I'm 2/3 on starting on game threads,my loss was the WVU game(they desperately need a big 12 win) so here goes. My guess is Jacobson out coaches Lottich while also yelling at the refs after every call, but UNI isn't as good as they have been in years past so who knows. I'll give us a 54% chance to win, Massey says we have a 68% chance to win, but I'm not buying it especially without Fazekas. Hopefully Evelyn shows up to the ARC Saturday!!!
It appears Evelyn is feeling better. So we should see him there at 100% along with a couple thousand #GRITTY signs.
Crowd size could be influenced by the current forecast that calls for heavy snow throughout Saturday morning and possibly into early afternoon.
Quote from: valpopal on January 18, 2019, 01:15:17 AM
Crowd size could be influenced by the current forecast that calls for heavy snow throughout Saturday morning and possibly into early afternoon.
It's a sad day when a few inches is considered "heavy."
I paid for my season tickets. I'll be there. We should all be there. We have to rally and be a part of the solution. It's our place to give the team a home court advantage. Plain and simple. Let's do it. Bout to get gritty out there!!!
They're calling for anywhere from 10-12 inches but hopefully it hasn't really started to picked up by the game
Only game I saw them play was against Drake. They will once again make it very hard for us to score and that is our current issue. Lottich has the guys playing hard but is it enough to grind out wins more often than not? That remains the question.
Speaking of that Drake/UNI game, and a little off topic, but Drake has a freshman guard from Merrillville that is averaging 11 points a game, 2.9 / 2.2 assist to turnover ratio, 42% from 3..... DJ Wilkins.... Did we not recruit this kid? If not, why? I like Lavender, but man that is good production from a freshman and would have 3 more years with him.
This is a down year for UNI basketball. Valpo will win decisively.
Quote from: SanityLost17 on January 18, 2019, 07:20:43 AM
DJ Wilkins.... Did we not recruit this kid? If not, why?
I think he may have been on the radar, but grades may have been an issue.
Getting excited to watch the Valpo/UNI game Saturday. :thewave:
So here we go:
1. Score?
2. Does UNI surpass our stingy defence and score under/over our conference points allowed of 60.8?
3. Attendance? Snow is a coming will that stop people from showing up (I hope not) will we surpass our average conference home crowd of 3177?
4. Students will you attend? % of Student section full with band?*
5. How many Gritty, grit, get gritty, get some grit, gritty Valpo signs do we see in the stands?**
*How many students can the student section hold any how?
** Al I'm counting on you to help us count! :thumbsup:
I would love to see the student section so full that they have to move the band to the rafters!!! :thewave:
Perfect timing to attract students.
Driving home for the weekend is dicey due to weather -so campus dorms should stay full.
3pm start competes with neither homework nor parties
Anyone who walks to class can walk the same distance to the ARC.
It's the students' day to come through I am actually confident it will happen!
Quote from: crusadermoe on January 18, 2019, 12:38:29 PMPerfect timing to attract students. Driving home for the weekend is dicey due to weather -so campus dorms should stay full. 3pm start competes with neither homework nor parties Anyone who walks to class can walk the same distance to the ARC. It's the students' day to come through I am actually confident it will happen!
Makes perfect sense to me!
However, I've been called senseless before.
But let's be positive and as always ... Stay Gritty my Friends.
I'm afraid the team will be very streaky this year and we are going to be on a downward streak. Grittiness only goes so far. It was good for a turn around but is not sustainable all conference season. Poor shooting and lack of confidence will do us in. UNI will be ahead by 12 going into the last 3 minutes but Valpo will rally to get it back to within 5.
UNI 64
Valpo 59
1. 62-55
2. Yes
3. 2500 if the snow is bad, 3600 if it's much to do about nothing.
4. 55% including band
5. Hopefully just 1...sorry just not my thing.
First thousand fans in attendance will receive a replica victory bell. How we respond to this game will be telling for the rest of the season. Can we put the Loyola beatdown behind us and move on or will that beatdown cost us another game?
Snow in Valpo is 3-7 inches beginning tonight until 5ish tomorrow afternoon, then luckily another 3-6 inches later sat night and into Sunday with lake effect. Hopefully it's on the lighter side and theres a good crowd. Although, the casual fan may have just tuned in for the Loyola game to see how we fared or/and be turned off by the snow. Tough guesstimate but I'll go with 2700
Like to see more of this:
https://twitter.com/ValpoPIKE/status/1086309329941286913
I like how that has a "Questions?" contact person.
What kind of questions would one have? Just show up at the game. You get in free!
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/1086362999198240768
Quote from: M on January 18, 2019, 01:43:55 PM
1. 62-55
2. Yes
3. 2500 if the snow is bad, 3600 if it's much to do about nothing.
4. 55% including band
5. Hopefully just 1...sorry just not my thing.
Less than 2,000 if snow is bad.
FWIW: First Vegas line has Valpo favored by 4 points.
Did the Pikes read our message board in terms of greeks using the games to their advantage?........or did great minds just think alike?
Valpo 62
UNI 54
3,200
Haven't climbed out of my warm bed yet but I'm hearing the roads aren't very good this morning. Probably going to keep the community at home.
Quote from: M on January 19, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Haven't climbed out of my warm bed yet but I'm hearing the roads aren't very good this morning. Probably going to keep the community at home.
Less than three inches at my house. It would be sad if that would discourage people for venturing out.
Quote from: M on January 19, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Haven't climbed out of my warm bed yet but I'm hearing the roads aren't very good this morning. Probably going to keep the community at home.
I've been out and about for the past hour. Pretty nasty. Maybe 2-4" accumulation of wet, heavy snow, and still snowing. Some drifting on county roads. Snow is supposed to stop about midday. Streets and lots should be plowed long before game time. Just looks like winter in NWI, but I agree it will probably keep some people at home, maybe even some older regulars.
Quote from: M on January 19, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Haven't climbed out of my warm bed yet but I'm hearing the roads aren't very good this morning. Probably going to keep the community at home.
Makes the trip from Schaumburg less appealing today...still might try it yet. Though my trip may be easier than St Joes MI (fellow alum) who might be getting lake effect.
Personally I don't get the hatred for casual fans that don't want to deal with the snow / horrible parking situation at the ARC. I strongly disagree with bashing ppl for not going to a game where the weather blows. Compounded by the fact that parking in ideal weather barely exists, combine that with lack luster snow plowing and you've got "the perfect storm" for days like this.
