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Title: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: VULB#62 on October 28, 2018, 12:33:42 PM
Marist is 4-1 after beating Morehead. They've discovered a freshman QB who is putting up good numbers and have a WR who is getting NFL scouting attention.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on October 28, 2018, 07:54:14 PM
I assume Cam Kelly will get the Christian assignment. Kelly's had his moments in which he's played really well but this guy is a different animal all together.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: vu72 on October 29, 2018, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: JD24 on October 28, 2018, 07:54:14 PM
I assume Cam Kelly will get the Christian assignment. Kelly's had his moments in which he's played really well but this guy is a different animal all together.

Can't see man coverage against this guy.  Cover 2?
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on October 29, 2018, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: vu72 on October 29, 2018, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: JD24 on October 28, 2018, 07:54:14 PMI assume Cam Kelly will get the Christian assignment. Kelly's had his moments in which he's played really well but this guy is a different animal all together.
Can't see man coverage against this guy.  Cover 2?
My guess is that what playing pure zone vs. man will do is make it take longer to get down the field. I'd guess they'll give whoever the victim is for Valpo some over the top help....Cover 2 Man under. Could also go with a matchup zone but that's prone to major breakdowns even in the Pros since it's fairly advanced.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: VULB#62 on October 29, 2018, 03:37:13 PM
Marist stats of interest in their win at Morehead 48-21 on Saturday

PASSING:
Austin Day 11/21 144 yds 2 TDs and 1 INT

RECEIVING:
Anthony Olivencia 8 - 53 yds
Juston Christian 3 - 43 yds 1TD

RUSHING:
Mekhal Johnson - 17 for 171 yds 3 TDs
Darryn Jordan - 15 for 113 yds

It appears that if you try to take away their passing attack, which it looks like that was what Morehead tried to do based on Christian only getting 3 catches and 43 yards, then Marist runs at you with two decent backs.  Marist is definitely not a one trick pony.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on October 29, 2018, 04:47:49 PM
Marist blocked a punt for a TD and had an 81 yard run for a TD which cut down on passing attempts as they just ran the ball after a certain point and the starters were out in the 4th quarter. However, they did demonstrate that they can run the ball.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: VULB#62 on October 29, 2018, 09:03:17 PM
And we have demonstrated that we have a hard time stopping any run attack. And that is a annual issue.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on October 31, 2018, 12:26:39 PM
Looks like maybe a rainy 50 degree day in Poughkeepsie this weekend.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: VULB#62 on October 31, 2018, 12:36:08 PM
I've never been to a game at Marist when it wasn't  ;D

From The Valpo Marist Preview Release:

Marist allows 28.1 points per game, tied for second in the league in scoring defense. The star player for the Red Foxes is wide receiver Juston Christian, who ranks third in the league at 115 receiving yards per game. Quarterback Austin Day is averaging 245 passing yards per game and has thrown nine touchdown passes in his three appearances. The team's running backs thrived in last week's win over Morehead State as Mekhai Johnson ran for 170 yards and Darryn Jordan accumulated 101 yards on the ground. Marist head coach Jim Parady is in his 27th season. Marist was picked to finish seventh in the PFL Preseason poll, but has exceeded expectations as one of four PFL teams with only one league loss. The only defeat came by five points at Stetson in the first week of league play against a Hatter team that has also been a surprise – currently tied for second after being picked ninth.

Spotted on the 2-Deep:

QBs - Duncan and Markoff

RBs - Boxrucker and Earley

Punter - Just Ulbrich (Alex has been home the past two weeks due the stroke his dad suffered).

ILBs - Messler is ahead of Skarecky
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: usc4valpo on November 03, 2018, 08:56:20 AM
Game day baby!
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 09:07:14 AM
Looking forward to the 27-17 Valpo victory.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 11:10:47 AM
Valpo catching a break as Marist's QB who's been lighting it up is not starting apparently due to violating team rules suspension. Don't know if he's out for the game or not. QB from last year and early in the season is playing for Marist and he's nowhere near the player Austin Day is.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
Mystery of what I thought was an injury having Boxrucker out last week was actually a suspension for violating team rules.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 11:38:07 AM
....and Juston Christian makes his first appearance on video. Unfortunately he was standing in the endzone with the ball when spotted.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 11:50:46 AM
What a shot from Duncan.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 12:13:02 PM
Valpo defense again allows a last minute end of half/game TD.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 12:16:06 PM
...and why not just hand them another 7.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: Deets on November 03, 2018, 12:17:04 PM
Looks like our coaches are still going with the throw three incomplete passes with less than two minutes in the half plays to give the ball back to the other team that has worked so well.  Valpo has yet to stop any team from scoring when they get the ball with any time left right before the half, but our coaches insist on handing it back to them with just under or above 2 minutes, every single game!  Often, as has happened again, it leads to 2 scores.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: usc4valpo on November 03, 2018, 12:42:48 PM
Wow, Marist looks like they have a beautiful football facility!
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 12:49:52 PM
A WR with 3 or 4 catches gets into it with the opposition sideline on an incomplete pass and gets calles for an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on 3rd down followed by a punt with a 30 mph wind behind him shanking a punt.

