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Title: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on July 28, 2016, 08:06:00 AM
Valpo is ranked #10/11 in the PFL coaches preseason poll.  Catrine and Nunes mentioned as leaders.  QB issues highlights the writeup.

http://www.pioneer-football.org/news/archives/2016/1165/defending-champions-deemed-dominant-as--san-diego-edges-dayton-in-pfl-preseason-coaches-poll/
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on July 28, 2016, 08:17:33 AM
Soph Griffin Norberg named to the preseason All-PFL team at FB:

http://www.pioneer-football.org/news/archives/2016/1166/fourteen-first-team-all-pfl-returnees-highlight-preseason-all-pfl-team/

This is the Valpo Athletics release:

http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2016-17/15609/norberg-earns-preseason-all-pfl-nod/#.V5oEmVdiAo8

Only 3 WR on the single team, so Catrine didn't make it.  Sporadic and inconsistent QB play ls a factor I am sure.  Though Nunes received HM at the end of last season, he did not make the cut here.  Both have  some motivation going now.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on July 28, 2016, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on July 28, 2016, 08:06:00 AMValpo is ranked #10/11 in the PFL coaches preseason poll.  Catrine and Nues mentioned as leaders.  QB issues highlights the writeup. http://www.pioneer-football.org/news/archives/2016/1165/defending-champions-deemed-dominant-as--san-diego-edges-dayton-in-pfl-preseason-coaches-poll/

One small error in the article. Frank is going into his junior year not soph.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VUOR63 on August 03, 2016, 02:29:28 PM
I'd love it if the 2016 team could win enough to make me feel like there is a remote chance of an upset of Montana to start 2017.  Bowl eligible, 6 wins would be fantastic.  Beat Trinity International, Davidson, Morehead St., Stetson, Butler and Jacksonville (I hope it's unusually cold that day for those Floridians).
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 04, 2016, 12:02:32 AM
Quote from: VUOR63 on August 03, 2016, 02:29:28 PM
I'd love it if the 2016 team could win enough to make me feel like there is a remote chance of an upset of Montana to start 2017. Bowl eligible, 6 wins would be fantastic.  Beat Trinity International, Davidson, Morehead St., Stetson, Butler and Jacksonville (I hope it's unusually cold that day for those Floridians).

Sorry, in the FCS, there is no such thing.  Only the top 32 FCS teams get an invite to the FCS playoffs.  The PFL gets one (1) automatic bid as the #32 ranked team (and a lot of good FCS scholarship teams who miss out on a bid complain about that).

But point well taken --- 6 wins would be no less than spectacular given everything that is piled up against us (see all the previous + /-  analysis on this board).
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: usc4valpo on August 04, 2016, 05:49:56 AM
4 wins would exceed expectations.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: vu72 on August 04, 2016, 07:53:38 AM
Quote from: VUOR63 on August 03, 2016, 02:29:28 PM
I'd love it if the 2016 team could win enough to make me feel like there is a remote chance of an upset of Montana to start 2017.  Bowl eligible, 6 wins would be fantastic.  Beat Trinity International, Davidson, Morehead St., Stetson, Butler and Jacksonville (I hope it's unusually cold that day for those Floridians).

Well, that may backfire as we have 18 Florida kids on our Roster!!  By then though, their blood will have thickened significantly!! 

I was amazed as I went through our team to find that we have players from 19 states with only Illinois having more players than Florida!!

Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: covufan on August 04, 2016, 01:32:28 PM
Quote from: VUOR63 on August 03, 2016, 02:29:28 PM
I'd love it if the 2016 team could win enough to make me feel like there is a remote chance of an upset of Montana to start 2017.  Bowl eligible, 6 wins would be fantastic.  Beat Trinity International, Davidson, Morehead St., Stetson, Butler and Jacksonville (I hope it's unusually cold that day for those Floridians).
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 04, 2016, 05:49:56 AM
4 wins would exceed expectations.
I tend to agree with the four wins would exceed expectations.  Massey has us winning two (Trinity, Davidson), with a shot at Stetson.  Anything could happen at home with Drake, Butler and Jacksonville. 

