Here's the recap on the Detroit game with UIC...
These Titans are on a roll
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/recap/NCAAB_20160219_DTROIT@ILLCHI (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/recap/NCAAB_20160219_DTROIT@ILLCHI)
and here's the box score
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/boxscore/NCAAB_20160219_DTROIT@ILLCHI (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/boxscore/NCAAB_20160219_DTROIT@ILLCHI)
and here's the recap from the game we played at Calihan...
http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/15148/career-day-from-peters-leads-crusaders-to-win-at-detroit/#.Vsfr6sv2Y5s (http://www.valpoathletics.com/mbasketball/news/2015-16/15148/career-day-from-peters-leads-crusaders-to-win-at-detroit/#.Vsfr6sv2Y5s)
Valpo by 11, 81-70
My son has a boy scout banquet, but I'm excited to hear how Vashil tops last year's senior day speech.
D. Walker get into the starting lineup because he's a senior? We are sending off Carter (hopefully not) Vashil, D.Walker, E. Victor.
I'm looking forward to seeing Vashil's speech...again.
Yep I bet the starters are Carter, D Walker, EVictor, Vashil, and Alec.
Anyone taking bets on what Vashil does for his speech this year?
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This game is very similar to last year's second meeting with Detroit. Valpo with the opportunity to clinch the HL outright with a game against Detroit. This year's game is a bit different as the game is in Valpo rather than Detroit, and Detroit is having a better season by record and offensive stats, but the RPI from last year to this year is very similar.
It's the #1 Conference Scoring Defense against the #3 Conference Scoring Offense and for the other end of the court it's the #6 Conference Scoring Offense against the #8 Conference Scoring Defense. We just finished the regular season sweep of Oakland who has better statistics offensively and defensively, but Detroit always gives us fits for one reason or another, including a bad loss at Calihan last year on Feb 25.
Note: Not to be a pessimist, we have not swept Detroit in the regular season since 2011-2012, but that year was the unforgettable loss in the HL Finals to Jr. and the gang... Thus, Bryce has not had an undefeated season against UDM. Homer's final team is the last team to not lose to Detroit in a season going 3-0 in 2010-2011.
The Vegas Line opened as Valpo by 15, but dropped a bit to Valpo by 14 this evening. Hopefully, we aren't too tired after the Oakland game on Friday and we can get the Senior Day jitters out early and get the W before heading up to the W.
Valpo 76
Detroit 61
This is the game where we see if the guys have learned their lessons from WSU and Oakland, put the clamps on for 40 minutes and FINISH. For a veteran team, this should not be an issue. So hopefully they've sorted it out and start the run to the end of the season we all know they are capable of.
Getter goin' Valparaizone!
GO VALPO :dance:
Crickets. Guess people only care about bad offense.
UDM's shooting has been impressive.
Happy to see Peters asserting himself and taking over down the stretch!
Less excited to see a 21 point lead fall to and 11 point lead in less that 3 minutes.
Glad we woke up and finished strong! Congrats on another HL regular season title and a guaranteed post season birth!
Congrats to the team! Gave me a little heartburn there when their lead was cut by ten, but they came back strong at the end to win comfortably. Now finish strong next week in Wisconsin and get everybody healthy for the conference tournament.
Quote from: govalpogo on February 21, 2016, 02:44:50 PM
UDM's shooting has been impressive.
Despite excellent defense, Detroit shot over 50% from 3 and overall. I'm guessing that's one of their best offensive performances of the year, yet we still won by 16. Pretty impressive. Also, Bass had a huge game, yet Alec was even better. We just weren't going to be denied today.
Seemed like we were playing zone, even in the middle of their hot three point shooting. Just mixing it up?
Great to get the win, for sure, and finger to see all of the seniors contributing.
Skara was still wearing the boot, but was standing, moving around, etc. fairly casually it seemed. Without crutches, as far as I saw - at least during senior speeches, etc.
I'd say Vashil announcing that him and Bridget are expecting their second child is a solid follow-up to last year's engagement.
Quote from: vusupporter on February 21, 2016, 04:29:42 PM
I'd say Vashil announcing that him and Bridget are expecting their second child is a solid follow-up to last year's engagement.
Did you see the look on Bryce's face when Vashil made that announcement? He was absolutely shocked.
