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Title: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on February 07, 2016, 12:06:17 PM
A reminder of the last time...

http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/15184/crusader-men-wrap-up-another-dominating-road-win/#.VreHDsv2Y5s (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/15184/crusader-men-wrap-up-another-dominating-road-win/#.VreHDsv2Y5s)

First time for them in the ARC...
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: bbtds on February 07, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Nothing is going to be easy. NKU has beaten some good teams in the conference. Not a team to be taken lightly at all.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on February 07, 2016, 10:15:03 PM
Quote from: talksalot on February 07, 2016, 12:06:17 PMFirst time for them in the ARC...

Listening to the arena lovers, NKU might be laughing under their breath.

Hopefully it can be loud, at least if needed!
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: covufan on February 08, 2016, 10:31:11 AM
Quote from: bbtds on February 07, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Nothing is going to be easy. NKU has beaten some good teams in the conference. Not a team to be taken lightly at all.
Agreed, including their last two road games with wins @ Detroit and @ Oakland.  We need to end their road win streak!

Valpo    76
NKU      52



Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: valpotx on February 08, 2016, 12:06:41 PM
Valpo 81
NKU 61
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: historyman on February 09, 2016, 01:38:04 AM
Quote from: bbtds on February 07, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Nothing is going to be easy. NKU has beaten some good teams in the conference. Not a team to be taken lightly at all.

Yep, good to see NKU being better than expected. We wouldn't want to go around and beat a dead Norse.


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Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: crusadermoe on February 09, 2016, 09:04:28 PM
Are they a Norse to be reckoned with?
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: bbtds on February 09, 2016, 09:24:48 PM
Quote from: crusadermoe on February 09, 2016, 09:04:28 PM
Are they a Norse to be reckoned with?
They could give us a tough game and put us at the horns of a dilemma.



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Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: agibson on February 09, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Star Wars.  Walker, Texas Ranger. Telegraphic communication. The possibilities are endless.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: VUfan on February 10, 2016, 12:16:58 PM
VU 82 NKU 64  to Strong for the Norskies.     ;)
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: FWalum on February 10, 2016, 12:39:29 PM
Valpo Basketball Preview for the NKU and WSU games.
   ! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M74vslMDVQM#)
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: HC on February 11, 2016, 07:46:47 AM
I'm going with 79-61
Happy Valpo Game Day!
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on February 11, 2016, 08:17:37 AM
Valpo wins 75.8 to 59.8 and maintains its scoring defense average.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: bbtds on February 11, 2016, 08:25:07 AM
I am so ready for some Valpo basketball!


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Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: FWalum on February 11, 2016, 08:57:03 AM
Would love to see Tevonn regain his stroke. It has been great watching Jubril gain so much confidence in his game over the last few outings, but I still think that we need Tevonn to be in that 12-15 ppg range in order for this offense to play more towards its potential.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on February 11, 2016, 10:11:49 AM
I hope the free pizza will get the students out tonight !
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on February 11, 2016, 10:54:42 AM
Weather forecast is for 15 degrees and clear. 0%-15% chance of precip.  Shouldn't prevent local people from coming out.  O/U 2,850.  I say over
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: HC on February 11, 2016, 11:15:11 AM
No school tomorrow either for most of the kids.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on February 11, 2016, 12:29:18 PM
Here's the NKY Game Notes... note they are celebrating their two wins over teams in the top 200 RPI for the first time...

http://www.nkunorse.com/documents/2016/2/10//NKU_MBB_GameNotes24.pdf (http://www.nkunorse.com/documents/2016/2/10//NKU_MBB_GameNotes24.pdf)

Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on February 11, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
 Heres some more from that :

• G Tyler White joined the 1,000-point club with a driving lay-up with 15:32 left in the  rst half. He now has 1,009 points.
• White is averaging career-highs in scoring (11.1) and assists (3.9).

F Jalen Billups led NKU against Milwaukee with 20 points, his  fth 20+ point effort this year. • Billups and White are climbing NKU's all-time scoring list. Billups ranks 20th w/ 1,136 points & White is No. 25 (1,009).
• Billups led the nation w/ 69.6% shooting last year, and is among the nation's leaders (t-10th) at 63.3% (126-199) this year.
• Billups ranks among NKU's all-time leaders in FG % (2nd, .634), blocks (5th, 123) & blocks per game (11th, 1.1).
• Billups' career 63.4 percent shooting ranks t-24th all-time in the NCAA.  HE IS A 6-6, 245# BULL. GOTTA DOUBLE DOWN ON HIM CLOSE TO THE RIM.