Last year in the PFL we won at Davidson by 7, and lost the rest by an average of more than 26.  We kept Morehead St within 7, but all of the other games were by more than 20.  We really need at least 2 PFL wins this year, and another 3-4 PFL games within 10 points.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on August 04, 2016, 08:11:20 PM
I was on campus today. Bunch of players around. Lots of excitement.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: usc4valpo on August 04, 2016, 08:58:41 PM
I would really like to see these guys have a decent season - I think Cecchini is a decent coach who needs talented and confident players.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 08, 2016, 08:01:54 AM
2016 pre-season camp is officially under way.  Good luck Crusaders.

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Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on August 08, 2016, 02:11:39 PM
Should have downloaded the roster into a spreadsheet to compare the roster after the first question is answered.

"Who didn't show up?"
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: GOVALPO! on August 08, 2016, 05:09:16 PM
 Vince Mcpherson #8  outside linebacker/snake  did not report to camp
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VUOR63 on August 09, 2016, 03:53:49 PM
I'm well aware of the FCS v. FBS differences.  I typed bowl eligible as a tongue in cheek comment to communicate my desire for an over-.500 season.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 13, 2016, 10:13:02 AM
Quote from: GOVALPO! on August 08, 2016, 05:09:16 PM
Vince Mcpherson #8  outside linebacker/snake  did not report to camp

Last year as a redshirt freshman, the defensive staff was pretty high on him.  He is listed as 6-1, 200 and I believe he started many games at the Snake (OLB)position and was always on the 2-deep chart..

Here's his 2015 Bio: Saw action in nine games for the Crusaders as a sophomore ... tallied 18 tackles, including 2.5 for loss ... recorded three QB hurries on the year, tied for second-most on the team ... opened season with three tackles, a QB hurry and a tackle for loss Sept. 3 at Eastern Kentucky ... registered career-best seven tackles, including four solo stops, Nov. 14 against Morehead State.

Anyone know why he was a no-show?
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: usc4valpo on August 13, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
62 - what is the current tuition and R&B at Valpo?
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 13, 2016, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 13, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
62 - what is the current tuition and R&B at Valpo?

I would hope that as these go up, a player's financial aid package would increase accordingly.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: covufan on August 16, 2016, 09:35:42 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 13, 2016, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 13, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
62 - what is the current tuition and R&B at Valpo?

I would hope that as these go up, a player's financial aid package would increase accordingly.
Remember, players don't get financial aid packages in football. All financial aid is based on academics or need, not on whether or not they played football.

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Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: vu72 on August 16, 2016, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 13, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
62 -


Quote from: usc4valpo on August 13, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
62 - what is the current tuition and R&B at Valpo?

2014-2015 numbers:

Tuition    $35,030
Gen. Fee    1,130
Room        6,400
Board        4,120
Total       $46,680

That was a couple of years ago. With books etc., the total now is around 50k.  Currently the Valpo.edu site says tuition is up to 36,160.  However, 94% receive some financial aid.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: covufan on August 16, 2016, 12:07:43 PM
Looked at the 2016 Football roster.  105 players, 40 true freshman and 15 redshirt freshman.  6 QB, with Stokes and Clarke having taken snaps last year, and 4 Frosh QB's. 

Only 8 Seniors. 

From the two-deep Jax game, we return most starters on offense, but not QB, RB and one T.  From defense we lose 5 starters, but return almost everyone else from two-deep. 

Senior JJ Nunes major is Philosophical Aspects & Theological Implications in Sport
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 16, 2016, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: covufan on August 16, 2016, 09:35:42 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 13, 2016, 09:26:30 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 13, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
62 - what is the current tuition and R&B at Valpo?

I would hope that as these go up, a player's financial aid package would increase accordingly.
Remember, players don't get financial aid packages in football. All financial aid is based on academics or need, not on whether or not they played football.

