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Title: Another 2013 offer
Post by: vu72 on August 10, 2011, 10:22:35 AM
http://hoopsillinois1.hoops247.com/ (http://hoopsillinois1.hoops247.com/)

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=605:2013-star-jubril-adekoya-is-ready-to-close-out-july-with-a-pair-of-championships&catid=35:news (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=605:2013-star-jubril-adekoya-is-ready-to-close-out-july-with-a-pair-of-championships&catid=35:news)
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: SanityLost17 on August 10, 2011, 06:23:22 PM
I am not allowed to post links, but it looks like Valpo also offered 2013 player Lance Whitaker a scholarship as well.  (I just started looking at this again, sorry if somebody already mentioned it) 
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: valpopal on August 10, 2011, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: SanityLost17 on August 10, 2011, 06:23:22 PM
I am not allowed to post links, but it looks like Valpo also offered 2013 player Lance Whitaker a scholarship as well.  (I just started looking at this again, sorry if somebody already mentioned it)  

Valpo did offer a scholarship to Whitaker last month:
http://hoopsillinois1.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=201:class-of-2013-bartlett-star-lance-whitaker-picks-up-a-scholarship-offer-from-valparaiso-university&catid=40:news&Itemid=64 (http://hoopsillinois1.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=201:class-of-2013-bartlett-star-lance-whitaker-picks-up-a-scholarship-offer-from-valparaiso-university&catid=40:news&Itemid=64)


However, I understand he tore his ACL about a week ago and will be undergoing surgery.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: valpopal on August 11, 2011, 01:00:48 PM
We also have an offer out to Jermaine Myers of Culver Academy (2012), though I don't know why we would use a 2012 scholarship for a point guard. Indiana Recruiting Guide description:

Jermaine Myers: 6'0'' Point Guard, Culver Academy
Offers From: Ball State, Drake, Indiana State, Ohio, Valparaiso
Interest From: UNLV
Good floor general who led Culver Academy to the state title game this year. Very heady point guard who can also score it. He will be a very good mid-major point guard from the day he steps on campus.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: vu72 on August 11, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
This recruiting stuff is facinating.  We have a full roster for next year and really no one on that roster who could be considered "just a bench warmer", particualrly if Vuc makes strides to begin getting regular minutes.  I can't remember team with all the scholarship players having as much talent, at least on apaper.

So what do we do?  We offer a 2012 kid a scholarship.  What if he accepts?
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: justducky on August 11, 2011, 01:56:19 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 11, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
This recruiting stuff is facinating.  We have a full roster for next year and really no one on that roster who could be considered "just a bench warmer", particualrly if Vuc makes strides to begin getting regular minutes.  I can't remember team with all the scholarship players having as much talent, at least on apaper.

So what do we do?  We offer a 2012 kid a scholarship.  What if he accepts?
Good question.
I would take any 2012 recruiting rumors with much less than a grain of salt until we know of some development that has actually created an opening. Until then I have no great desire to change the 2012-2013 roster. As it now stands we might very well walk into the 12-13 season as the Horizon League team to beat.

There it is, and since I have been the first to say it ; you can all now take turns calling me crazy.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: rlh on August 11, 2011, 02:28:03 PM
I've mentioned this before, but having interest in a player and actually offering him a scholarship is not exactly the same thing.  Sometimes these kids, or their parents say a school offered, when in actuality they only showed an interest.  I don't know which it is on some of these guys, but be aware that not all of them have actually been "offered"....
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: valpotx on August 11, 2011, 05:21:23 PM
I played with people in HS who said schools had an interest, when they only received an academic pamphlet from the school.  It was their parents way of hopefully drawing more interest from other schools.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: cmack on August 11, 2011, 09:02:34 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 11, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
We have a full roster for next year and really no one on that roster who could be considered "just a bench warmer", particualrly if Vuc makes strides to begin getting regular minutes.  I can't remember team with all the scholarship players having as much talent, at least on apaper.

