care to speculate on how many are in VU fans hands?
Heads-up warning... this is another of those games where historically we have not done as well as others. Game #11 of the season, we are 14-15 in the past 29 seasons.... one of the few we are still below .500...Three straight D1 2-point losses in game #11 of the season.
Last year... we beat Trinity Intl 79-54...
two years ago... we lost at HOME to St.Louis (still hurts) 67-65
three years ago... we lost at Oakland 70-68
four years ago...we lost at HOME to Oakland 82-80
Need to get up and stay up!!
Quote from: Valpower on December 09, 2015, 09:22:43 PM
Yes, along with another; Jabbar, Jawad, and Jubril are brothers.
Cool! The announcers were pronouncing it a little differently than Todd does, but I'd noticed the similar name on the DePaul telecast.
I figure the game's worth scheduling just for that. A sort of homecoming/family matchup for Jubril. Hopefully he's feeling better and can play more significant minutes.
At least the game's on the road. Not as good for our fans, but it won't hurt our RPI as much as some home HL games.
Of course, we'd better win!
Looks like there will be a video stream, via WAC Sports. (WAC!) Not sure about an archive.
I'd consider taking the road trip, but Advent Christmas Vespers is on. (And soccer practice, besides.)
I'm not well set up to record WVUR currently... Might resort to "leave the phone, recording, by the radio".
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Quote from: agibson on December 10, 2015, 12:05:37 PM
Cool! The announcers were pronouncing it a little differently than Todd does, but I'd noticed the similar name on the DePaul telecast.
I figure the game's worth scheduling just for that. A sort of homecoming/family matchup for Jubril. Hopefully he's feeling better and can play more significant minutes.
At least the game's on the road. Not as good for our fans, but it won't hurt our RPI as much as some home HL games.
Of course, we'd better win!
I never missed that game when I lived in Chicago. It was a nice treat for Chicago-area Valpo fans like me that were used to making that hair-raising race to get to Valparaiso before 7:15 PM tip-off. Plus it was practically a home game as far as fan representation.
Quote from: agibson on December 10, 2015, 12:38:02 PM
Looks like there will be a video stream, via WAC Sports. (WAC!) Not sure about an archive.
Apparently no archive. They say they're considering archives, but at first probably only for the championship (tournament? game?).
Might be "phone recording the radio broadcast".
We need to stay healthy, and find some combo's on offense that work. After the first half last night I was thinking "don't take that 2-pointer - step out and take a 3!"
Valpo 78
Chi St 54
Valpo wins 76-57
Valpo 81 Chicago State 59
Attendance: 749
Quote from: vu84v2 on December 11, 2015, 09:31:04 AMAttendance: 749
I'll take the under, but not by much. I like this guess!
Play Hard help Defense and the game is easy if not we make it hard. VU 78 CSU 62
I am leaving in about 30 minutes to start traveling to the game. ... I am getting tickets at the door - I guess.
Is Tevonn still out? Like to see us find our offense early. ... That is something Tevonn seemed to do for us quite often.
Go Valpo!
Quote from: covufan on December 11, 2015, 10:02:21 AM
Quote from: vu84v2 on December 11, 2015, 09:31:04 AMAttendance: 749
I'll take the under, but not by much. I like this guess!
700 vu fans
49 csu fans
I hope. ....
Go Valpo!
Quote from: Smj on December 11, 2015, 03:07:46 PMI am leaving in about 30 minutes to start traveling to the game. ... I am getting tickets at the door - I guess. Is Tevonn still out? Like to see us find our offense early. ... That is something Tevonn seemed to do for us quite often. Go Valpo!
If Tevonn was out Wednesday, I'd be quite surprised if we see him tonight against an opponent such as CSU. Someone (agibson?) mentioned in the In. St. game thread that he heard Tevonn may be out another week yet... Have not heard anything official for this evening, however.
I hate playing those games where win or lose, your RPI will go down :(
Quote from: Smj on December 11, 2015, 03:07:46 PM
I am leaving in about 30 minutes to start traveling to the game. ... I am getting tickets at the door - I guess.
Is Tevonn still out? Like to see us find our offense early. ... That is something Tevonn seemed to do for us quite often.
Go Valpo!