Just for Posterity... here's the box score that includes Alec's 1,498th point...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/boxscore/NCAAB_20160221_DTROIT@VALPO (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/gametracker/boxscore/NCAAB_20160221_DTROIT@VALPO)
Congrats to Vashil on his next child. Vashil has come along ways from sitting the bench his freshman year. Hopefully he can make some money oversees. Big props to Carter who has been a great leader and point guard the last couple years. Hopefully we see him again next year (wishful thinking). Give it up to E.Vic who could have packed the bags and quite after any one of his surgeries. Way to fight! Really glad we have D. Walker for the last two years. I think it's fair to say we are bringing in better players than we used too.
And Congrats to the program and Bryce. 4 season championships out of 5. Valpo clinched the #1 see with a week to go. Plenty of time to prepare the ARC and get really to host. :'(
I actually said in my own head "how is Vashil going to top last year's proposal? Announce he and his wife are having another child?" I was as astounded by his announcement as Jubril.
We are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse?
Paul
Quote from: 78crusader on February 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
We are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse?
Paul
Monmouth's loss to Iona might help a little - but probably it's going to help Oregon State or the like (middle of the road big conference) and not a mid-major.
Quote from: agibson on February 21, 2016, 08:32:24 PMQuote from: 78crusader on February 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PMWe are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse? Paul
Monmouth's loss to Iona might help a little - but probably it's going to help Oregon State or the like (middle of the road big conference) and not a mid-major.
Monmouth should have lost again today. Beat in 12-15 St. Peters in ot.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 21, 2016, 06:52:58 PMAnd Congrats to the program and Bryce. 4 season championships out of 5. Valpo clinched the #1 see with a week to go. Plenty of time to prepare the ARC and get really to host.
I'm wondering if LeCrone and the big wigs at the HL will wise up and cancel the contract with the organization that is running the HL tournament in Detroit.
Quote from: 78crusader on February 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
We are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse?
Paul
No, not really.
Aside from some mediocre FT shooting, Paris Bass played a heck of a game today. He's the complete package for sure - good outside shot, great ball handling skills, quick off the dribble, and a great finisher around the rim. He also worked hard on the defensive end, which surprised me a little. Quite a talent.
Quote from: 78crusader on February 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
We are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse?
Paul
Right now - maybe. For Valpo to be in the at-large grouping, we have to lose another game. Once we lose one more there is no at-large hope.
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Quote from: covufan on February 22, 2016, 07:28:36 AM
Quote from: 78crusader on February 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
We are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse?
Paul
Right now - maybe. For Valpo to be in the at-large grouping, we have to lose another game. Once we lose one more there is no at-large hope.
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Certainly not "no hope" - Valpo's RPI projects to 39 if they win @UWM, @UWGB, then beat UWGB on a neutral court, and lose to Oakland on a neutral court. There has been many cases where teams under 40 RPI missed the field, but Valpo has a good case; simply removing the two games against UIC and Valpo's RPI in the above scenario drops to 29. I believe only 1 team has ever missed the field with an RPI under 30. Valpo won both games rather handily, but are still punished immensely for just showing up. If UIC wasn't so awful, Valpo's RPI would be too juicy to pass up, combined with their good rankings in non-rpi ratings, their 50% winning percentage vs the top 50 RPI, and the top 100 RPI.
But knowing the selection committee, they could give two shits about keeping things fair. It's all about giving the power conference schools their bids, and rewarding their 1 road game ooc schedules.
Or if we played anyone besides Chicago St. We have to play UIC. Chicago St. was by choice.
Quote from: covufan on February 22, 2016, 07:28:36 AM
Quote from: 78crusader on February 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
We are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse?
Paul
Right now - maybe. For Valpo to be in the at-large grouping, we have to lose another game. Once we lose one more there is no at-large hope.
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Hit the nail on the head!
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 22, 2016, 09:52:14 AM
Or if we played any besides Chicago St. We have to play UIC. Chicago St. was by choice.
I've debated this myself. I think that this game added little value this year. Hurt our RPI and probably didn't help the team grow but no real way to measure this.
However, I think it would be hypocritical for Valpo not to schedule Chicago St. We as fans want Valpo to play Northwestern, DePaul, Notre Dame, other local D1 teams, etc. If we turndown Chicago St. we are doing the same thing these bigger schools are doing to us. Although it hurts our RPI I think it is the right thing to do.
Quote from: oklahomamick on February 22, 2016, 09:52:14 AM
Or if we played anyone besides Chicago St. We have to play UIC. Chicago St. was by choice.
True, but we play UIC twice, and Chicago State was on the road. Nonetheless, the RPI difference in the above scenario was 8. We'd finish with a 31 RPI instead of 39.