I see 2 bench warmers, both in the vicinity of 7ft.  Height does not equal talent as much as we all like to believe here.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: zvillehaze on August 11, 2011, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 11, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
This recruiting stuff is facinating.  We have a full roster for next year and really no one on that roster who could be considered "just a bench warmer", particualrly if Vuc makes strides to begin getting regular minutes.  I can't remember team with all the scholarship players having as much talent, at least on apaper.

So what do we do?  We offer a 2012 kid a scholarship.  What if he accepts?

Unless Witt isn't on the '11-'12 roster, his scholarship will be available for a 2012 recruit.  Hard to make that call until we see how Bryce fixes the scholarship situation for this year.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: vu72 on August 12, 2011, 06:58:01 AM
Quote from: zvillehaze on August 11, 2011, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 11, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
This recruiting stuff is facinating.  We have a full roster for next year and really no one on that roster who could be considered "just a bench warmer", particualrly if Vuc makes strides to begin getting regular minutes.  I can't remember team with all the scholarship players having as much talent, at least on apaper.

So what do we do?  We offer a 2012 kid a scholarship.  What if he accepts?

Unless Witt isn't on the '11-'12 roster, his scholarship will be available for a 2012 recruit.  Hard to make that call until we see how Bryce fixes the scholarship situation for this year.

If I'm not mistaken, that scholarship is taken by Bobby Capobianco.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: historyman on August 12, 2011, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: zvillehaze on August 11, 2011, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 11, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
This recruiting stuff is facinating.  We have a full roster for next year and really no one on that roster who could be considered "just a bench warmer", particualrly if Vuc makes strides to begin getting regular minutes.  I can't remember team with all the scholarship players having as much talent, at least on apaper.

So what do we do?  We offer a 2012 kid a scholarship.  What if he accepts?

Unless Witt isn't on the '11-'12 roster, his scholarship will be available for a 2012 recruit.  Hard to make that call until we see how Bryce fixes the scholarship situation for this year.

Has anyone seen Cameron Witt on campus?

I don't remember seeing him with the other players when I was there.

Although Kevin Van Wijk did say that Witt will be helpful to him this next season.

By the way, I just remembered that Kevin said he was getting treatments for his back in Crown Point and he thought that he would be playing more like 30 minutes per game this year and that so far the back had not been a problem during open gym.

Sorry, I had been thinking too much about the Nigerian and the skills he displayed.

Johnson was playing with the guys then and was getting ready to leave for Holland.

I got some kind of sense that Kevin really could care less about Cory playing in Holland.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: zvillehaze on August 12, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 12, 2011, 06:58:01 AM
Quote from: zvillehaze on August 11, 2011, 09:28:35 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 11, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
This recruiting stuff is facinating.  We have a full roster for next year and really no one on that roster who could be considered "just a bench warmer", particualrly if Vuc makes strides to begin getting regular minutes.  I can't remember team with all the scholarship players having as much talent, at least on apaper.

So what do we do?  We offer a 2012 kid a scholarship.  What if he accepts?

Unless Witt isn't on the '11-'12 roster, his scholarship will be available for a 2012 recruit.  Hard to make that call until we see how Bryce fixes the scholarship situation for this year.

If I'm not mistaken, that scholarship is taken by Bobby Capobianco.

Won't both Witt and Capobianco be on scholarship this year?
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: justducky on August 12, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
I kind of hate to side with Zville on anything but since we all know where he is going with this let me point out that the date is august 12, school will resume shortly, and the answer to this mystery needs to be reveiled.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: hoopfan22 on August 12, 2011, 07:49:05 PM
Witt's not going to  be on the team this season.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: justducky on August 12, 2011, 08:58:45 PM
Quote from: hoopfan22 on August 12, 2011, 07:49:05 PM
Witt's not going to  be on the team this season.
Not on the team or not on scholarship? If neither then is he staying at Valpo to complete his education? Of course, I will not be able to believe any of these answers until I see an official announcement but thank you anyhow-I think.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: zvillehaze on August 12, 2011, 11:17:38 PM
Quote from: justducky on August 12, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
I kind of hate to side with Zville on anything but since we all know where he is going with this let me point out that the date is august 12, school will resume shortly, and the answer to this mystery needs to be reveiled.

