There are three holdovers from last year.
Moore DC/DB
Greiner OLB
Smith RB
Will any be retained?
Interesting that Snyder left after the season but was supposedly an HC candidate. Could he be talked into returning?
Two of the three are D guys. I don't know Greiner at all. I do know Moore and have respect for him. I do not think he will be the DC but I hope the young man stays on staff. If he does he will gain by what he learns under Fox. Can't comment on Smith either, but as some on the board have stated, RB is our strength right now. If he is tight with those kids and has noticably helped in their development, then he might be a good guy to hold onto.
The RB group, in terms of who's been playing amongst those coming back over the last few years has been pretty much the same guys. Cartales, Boxrucker and Elias a bit. I don't think they're any different than they were in year one other than I don't think Boxrucker has either advanced or been used enough. So I'm not sure any coach should be retained or not retained based on last year's performance (Snyder was the RB coach the prior year).
I'd like to see a complete break defensively.
Haven't seen an official announcement yet but...
https://twitter.com/CoachBDoc (https://twitter.com/CoachBDoc)...
http://www.gotiffindragons.com/sports/fball/coaches/dougherty?view=bio (http://www.gotiffindragons.com/sports/fball/coaches/dougherty?view=bio)...
Dayton connection. Wonder if they've told Coach Moore this little detail.
My guess is that Moore knew he was out almost immediately after Fox was hired.
With Fox being a defensive guy, he was either going to coordinate the def himself or get a guy in there who would run HIS system. Moore's only chance of staying on as DC was if an offensive-minded guy wanted to keep the current def staff in place. Hard to stay the same school when demoted back to a position coach. I suppose MAYBE Moore would stay on as a def asst. if Fox really wants to keep him, but Dougherty is a DB guy by experience. Don't see Moore working the LB or DL.
Quote from: NWIGuy on March 11, 2019, 08:37:36 PM
Haven't seen an official announcement yet but...
https://twitter.com/CoachBDoc (https://twitter.com/CoachBDoc)...
http://www.gotiffindragons.com/sports/fball/coaches/dougherty?view=bio (http://www.gotiffindragons.com/sports/fball/coaches/dougherty?view=bio)...
On paper this hire is incredibly underwhelming. But what do I know...
Thanks for the update NWIGuy. Good to see the staff coming together. If Ernest is gone, I can only wish him the best going forward. Hope he finds a good landing spot. If he stays, I'm sure Coach Fox will find a way to use him effectively.
And Indy, just like DC, whose OC was Miran, I suspect Dougherty (like Miran in DC's offense) will handle the day to day practice planning, but Fox will pull the strings over that whole side of the ball.
But the MOST IMPORTANT hire (IMO) will be the OC. That is gonna be BIG. It'll tell us a lot about what direction this team will take when we have the ball. This guy will bring in the system (unless Fox just brings over the Dayton playbook).
Brian Dougherty football career so far:
2010-12 Miami(OH): Did not play football, was a student manager
2013 Millikin: Intern/Corners
2014-15 Ball State: Grad Assistant (2nd wide receivers coach)
2015-16 Dayton: Corners Coach
2017-18: Tiffin Defensive Backs Coach
I have always been a firm believer that secondaries should be coached by someone who has played the position. This should be Fox's defense which he stated will be the one he had at Dayton. A 4-2-5, but wow left field
Quote from: NWIGuy on March 11, 2019, 09:45:35 PMMy guess is that Moore knew he was out almost immediately after Fox was hired. With Fox being a defensive guy, he was either going to coordinate the def himself or get a guy in there who would run HIS system. Moore's only chance of staying on as DC was if an offensive-minded guy wanted to keep the current def staff in place. Hard to stay the same school when demoted back to a position coach. I suppose MAYBE Moore would stay on as a def asst. if Fox really wants to keep him, but Dougherty is a DB guy by experience. Don't see Moore working the LB or DL.
I agree with all of this. My comment was due to the fact that both Valpo's website and Moore's twitter account still listed him as DC as of last night while the new DC's twitter had been updated to reflect him as Valpo's DC and I think his name was removed from the Tiffin coaches page.
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 11, 2019, 10:50:13 PMQuote from: NWIGuy on March 11, 2019, 08:37:36 PMHaven't seen an official announcement yet but... https://twitter.com/CoachBDoc (https://twitter.com/CoachBDoc)... http://www.gotiffindragons.com/sports/fball/coaches/dougherty?view=bio (http://www.gotiffindragons.com/sports/fball/coaches/dougherty?view=bio)...
On paper this hire is incredibly underwhelming. But what do I know...
I don't disagree but when you step back, Fox probably only needs to have a guy to run his defense and thus the Dayton connection. I'm actually more interested in the offensive staff.
You can't deny Dayton's defense has been superior for years. It will be fascinating to see our current defensive players fit in a 4-2-5 approach. We have recruited to a 4 linebacker scheme. Lots of excess players at that position. Perhaps there are potential TE's or WR's in the group. Maybe a kicker and punter ...
IU made a similar transition when Allen took over the head coaching position. I remember it effected one player TJ Simmons in particular. Bigger inside linebacker who really couldn't work sideline to sideline. I think he ended up redshirting and then graduating.
Turner and Messler are both in the box linebackers. Skarecky, Petrie, Twigg fit the 4-2-5 mold nicely.