There's also a bit of a false choice between a decent RPI team and a poor one. It's more of a choice between a non-D1 school, not playing at all, and tallying another win. I'm not a fan of playing Chicago St, but it was on short notice, and probably free to schedule.
Quote from: a3uge on February 22, 2016, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: covufan on February 22, 2016, 07:28:36 AM
Quote from: 78crusader on February 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
We are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse?
Paul
Right now - maybe. For Valpo to be in the at-large grouping, we have to lose another game. Once we lose one more there is no at-large hope.
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Certainly not "no hope" - Valpo's RPI projects to 39 if they win @UWM, @UWGB, then beat UWGB on a neutral court, and lose to Oakland on a neutral court. There has been many cases where teams under 40 RPI missed the field, but Valpo has a good case; simply removing the two games against UIC and Valpo's RPI in the above scenario drops to 29. I believe only 1 team has ever missed the field with an RPI under 30. Valpo won both games rather handily, but are still punished immensely for just showing up. If UIC wasn't so awful, Valpo's RPI would be too juicy to pass up, combined with their good rankings in non-rpi ratings, their 50% winning percentage vs the top 50 RPI, and the top 100 RPI.
But knowing the selection committee, they could give two shits about keeping things fair. It's all about giving the power conference schools their bids, and rewarding their 1 road game ooc schedules.
Agree. Don't set yourself up for severe disappointment. If Valpo doesn't win the HL tournament in Joe Louis Arena they will be done as far as the NCAA tournament is concerned.
Quote from: bbtds on February 22, 2016, 12:07:07 PM
Quote from: a3uge on February 22, 2016, 09:30:08 AM
Quote from: covufan on February 22, 2016, 07:28:36 AM
Quote from: 78crusader on February 21, 2016, 08:10:05 PM
We are now ranked #1 in the College Court Report Mid-Major rankings. Is it possible--possible--that our at-large hopes still have a pulse?
Paul
Right now - maybe. For Valpo to be in the at-large grouping, we have to lose another game. Once we lose one more there is no at-large hope.
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Certainly not "no hope" - Valpo's RPI projects to 39 if they win @UWM, @UWGB, then beat UWGB on a neutral court, and lose to Oakland on a neutral court. There has been many cases where teams under 40 RPI missed the field, but Valpo has a good case; simply removing the two games against UIC and Valpo's RPI in the above scenario drops to 29. I believe only 1 team has ever missed the field with an RPI under 30. Valpo won both games rather handily, but are still punished immensely for just showing up. If UIC wasn't so awful, Valpo's RPI would be too juicy to pass up, combined with their good rankings in non-rpi ratings, their 50% winning percentage vs the top 50 RPI, and the top 100 RPI.
But knowing the selection committee, they could give two shits about keeping things fair. It's all about giving the power conference schools their bids, and rewarding their 1 road game ooc schedules.
Agree. Don't set yourself up for severe disappointment. If Valpo doesn't win the HL tournament in Joe Louis Arena they will be done as far as the NCAA tournament is concerned.
There's a good chance, yes, but at this point, it's way too early to say that. It really depends on how the rest of the bubble teams and the auto-bids.
Historically, it would NOT be out of the question if Valpo got an at-large, especially this year with two good teams being ineligible and a rather week field. Unlikely? Yes. Impossible? Not at all.
Quote from: a3uge on February 22, 2016, 12:19:38 PMThere's a good chance, yes, but at this point, it's way too early to say that. It really depends on how the rest of the bubble teams and the auto-bids.
Historically, it would NOT be out of the question if Valpo got an at-large, especially this year with two good teams being ineligible and a rather week field. Unlikely? Yes. Impossible? Not at all.
Agree that we could still be in the thick of the conversation but expecting lightning to strike us is a useless pursuit.
Quote from: justducky on February 22, 2016, 12:29:26 PM
Quote from: a3uge on February 22, 2016, 12:19:38 PMThere's a good chance, yes, but at this point, it's way too early to say that. It really depends on how the rest of the bubble teams and the auto-bids.
Historically, it would NOT be out of the question if Valpo got an at-large, especially this year with two good teams being ineligible and a rather week field. Unlikely? Yes. Impossible? Not at all.
Agree that we could still be in the thick of the conversation but expecting lightning to strike us is a useless pursuit.
There's people on here that discuss Valpo going to the A10 or teams leaving the Big East to form a new conference with Valpo. Getting an at-large this year is, at least, somewhat possible.
Just thought I'd point out that today Mid Major Madness ranked us #1 also, ahead of Wichita St, St. Mary's, and Dayton, all of whom are in line to get an at-large bid.
Paul