• G Cole Murray has made 68.6 percent (24-of-35) of his threes in the
last six games.
• Murray has had the hot hand from long range, shooting 49.2% (61-of-
124) from behind the arc this year, No. 4 (tied) in the nation.
  NEED TO SHUT HIM DOWN FROM THE GET-GO

Will the previous game plan be the blue print for tonight?  Worked pretty good for a 25 point margin
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on February 11, 2016, 12:51:55 PM
Deontae Cole did not play for them in the first game against us (he missed three games in a row...)... only played 4 minutes against UWM the other day; way down from the 20+ he was getting at the beginning of the year... don't know what the story is...
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: Kyle321n on February 11, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 11, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
G Tyler White
1-7 from three, 0-1 from two, 4 total points, 2 assists and 2 turnovers.

Quote from: VULB#62 on February 11, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
F Jalen Billups
We held him to 7-15 (46.7%). He was 4-11 in the first half when the game was kind of in doubt.

Quote from: VULB#62 on February 11, 2016, 12:44:40 PM
• G Cole Murray
He went 15-27 (45%) in the 4 games prior to us. We held him to 0 points and he only took 1 shot.

We did a great job on all of their key players. I expect a repeat of this result.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on February 11, 2016, 01:28:20 PM
Re: Murray --- 15-27 is not 45%; it's  55.5%. Even better!!
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: Kyle321n on February 11, 2016, 01:34:02 PM
I should stop trying to do math in my head.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on February 11, 2016, 07:19:34 PM
Go Valpo!

Slow start, but great on defense, as usual.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on February 11, 2016, 07:51:25 PM
Crickets!
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: Smj on February 11, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
Hey - who is the kids with the yellow crazy hair wig at the games? (Got to be related to a player)  - Might need to win "biggest  fan" award....

Go Valpo!
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: govalpogo on February 11, 2016, 08:33:34 PM
So frustrated with the play in the second half of these last two games.  Might as well put the end of the bench in when the rotation has been playing the way it has.  No excuse for losing halves when you win the first by around 20 points.  Please put together 40 minutes against WSU.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: frontrowfan on February 11, 2016, 09:07:46 PM
Quote from: Smj on February 11, 2016, 08:28:08 PM
Hey - who is the kids with the yellow crazy hair wig at the games? (Got to be related to a player)  - Might need to win "biggest  fan" award....

Go Valpo!
That's Cameron...he would love to hear that. 
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: frontrowfan on February 11, 2016, 09:09:59 PM
Quote from: govalpogo on February 11, 2016, 08:33:34 PM
So frustrated with the play in the second half of these last two games.  Might as well put the end of the bench in when the rotation has been playing the way it has.  No excuse for losing halves when you win the first by around 20 points.  Please put together 40 minutes against WSU.
Agree but really great offense from Keith.  Helps that he had shorter guards and could shoot over them.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: a3uge on February 11, 2016, 09:11:55 PM
Feeling a bit down about a double digit win... But I guess the 2nd place team lost at home to the same team, and then to Milwaukee by 10 at home tonight. Wright State, in sole possession of 2nd again for a couple minutes loses to UIC.

So, meh. Come out strong and whip Wright State.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: talksalot on February 11, 2016, 09:51:24 PM
They played without Lavonne Holland from the start, and Cole Murray went down fairly early in the game, sitting down at their own Free Throw line with a dismayed look on his face... and did not return.  That's two NoKy starters out with injuries.  I hope their injuries are not serious...

Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: Kyle321n on February 11, 2016, 11:21:27 PM
Quote from: govalpogo on February 11, 2016, 08:33:34 PM
So frustrated with the play in the second half of these last two games.  Might as well put the end of the bench in when the rotation has been playing the way it has.  No excuse for losing halves when you win the first by around 20 points.  Please put together 40 minutes against WSU.
It's kind of tough to get upset over a win where the outcome was only in doubt for about 5 minutes in the beginning. Relaxing, taking the fit off the pedal and coasting to a win when up 18 at the half isn't the sign of bad things to come, it's the sign of a confident team just letting their guard down. You can't expect the team to go 150 mph every half of every game? They will turn it in when needed and have shown so, I'm not worried.