It will be interesting to see where the Rush position players translate Bishop, Antoniou, and Marinelli.
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 12, 2019, 11:55:42 AMIU made a similar transition when Allen took over the head coaching position. I remember it effected one player TJ Simmons in particular. Bigger inside linebacker who really couldn't work sideline to sideline. I think he ended up redshirting and then graduating. Turner and Messler are both in the box linebackers. Skarecky, Petrie, Twigg fit the 4-2-5 mold nicely. It will be interesting to see where the Rush position players translate Bishop, Antoniou, and Marinelli.
Scarsella for the rover or whatever name they are going to call it (Crusader?)?
I was thinking more Booker in the crusader position with his ability to tackle
Something like this
Orlandini Goebel Olojo Reed
Booker Turner Petrie
LeAndre Sherman Scarsella Kelly/Hebda
According to his twitter Zach Carney first year grad from Mount Union (Played WR 1 Catch Last Season) has accepted a coaching role at Valparaiso
I wouldn't mind seeing Petrie converted to a DE, especially as an edge rusher. Seemed pretty instinctive as a pass rusher in the couple of games I got to see in 2018.
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 12, 2019, 02:51:42 PMI was thinking more Booker in the crusader position with his ability to tackle Something like this Orlandini Goebel Olojo Reed Booker Turner Petrie LeAndre Sherman Scarsella Kelly/Hebda According to his twitter Zach Carney first year grad from Mount Union (Played WR 1 Catch Last Season) has accepted a coaching role at Valparaiso
That's likely one of the intern roles we saw advertised.
Dougherty has changed is title on twitter from DC to Assistant Coach, Moore still stands as DC proven otherwise
2019 Staff Tracker:
Fox-HC
Moore-DC
Greiner-Assistant-Defense
Dougherty-Assistant-Defense
Smith-Assistant Offense
Carney-Assistant-?
I'd imagine a staff would need to reasonably be in place for when the players return from break so they can be handed a playbook.
If Ernest is, indeed, being retained as the DC, he has a lot of unlearning as well as new learning ahead. Cramming is more like it. He'll have to be at least one day ahead of the players ;D
But I think I can speak for all Crusaderdom, and 99 seasons of FB alums living and deceased, in that we are waiting with great anticipation for the OC announcement. ::)
So one of our new coaches says he is the DC and now just an assistant. Either he was wrong or Moore hadn't been told yet. Either way what an embarrassing beginning.
The Fox era is off to a disappointing start.
The special teams coordinator can go on the back burner until Valpo recruits the most important members of of those units....the kicker and punter.
Quote from: JD24 on March 14, 2019, 11:16:33 PM
The special teams coordinator can go on the back burner until Valpo recruits the most important members of of those units....the kicker and punter.
At this point we need one staff member who does nothing but find at least one of each, plus one who can do both. Is it really that hard?
This late in the preseason it might be, Indy. Usually the attrition after the departures/firings at the end of the season result in a lot of coaches being out on the street for a bit while new staffs get sorted out and assembled. We are way behind. The really good pickups are already hired and working. Hopefully Fox has developed a good network that would allow him to do some cherry picking. Another option is to be able to offer salaries that are very attractive and steal a guy or three. I hope that between his contact network and a FB budget that can handle some salary bumps, the OC, at least, can be lured here damn soon.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 16, 2019, 08:24:03 AMThis late in the preseason it might be, Indy. Usually the attrition after the departures/firings at the end of the season result in a lot of coaches being out on the street for a bit while new staffs get sorted out and assembled. We are way behind. The really good pickups are already hired and working. Hopefully Fox has developed a good network that would allow him to do some cherry picking. Another option is to be able to offer salaries that are very attractive and steal a guy or three. I hope that between his contact network and a FB budget that can handle some salary bumps, the OC, at least, can be lured here damn soon.
The S&C position posting leaves me thinking that salary will not be an attraction unless that posting left out some things which were part of the package.
That bothered me too.
I was hopeful that somewhere in the 100 page plan were coaches he had lined up. 2 weeks later we have officially added no one.
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 16, 2019, 01:40:17 PMI was hopeful that somewhere in the 100 page plan were coaches he had lined up. 2 weeks later we have officially added no one.
I'm either guessing or hoping the delay is to allow for the players to return and have the coaches introduced to them first prior to making the hires public.
Hoping.
Quote from: JD24 on March 16, 2019, 04:45:36 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 16, 2019, 01:40:17 PMI was hopeful that somewhere in the 100 page plan were coaches he had lined up. 2 weeks later we have officially added no one.
I'm either guessing or hoping the delay is to allow for the players to return and have the coaches introduced to them first prior to making the hires public.
Hoping.
Yes let's go with that!!
Landon Fox Head Coach Dayton-Defensive Coordinator
Zach Carney Defensive Tackles Mount Union-Player
Brannon Dunn Wittenberg-CoDefensive Coodinator
Brandon Frase Ohio Weselyan-Player
Chris Limbach Quarterbacks Edinboro-Offensive Coordinator/QB
Devin Figaro Receivers Notre Dame College-Receivers
Jon Robinson Linebackers Wayne State
Zach Greiner Valparaiso
Brian Dougherty Defensive Coordinator Tiffin University-DB's
Cory Colder Runningbacks East Tennesee St.-Player
Dave Bucar Maryland-Tight Ends
This is the staff as of this second, I am not sure who O-Coordinator is (maybe Bucar leaving position coach in BIG10). Looks like a younger staff with ties to Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, and Tennessee
Just a guess but I bet Limbach is the OC and Bucar takes the OL. Only reason to leave the FBS gig to to have the whole OL group.