That's great! I was hoping people were just being dramatic about road conditions.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 19, 2019, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: M on January 19, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Haven't climbed out of my warm bed yet but I'm hearing the roads aren't very good this morning. Probably going to keep the community at home.
Makes the trip from Schaumburg less appealing today...still might try it yet. Though my trip may be easier than St Joes MI (fellow alum) who might be getting lake effect.
Personally I don't get the hatred for casual fans that don't want to deal with the snow / horrible parking situation at the ARC. I strongly disagree with bashing ppl for not going to a game where the weather blows. Compounded by the fact that parking in ideal weather barely exists, combine that with lack luster snow plowing and you've got "the perfect storm" for days like this.
Far be it for me to tell someone else what to do, but if you were one of my children 80 miles away, at this point I migjt suggest that you sit this one out in the comfort of your home/apt. That said, there's still a lot of time to decide. Things could clear up.
The ARC is ready for this Afternoon.
https://twitter.com/jordanbernfield/status/1086642916364304384
Look close in the pictures and you can see Ryan still wearing the boot.
Quote from: wh on January 19, 2019, 08:23:39 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 19, 2019, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: M on January 19, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Haven't climbed out of my warm bed yet but I'm hearing the roads aren't very good this morning. Probably going to keep the community at home.
Makes the trip from Schaumburg less appealing today...still might try it yet. Though my trip may be easier than St Joes MI (fellow alum) who might be getting lake effect.
Personally I don't get the hatred for casual fans that don't want to deal with the snow / horrible parking situation at the ARC. I strongly disagree with bashing ppl for not going to a game where the weather blows. Compounded by the fact that parking in ideal weather barely exists, combine that with lack luster snow plowing and you've got "the perfect storm" for days like this.
Far be it for me to tell someone else what to do, but if you were one of my children 80 miles away, at this point I migjt suggest that you sit this one out in the comfort of your home/apt. That said, there's still a lot of time to decide. Things could clear up.
Traveling for a living combined with few weekend home games means "it's on". Put her in 4-wheel drive and listen to a good audiobook!
A thought on the giveaways:
These are really great ideas. But I wish they executed them a little better. The Jersey giveaway for example. Half of them will go to the older crowd who arrives early, who will never wear them.(not saying they shouldn't take one, I realize they get passed to kids and grandkids.) Most of the rest go to students who grab them and don't stay for the game. At the last jersey giveaway I saw so many students leaving as I arrived I thought the building was on fire.
These are meant to entice people who otherwise wouldn't come to a game (and whose money you don't already have) to show up. If Valpo Guy A brings his son to the game to get a jersey, takes forever to find parking, sees students running out with jerseys, and his kid doesn't get one, that's not a very positive experience.
My suggestion would be for next year to do 1,000 jerseys in children's sizes and make it a 16 and under giveaway. Maybe do a separate giveaway at a different game for Vu students only to bring out a crowd.
1: Score 68-62 Valpo. UNI has kept it close in conference play (except for the Bradley Game)
2: UNI over 60.8 pts but not by much.
3: Attendance 2,373 even with a victory bell give away.
4: Student section over 50% full because the Pikes will attend.
5: 16 g-signs (gritty). Unless the 5 students wearing Valpo on their chest from the last home game are brothers of Pike.
That's B.S. that students take the jerseys and leave. Scum.
There must be a way to make them stay by giving out with student ID through 10 min into game and then keep them after the game by showing student IDs. after 5 minutes left in the game. Anything less really ticks me off! They already get free admission with no skin in the game.
Today's giveaway is first 500 families I'm told. You get a voucher on the way in and pick up the giveaway after the game on the way out.
How bad the snow and roads are seems to vary this storm around. Roads where I'm at are pretty bad but I'll make it.
A win here would have the extra benefit of sticking it to the UNItard who's the most delusional and self-unaware poster in the league.
Perhaps they get passed out during timeouts and half time. The crusderetts can walk up and down the aisle with a focusing on little ones during one time out, students during another etc...
Quote from: M on January 19, 2019, 11:30:47 AMToday's giveaway is first 500 families I'm told. You get a voucher on the way in and pick up the giveaway after the game on the way out.
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Says fans, I've heard that's an error (but maybe that person was wrong) and should say families. Just a heads up.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 19, 2019, 10:27:22 AM
Quote from: wh on January 19, 2019, 08:23:39 AM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 19, 2019, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: M on January 19, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Haven't climbed out of my warm bed yet but I'm hearing the roads aren't very good this morning. Probably going to keep the community at home.
Makes the trip from Schaumburg less appealing today...still might try it yet. Though my trip may be easier than St Joes MI (fellow alum) who might be getting lake effect.
Personally I don't get the hatred for casual fans that don't want to deal with the snow / horrible parking situation at the ARC. I strongly disagree with bashing ppl for not going to a game where the weather blows. Compounded by the fact that parking in ideal weather barely exists, combine that with lack luster snow plowing and you've got "the perfect storm" for days like this.
Far be it for me to tell someone else what to do, but if you were one of my children 80 miles away, at this point I migjt suggest that you sit this one out in the comfort of your home/apt. That said, there's still a lot of time to decide. Things could clear up.
Traveling for a living combined with few weekend home games means "it's on". Put her in 4-wheel drive and listen to a good audiobook!
Exactly. It's a sign of the changes. With less periods of severe weather in the midwest when some periods of snow happen people are less likely to want to deal with it because they feel it will go away.
I will say that putting your life on hold due to some somewhat tricky snowfall just makes you a dull person. Get out and enjoy what life has to offer. It leads to good stories for when you are sitting around the house, bar, campfire, etc.
Quote from: bbtds on January 19, 2019, 12:43:17 PMI will say that putting your life on hold due to some somewhat tricky snowfall just makes you a dull person. Get out and enjoy what life has to offer. It leads to good stories for when you are sitting around the house, bar, campfire, etc.
Yeah, I agree.
One time - At Band Camp - It snowed so hard we .....
Quote from: humbleopinion on January 19, 2019, 08:00:38 AM
Quote from: M on January 19, 2019, 07:48:39 AM
Haven't climbed out of my warm bed yet but I'm hearing the roads aren't very good this morning. Probably going to keep the community at home.
Less than three inches at my house. It would be sad if that would discourage people for venturing out.
Coming from south suburbs of Chicago to Valpo currently. Expressways and tollways have been nothing but wet. Typically ride into town down 130 but instead taking the tollway to 49 to avoid any issues and so far road conditions have been great! Hopefully most people still venture out. Looking forward to the game
Quote from: bbtds on January 19, 2019, 12:43:17 PMI will say that putting your life on hold due to some somewhat tricky snowfall just makes you a dull person. Get out and enjoy what life has to offer. It leads to good stories for when you are sitting around the house, bar, campfire, etc.