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Don't confuse athletic scholarship with financial aid package.  As with non-athlete students, VU is 100% need-based for football (unless a Fb player is so outstanding he merits an academic scholarship).  This is referred to by the financial aid office and the football staff as the student's financial aid package and can be a combination of need-based grants, federal loans, campus jobs, etc.  Each year, as fees etc. rise, the financial aid office should review each financial aid package to ensure that the package is keeping up with any changes in the cost of attendance.

I am aware that  some schools offer enticing freshman year financial aid packages to get the student to enroll.  Then in subsequent years reducing the aid packages while hoping the student will find a way to stay matriculated despite incurring added financial hardship.  That practice is really sleazy.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: vu72 on August 16, 2016, 01:01:18 PM
Anybody who thinks these kids aren't busting their butts, watch this!

https://youtu.be/6zE6F0svrgg
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on August 16, 2016, 03:30:29 PM
Quote from: covufan on August 16, 2016, 12:07:43 PMLooked at the 2016 Football roster.  105 players, 40 true freshman and 15 redshirt freshman.  6 QB, with Stokes and Clarke having taken snaps last year, and 4 Frosh QB's. Only 8 Seniors. From the two-deep Jax game, we return most starters on offense, but not QB, RB and one T.  From defense we lose 5 starters, but return almost everyone else from two-deep. Senior JJ Nunes major is Philosophical Aspects & Theological Implications in Sport

The QB from the Jax game wasn't the starter all year long. Ryan Clarke was the defacto starter and, at this point, is likely to start again this year particularly early. He was injured for Jacksonville. There's a couple of the freshman giving it a shot but I doubt they'll be ready to take over from day one. No WRs were lost who matter, Jarrett Morgan is back at RB and I think Grayson is also back out there. The OL is full of returnees many of whom played at least some last year. HB/TE are ably filled as well with returnees.

Frankly, the QB play will determine how the offense goes this year. Can't be misreads and missing wide open receivers.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 18, 2016, 07:20:26 PM

VU FB is doing a good job of putting videos on line by position to keep us fans up to speed on how things are progressing.

https://twitter.com/valpoufootball
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on August 21, 2016, 12:58:27 PM
Saw the scrimmage yesterday. OK I guess. Breakdowns on defense which need to get cleaned up. Biggest issue to me was the guys in jerseys on the sidelines. Didn't look like little nicks either. I'll leave that to the staff to discuss if they choose to.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on August 21, 2016, 05:30:49 PM
Brandon Vickrey ‏@BrandonVickrey 41m41 minutes ago

Kicker Jake Newman has transferred to Miami of Ohio. Cecchini said Jake Simpson has been phenomenal at kicker. #PFL
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Brandon Vickrey ‏@BrandonVickrey 58m58 minutes ago

QB Dalton Stokes (torn labrum) doubtful for the season opener. Didn't play in yesterday's scrimmage, but arm strength is getting better.
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Brandon Vickrey ‏@BrandonVickrey 1h1 hour ago

Ryan Shea (ankle) and Jean Rene (turf toe) also missed Saturday's Valpo football scrimmage. #PFL
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Brandon Vickrey ‏@BrandonVickrey 1h1 hour ago

WR Frank Catrine is out with a knee injury. He's doubtful for the season opener at Illinois State. #PFL
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Brandon Vickrey ‏@BrandonVickrey 1h1 hour ago

.@valpoufootball coach Dave Cecchini has named Ryan Clarke @Clarke_Kent10 the starting QB for the Sept. 3 season opener at Illinois St. #PFL
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: valpotx on August 21, 2016, 09:09:47 PM
Will Newman play much at Miami (OH)?  Maybe an attempt at playing FCS scholarship?
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on August 21, 2016, 11:50:36 PM
Quote from: valpotx on August 21, 2016, 09:09:47 PMWill Newman play much at Miami (OH)?  Maybe an attempt at playing FCS scholarship?