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Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: nkvu on February 11, 2016, 11:42:23 PM
You know I really don't have a handle on this team. They are winning so easily in conference yet I just don't know if it's because they are better than last year or if the conference is much worse. I really can't see that T Walker and Skara have improved that much over last year.  Vashile seems to be even better defensively than he was last year and sometimes shows some offensive improvement but tonight I'm not sure he even hit the rim on what seemed to me to be some forced shots. Alec has clearly been working on his inside game but it seems there are long stretches where he never touches the ball. He doesn't seem to be popping out for threes like he could. Jabril had what, four steals yet turned the ball over like three times immediately after trying to take the ball down the court rather than looking for a guard to give the ball to.  Hamink can look amazing with some of his drives and finishes yet I worry that a tough defender could turn him over when he is playing point.  Maybe my unease caused by what seemed like sleepwalking through the second half tonight will be erased by a convincing win over Wright State on Saturday. I certainly hope so.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: frontrowfan on February 12, 2016, 06:58:11 AM
Quote from: talksalot on February 11, 2016, 09:51:24 PM
They played without Lavonne Holland from the start, and Cole Murray went down fairly early in the game, sitting down at their own Free Throw line with a dismayed look on his face... and did not return.  That's two NoKy starters out with injuries.  I hope their injuries are not serious...
Looked like Cole Murray took an elbow to the bridge of the nose on during a crowded rebound.   Looked a little dazed afterward.  He did warm up prior to the second half but didn't appear to be fully conscious IMO
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: HC on February 12, 2016, 07:46:22 AM
I thought he hit his head when he fell during that scrun for the rebound. I'm a few credits shy of being a doctor but that looked like concussion face as he walked off.

Valpo played like a dumpster fire in the second half. It was almost comical how bad the basketball was the last 10 minutes of the half.  I'm not concerned though. I imagine it is hard to stay 100% focused when you are smashing teams every time out.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: FWalum on February 12, 2016, 08:54:03 AM
Team looked absolutely BORED in the second half.  I am very worried about the competition this team is facing.  I don't see any of this getting us ready for a grind it out game in the HL tourney or in the NCAAs.  I hope the intensity in practice is a few steps above what we saw last night.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on February 12, 2016, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: nkvu on February 11, 2016, 11:42:23 PM
You know I really don't have a handle on this team. They are winning so easily in conference yet I just don't know if it's because they are better than last year or if the conference is much worse. I really can't see that T Walker and Skara have improved that much over last year.  Vashile seems to be even better defensively than he was last year and sometimes shows some offensive improvement but tonight I'm not sure he even hit the rim on what seemed to me to be some forced shots. Alec has clearly been working on his inside game but it seems there are long stretches where he never touches the ball. He doesn't seem to be popping out for threes like he could. Jabril had what, four steals yet turned the ball over like three times immediately after trying to take the ball down the court rather than looking for a guard to give the ball to.  Hamink can look amazing with some of his drives and finishes yet I worry that a tough defender could turn him over when he is playing point.  Maybe my unease caused by what seemed like sleepwalking through the second half tonight will be erased by a convincing win over Wright State on Saturday. I certainly hope so.

Vashil - 6 [MORE] blocks and 6 RBs; Alec touched the ball for a game leading 9 RBs and added 9 points; Hamink dropped in 12 points behind Keith's 16 and dished out a game leading 5 assists (tied with Jubril).  NKU came in with 4 guys scoring in double figures:  last night, one guy off the bench got 9 and no one else even got 8.  That is what makes this team so hard to beat.  Opponents can't game plan us, because if you focus on one guy, a bunch of other guys (not just one) take up the slack and kill ya.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: justducky on February 12, 2016, 09:44:19 AM
The NKU defense was solid and their passing, cutting, and ball movement was impressive. Give this coach some time to recruit and develop and look out.