That is a bold statement considering your accident was I believe weather related?
Southern Lake County not as bad as I feared. All systems- Go!
Nobody bothers to question my sanity anymore as I mislaid it many years ago. :popcorn: As long as they don't run out of popcorn I should be just fine.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on January 19, 2019, 10:39:29 AM
A thought on the giveaways:
These are really great ideas. But I wish they executed them a little better. The Jersey giveaway for example. Half of them will go to the older crowd who arrives early, who will never wear them.(not saying they shouldn't take one, I realize they get passed to kids and grandkids.) Most of the rest go to students who grab them and don't stay for the game. At the last jersey giveaway I saw so many students leaving as I arrived I thought the building was on fire.
These are meant to entice people who otherwise wouldn't come to a game (and whose money you don't already have) to show up. If Valpo Guy A brings his son to the game to get a jersey, takes forever to find parking, sees students running out with jerseys, and his kid doesn't get one, that's not a very positive experience.
My suggestion would be for next year to do 1,000 jerseys in children's sizes and make it a 16 and under giveaway. Maybe do a separate giveaway at a different game for Vu students only to bring out a crowd.
This is a good post!
Quote from: justducky on January 19, 2019, 01:27:24 PM
Quote from: bbtds on January 19, 2019, 12:43:17 PMI will say that putting your life on hold due to some somewhat tricky snowfall just makes you a dull person. Get out and enjoy what life has to offer. It leads to good stories for when you are sitting around the house, bar, campfire, etc.
That is a bold statement considering your accident was I believe weather related?
Southern Lake County not as bad as I feared. All systems- Go!
Nobody bothers to question my sanity anymore as I mislaid it many years ago. :popcorn: As long as they don't run out of popcorn I should be just fine.
In reality accidents happen and I'm still alive. I probably have more aches and pains then before the accident and I do slow down more when driving than I did when I was younger. I'm just not going to let it effect how I attend events I truly enjoy. The amount of time we spend on the road is the thing that most determines our risk of being injured. I will slow that down in about 4 to 5 years.
For us alumni that are 1,000 miles away, What's the update on the crowd size?
And WTF on why I can't see on ESPN3? I'm not in the Chicago TV market.
no idea on crowd size but saw a tweet that the student section has a great crowd. I know at least one fraternity is having their recruitment event at the game today
Student section looks great from tv. Pike is representing :thumbsup:
Quote from: crusadermoe on January 19, 2019, 03:10:08 PM
And WTF on why I can't see on ESPN3? I'm not in the Chicago TV market.
Game is on espn3!
This officiating is....bad.
Another good win for the team. Smits was a beast, Evelyn played a lot better and Kiser showed his usual good D and hustle. They had the grit to do what was needed to put the game away.
1. Good game by the bigs and especially smits. Will he make 1st team? It's early but The conversation will develope.
2. Golder is efficient. Is his highlight reel better than hammick?
3. Freeman didint score much and green had over 20. But this kid can play defense. We depend on him and he has been consistent. Great recruit. This might be the best valpo freshman?
Quote from: jloose128 on January 19, 2019, 04:47:13 PM
This officiating is....bad.
The moving screens on UNI all night weren't called and that was half their offensive possessions. I liked how Coach put Freeman on Green at the end of the game and had more success defending him.
Great win today! That was probably the most complete game Valpo has played all year and there is still a ton of room for improvement. It was great to see Bakari shake off that scoring funk he was in. Maybe this game gets him going for the rest of the season.
Overall, a very solid showing. Are guys did what they needed to do. Great game from Derrik and so glad to see Bakari healthy again. I think that once Ryan is back (still in the boot :() we will be hard to beat. Every time the ball went to a wide open Kiser in the corner, the shot doesn't go up--correctly! With Ryan getting those looks the ball will go up and in, about 50% og of the time.
AJ Green belongs in the BIG. He is a complete stud. We put our best defender on him and all he did was score 25.
When you look at the stats, foul shots were about even but we dominated the boards. They are a very well coached team. GREAT WIN!!
This was a fun game to watch. Could never quite relax but being the lead the whole time meant overall it was a thrill.
About 3100 in the ARC today. Rockin. Hope next Saturday night we get a big crowd. Drake.
For you over-under fans, Sackey 1 assist, 1 turnover.
Good fan support for this game. ESPN has the attendance at 3,160 nice showing for a snow day :thumbsup:
And the student section seemed full!!!!! It would be great for a fraternity/sorority to be in those bleachers every game! Correct me if I am wrong but were the students standing in the second half of the game?
Great to see :clap:
If you liked it once, valpo-area Comcast get the replay at 7pm tonight, channel 200. If their guide is accurate.
https://twitter.com/FSIndiana/status/1086743721075331072
Quote from: VALPO LI on January 19, 2019, 06:17:01 PMGood fan support for this game. ESPN has the attendance at 3,160 nice showing for a snow day :thumbsup: And the student section seemed full!!!!! It would be great for a fraternity/sorority to be in those bleachers every game! Correct me if I am wrong but were the students standing in the second half of the game? Great to see :clap:
The students were great engaged, and did stand for almost the entire game. Only thing is they could work on some cheers but this was probably the best showing of students in the last year and a half. Great job students!
Had to put this in here. My Gritty sign got some company.
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1086722753716207622
Fun game. I can't believe that this hasn't been pointed out yet, but we are now 3-24 against UNI. I remember that when we first entered the HL, we had some bad records to turnaround, and we did. I look forward to doing the same in the MVC :thumbsup:
Home run to Javon!!! :cheers:
https://twitter.com/FSIndiana/status/1086759679470911489
Great game, very good atmosphere, nice giveaway!
5-1! Never would've guessed this was coming during the non conference.
Great game! Offense and defense were solid throughout so was the rebounding. Smits Golder and Evelyn paced the offense but I saw solid contributions throughout the roster. Kiser played very well. Lavender's 3 and Sorolla's block were huge. It's great to see Sackey's shot come online. Freeman was quiet offensively but he made winning plays as he always does. Evelyn had one of his best games and looks to be rounding into form. That's really good news for us. It seemed like every time we needed a big shot we got one. I love this team and the way they fight. Now let's try to get another MVC road win against Indiana State at the Hulman Center! Go Valpo!
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/1086806304277127171
If you want to take shots a Valpo for the facilities, fine. We all grumble about them ourselves. But to take a shot at us as a member of the Conference when we just beat you and we're now tied for first in the Conference is idiotic.