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 17, 2019, 05:42:54 PMLandon Fox Head Coach Dayton-Defensive Coordinator Zach Carney Defensive Tackles Mount Union-Player Brannon Dunn Wittenberg-CoDefensive Coodinator Brandon Frase Ohio Weselyan-Player Chris Limbach Quarterbacks Edinboro-Offensive Coordinator/QB Devin Figaro Receivers Notre Dame College-Receivers Jon Robinson Linebackers Wayne State Zach Greiner Valparaiso Brian Dougherty Defensive Coordinator Tiffin University-DB's Cory Colder Runningbacks East Tennesee St.-Player Dave Bucar Maryland-Tight Ends This is the staff as of this second, I am not sure who O-Coordinator is (maybe Bucar leaving position coach in BIG10). Looks like a younger staff with ties to Indiana, Illinois, Ohio, and Tennessee
You mentioned earlier in the thread that Zach Carney was a WR at Mount Union last year and he's now an (I'm assuming) intern as a DT coach? I realize coaches don't always coach the positions they played but this seems a bit extreme.
Quote from: NWIGuy on March 17, 2019, 07:33:34 PMJust a guess but I bet Limbach is the OC and Bucar takes the OL. Only reason to leave the FBS gig to to have the whole OL group.
Limbach lists himself as the QB coach on his twitter page but, of course, that could change. I assume we'll find out tomorrow after the team met/meets the staff. He's got 3 years as OC at Edinboro.
VULB#62 will be happy to find out that he was the OC for some record breaking performance on the offensive side of the ball but it seems to be pass, Pass and when all else fails PASS!!!!!!
I'll have to look further into things once an announcement is made. Bucar may be looked upon as a short term guy until he gets another FBS gig somewhere.
Official Coaching roster
HC: Landon Fox-Dayton old DC
OC/QB: Chris Limbach-Ediboro OC
WR: Devin Figaro-Notre Dame College Receivers
RB: Cory Colder- East Tennessee St. Player
TE: Zach Greiner- Valparaiso Outside Linebackers
OL: Dave Bucar- Maryland Tight Ends
DL: Brannon Dunn- Wittenberg DC
DT: Zach Carney- Mount Union Player
LB: Jon Robinson-Wayne State Linebackers
LB: Brandon Frase- Ohio Weselyan Player
DC/DB: Brian Dougherty-Tiffin DB's
S&C: Alex Curtis- Western Kentucky S&C
Valpofb16 thank you for always providing great insight and accurate information. Very helpful to us who aren't able to spend time we would like staying in touch with the football program. However I did see a couple other comments about new coach being off to a disappointing start? Looks like the info was indeed correct as the coach stated is in fact the co-defensive coordinator and we all know Coach Fox will have his hands all over defesne anyways. Also, all other remaining staffers are usually told by day 2 if they are going to remain, get an interview or be let go. Also the PASS, PASS, PASS offense of the Edinboro offense. Looking at their team statistics over past two years:
2018: Pass-2275 Rush-2047
2017: Pass-2648 Rush-2048
Seems like an excellent balance between pass and run!!! I,d take that! We can all have our own opinions but let's keep it all accurate here please....thanks again Valpofb16 for keeping us all up to date much appreciated.
ValpoGeorge,
Thank you for your response!
With Limbach if I remember correctly it was
2018: Pass 49% Rush 51%
2017: Pass 63% Rush 37%
2016: Pass 75% Rush 25%
That was in attempts not yards.
Watching highlights this offense appears to be a true spread, tight end removed from LOS mostly. It appears he has worked toward gaining balance in his play calling.
Looks as if the balance was achieved based on the players available. Limbach's first couple of seasons at Edinboro he had a QB who appears as if he was pretty good. Last year there were 2 QBs used and didn't put up the same numbers as the previous two seasons plus they had a RB they attached their saddle to.
This is a good thing because it would appear he gears the offense to the available roster.
QBs appear to run 3-5 times a game.
JD that is great news, offensively I think personnel wise we will maintain status quo in terms of position changes. Martin may have to become a full time running back or tight end,
Defensive personnel is where things get tricky, I believe VULB touched on this. There was four years of recruiting a 3-4 multiple and now we a transitioning into a 4-2-5. Do rush ends move off the line and we play them at backer or do they stay and become undersized at their positions. I think tackles wise we definitely have the weight up front. Also we have essentially recruited three inside linebacker spots, that now becomes two. There is a Crusader position which is a DB hybrid, safety was a position that lacked depth last season. It will be interesting to see where players find their new homes in this defense.
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 18, 2019, 10:48:00 AMJD that is great news, offensively I think personnel wise we will maintain status quo in terms of position changes. Martin may have to become a full time running back or tight end
Edinboro only had two TEs on the roster and one caught 13 passes but for substantial yardage which probably means the occasional surprise seam route downfield rather than a dependable first down crutch for the QB. With Sutter gone there's only two TEs listed but I'm not sure either are receiving threats as Kluck was used mostly to block last season although he played a lot in 12 personnel sets which will probably not be used at all except maybe goal line situations going forward. We'll likely see much more 10 personnel sets.