Bryce mentioned is his weekly preview that Tevonn had practiced a couple of days and that he was a game time decision against Ind State. My guess is he won't play as most likely he won't be needed and to give him a few more days of rest. If he is pretty solid I would think he may get a few minutes just ot get his game legs under him prior to our next game where he will be needed.
This is like your Kobayashi Maru, basically a no win scenario.
Valpo 90 Chi-State 55
Less than 100 people here - including players and coaches. No students. No band.
Nice venue.
FWIW from a rookie poster here...
Feel that the game plan was to try to work on the 3PT% with all of the threes that we are attempting (and making). Good to see us working on our outside shooting, which I feel has been somewhat lacking compared to last year.
We lose the ball off the dribble a lot. I would hate to keep a running count of how many time a post player loses the ball after putting it on the floor or a guard loses it in only semi-congested traffic going to the basket. Seems like this is where the majority of our turnovers come from.
Quote from: wh on December 11, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
Less than 100 people here - including players and coaches. No students. No band.
Nice venue.
Welcome to D-I basketball???? WHat the heck????? How does a school like CSU qualify for D-I?
I'm really not sure who's winning tonight, the Crougars or the Cougsaders. Vashil sure is getting a lot of floor time. I keep hearing his name getting called.
Quote from: historyman on December 11, 2015, 08:47:22 PMVashil sure is getting a lot of floor time. I keep hearing his name getting called.
I only caught the last four minutes of game time on video. Sort of. A bit of it was flowing OK, a few stutters. Then it went into sort of a stop motion, vocal game call illustrated by occasional photographs of game action.
Didn't seem like Vashil was in (Skara maybe, Davidson for sure, Adekoya I think, then Levingston Simon came in). But his name was getting called.
Almost too bad they took Keith out. When's the last time Valpo had an assist double-double?
Quote from: historyman on December 11, 2015, 08:47:22 PM
I'm really not sure who's winning tonight, the Crougars or the Cougsaders. Vashil sure is getting a lot of floor time. I keep hearing his name getting called.
Don't even go there, historyman; so many flubs, so little time.
Chicago State having a game on a Friday night in high school basketball rich Chicago, Illinois? If there was a big crowd, then it would have meant all of the top Chicago basketball schools were playing out of state games. I missed most of the game, but this is more like how Valpo would play against Chicago State in the Mid-Con days, give or take us not overlooking them for whomever was next on the schedule.
Probably they said it on WVUR, but looks like Alec 6-6 from three ties the record. Jared Nuness at Belmont in 97, Ryan Broekhoff, most recently Matt Kenney at Detroit.
Can we transport the Jones Convocation Center to Valpo and rename it the ARC? 7000 capacity with chair backs ( It only cost $47 million taxpayer dollars). Ironic, that is the kind of venue our program should be showcased in, but it is CSU that has it and can't fill 20% of it for a top mid major opponent.
You're right that CSU can't fill it, but it makes for a bigger facility for many Chicago Public School games because the high school gyms are so small that fans are practically sitting on the court.
On the post game, Luke said he was pretty sure Tevonn would play the next game (Missouri State). Talked about an (knee?) infection, but sounded confident in the progress being made, etc. That he'd be back soon.
Quote from: agibson on December 11, 2015, 08:51:32 PMI only caught the last four minutes of game time on video. Sort of. A bit of it was flowing OK, a few stutters. Then it went into sort of a stop motion, vocal game call illustrated by occasional photographs of game action.
Just FYI, I didn't have any issues with the video feed that came through the WAC Digital Network. At one time they even used a picture-in-a-picture box which impressed me. But they only did that once and there were times the cameramen did not show the action in the corners because they didn't move the cameras far enough to the edges of the floor. I'll not mention the announcing crew except to say they did not impress me as some of the production team did.
Quote from: bbtds on December 11, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
Just FYI, I didn't have any issues with the video feed that came through the WAC Digital Network. At one time they even used a picture-in-a-picture box which impressed me. But they only did that once and there were times the cameramen did not show the action in the corners because they didn't move the cameras far enough to the edges of the floor. I'll not mention the announcing crew except to say they did not impress me as some of the production team did.
Noted. Might have been something on my end (though my connection's normally pretty solid).
During a timeout, there was something interesting going on - maybe two different feeds, one in LL corner, one in LR corner.
The broadcaster did have a certain flavor, at least.