UNI is a fine and successful program but some in their fan-base have some kind of ego...
https://twitter.com/Brett_Crawford/status/1086718522875699200
https://twitter.com/Brett_Crawford/status/1086713484157599744
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/1086803491878825985
The arrogance and entitlement from some of their fans made this win a little sweeter. Three messages for UNI:
1. Scoreboard.
2. Standings.
3. Have a nice day and we'll see you in Cedar Falls real soon.
Wait a second. The guy who always bashes us on MVCFans (and now Loyola and Murray St) is BCPanther.
The initials of the UNI fan on twitter are "BC".
Looks like this delusional nutjob has continued his rampage on multiple social media platforms. Probably angry about his "Everyone has a chance to finish top 4 but Valpo" prediction.
I wasn't kidding when I suggested our fans on MVC board eviscerate him. I'd like to see him spew his venom in person, instead of always hiding behind his keyboard in overalls.
I won't impugn an entire fanbase because of one or a few idiots but certain members of that fanbase are as bad as any Wichita State fan I've ever seen on MVCFans.
And to be fair to him his take wasn't necessarily wrong at the outset. We had given no indication whatsoever in nonconference play that we would or could contend, but his take has aged more poorly and more quickly than almost any poor aging take I've ever seen.
Quote from: VU2014 on January 19, 2019, 08:06:32 PM
If you want to take shots a Valpo for the facilities, fine. We all grumble about them ourselves. But to take a shot at us as a member of the Conference when we just beat you and we're now tied for first in the Conference is idiotic.
UNI is a fine and successful program but some in their fan-base have some kind of ego...
https://twitter.com/Brett_Crawford/status/1086718522875699200
https://twitter.com/Brett_Crawford/status/1086713484157599744
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/1086803491878825985
I agree. When we criticize our facility, it's all in the interest of wanting to become the best program we can possibly be. When an outsider does it, it infuriates me, especially from someone from a public university that receives taxpayer money to fund all their crap.
Gyms don't win basketball games coaches players their respective skillsets and the program cultures they create do.
Correct but gyms get good players and coaches that perform and win games.
Quit reinvesting in the product and soon the product gets passed
They can have their fancy arenas, and I will take the wins and 'ships that we are accustomed to as fans. Just imagine if they were in the A-10, which is thought of as a superior conference, and they play in many of those crappier gyms.
I agree and I'd love to have both and hope we will soon, but given the choice give me the good players and the strong culture. That's harder to get and is far more meaningful.
If we're not pissing off our conference mates, we're not doing it right.
Oh they wouldn't be eyeing the A10. That UNI guy has posted that UNI could join the MWC with Gonzaga. :rotfl:
I say: from his lips to God's ears. Let 'em go and bring in Murray.
Quote from: NativeCheesehead on January 19, 2019, 09:12:42 PMIf we're not pissing off our conference mates, we're not doing it right.
Right but let's always do it with our play not our mouths. Let other fanbases run their mouths but let us silence them with our play. We'll take their abuse before the game... and the W when it's all said and done.
Quote from: may know on January 19, 2019, 09:18:39 PM
Oh they wouldn't be eyeing the A10. That UNI guy has posted that UNI could join the MWC with Gonzaga. :rotfl:
I say: from his lips to God's ears. Let 'em go and bring in Murray.
Nah keep em around. At their peak they're the kind of program we need to live the multibid MVC dream. One has to wonder if the success of Loyola last year and the fact that both we and the Ramblers are off to hot starts this year is having any effect on Belmont and their stance on the MVC. That could be our ticket to bringing Murray State in. Yes the OVC footprint is nice for Belmont but it's a terrible institutional fit. The SOCON would be better for them as a southern private institution but does the SOCON want a non-football school?
UNI has been down for several years now. They will be back to winning ways. Good coach, stud freshman and great facilities.
I have to note that since Lottich used the word "gritty" to describe the characteristic he wanted to see in his players (which has seemed to turn the team in a positive direction), the coach has also displayed more grittiness on the sidelines. All of last year and in the beginning of this year some (including myself) questioned or criticized the apparent passivity exhibited by Lottich on the sidelines, as well as his lack of confrontation with officials who seemed to make faulty calls. I must say that the fire and intensity he has shown recently on the sideline, as well as his more open willingness to challenge the officials as they run past him, have been refreshing to witness, and I have to believe have helped to motivate his players.
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 19, 2019, 09:36:22 PMUNI has been down for several years now. They will be back to winning ways. Good coach, stud freshman and great facilities.
I agree and I hope they do so ASAP. What's good for the MVC (and the more strong programs the better) is okay with me.
Quote from: valpopal on January 19, 2019, 09:38:32 PMI have to note that since Lottich used the word "gritty" to describe the characteristic he wanted to see in his players (which has seemed to turn the team in a positive direction), the coach has also displayed more grittiness on the sidelines. All of last year and in the beginning of this year some (including myself) questioned or criticized the apparent passivity exhibited by Lottich on the sidelines, as well as his lack of confrontation with officials who seemed to make faulty calls. I must say that the fire and intensity he has shown recently on the sideline, as well as his more open willingness to challenge the officials as they run past him, have been refreshing to witness, and I have to believe have helped to motivate his players.
He said himself "I need to get grittier" and he ad the team have delivered. Say what you will about mantras taglines and slogans but they work.
Wichita State has Play Angry
Loyola has Created by Culture or No Finish Line
Valpo has Gritty
And ever since we embraced Gritty this team has taken on new dimensions and a new persona. Just like Loyola and Wichita State before them. I think great things are in store for us if we stick to this new identity because it's the kind of identity you need to succeed in the MVC and in the tournament.
I am sure the UNI fans will find some great times in Waterloo tonight!
Nice video about Bakari. Will try to get a cleaner copy later but I wanted to share now because I thought it was a great interview.
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1086839329538932736
Btw the flickering scorer's table drove me nuts tonight.
Great win and response to the beatdown fro Loyola. believe we will be in the thick of things at the end of the season. Couldnt make it to the game today unfortunately, does anyone have an extra victory bell replica they wouldn't mind parting with??
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1086762721192873984
I think it's time for perceptions of John Kiser to start changing a bit. He was big for us today and does a lot of things that don't show up in boxscores. If he can bring his usual rebounding and defensive toughness while pouring in 5-7 points a game or every other game he's extremely useful. He just might be developing into a bit more than solely a heart and hustle guy.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on January 20, 2019, 12:40:25 AM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1086762721192873984
I think it's time for perceptions of John Kiser to start changing a bit. He was big for us today and does a lot of things that don't show up in boxscores. If he can bring his usual rebounding and defensive toughness while pouring in 5-7 points a game or every other game he's extremely useful. He just might be developing into a bit more than solely a heart and hustle guy.