Quote from: FWalum on February 12, 2016, 08:54:03 AMTeam looked absolutely BORED in the second half.  I am very worried about the competition this team is facing.  I don't see any of this getting us ready for a grind it out game in the HL tourney or in the NCAAs.  I hope the intensity in practice is a few steps above what we saw last night.
I think we all share this worry. We know how well these guys can play both offensively and defensively but will they be able to perform in the upcoming clutch moments? On the other hand I sometimes suspect that Bryce is concealing a hat full of rabbits that can be pulled out as needed.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: VULB#62 on February 12, 2016, 09:48:29 AM
Disappointing 2312 in attendance  :(
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: nkvu on February 12, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 12, 2016, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: nkvu on February 11, 2016, 11:42:23 PM
You know I really don't have a handle on this team. They are winning so easily in conference yet I just don't know if it's because they are better than last year or if the conference is much worse. I really can't see that T Walker and Skara have improved that much over last year.  Vashile seems to be even better defensively than he was last year and sometimes shows some offensive improvement but tonight I'm not sure he even hit the rim on what seemed to me to be some forced shots. Alec has clearly been working on his inside game but it seems there are long stretches where he never touches the ball. He doesn't seem to be popping out for threes like he could. Jabril had what, four steals yet turned the ball over like three times immediately after trying to take the ball down the court rather than looking for a guard to give the ball to.  Hamink can look amazing with some of his drives and finishes yet I worry that a tough defender could turn him over when he is playing point.  Maybe my unease caused by what seemed like sleepwalking through the second half tonight will be erased by a convincing win over Wright State on Saturday. I certainly hope so.

Vashil - 6 [MORE] blocks and 6 RBs; Alec touched the ball for a game leading 9 RBs and added 9 points; Hamink dropped in 12 points behind Keith's 16 and dished out a game leading 5 assists (tied with Jubril).  NKU came in with 4 guys scoring in double figures:  last night, one guy off the bench got 9 and no one else even got 8.  That is what makes this team so hard to beat.  Opponents can't game plan us, because if you focus on one guy, a bunch of other guys (not just one) take up the slack and kill ya.

True. There does not seem to be any drop off through all 9 regulars giving Bryce the flexibility to go to the best contibutor on any given day. Carter's shot seems much better this year and D Walkers game seems to be coming around. The defence is totally consistent and needs to be as the offense can go through some serious lulls from time to time.
Title: Re: 2/11 - Northern Kentucky @ the ARC
Post by: frontrowfan on February 12, 2016, 11:52:37 AM
Quote from: nkvu on February 12, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on February 12, 2016, 09:03:51 AM
Quote from: nkvu on February 11, 2016, 11:42:23 PM
You know I really don't have a handle on this team. They are winning so easily in conference yet I just don't know if it's because they are better than last year or if the conference is much worse. I really can't see that T Walker and Skara have improved that much over last year.  Vashile seems to be even better defensively than he was last year and sometimes shows some offensive improvement but tonight I'm not sure he even hit the rim on what seemed to me to be some forced shots. Alec has clearly been working on his inside game but it seems there are long stretches where he never touches the ball. He doesn't seem to be popping out for threes like he could. Jabril had what, four steals yet turned the ball over like three times immediately after trying to take the ball down the court rather than looking for a guard to give the ball to.  Hamink can look amazing with some of his drives and finishes yet I worry that a tough defender could turn him over when he is playing point.  Maybe my unease caused by what seemed like sleepwalking through the second half tonight will be erased by a convincing win over Wright State on Saturday. I certainly hope so.

Vashil - 6 [MORE] blocks and 6 RBs; Alec touched the ball for a game leading 9 RBs and added 9 points; Hamink dropped in 12 points behind Keith's 16 and dished out a game leading 5 assists (tied with Jubril).  NKU came in with 4 guys scoring in double figures:  last night, one guy off the bench got 9 and no one else even got 8.  That is what makes this team so hard to beat.  Opponents can't game plan us, because if you focus on one guy, a bunch of other guys (not just one) take up the slack and kill ya.

True. There does not seem to be any drop off through all 9 regulars giving Bryce the flexibility to go to the best contibutor on any given day. Carter's shot seems much better this year and D Walkers game seems to be coming around. The defence is totally consistent and needs to be as the offense can go through some serious lulls from time to time.
the only real question is the true point guard play.  If Keith goes down either temporarily or for a prolonged gig (a whole game) then we really struggle with getting the ball to the open player consistently.  E Victor and Shane have filled in but right now Keith is in his prime.