QuoteDefensive personnel is where things get tricky, I believe VULB touched on this. There was four years of recruiting a 3-4 multiple and now we a transitioning into a 4-2-5. Do rush ends move off the line and we play them at backer or do they stay and become undersized at their positions. I think tackles wise we definitely have the weight up front. Also we have essentially recruited three inside linebacker spots, that now becomes two. There is a Crusader position which is a DB hybrid, safety was a position that lacked depth last season. It will be interesting to see where players find their new homes in this defense.
I'll have to look at how Dayton lined up on the edge. I'd guess Turner wouldn't have too much of an issue at Mike and same with Petrie at Will. I suggested Scarsella as the rover player mainly because I thought he might grow into a linebacker at some point anyway but as you pointed out previously, whoever it is really has to be able to tackle in the box.
Interesting group of coaches. Happy to see it come together. Cecchini had 9 total coaches we currently have 8 plus the 3 interns. Perhaps another is coming. We filled the strength coordinator position!!
Good to see one holdover for continuity.
Bucar is an interesting pick up. His history has been working for Matt Canada who I thought did a good job holding Maryland together last year. He will ultimately find a job so this one may be temporary.
Limbach appears to be seasoned (that's a very good thing) and having OC gigs at multiple stops tells me he has grown into the job and has steadily improved the level at which he was a F/T position coach. It will be interesting to see how the O is like (or unlike) what we've seen here in the past. Generally, in the coaching community, jobs are oftentimes filled through the connections coaches have with each other. My curiosity is getting the better of me and I wonder what the connects are between Fox and Limbach, if any. And thanks for all the digging, 16.
quick look at what I could find online of Dayton's defense the last few years show 4 DL with hand in dirt with the DEs responsible for setting the edge while also getting to the passer. IOW typical of a 4 man front. Valpo has a number of DLmen returning who've played a fair amount of time but in a 3 man front likely had more responsibility in run stopping and occupying the OL so the OL couldn't get to the second level and the LBers. So I'd think these guys would be perhaps a bit bigger and more anchor guys than get up field guys.
With only two LBers on the field most of the time, this hurts guys such as Skarecky and Messler as I assume Petrie and Turner would be the guys out there the most and the first two I mention don't appear to be candidates to move up a level.
valpofb16 can always chime in here but, in watching what will be the Crusader position, I don't see Petrie as the ideal fit as the hybrid is SS/OLB and there are deep coverage responsibilities which is a whole new world to guys who've played LBer during their careers. Typically guys who are good at the hybrid spot start as Safeties and move forward. I believe Brian Urlacher and Zach Thomas fall into this category as does Derrick Brooks.
Petrie was our best pass rusher from his OLB position last year. Very rarely saw him drop into coverage. Seems like a natural to convert him to a DE. Messler & Turner will play ILB is my guess.
Not really knowing Fox's D, I am just sitting back and waiting. I am giving EKU an easy win and the battle of the new HCs will be interesting when we meet CCSU. But to me the Truman State game will be a barometer. If we stop their running attack, which we could not do in 18, it will prove to me that there has been a positive change in how we defend our house.
JD24 agreed to your point Fox plays four traditional dlinemen across the board, its not inconceivable that we start Olojo-Goebel-Gedrys-Reed, i think they are used to swallow up linemen and let backers shoot. Inside LB is a rough spot because there are 5 quality candidates (Petrie, Turner, Twigg, Skareky, Messler) for two spots. I believe Petrie will man one of the spots the other is anyone's guess. I agree with you on the downfield coverage philosophy. I think Booker would be great at the CR position however that leaves us thin out back. Scarsella could be a make shift option. Looking at incoming recruits Evan Annis and Cam Brown's highlight films they appear to be tailor made for this positions. Also look for McKeag or Poloskey here
NWIGuy Petrie definitely was our best blitzing backer but transitioning into a down linemen would be tough. Small frame makes it hard to create separation off of LOS. Also if lined up on strong side tackle-tight end double teams could be a major issue.
VULB i agree in a sense. If we get beat in the 20-40 pt range by EKU it means we showed up and competed. If the scores get to 50-60-70(gulp) we were ill prepared. Truman St. is an absolute must win heading into Dayton, Drake, San Diego
Might be time to get Moore and Smith off the coaches page..
Named fixed thanks 62
Moore and Smith.
Now that the old coaches are gone, can we get the new guys introduced and up on the website? Is getting their formal bios put together holding this up or is there some other more nefarious>:( aura at work.
Quote from: JD24 on March 19, 2019, 05:22:24 PMIs getting their formal bios put together holding this up or is there some other more nefarious
The question on the delay of announcements comes up a lot here and elsewhere when we have staff additions. It's neither of those - nothing out of the ordinary is taking place, but it's not just me not getting around to writing the story either in most cases. There are a number of i's that have to be dotted and t's that have to be crossed before we can officially announce staff additions and that process can take a few days. Staff announcements are on the way in the coming days.
Thanks Brandon. Can always count on you.
I know Brandon has a lot on his plate i believe he is SID for Baseball, Football, and Softball if my memory serves me correct.