Kiser played really well today. But part of that was because of who we were playing. When the other team is playing basically one forward and four guards, playing Kiser allows us to switch almost all perimeter screens. At 6'5 Kiser can guard on the perimeter, where a 6'8 McMillan can't. When he has to guard a legit 4 he will struggle. But you have to give the guy credit. He will give you everything he has every minute he is on the floor.
Quote from: wh on January 19, 2019, 08:40:29 PM
Quote from: VU2014 on January 19, 2019, 08:06:32 PM
If you want to take shots a Valpo for the facilities, fine. We all grumble about them ourselves. But to take a shot at us as a member of the Conference when we just beat you and we're now tied for first in the Conference is idiotic.
UNI is a fine and successful program but some in their fan-base have some kind of ego...
https://twitter.com/Brett_Crawford/status/1086718522875699200
https://twitter.com/Brett_Crawford/status/1086713484157599744
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/1086803491878825985
I agree. When we criticize our facility, it's all in the interest of wanting to become the best program we can possibly be. When an outsider does it, it infuriates me, especially from someone from a public university that receives taxpayer money to fund all their crap.
To paraphrase a line from Animal House (I believe from Otter).."they can't criticize our facilities, only we can criticize our facilities"
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on January 19, 2019, 09:52:37 PM
Quote from: valpopal on January 19, 2019, 09:38:32 PMI have to note that since Lottich used the word "gritty" to describe the characteristic he wanted to see in his players (which has seemed to turn the team in a positive direction), the coach has also displayed more grittiness on the sidelines. All of last year and in the beginning of this year some (including myself) questioned or criticized the apparent passivity exhibited by Lottich on the sidelines, as well as his lack of confrontation with officials who seemed to make faulty calls. I must say that the fire and intensity he has shown recently on the sideline, as well as his more open willingness to challenge the officials as they run past him, have been refreshing to witness, and I have to believe have helped to motivate his players.
He said himself "I need to get grittier" and he ad the team have delivered. Say what you will about mantras taglines and slogans but they work.
Wichita State has Play Angry
Loyola has Created by Culture or No Finish Line
Valpo has Gritty
And ever since we embraced Gritty this team has taken on new dimensions and a new persona. Just like Loyola and Wichita State before them. I think great things are in store for us if we stick to this new identity because it's the kind of identity you need to succeed in the MVC and in the tournament.
I believe many of us think that gritty was made up and presented to the team after winter break. During our darker days of OOC.
In one of coaches interviews he said going into the season that was the mantra so the "word" didn't change :censored:.
How coach lead by example is strictly what changed our trajectory.ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS....benched two team leaders, THAT's what happened. Gritty is just what southerners eat for breakfast 🤪🤪🤪
We have facility issues and there is no debate. Perhaps the UNI fan has to gripe because there's little to do in the Cedar Valley. Heck, this is a place where they think Olive Garden is great Italian food!
Quote from: usc4valpo on January 20, 2019, 09:16:44 AMWe have facility issues and there is no debate. Perhaps the UNI fan has to gripe because there's little to do in the Cedar Valley. Heck, this is a place where they think Olive Garden is great Italian food!
To be fair I do think that Olive Garden has improved significantly in quality over the past few years. These few fans who are representing their fellow fans so poorly are probably just taking shots at us because it's therapeutic for many to direct their anger to external things instead of internally where it should go. The main reason Valpo and Lottich are succeeding is that they pointed the thumb instead of the finger and then did something about it.
Absolutely "actions do speak louder than words" we have seen this on the court the later part of this season and it is great!!! But with these actions came some words and the one word that stuck was "Grit" and the team, fans, social media are buying into it. So I say roll with it. Look on this message board most (not all) fans are inspired by grit! Look how many signs are being brought into the arc, started with 1 less than three weeks ago now we see custom made signs that are sponsored by a corporate bank (1st Source Bank) :thumbsup: I will take that any day if the team, media and fans are inspired! If MSU has "Sparty On", Rutgers has "Keep Choppin" and Texas has Hook'em Horns" I'll take "Get Gritty".
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on January 20, 2019, 12:40:25 AM
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/1086762721192873984
I think it's time for perceptions of John Kiser to start changing a bit. He was big for us today and does a lot of things that don't show up in boxscores. If he can bring his usual rebounding and defensive toughness while pouring in 5-7 points a game or every other game he's extremely useful. He just might be developing into a bit more than solely a heart and hustle guy.
Agreed. Big positive about fazekas being out is Kiser has proven to be a better option than McMillan and can do what we need to win. When fazekas is back and playing 100% which will take several games the 6 minutes per half Kiser backs him up will be huge. Will help keep starter minutes down and intensity up, which is how we are winning games.
Also allows Bakari and Lavender to exclusively back up our 1-3 guards. And when somebody is in foul trouble or having a bad day, or is sick or whatever, we know Kiser will be battle tested and ready to take over more minutes when needed.
No. I get better flavor out of a can of chef boy r dee than eating at the Olive Garden.
Next I will hear that Red Lobster is elite seafood and Longhorn knows how to cook a steak.
Sadly this was the first game I was able to attend, but I noticed Eron Gordon elects to sit at the end of the bench away from the team. Even the managers are closer to the team than is Gordon.
By comparison, Robinson is in the thick of things hand slapping and rooting on his teammates.
Clearly I'm reading into things here. Does anyone more enlightened have a better read on this?
I've sat very close to the bench for all 3 home games and see no indication that Gordon is unhappy. He often seems to have a smile on his face. I think he's just a quiet guy who keeps to himself. I think his brother was the same way. He may not be the demonstrative leader type. That's okay we've got a few of those. No worries. Just let Eron get himself acclimated and ready to get buckets next year. I expect he'll be a big part of next years team.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 20, 2019, 11:25:54 AM
Sadly this was the first game I was able to attend, but I noticed Eron Gordon elects to sit at the end of the bench away from the team. Even the managers are closer to the team than is Gordon.
By comparison, Robinson is in the thick of things hand slapping and rooting on his teammates.
Clearly I'm reading into things here. Does anyone more enlightened have a better read on this?