Thanks for the love, Ducky.  8)  Sorry that agreeing with me causes you pain. 

I guess my real point is that discussing the scholarship situation for '12-'13 is premature until the roster/scholarship situation for '11-'12 is finalized.  Trust me ... I'm not trying to stir anything up or trigger speculation.  It's probably best to just sit back and wait for official announcements.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: milanmiracle on August 13, 2011, 02:13:48 PM
Quote from: cmack on August 11, 2011, 09:02:34 PM
Quote from: vu72 on August 11, 2011, 01:16:38 PM
We have a full roster for next year and really no one on that roster who could be considered "just a bench warmer", particualrly if Vuc makes strides to begin getting regular minutes.  I can't remember team with all the scholarship players having as much talent, at least on apaper.

I see 2 bench warmers, both in the vicinity of 7ft.  Height does not equal talent as much as we all like to believe here.

I can think of another, maybe they didn't play last year?
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: covufan on August 13, 2011, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: zvillehaze on August 12, 2011, 11:17:38 PM
Quote from: justducky on August 12, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
I kind of hate to side with Zville on anything but since we all know where he is going with this let me point out that the date is august 12, school will resume shortly, and the answer to this mystery needs to be reveiled.

Thanks for the love, Ducky.  8)  Sorry that agreeing with me causes you pain. 

I guess my real point is that discussing the scholarship situation for '12-'13 is premature until the roster/scholarship situation for '11-'12 is finalized.  Trust me ... I'm not trying to stir anything up or trigger speculation.  It's probably best to just sit back and wait for official announcements.


Didn't we get one of the best players in VU Basketball history at the last moment, when he showed up just prior to school starting?  I'm sure they had to rewicker the scholarships that year as well.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: valpopal on August 14, 2011, 09:01:56 PM
Here is another 2012 recruit who, according to Indiana Recruiting Guide, has an offer from Valpo:

"Elijah Ray: 6'6'' Power Forward, Bowman Academy
I really like this kid. He is a very strong body but is also a good athlete. Ray is probably one of the best rebounders left on the board, so any low or mid-major in need of rebounding help, don't let the 6'6'' frame scare you and get after him. He is a top level student as well, showcased by the interest he is receiving from schools like Harvard, UC-Irvine, and Illinois. His only offers are from Indiana State and Valparaiso."

http://indianarecruitguide.blogspot.com/2011/08/top-un-committed-seniors-to-be.html (http://indianarecruitguide.blogspot.com/2011/08/top-un-committed-seniors-to-be.html)
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: valpofan56 on August 14, 2011, 10:58:59 PM
Quote from: valpopal on August 14, 2011, 09:01:56 PM
Here is another 2012 recruit who, according to Indiana Recruiting Guide, has an offer from Valpo:

"Elijah Ray: 6'6'' Power Forward, Bowman Academy
I really like this kid. He is a very strong body but is also a good athlete. Ray is probably one of the best rebounders left on the board, so any low or mid-major in need of rebounding help, don't let the 6'6'' frame scare you and get after him. He is a top level student as well, showcased by the interest he is receiving from schools like Harvard, UC-Irvine, and Illinois. His only offers are from Indiana State and Valparaiso."

http://indianarecruitguide.blogspot.com/2011/08/top-un-committed-seniors-to-be.html (http://indianarecruitguide.blogspot.com/2011/08/top-un-committed-seniors-to-be.html)

Would he happen to be Rashida Ray's brother?
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: historyman on August 15, 2011, 06:25:17 AM
Quote from: valpofan56 on August 14, 2011, 10:58:59 PM

Would he happen to be Rashida Ray's brother?