Quote from: valporun on December 11, 2015, 09:10:22 PM
You're right that CSU can't fill it, but it makes for a bigger facility for many Chicago Public School games because the high school gyms are so small that fans are practically sitting on the court.
I always thought high schools were no longer allowed to play on college courts per NCAA rules because it gave the colleges hosting the high school games an unfair recruiting advantage. I guess the NCAA feels that until Chicago State actually gets an advantage from the situation they won't press the rules on the Cougars/Krugers.
Just listening to the replay now. But, great to see Darien go 4-9 from three, in the box.
And, as well as tying the single game 3FG% record, it looks like Alec entered the career scoring ranks at #20. He's got a shot at entering the top 10 in his junior year.
Quote from: agibson on December 11, 2015, 09:43:01 PMgreat to see Darien go 4-9 from three,
I think he was instructed to keep shooting until they start dropping. If he can get it going it should help every part of our offense. Long way for him to go to reach the over 38% choice I made in the over-under.
Jubril is now 3 of 4 from 3 for the season and I recall him dropping several in Canada as well. Sometime, somewhere, with some appropriate matchup, he might be given the green light to throw up a bunch of them.
I listened to Todd and Dave synced up with the video. It was a bit blurry at times, but otherwise, I thought it was fine (muted, that is). Actually, I sort of assumed they didn't have any announcers. I remember when CSU had no radio announcers ;)
That was the most "entertaining" broadcasting I have ever listened to. Apparently, Vashil looks like E Vic, and Jubril looks like Vashil. We played like crap, and should have beaten that team by over 30, but I'll take D Walker making some 3s, even though he is still way off his JR season form. I loved the comments at around 6 minutes left, when Chicago State was down by 20 or so, and one of the broadcasters mentioned that they weren't out of it just yet. They seemed dismayed that they were losing at home, because they were "3-0" there. Well, those 3 wins were against non-D1 teams, which they really should have known. You could hear them talking during the breaks, as they were still close enough to their mics, and I kept laughing at how surprised they were that Chicago State was not playing better. That team was pitiful guys, and we should not be happy that we only won by 18.
Only 12 min for EVN, is he ok?
I know this game hurts our rpi but, does a win on the road hurt us less then a win against them at home?
Quote from: vu72 on December 12, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
I know this game hurts our rpi but, does a win on the road hurt us less then a win against them at home?
Yes, the win on the road hurts less than it would at home.
Quote from: valpocleveland on December 12, 2015, 07:57:33 AM
Only 12 min for EVN, is he ok?
On WVUR they said something about re-aggravating his wrist injury. Attributed to sideline reporting from Paul Oren, I think.
Was it Paul's Times article that talked about him struggling to play in the brace, and the ineffective play (huge air ball 3?) hurting more than no play, etc.
Didn't sound like great news.
Quote from: valpocleveland on December 12, 2015, 07:57:33 AM
Only 12 min for EVN, is he ok?
From Paul's NWIT article:
"The Crusaders didn't escape unscathed as E. Victor Nickerson reaggravated his wrist injury in the first half and didn't return after airballing a 3-pointer from the top of the key. Nickerson came out of the game immediately and ripped off his wrist brace.
"He had the brace on in a certain way and he couldn't really use it," Drew said. "It got to the point where him trying to play was actually hurting us because he couldn't catch or do anything with the hand."
The Crusaders also played without Tevonn Walker (knee) for the fourth straight game. Drew said after the game that Walker was moving better and could possibly return next Saturday against Missouri State."
I wasn't there to see if this was a really bogus number... but the official box score:
Jones Convocation Center - Chicago, IL
Attendance: 1733
Quote from: talksalot on December 14, 2015, 11:18:42 AM
I wasn't there to see if this was a really bogus number... but the official box score:
Jones Convocation Center - Chicago, IL
Attendance: 1733
About 5 minutes before tipoff, I posted that there were about 100 people there. After accounting for late arrivals there might have been 200. 250 would be extremely generous. All tickets are general admission and are priced very reasonably at $10, so it's unlikely they have many, if any, season ticket holders to inflate the count.