I get the impression this was a last minute thing at least from Valpo's point of view. He's still on the Valpo roster which I assume will be updated prior to the season beginning since there are a couple of changes which need to be made. I'm not even sure he's going to play football although he will probably need to sit out a season if he does.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: Brandon on August 22, 2016, 09:21:59 AM
Newman is a graduate transfer, so he won't have to sit out a year. He finished his undergrad in three years.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: IndyValpo on August 22, 2016, 10:05:14 AM
My daughter goes to Miami and there is a major battle with 5 or 6 freshman and sophomores. They have a combined 1 FG and several kick offs. Though Newman is not on the roster I would think he has a chance.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 22, 2016, 10:06:07 AM
Good for him.  Hope he gets some scholarship aid to make it worth his while.  He was a steal for us originally as a freshman as I recall.  The Red Hawks last year were 3-9 overall and only 2-6 in the Mac.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on August 22, 2016, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: Brandon on August 22, 2016, 09:21:59 AMNewman is a graduate transfer, so he won't have to sit out a year. He finished his undergrad in three years.

I thought I recalled hearing that. Thanks.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: IndyValpo on August 23, 2016, 09:33:51 AM
6 missing from initially published roster:

RB Bastin
RB Bobo
WR Hill
DL McGinnis
LB McPherson
K Newman
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: valpotx on August 23, 2016, 10:43:23 PM
I believe that Bastin is a big loss, based on how coach always speaks about him.  Where did he go?  Good for Newman in graduating from Valpo, and trying one last shot at FBS!
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 24, 2016, 08:00:18 AM
Quote from: valpotx on August 23, 2016, 10:43:23 PM
I believe that Bastin is a big loss, based on how coach always speaks about him.  Where did he go?  Good for Newman in graduating from Valpo, and trying one last shot at FBS!

Speculation: Grayson could just be finishing out his education at Valpo (?)
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VU2624 on August 24, 2016, 12:49:40 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 24, 2016, 08:00:18 AM
Quote from: valpotx on August 23, 2016, 10:43:23 PMI believe that Bastin is a big loss, based on how coach always speaks about him.  Where did he go?  Good for Newman in graduating from Valpo, and trying one last shot at FBS!
Speculation: Grayson could just be finishing out his education at Valpo (?)

Graysin is still at school. I think he will remain with the team in some capacity. He's in the team photo which was posted on twitter if you look carefully.

I think at least two of the others are still in school as well.

Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: vumsb on August 24, 2016, 07:11:04 PM
I talked to Grayson at the scrimmage on Saturday. He was at camp and playing well. He was excited to have his knee healthy and ready for senior season. Unfortunately during the second week of camp his concussion symptoms came back from the concussion he sustained at last year's Drake game that took him out for the rest of the season. Trainer took him to the neurologist late last week and Dr. told Grayson he should not play football anymore. He was very disappointed. He told me he had spent the summer rehabbing his knee and was 100% healthy. At that time he was still on the roster. Huge loss to the running game.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: VULB#62 on August 24, 2016, 10:03:43 PM
I can relate.  At one point in my career at VU, I broke my neck (cervical spine injury) and never played in another Valpo game.  But I stayed with the program till graduation, was a student assistant coach and scout to hold onto my scholarship (er.. grant in aid).  i cried a lot that first week, but eventually it all turned out OK.  If he stays with the program, and I'm pretty sure he will (cuz "that's what you do in a herd") Grayson will bounce back and be an asset to the players and coaches.
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: IndyValpo on August 29, 2016, 03:19:59 PM
Quote from: VU2624 on August 21, 2016, 05:30:49 PMKicker Jake Newman has transferred to Miami of Ohio

Miami just published their 2 deep for this weekend game. No mention of Newman, there or on the roster....
Title: Re: Moving into the 2016 Football Season
Post by: bbtds on September 10, 2016, 10:44:18 PM
Illinois State beats Northwestern. Do we at least get some RPI points are whatever they call it.