I never really looked at eron's engagement too much on the bench but I've seen him get pretty hyped and excited for his teammates after big plays in the past. Maybe fans who get to the games more then me have a different take. I've heard he's a really good kid.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 20, 2019, 11:25:54 AM
Sadly this was the first game I was able to attend, but I noticed Eron Gordon elects to sit at the end of the bench away from the team. Even the managers are closer to the team than is Gordon.
By comparison, Robinson is in the thick of things hand slapping and rooting on his teammates.
Clearly I'm reading into things here. Does anyone more enlightened have a better read on this?
Eron is highly engaged. He stands with the rest of the team with arms raised on key hoops at crucial times. Watch him in the aftermath of the half court winning shot. He ran out onto the floor, then ran over to the pile and dived in with everyone else. Find him in the video that shows the team circled together at center court after that win. Watch his facial expressions showing total jubilation. He was completely pumped. I can't wait to see him in uniform next year!
Quote from: wh on January 20, 2019, 01:23:59 PMQuote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 20, 2019, 11:25:54 AMSadly this was the first game I was able to attend, but I noticed Eron Gordon elects to sit at the end of the bench away from the team. Even the managers are closer to the team than is Gordon. By comparison, Robinson is in the thick of things hand slapping and rooting on his teammates. Clearly I'm reading into things here. Does anyone more enlightened have a better read on this?
Eron is highly engaged. He stands with the rest of the team with arms raised on key hoops at crucial times. Watch him in the aftermath of the half court winning shot. He ran out onto the floor, then ran over to the pile and dived in with everyone else. Find him in the video that shows the team circled together at center court after that win. Watch his facial expressions showing total jubilation. He was completely pumped. I can't wait to see him in uniform next year!
I didn't notice him last night, but I seem to remember him reacting and cheering from the bench this year.
Maybe and I have NO CONFIRMATION if he guards Bakari in practice he got the flu bug from him and wanted to be away from everyone. You know it seems the players share everything on this team. ;)
How many of you thought the same thing. I know I was thinking it.
https://twitter.com/NatalieMP3/status/1087018368853524481
Did any one else catch Coach comments that Derrik has been still growing in the past year? I'm no doctor, but I did play one on TV.
Is it possible that a lot of his poor defense at Valpo prior to recent few games (maddening slowness to react to plays and move his feet) was partly caused by a late growth spurt. He has always had nice touch around the basketball and good foot speed for his size. Maybe the fact that he looked like a bashful slow-reacting 16 year old at times was because his body was still in the growth mode of a 16-year-old?
I don't care what has improved his strength and his play, I just salute him and take back some of my frustrations. He looked dominant vs UNI and showed some very skillful foot work on a couple of plays. If he can maintain this, look out MVC this year AND NEXT!
Quote from: crusadermoe on January 20, 2019, 02:48:59 PM
Did any one else catch Coach comments that Derrik has been still growing in the past year? I'm no doctor, but I did play one on TV.
Is it possible that a lot of his poor defense at Valpo prior to recent few games (maddening slowness to react to plays and move his feet) was partly caused by a late growth spurt. He has always had nice touch around the basketball and good foot speed for his size. Maybe the fact that he looked like a bashful slow-reacting 16 year old at times was because his body was still in the growth mode of a 16-year-old?
I don't care what has improved his strength and his play, I just salute him and take back some of my frustrations. He looked dominant vs UNI and showed some very skillful foot work on a couple of plays. If he can maintain this, look out MVC this year AND NEXT!
Could this be a similar reason for Mileek's struggles? He was still growing into his body his freshman year. Mileek has very late growth spurt in high school.
Mileek has a world potential but he just can't stay out of foul trouble. You could tell he's busting his @$$ when he's out there but it's almost like he's too excited or aggressive when he's out there. He's still only a sophomore.
Quote from: VU2014 on January 20, 2019, 03:15:25 PMQuote from: crusadermoe on January 20, 2019, 02:48:59 PMDid any one else catch Coach comments that Derrik has been still growing in the past year? I'm no doctor, but I did play one on TV. Is it possible that a lot of his poor defense at Valpo prior to recent few games (maddening slowness to react to plays and move his feet) was partly caused by a late growth spurt. He has always had nice touch around the basketball and good foot speed for his size. Maybe the fact that he looked like a bashful slow-reacting 16 year old at times was because his body was still in the growth mode of a 16-year-old? I don't care what has improved his strength and his play, I just salute him and take back some of my frustrations. He looked dominant vs UNI and showed some very skillful foot work on a couple of plays. If he can maintain this, look out MVC this year AND NEXT!
Could this be a similar reason for Mileek's struggles? He was still growing into his body his freshman year. Mileek has very late growth spurt in high school. Mileek has a world potential but he just can't stay out of foul trouble. You could tell he's busting his @$$ when he's out there but it's almost like he's too excited or aggressive when he's out there. He's still only a sophomore.
It would be great if Mileek followed Derrik's example and improved as much as he did from sophomore to Junior year. It was frustrating watching Derrik at time last year and now he is dominating. I guess sometimes it takes some players two years to develop. Hoping the best for Mileek because he truly is working hard to get better. Kid with a great attitude.
Banner day: Derrik Smits steps up with double-double as Valparaiso downs Northern Iowa
Michael Osipoff
Post-Tribune
January, 19, 2019
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-mens-basketball-northern-iowa-valparaiso-st-0120-story.html
https://twitter.com/MichaelOsipoff/status/1086789967404322816
Smits, Evelyn shine as Valparaiso tops Northern Iowa
Paul Oren Times Correspondent
Jan 19, 2019
https://www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/smits-evelyn-shine-as-valparaiso-tops-northern-iowa/article_545a7f68-d159-58fb-9752-82abd0552972.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share
https://twitter.com/Valpo_Hoops/status/1086805386081042434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-P2HlspEX0
With the coaching transition, some things have changed and some things stayed the same. The home run play will always remain.
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 20, 2019, 04:43:08 PM
With the coaching transition, some things have changed and some things stayed the same. The home run play will always remain.
We have run that play since the recipient would set shot the ball into a peach basket. Can somebody explain to me why it still works ???
Quote from: wh on January 20, 2019, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 20, 2019, 11:25:54 AM
Sadly this was the first game I was able to attend, but I noticed Eron Gordon elects to sit at the end of the bench away from the team. Even the managers are closer to the team than is Gordon.
By comparison, Robinson is in the thick of things hand slapping and rooting on his teammates.
Clearly I'm reading into things here. Does anyone more enlightened have a better read on this?