According to the Valpo Athletics website Rashida is from Fort Wayne.

http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/roster/2010-11/3962/rashida-ray/ (http://www.valpoathletics.com/wbasketball/roster/2010-11/3962/rashida-ray/)


#3 - Rashida Ray

2010-11 Women's Basketball
POS.  G
HT.  5-3
YR.  Sr.
HOMETOWN  Fort Wayne, Ind.
HIGH SCHOOL (PREV. SCHOOL)  Harding
Rashida is the daughter of Jonathan and Rhonda Ray



http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/article_d8bf759e-3190-531e-ab7a-885325bc0c9d.html (http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/high-school/boys-basketball/article_d8bf759e-3190-531e-ab7a-885325bc0c9d.html)

GARY | When Elijah Ray was a lad, his father, William, was always talking to him about sports. Gently nudging his son, Mr. Ray talked about the glories of our American pastime.

You see, William Ray was a standout baseball player at Roosevelt back in the day.



I also noted that Valpo was "showing interest" in Harry Willis a point guard from Ben Davis

Harry Willis: 6'2'' Point Guard, Ben Davis H.S.
He holds an offer from Mississippi Valley State (Division I) and Indianapolis (Division II). Valparaiso has also shown interest. I like him at the low DI level, his athleticism allows him to create for himself off the dribble and he has the potential to be a very good defender at the next level.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: lowposter on August 15, 2011, 03:20:31 PM
Elijah Ray would be a good compliment to the program...local talent, obviously a good student, BIG BODY, and pretty good player.  Let's hope he stays in the Region.

lowposter
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: lowposter on August 15, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
Loyola seems to be picking up the recruiting in Indiana.  Osborne from Muncie is committed with Ballentine from Kokomo interested.  Does the new coach have Indiana roots?
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: milanmiracle on August 17, 2011, 03:38:00 PM
Quote from: lowposter on August 15, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
Loyola seems to be picking up the recruiting in Indiana.  Osborne from Muncie is committed with Ballentine from Kokomo interested.  Does the new coach have Indiana roots?

Not that I am aware of, but he did hire Jason Gardner who is from Indianapolis. Recruiting Indiana just makes him a smart coach.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: valpopal on August 17, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
Adonis Filer, formerly of Bishop Noll, who has said in the past that he was considering Valpo, has transferred from Brewster Academy to Notre Dame Prep, where he will be playing among one of the best starting five in the country--it now includes center 7-1 Steven Adams (committed to Pitt), Ricky Ledo, Xavier commit Myles Davis, and Sam Cassell Jr.--and Filer will probably be receiving a lot of attention from teams in the more prominent conferences.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103123/adonis-filer (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103123/adonis-filer)

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/12/notre-dame-prep-to-add-7-footer-steven-adams/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/12/notre-dame-prep-to-add-7-footer-steven-adams/)
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: Crusader03 on August 17, 2011, 08:56:33 PM
Quote from: valpopal on August 17, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
Adonis Filer, formerly of Bishop Noll, who has said in the past that he was considering Valpo, has transferred from Brewster Academy to Notre Dame Prep, where he will be playing among one of the best starting five in the country--it now includes center 7-1 Steven Adams (committed to Pitt), Ricky Ledo, Xavier commit Myles Davis, and Sam Cassell Jr.--and Filer will probably be receiving a lot of attention from teams in the more prominent conferences.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103123/adonis-filer (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103123/adonis-filer)

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/12/notre-dame-prep-to-add-7-footer-steven-adams/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/12/notre-dame-prep-to-add-7-footer-steven-adams/)


That ESPN link seems pretty outdated.  They paint him as a mid-major type player when in actuality he has really emerged as a high major talent.  He currently has offers from Baylor, Tennessee, Utah and Oregon State and is said to be on the radar for several other major programs.  These transfer definitely point to what you're talking about valpopal...a kid who is posturing to get lots of attention from big time programs.  Valpo doesn't have a chance at this kid.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: milanmiracle on August 18, 2011, 09:56:44 PM
Quote from: covufan on August 13, 2011, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: zvillehaze on August 12, 2011, 11:17:38 PM
Quote from: justducky on August 12, 2011, 07:06:05 PM
I kind of hate to side with Zville on anything but since we all know where he is going with this let me point out that the date is august 12, school will resume shortly, and the answer to this mystery needs to be reveiled.