One thing I would love is a spring roster. Even if it is not posted on website a PDF on the spring game preview would be great. I believe they hand them out at the game so there would be a file. Not sure the ins and outs in linking it to a web URL
Brandon's already addressed the issue and it isn't apparently a hold up with how much the SID has on his plate.
The spring roster has never, to my knowledge or recollection, been published online. For some reason I've always believed this to be intentional although what is being avoided I'm not sure. Maybe spring football not being an official sport drags in privacy laws? I don't know.
JD never said that was the hold up. Just said Brandon does a lot of stuff for the University. More of an appreciation post if you will as I know Brandon personally.
Thanks
It appears they posted the roster in 2015 which is interesting as I believe that was the lowest total players to play in a spring to my knowledge since 2012. Lots of new faces the next fall! (55 I believe)
Minor update: the only three freshman OL remaining are Russell, Byrd. and Drs I believe that leaves 10 on the roster with 4 incoming.
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 20, 2019, 11:26:49 AM
Minor update: the only three freshman OL remaining are Russell, Byrd. and Drs I believe that leaves 10 on the roster with 4 incoming.
Ouch
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 20, 2019, 09:55:05 AMOne thing I would love is a spring roster.
I'll check into it and see what we can do as far as a roster published online in advance of the spring game.
Quote from: valpofb16 on March 20, 2019, 11:26:49 AMJD never said that was the hold up. Just said Brandon does a lot of stuff for the University. More of an appreciation post if you will as I know Brandon personally. Thanks It appears they posted the roster in 2015 which is interesting as I believe that was the lowest total players to play in a spring to my knowledge since 2012. Lots of new faces the next fall! (55 I believe) Minor update: the only three freshman OL remaining are Russell, Byrd. and Drs I believe that leaves 10 on the roster with 4 incoming.
Assuming I counted correctly that means 5 defections.
First announcement is up
http://valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18963/alex-curtis-named-valpo-football-strength-and-conditioning-coach/
I like how they include some quotes from others who have worked with the coach.
Crusader05 nailed it!
Brandon great write ups, I also like the new headshots coming in with the coaches to give the website a uniform approach. '
This is Valpo's first full time football strength and conditioning coach. It went from Bob Brooks, to an intern (sadly I forget his name), to Stovall, then Rouse. All had separate responsibilities. I am excited to see the results.
Also, I'm interested in if the strategy really is to find the up-coming talent via a network and mine it for all it's worth. Especially if you know you're not gonna be able to lure the big guns. Fine the young ones people are excited about and give them real opportunity. You need to have a good eye for it and good references in the coaching world but it can be done for sure!
Quote from: JD24 on March 16, 2019, 08:59:48 AM
The S&C position posting leaves me thinking that salary will not be an attraction unless that posting left out some things which were part of the package.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18963/alex-curtis-named-valpo-football-strength-and-conditioning-coach/
I can't see a guy with his resume coming on board for what the posting listed as a F/T salary (Under $30K if I recall). So there had to be some upward adjustment. Glad he is on board. The article also emphasizes Fox priorities. We were getting stronger as a team uneder DC, but Rouse probabaly was not nearly as qualified as Curtis.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 21, 2019, 02:38:56 PMQuote from: JD24 on March 16, 2019, 08:59:48 AMThe S&C position posting leaves me thinking that salary will not be an attraction unless that posting left out some things which were part of the package.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18963/alex-curtis-named-valpo-football-strength-and-conditioning-coach/ I can't see a guy with his resume coming on board for what the posting listed as a F/T salary (Under $30K if I recall). So there had to be some upward adjustment. Glad he is on board. The article also emphasizes Fox priorities. We were getting stronger as a team uneder DC, but Rouse probabaly was not nearly as qualified as Curtis.
Not sure why Rouse wouldn't be considered as qualified as Curtis particularly the not nearly part. An equally pertinent argument can be made in the other direction. However, in the interest of optimism, I guess all the new guys have to be better than the old guys.
One clue is the respective Valpo FB bios (which we no longer have for Rouse) and the second is job description. I believe, repeat believe, that Tony was hired to coach the DL and was given a second task, S&C. His resume covered both in order to justify the dual roles. Pretty much like Vinny G, who was OL/ Recruiting Coordinator. Curtis' resume is laser pointed at S&C. All of his previous positions reflected just that at some pretty sizable schools. Curtis was precisely hired only for S&C with no published secondary responsibilities. That's my rationale for inferring that Curtis is better qualified for the S&C position. Regardless, I'm glad we have a F/T S&C guy on the staff.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 21, 2019, 09:37:38 PMOne clue is the respective Valpo FB bios (which we no longer have for Rouse) and the second is job description. I believe, repeat believe, that Tony was hired to coach the DL and was given a second task, S&C. His resume covered both in order to justify the dual roles. Pretty much like Vinny G, who was OL/ Recruiting Coordinator. Curtis' resume is laser pointed at S&C. All of his previous positions reflected just that at some pretty sizable schools. Curtis was precisely hired only for S&C with no published secondary responsibilities. That's my rationale for inferring that Curtis is better qualified for the S&C position. Regardless, I'm glad we have a F/T S&C guy on the staff.
Rouse background was/is very similar to Curtis. http://www.valpoathletics.com/athletics/staff/7548/tony-rouse/
If the decision was made to make the S&C guy fulltime this time that has nothing to do with the qualifications of either coach.