Eron is highly engaged. He stands with the rest of the team with arms raised on key hoops at crucial times. Watch him in the aftermath of the half court winning shot. He ran out onto the floor, then ran over to the pile and dived in with everyone else. Find him in the video that shows the team circled together at center court after that win. Watch his facial expressions showing total jubilation. He was completely pumped. I can't wait to see him in uniform next year!
Two points that should take care of this Eron Gordon thing.
1) He drove on his own to Chicago for the Loyola game. Players sitting out can't travel with the team. He got a ticket and he sat behind the bench and cheered on his teammates throughout the game.
2) That video of me recapping the UNI game...Eron Gordon shot that. I was walking around the ARC looking for a place to set my camera while recording a standup shot and he walked by and asked if I needed anything. I know he's active on social media and has some video skills, so I asked him if he could do me the favor of shooting the standup. He's an excellent guy. I've had a few conversations with him about non-basketball stuff. Looking forward to covering him over the next two years.
Quote from: Pgmado on January 20, 2019, 06:18:00 PM
Quote from: wh on January 20, 2019, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 20, 2019, 11:25:54 AM
Sadly this was the first game I was able to attend, but I noticed Eron Gordon elects to sit at the end of the bench away from the team. Even the managers are closer to the team than is Gordon.
By comparison, Robinson is in the thick of things hand slapping and rooting on his teammates.
Clearly I'm reading into things here. Does anyone more enlightened have a better read on this?
Eron is highly engaged. He stands with the rest of the team with arms raised on key hoops at crucial times. Watch him in the aftermath of the half court winning shot. He ran out onto the floor, then ran over to the pile and dived in with everyone else. Find him in the video that shows the team circled together at center court after that win. Watch his facial expressions showing total jubilation. He was completely pumped. I can't wait to see him in uniform next year!
Two points that should take care of this Eron Gordon thing.
1) He drove on his own to Chicago for the Loyola game. Players sitting out can't travel with the team. He got a ticket and he sat behind the bench and cheered on his teammates throughout the game.
2) That video of me recapping the UNI game...Eron Gordon shot that. I was walking around the ARC looking for a place to set my camera while recording a standup shot and he walked by and asked if I needed anything. I know he's active on social media and has some video skills, so I asked him if he could do me the favor of shooting the standup. He's an excellent guy. I've had a few conversations with him about non-basketball stuff. Looking forward to covering him over the next two years.
Glad to hear it, these were the type of replies I was searching for. Thanks all.
Just a quick compliment to Athletics on the quality of the Victory Bell replica giveaway at the game. I'm pleased the final score allowed everyone to use their souvenirs! :thumbsup:
There used to be a second victory bell that was mounted on a trailer and driven around campus after victories (at least football). Does that exist anymore?
Agreed, that was the best giveaway that I can remember (sorry Bryce and Homer Bobbleheads).
Quote from: humbleopinion on January 20, 2019, 09:46:00 PM
There used to be a second victory bell that was mounted on a trailer and driven around campus after victories (at least football). Does that exist anymore?
It didn't exist during my time as a student but a really cool idea. Might be worth looking into bringing back.
Quote from: justducky on January 20, 2019, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 20, 2019, 04:43:08 PM
With the coaching transition, some things have changed and some things stayed the same. The home run play will always remain.
We have run that play since the recipient would set shot the ball into a peach basket. Can somebody explain to me why it still works ???
It's set up so that if it won't be open, they do something else.
The next time we are in that situation, pay attention to whether or not there is a defender guarding the ball or helping make a 2-on-3 in the backcourt. If that defender is up, we run it. If the person guarding the inbounder is back near half-court, we simply set screens to get open.
The reason it looks like it always work is because whether or not we run it is dependent on the defense. If guarded a certain way (which everyone seems to do when they are desperate), it will always be there.
As ValpoHoops said several factors dictate if the longer pass option is even looked for, there are also several variations or looks to "the play".
Quote from: ValpoHoops on January 21, 2019, 03:21:52 AM
Quote from: justducky on January 20, 2019, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: oklahomamick on January 20, 2019, 04:43:08 PM
With the coaching transition, some things have changed and some things stayed the same. The home run play will always remain.
We have run that play since the recipient would set shot the ball into a peach basket. Can somebody explain to me why it still works ???
It's set up so that if it won't be open, they do something else.
The next time we are in that situation, pay attention to whether or not there is a defender guarding the ball or helping make a 2-on-3 in the backcourt. If that defender is up, we run it. If the person guarding the inbounder is back near half-court, we simply set screens to get open.
The reason it looks like it always work is because whether or not we run it is dependent on the defense. If guarded a certain way (which everyone seems to do when they are desperate), it will always be there.
It is amazing to me that I cannot recall anyone ever running the play against us.
I will never get tired of watching that play work perfectly! Does anyone have an update on Ryan's ankle? I saw he was still in a boot Saturday.
Quote from: valpolaw on January 21, 2019, 08:21:30 AM
I will never get tired of watching that play work perfectly! Does anyone have an update on Ryan's ankle? I saw he was still in a boot Saturday.
No update, but the boot is likely just precautionary at this point. I've had players walking around with boots on both feet for months at a time and never miss game time.
Quote from: FWalum on January 21, 2019, 07:26:37 AM
As ValpoHoops said several factors dictate if the longer pass option is even looked for, there are also several variations or looks to "the play".
Thanks guys. :thumbsup: During the course of an average season it seems like we will run it to perfection 4 or 5 times and I might only see others try it once or twice. Do other coaches view this as a high risk option thus choosing to play more conservatively? We also seem to almost never see it run against us. Is that because of our press alignment or because of our intimate understanding of the triggers and options?
Can't put a price on that giveaway.
And props to whoever is destroying UNI Big Mouth on MVC site.
Quote from: VUBBFan on January 19, 2019, 06:59:26 PM
Home run to Javon!!! :cheers:
https://twitter.com/FSIndiana/status/1086759679470911489
A.J. Green was the defender on Javon on that play. As Javon first begins his sprint to the other end, Green was right behind him. Notice that Bakari spreads his right leg out wide as Javon goes flying by, which slows Green up just enough to give Javon the separation he needs to get a comfortable lead. The rest is history.
Now consider this. Of the 5 Valpo players in the game, Javon is the most likely player to foul and put on the line. Green only had 1 foul at that point, so he's who UNI would want to commit the foul, thus they put him on Javon. UNI's other strategy would be to guard Valpo's other 4 players like glue while slacking off on Javon ever so slightly to force the inbounds pass to be thrown into him. But, instead of going towards the ball, Javon turns and sprints the other direction, catching everyone off guard. In essence, the last guy UNI thought Valpo wanted to throw the ball into was, in fact, Valpo's first Option. A lot of chess going on on that play, with the end result being UNI getting schooled.