The WR should sit for the rest of the game and the team needs a punter. ST play has been abysmal all season. A couple of kick returns doesn't offset that.

Fortunately Marist out inepts Valpo and Snouffer picks up a fumble and runs it in.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 01:10:48 PM
We get a pick deep in Valpo territory and Cam Kelly gets nailed for unsportsmanlike penalty. Coaches need to get to these guys because there's been too many of them this season.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 01:18:26 PM
As the two teams attempt to out inept each other, Valpo recovers a fumble when the QB dropped the snap
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 01:24:24 PM
Valpo goes for it on 4th down at their own 35 and runs the ball which they haven't been able to do all game. To keep up with the rest of the team, Lundberg picks up yet another unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for the Crusaders.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 01:31:16 PM
Marist and Valparaiso...setting back Football play one down at a time.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: Deets on November 03, 2018, 01:56:10 PM
Our offensive play calling sucks and really doesn't give our offense a chance.  Running up the middle never works.  Running to the right usually results in a positive gain.  But do  we always have to throw bombs instead of just getting a first down?
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
Listening to Todd and Brandon and I'm not sure what game they were watching but somehow Valpo has outplayed Marist in this game. At least according to them. In other words, if we take out all the bad plays Valpo made, we were right in this game. That is putting lipstick on a pig at its best. Both teams had ample opportunity with the ball being in opponents territory a good portion of the second half but neither team could do much with it. Valpo scores late when Marist was playing off.

Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 01:59:38 PM
Quote from: Deets on November 03, 2018, 01:56:10 PMOur offensive play calling sucks and really doesn't give our offense a chance.  Running up the middle never works.  Running to the right usually results in a positive gain.  But do  we always have to throw bombs instead of just getting a first down?
It's a point to be made however Boxrucker isn't running outside. It's not his game. Cartales is the best skill player on offense and he's out which really hurts. I don't know where Elias Early was today. He's got a bit of speed and I think the best freshman back is hurt as well. So, unless they aren't going to run the ball at all, they run between the tackles. Markoff is used to get the ball outside.

Then again, maybe Valpo needs some better OL play.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 02:07:35 PM
....and we're back to blaming the players.....by name. Let's make no mistake about who we're talking about. Maybe we should call out coach Moore for going into his 5th or 6th season of not being able to stop a team at the end of a half or end of a game.

Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: usc4valpo on November 03, 2018, 03:31:54 PM
I like Todd and he has been loyal in his profession. He has part of many, many long football season, and he has my respect. However, he does not get critical.

This season could not end soon enough.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 03, 2018, 04:36:15 PM
From the recap. In fact the opening of the recap:
QuoteThe Valparaiso University football team overcame a rocky end to the first half with a second-half comeback effort for the third consecutive week, but Marist pulled out a 35-24 victory on Saturday in Poughkeepsie, N.Y. Valpo incurred another close defeat, coming up just shy against a team that is tied for second in the Pioneer Football League standings and has only one league loss.

"close defeat"; "just shy"?????

Marist was up 28-10 at the half and was up by 18 with 6 minutes to go and Valpo didn't get within 11 in the second half. In what world is this close or just shy unless your pandering to your audience.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: mila on November 03, 2018, 05:05:01 PM
Pandering is the exact word I was considering. Even on the post game show, it sounded as if we had just lost by a hair. However, this has gone on all season.  If you go back and read the pre games and then the recaps the school is really playing it soft with the coaching staff. Even their constant reminders of the previous regimes lack of success(only three wins in the previous 3 years ALL AGAINST THE SAME TEAM) seems to be aimed at propping up this staff at all costs. AND AS AN ADDENDUM all teams are beat up and missing key components at this time of the season. You recruit for these type of situations.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: usc4valpo on November 04, 2018, 10:25:23 AM
Valpo dropped to #250 in the Sagarin, but the good news is that they are 4 point favorites over Jacksonville next week!!! Go Saders and stay out of the bottom 5!!!!
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: JD24 on November 04, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on November 04, 2018, 10:25:23 AMValpo dropped to #250 in the Sagarin, but the good news is that they are 4 point favorites over Jacksonville next week!!! Go Saders and stay out of the bottom 5!!!!
Likely won't have to worry about any pass defense next week. Play 11 LBers.
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: VULB#62 on November 05, 2018, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: JD24 on November 04, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
Likely won't have to worry about any pass defense next week. Play 11 LBers.

:rotfl:

Do we have 11???
Title: Re: GAME #9 Valpo @ Marist 11/3 12:00
Post by: vu72 on November 05, 2018, 12:49:17 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on November 05, 2018, 11:31:47 AM
Quote from: JD24 on November 04, 2018, 04:36:19 PM
Likely won't have to worry about any pass defense next week. Play 11 LBers.

:rotfl:

Do we have 11???

Yep. I counted 17!