Per their Twitter
Limbach is OC
Bucar is Asst HC
Robinson is SC
As well as their previous position assignments
Is Dougherty definitely the DC? His twitter page still says assistant.
Dougherty 100% d-coordinator by label
Officail release on the OC and DC: http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18979/limbach-dougherty-hired-as-valpo-football-coordinators/
Brandon really wrote 'em up.
Write-ups on the rest of the assistants not counting the interns.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/18989/fox-announces-additions-to-valpo-football-staff/
Seems like Fox has a assembled a very solid young staff. I get that it's still very early, but feels like this group is about as good as can be expected with most having the kind of resume you'd expect at this level. Best move IMHO was deciding to make the S&C a full-time position with no other responsibilities. Will be interesting to see if that draws more of the team to find a way to stay in Valpo for the summer and train together. That could also lead to some player-run OTAs.
Spring Practice #1 is tomorrow...
Article on the three remaining coaches not formally introduced.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/19029/valpo-football-completes-coaching-staff-with-three-additions/
Quote from: JD24 on April 10, 2019, 08:48:38 PM
Article on the three remaining coaches not formally introduced.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/football/news/2018-19/19029/valpo-football-completes-coaching-staff-with-three-additions/
More Ohio connections! I grew up there. There are PLENTY of talented football players.
There is a pattern emerging here if I am not mistaken. ;D . Fox is hiring guys, from top to bottom, who have winning football in their DNA. That's a great starting base. But their backgrounds are diverse. So just as important is how Coach Fox pulls all these winning guys into a cohesive coaching team in a very limited time frame in order to get us ready for the 2019 season.
The other burden on all these guys is finding replacements for kids leaving the program as well as bringing the 2019 class numbers up before the end of the school year. I like that they are looking at JUCO players as an interim solution.
But whoever they bring in, they have another challenge - rapid evaluation and assimilatation prior to EKU.
Best wishes, Coach Fox.
BTW, when was the last time that Valpo Football had 12 coaches on staff? This sure looks like additional commitment by the AD.
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 10, 2019, 10:18:56 PMThere is a pattern emerging here if I am not mistaken. ;D . Fox is hiring guys, from top to bottom, who have winning football in their DNA. That's a great starting base. But their backgrounds are diverse. So just as important is how Coach Fox pulls all these winning guys into a cohesive coaching team in a very limited time frame in order to get us ready for the 2019 season. The other burden on all these guys is finding replacements for kids leaving the program as well as bringing the 2019 class numbers up before the end of the school year. I like that they are looking at JUCO players as an interim solution. But whoever they bring in, they have another challenge - rapid evaluation and assimilatation prior to EKU. Best wishes, Coach Fox. BTW, when was the last time that Valpo Football had 12 coaches on staff? This sure looks like additional commitment by the AD.
The last three are unpaid interns IIRC.
Article on Coach Limbach
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-football-valparaiso-chris-limbach-st-041119-story.html
Quote from: JD24 on April 11, 2019, 08:56:35 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on April 10, 2019, 10:18:56 PMThere is a pattern emerging here if I am not mistaken. ;D . Fox is hiring guys, from top to bottom, who have winning football in their DNA. That's a great starting base. But their backgrounds are diverse. So just as important is how Coach Fox pulls all these winning guys into a cohesive coaching team in a very limited time frame in order to get us ready for the 2019 season. The other burden on all these guys is finding replacements for kids leaving the program as well as bringing the 2019 class numbers up before the end of the school year. I like that they are looking at JUCO players as an interim solution. But whoever they bring in, they have another challenge - rapid evaluation and assimilatation prior to EKU. Best wishes, Coach Fox. BTW, when was the last time that Valpo Football had 12 coaches on staff? This sure looks like additional commitment by the AD.
The last three are unpaid interns IIRC.
Whatever. I have never seen 12 pics on the FB coaches page at Valpo. Ever.
Many programs go with "grad assistants" to fill niche coaching slots and list them as such. Those guys get grad tuition and a stipend as their remuneration. However, Valpo lists them as coaches, period. ???
BTW, if, indeed, they are unpaid interns (from outside the NWI region to boot), I assume the program has reserved prime space under a nearby underpass and has leased suitable packing crates for lodging. Also, one of the great benefits of the economy these days is that McDonald's is offering flex hours that would easily accommodate their football responsibilities. ::) ;)
The coaching staff is 9 plus the interns. Under Dave C it was 9 plus student assistants...anywhere from 1 to 3. Maybe bringing in the interns is a step up.
Football is a team sport played with a spherical ball between two teams of eleven players. It is played by 250 million players in over 200 countries and dependencies, making it the world's most popular sport. Every Team have 6 to 10 staff member like- Coach, Head Coach, Physician,Doctor etc.
GOOOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!!
Perhaps we should get Sepp Blatter on the Valpo trustee board. He is a man of integrity.
TRANSFER: Trejuan Purty 6-0 225 DL RSSO. East Tennessee State.
Maryville High School Maryville, Tenn National Rank: 174(2016)
Eligible immediately
Roster at 101
Quote from: valpofb16 on June 05, 2019, 09:00:27 PM
TRANSFER: Trejuan Purty 6-0 225 DL RSSO. East Tennessee State.