Thanks for the love, Ducky.  8)  Sorry that agreeing with me causes you pain. 

I guess my real point is that discussing the scholarship situation for '12-'13 is premature until the roster/scholarship situation for '11-'12 is finalized.  Trust me ... I'm not trying to stir anything up or trigger speculation.  It's probably best to just sit back and wait for official announcements.


Didn't we get one of the best players in VU Basketball history at the last moment, when he showed up just prior to school starting?  I'm sure they had to rewicker the scholarships that year as well.
Quote from: Crusader03 on August 17, 2011, 08:56:33 PM
Quote from: valpopal on August 17, 2011, 06:41:01 PM
Adonis Filer, formerly of Bishop Noll, who has said in the past that he was considering Valpo, has transferred from Brewster Academy to Notre Dame Prep, where he will be playing among one of the best starting five in the country--it now includes center 7-1 Steven Adams (committed to Pitt), Ricky Ledo, Xavier commit Myles Davis, and Sam Cassell Jr.--and Filer will probably be receiving a lot of attention from teams in the more prominent conferences.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103123/adonis-filer (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103123/adonis-filer)

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/12/notre-dame-prep-to-add-7-footer-steven-adams/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/12/notre-dame-prep-to-add-7-footer-steven-adams/)


That ESPN link seems pretty outdated.  They paint him as a mid-major type player when in actuality he has really emerged as a high major talent.  He currently has offers from Baylor, Tennessee, Utah and Oregon State and is said to be on the radar for several other major programs.  These transfer definitely point to what you're talking about valpopal...a kid who is posturing to get lots of attention from big time programs.  Valpo doesn't have a chance at this kid.
Sad to say you're probably right. He's going to go to a big D1 school, aand likely have a good deal of success. Valpo would have had to much more involved then they were at a much earlier stage to ever have a chance.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: valpopal on October 27, 2011, 09:58:37 AM
Not 2013, but 2014: I understand Erick Locke, a shooting guard from Brooks HS in Chicago, has officially received an offer from Bryce.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: vu72 on October 27, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
hoosierscout.net has him ranked in the top 50 in America.  The list includes 7 kids from Indiana.  If true that has to be one of if not the best Indiana class ever.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: lowposter on October 31, 2011, 01:58:54 PM
Elijah Ray, the 6'6" banger from Bowman verbally committed to IUPUI, according to the NW Indiana Times.

He would have helped, but obviously there are no spots available.

lowposter.
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: vufan75 on October 31, 2011, 04:18:40 PM
Quote from: valpopal on October 27, 2011, 09:58:37 AM
Not 2013, but 2014: I understand Erick Locke, a shooting guard from Brooks HS in Chicago, has officially received an offer from Bryce.

More information from chicagohoops.com about Erick Locke and the scholarship offer Coach Drew recently extended to him. 

http://tinyurl.com/3vu63uo (http://tinyurl.com/3vu63uo)
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: vu72 on October 31, 2011, 04:41:14 PM
This kid is Erik Buggs with big time scoring ability!

Class Of 2014 Erick Locke Is About That Life! One Of Top Scorers In The Country! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75ljjNYMmFY#ws)
Title: Re: Another 2013 offer
Post by: valpotx on October 31, 2011, 08:45:43 PM
Funny how he talks about Valpo getting to the tournament one day like we have never been lol.  I know it has been since my last year of school since we were in the NCAA tourney, but it seems like the youth definitely have not heard of us like they used to.