It's a shame, really. They have a very nice venue with great sight lines, it's run professionally, and they play an exciting brand of basketball. Oh, and my nephew said the nachos and cheese were to die for. :)
Chicago State is an absolute disgrace. The nice venue was paid for by the state of Illinois with taxpayer money and no business or other valid reason for building it. It essentially was agreed to by democrats in the Illinois legislature to appease former Illinois Senate President Emil Jones. The stadium is perhaps one of the greatest examples of a government leader building a monument to himself.
Additionally, Chicago State as a university as of 2013 had a 4 year graduation rate of 4% and a 5 year graduation rate of 15%. Any board of regents doing their job would shut the school down or replace most all leadership. Any state governent doing their job would dismiss a board of regents that didn't take action.
I, for one, would like to have Valpo cancel their agreement to play Chicago State next season and never play them again.
Quote from: vu84v2 on December 14, 2015, 02:11:47 PM
Chicago State is an absolute disgrace. The nice venue was paid for by the state of Illinois with taxpayer money and no business or other valid reason for building it. It essentially was agreed to by democrats in the Illinois legislature to appease former Illinois Senate President Emil Jones. The stadium is perhaps one of the greatest examples of a government leader building a monument to himself.
Additionally, Chicago State as a university as of 2013 had a 4 year graduation rate of 4% and a 5 year graduation rate of 15%. Any board of regents doing their job would shut the school down or replace most all leadership. Any state governent doing their job would dismiss a board of regents that didn't take action.
I, for one, would like to have Valpo cancel their agreement to play Chicago State next season and never play them again.
Not disagreeing with you. Their athletes must be doing a lot better otherwise they would have lost scholarships etc ala Milwaukee last year.
Quote from: vu84v2 on December 14, 2015, 02:11:47 PMAdditionally, Chicago State as a university as of 2013 had a 4 year graduation rate of 4% and a 5 year graduation rate of 15%. Any board of regents doing their job would shut the school down or replace most all leadership. Any state governent doing their job would dismiss a board of regents that didn't take action.
The numbers certainly sound bad. Objectively, I don't know if they're good or bad. I'm hesitant to compare them to Valpo, for example. I suspect we serve very different populations and have very different educational missions.
Quote from: vu84v2 on December 14, 2015, 02:11:47 PM
I, for one, would like to have Valpo cancel their agreement to play Chicago State next season and never play them again.
There's an argument for getting people a game close to home. But, I do wonder if Chicago State is any better than UIC, for that purpose. (Or Loyola, Depaul, or Northwestern, have their appeals, if any would schedule us.)
I don't mind doing it once, just for the Adekoya sibling rivalry.
On the radio broadcast, Todd seemed happy to support the Chicago State program.
I think from a basketball standpoint they are doing things correctly. They have an excellent arena and a very solid coaching staff. Their team is definitely a step up from the teams they trotted out in the mid-con days. I'm hopeful they can turn the program into a .500 program, and thus it would be a good game for us. Remember there are no travel costs, and considering how well we recruit the Chicagoland area, it's nice to play a non-conference game in the city. I will say if they continue to only win 7 or 8 games a year, it's not a good game for Valpo.
Chicago State lays off all their employees (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/02/26/chicago-state-university-sends-layoff-notices-to-all-employees/)
It doesn't say when the layoff takes effect and I'm not sure what this means for the rest of their basketball season, but man is this sad to see.
This story made the Times today, but your link is more up to date about the employee statuses...
http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/25/pf/college/chicago-university-spring-break/ (http://money.cnn.com/2016/02/25/pf/college/chicago-university-spring-break/)
Sad that it has come to this, but a couple of things could be in play here. Sometimes public institutions are legally bound to give advance warning far in advance. Sometimes public institutions give everyone a layoff slip and then selectively layoff only some but have the flexibility granted by the blanket notice. And finally what better way to bring attention to the situation and place increased pressure on legislators. I believe the President at the University of Arkansas has threatened to cut the football program unless he gets his budget approved - kinda the same political ploy (except the U of A thing is so blatantly transparent). Everyone knows Chicago State is in real trouble. Edit: sorry, it was LSU, not U of A.
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 26, 2016, 03:41:46 PMAnd finally what better way to bring attention to the situation and place increased pressure on legislators.
Yes, this also absolutely has to be in play (left this off my note in the other thread).
Playing a game of chicken with the state budget, state services, public universities. What a horrible idea.
Makes the various federal shutdowns seem like a parlor game.