Maryville High School Maryville, Tenn National Rank: 174(2016)
Eligible immediately
Roster at 101
This kid looks like a real stud rushing from the edge. Great speed and apparent strength.
https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/trejuan-purty/dZkh_EMPEeOZXQAmVebBJg/default.htm
Yes can never be too sure on transfers but I think Twiggs job just became a lot harder to earn
Maybe but he's a bit small for a DL and I don't think he played either year at ETSU.
Strange going from scholarship to non scholarship. We will see.
Quote from: usc4valpo on June 06, 2019, 03:41:43 PMStrange going from scholarship to non scholarship. We will see.
He's an engineering student so there may be more than football as a motivator.
That is good to hear - academics ALWAYS should take preference in the Valpo football program.
Ed Reny has joined the staff as a tight end coach
Grad Assistant O-Line Coach at Wayne State: 2017-18
Playing Career at Wayne State: 32 GP 2 GS-Oline
Not sure what this means for Zach Greiner's future with program however having two tight end coaches for three kids seems unlikely....
Appears to be a clean sweep of the Cecchini era
Greiner is still listed on the FB staff page at this point. We'll see.
In case parents/former players are wondering where former coaches landed from 2018
HC: Dave Cecchini-HC Bucknell University (FCS)
OC/WR: Jason Miran OC/QB Bucknell University (FCS)
OL: Vincent Giacalone-OL Bucknell University (FCS)
DC/DB: Ernest Moore- N/A
TE/ST: John Snyder- WR Chesterton (HS)
DL/S&T: Tony Rouse- N/A
LB: Rob Tulcin- LB Lawrence University (D3)
RB: Jerome Smith - DL St. Thomas University (D3)
OLB: Zach Greiner - Valpo? TE
DSA: Jake Iery- OLB Northern State University (D2)
Can confirm Greiner is ousted
Ousted or did he leave for a different job?
Coach Greiner is still on the Valpo Athletics website and he still is listed on his twitter id as Valpo's TEs coach. Meanwhile Coach Reny shows Valpo and appears to have been active with Valpo for at least a month.
Are we sure there's been a change rather than simply an add?
Greiner no longer listed on the Valpo site. Reny is having his suit pressed to have his pic posted.
Quote from: JD24 on July 20, 2019, 08:55:23 AM
Greiner no longer listed on the Valpo site. Reny is having his suit pressed to have his pic posted.
Assistant OL coach at Ball State
Win/win. Glad Greiner landed on his feet. Glad Fox has his own 100% staff. For Greiner, that is a pretty big leap. From PFL to MAC.
No surprise one of our interns Brandon Frase has taken a DB coaching job at D2 Kentucky Wesleyan.
WR coach Figaro is now at Lenoir-Rhyne in North Carolina. LR names a new coach from Notre Dame College where he was an assistant prior to Valpo
I'm probably late to the party with this but has Coach Bucar always been listed as Assistant Head Coach or has this title been recently added?
Quote from: JD24 on January 02, 2020, 05:10:16 PM
I'm probably late to the party with this but has Coach Bucar always been listed as Assistant Head Coach or has this title been recently added?
Yes he has...
That's a paid assistant leaving and going "down" a level, with kids quitting, amount returning and a coaching shuffle on offense that side of the ball has some major questions
Let's be honest - the Valpo offense was unacceptable and a total overhaul is not out of the question.
I don't think Figaro moving to L-R is a step down in any fashion. That's a program that played a one score game in a playoff game vs. the eventual Div II champion. They probably beat every PFL team save SD.
Also Fox had to put together a staff pretty quickly. Not surprised to see turnover.
I think this recruiting class quality and coaching staff overhaul is critical to get the football program off life support.
Recruiting class has emphasis on player size and team need. Cecchini went balanced with his classes but players seemed to always be undersized. Good numbers so far.
In terms of staff. The defensive side showed maybe the 2nd best Valpo defense this decade. Limbach needs to work magic to revamp the other side
Quote from: valpofb16 on January 04, 2020, 07:54:59 PMRecruiting class has emphasis on player size and team need. Cecchini went balanced with his classes but players seemed to always be undersized.
In terms of need at the skill positions, which I'd say would be pretty important from last year's roster, no QBs, 1 RB, no WRs and 3 TEs it's hard to argue that they have recruited (or at least landed) based on need. The WRs improved late in the year and the need may have been lessened by the late surge of Reese, Larose and Lopez assuming they all return but the team is nearly desperate for a QB and RB or two. TE, of the skill positions on offense, appeared to be the least needy.
JD great points. QB is a question mark as always and think there will most likely be three freshman at least here next season. May have stricken out on our top options.
RB we still have Allison, Haugh, Curtis, Engle. Engle and Curtis look the part, Allison has a load of potential. Robinson appears to be a good fit as well.
The TEs we have brought in are definitely more traditional blocking tight ends. Cecc went with lankier guys (Sutter, Kluck, Bittner, Petruf) for pass game purposes. I think the staff understands how far behind the oline is.
Receiver is actually quite deep Larose, Bingham, Stablein, Reese, Lopez now we just need someone who can get them the ball.
All this to sum up this final point. The OLine was abysmal last year for various reasons. The staff realizes that we will need TE support in the run game and added several large bodies to develop. By the end of the year teams had 0 respect for our run game.
at RB, you have numbers, but are those quality numbers?
agree on the WR assessment but there is room for improvement, not sure about TE.