Quote from: valpolaw on January 21, 2019, 08:21:30 AMI will never get tired of watching that play work perfectly
I watched the replay on twitter... GREAT pick move under the UNI basket to allow Javon to break away from his defender. That's why it worked.
To me, one of the funnest things about "the play" is that it seems like the entire ARC knows it's coming. I remember reading a forum thread on an opponent's fan board (I think Rhode Island) a while back, and the fans were complaining that the announcers (presumably Ickow and Huseman) knew the play was coming, yet their team seemed completely unprepared.
Since it has gotten to be such 'clockwork', might be fun if everyone in the ARC who knows it is coming to take out their cell phone to record it, or hold up some sort of sign, like the "Gritty" signs. Might look funny on TV.
I would imagine the only time we see it run against us will, or who will be able to stop it will by Vandy.
I think I remember that Detroit used that play when they beat us at the ARC for the Horizon League title game...the one famous for McCallum's dunk at the buzzer when they were running out the clock.
Easiest way to stop thsi is to stick the guy guarding the inbounded at half court 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Quote from: M on January 21, 2019, 12:47:59 PM
Easiest way to stop thsi is to stick the guy guarding the inbounded at half court 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Absolutely, I've seen the tallest guy on the court put at half court numerous times. How was this a big argument? I'm confused.
It's not dissimilar to football teams that stackthe box in a desperate attempt to stop a critical 3rd-and-1 or 3rd-and-goal. In turn, the QB fakes a handoff and passes to a wide open TE in the end zone. Everyone on both sides knows that play in their sleep, yet teams at every level continue to run it, sometimes successfully, sometimes not. It's high risk high reward.
Some clips about Saturday's game.
https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/1087461640633749504
https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/1087461135106887680
Quote from: VUBBFan on January 21, 2019, 03:58:52 PM
Some clips about Saturday's game.
https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/1087461640633749504
https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/1087461135106887680
Did we get Indy coverage like this while in the HL?
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 21, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: M on January 21, 2019, 12:47:59 PM
Easiest way to stop thsi is to stick the guy guarding the inbounded at half court 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Absolutely, I've seen the tallest guy on the court put at half court numerous times. How was this a big argument? I'm confused.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 21, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: M on January 21, 2019, 12:47:59 PM
Easiest way to stop thsi is to stick the guy guarding the inbounded at half court 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Absolutely, I've seen the tallest guy on the court put at half court numerous times. How was this a big argument? I'm confused.
This is the "read". If the opponent does not guard the inbounder (aka, the big guy is at half court), then the two guards up front simply have a 2-on-2 and set screens to get open.
So, teams take their chance that they can cover the deep guy and then have help near the ball. As we have seen, it rarely works.
I've used this play for many year with high school girls teams...it works just about every time with them as well.
Quote from: ValpoHoops on January 21, 2019, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 21, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: M on January 21, 2019, 12:47:59 PM
Easiest way to stop thsi is to stick the guy guarding the inbounded at half court 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Absolutely, I've seen the tallest guy on the court put at half court numerous times. How was this a big argument? I'm confused.
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 21, 2019, 01:00:16 PM
Quote from: M on January 21, 2019, 12:47:59 PM
Easiest way to stop thsi is to stick the guy guarding the inbounded at half court 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Absolutely, I've seen the tallest guy on the court put at half court numerous times. How was this a big argument? I'm confused.
This is the "read". If the opponent does not guard the inbounder (aka, the big guy is at half court), then the two guards up front simply have a 2-on-2 and set screens to get open.
So, teams take their chance that they can cover the deep guy and then have help near the ball. As we have seen, it rarely works.
I've used this play for many year with high school girls teams...it works just about every time with them as well.
Thanks for your experience, good to know. I suppose the next question would be what's more deadly...G having to go the whole court OR G catching a Doug Flutie Hail Mary? Truly situational...
The answer: Markus Golder 2/3rd court banker!!! 🤪😜😉
We need VUSWIM08-12 to make the next game thread. I'm not testing my luck lol
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on January 21, 2019, 04:46:49 PMQuote from: VUBBFan on January 21, 2019, 03:58:52 PMSome clips about Saturday's game. https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/1087461640633749504 https://twitter.com/MikeBerardino/status/1087461135106887680
Did we get Indy coverage like this while in the HL?
I think so. At least when we were winning but even then not quite as much as now now that Valpo stories are of interest to any Indiana State or Evansville alums in the Indy area due to our conference affiliation. I'm sure having 3 players on the team from the Indy area two of whom were fairly highly touted recruits connected to current and former NBA players doesn't hurt.
Great win. So glad to see us get a win against UNI (our first in 30 years! Last win vs. the Panthers was in Homer's first season at VU). In fairness, they left the old AMCU after the 1990 season, so the vast majority of the meetings occurred when we were terrible, but even then, there were several two and three-point losses to UNI. I remember back then that we simply could not get a 50/50 game to go our way against them, no matter what we seemed to do.
The lone gripe of the day: someone please fix that damn scorer's table ribbon board -- I mean, turn the thing off and reset it at halftime rather than let it flicker like that for the whole game. *Insanely* distracting and uncomfortable on the eyes for the viewer at home. I'm sure some casual viewers turned out over that.
QuoteDid we get Indy coverage like this while in the HL?
I think so. At least when we were winning but even then not quite as much as now now that Valpo stories are of interest to any Indiana State or Evansville alums in the Indy area due to our conference affiliation. I'm sure having 3 players on the team from the Indy area two of whom were fairly highly touted recruits connected to current and former NBA players doesn't hurt.
We definitely got that sort of coverage in Indy back in the HL days... at least while Butler was in the league. After that, not as much.
Nice win. But we should beat uni on our home gym.
The two freshman played great. Those were great recruits by the staff. Golder got big shots. Kiser also did well. Bakari hit a needed 3 pointer. The man of the game smits put on a show.
Now on to Indiana st. They are skilled and it's on the road. Will be very difficult to win a midweek away game but we will need this W if we want the top 2 seeds.
Did I just say a top two seed? I know it's early, but Didn't think that would ever be an option at the start of conference.
Quote from: valpolaw on January 21, 2019, 08:21:30 AM
I will never get tired of watching that play work perfectly! Does anyone have an update on Ryan's ankle? I saw he was still in a boot Saturday.
I've heard he truly is having issues with the ankle. And Trump has had no dealings with the Russians.
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