A Stable and competent offensive coaching staff is imperative.
Also, Fox will continue to learn in his head coaching role which is beneficial.
I'm in agreement with usc on the RBs. We just haven't seen these guys to know if they are any good or not. Allison seemed to get hurt right away, Haugh's been hanging around and not getting any snaps with the offense. Neither of those are good signs because it was not a situation in which the guys who were getting the carries and receptions out of the backfield were tearing it up. My thoughts in those situations are that, if they could play, they'd have been in there.
New Defensive coach RJ Ghilarducci, comes from USD. I am not exactly sure where he fits in.
Replaces Coach Frase
OLB's coach according to his twitter.
New guy will coach the Nickels, same as Frase
Quote from: NWIGuy on January 25, 2020, 07:28:56 PMRJ Ghilarducci,
No reason to doubt you at all. However somebody better tell this guy:
QuoteRj Ghilarducci (https://twitter.com/Coach_RJG) @Coach_RJG Outside Linebackers Coach @Valpoufootball (https://twitter.com/Valpoufootball)
Coach Carney (Asst DL) has left the Valpo staff...
https://twitter.com/CoachZCarney (https://twitter.com/CoachZCarney)
Coach Bucar (Asst HC/OL) has left the Valpo staff...
https://twitter.com/CoachBucar (https://twitter.com/CoachBucar)
Quote from: NWIGuy on February 14, 2020, 02:57:27 PM
Coach Carney (Asst DL) has left the Valpo staff...
https://twitter.com/CoachZCarney (https://twitter.com/CoachZCarney)
Coach Bucar (Asst HC/OL) has left the Valpo staff...
https://twitter.com/CoachBucar (https://twitter.com/CoachBucar)
No real surprise as Carney was an intern and gets a actual coaching job. Bucar returns to FBS.
2 interns gone but we really need to keep the third as Colder was extremely successful recruiting in VA and NC.
The way staff broke out last year
Head Coach: Fox
Assistants (Full-Time): Bucar, Figaro, Limbach, Dunn, Robinson, Doherty,
Assistants (Intern): Carney, Frase, Reny ,Colder
Resolution: Seems like a no brainer to bump Colder with his recruiting season to the paid list. A full time OL coach is needed quickly with all the young guys in the program. Reny appears to be a holdover. This leaves WR, DT, and then we've replaced OLB .
Bucar leaving makes sense he was an FBS guy hired late in the cycle, step down to step back up. Figaro was a hard loss as I felt receivers progressed over season. More or less, spring ball is less than two months away. While not ideal, i'd rather be in this position than where the program was last year at this time.
Dont assistant coaches contracts typically run through the spring? I don't see this situation as any big deal or out of the ordinary.
Fred Gladney '14 has been named wide receivers coach
Great, someone from the Osteen era, that will help!
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 29, 2020, 10:51:36 AMGreat, someone from the Osteen era, that will help!
Take this with the intention it appears to be at face value.
You really are an idiot.
Now perhaps if you might offer a comment other than a sarcastic one liner regarding one of the former coaches this player played for who you seem to never be able to let go of, which is more specific to why you think Fred Gladney won't help it would present you as someone who provides next to nothing but nonsense to the football board. As someone who knows the former player a bit and knows it is unlikely that you do, let me just reiterate a little bit.
You really are an idiot.
Please lighten up. We need success. I will delete this if you can't take sarcasm.
Love the "only kidding" defense.
Quote from: usc4valpo on February 29, 2020, 07:32:59 PM
Please lighten up. We need success. I will delete this if you can't take sarcasm.
Probably time to end the Osteen comments. I know I was the one who teased you about Osteen (sometimes calling him Claude, the MLB pitcher from the 60's and 70's) but it really is old and many posters don't see the humor in it anymore.
Ok, the Carlson era still haunts me and I will check my health insurance to see if psychological visits are covered. I wake up every morning hearing a loud "Shields Up" shout ringing in my ears, thinking the day will get worse like a 72-12 loss to Butler. I am haunted after seeing what happened last season as they start a quarterback that is the second coming of Bobby Douglas. I must get help and get out of this idiot status.
That being said, is Gladney qualified for this role, or is it simply a Valpo connection?
Ok, I will bag the Osteen remarks, although both are as credible as politicians, realtors and used car sales people.
At a minimum Gladney spent 3 years coaching at Wisconsin Lurtheran and 1 at MacMurray.
Thank you Indy for the response.
Valparaiso (FCS – IN): Holmes CC co-offensive coordinator/offensive line coach Brad Bustle has been hired to coach the offensive line, a source tells FootballScoop. Bustle is also formerly the co-offensive coordinator/offensive line coach at Cumberland. -per FootballScoop.com
Offensive line coach from a 4-5 community college record wise... With so many young guys and the position needing so much attention I have to admit, first impression of hire, underwhelmed.
Actually take that back. 4 year letter winner at guard for Louisiana-Lafayette (FBS). Two year grad assistant at Virginia Tech. Might be an up and comer.
Here the official announcement. Interesting hires.
http://valpoathletics.com/football/news/2020-21/19830/fox-announces-additions-to-valpo-football-coaching-staff/
Wasn't sure where to put this but the staff is providing some game tape from last year and giving a bit of color on the play. This one was interesting and I recalled it pretty well as it was being shown.
https://twitter.com/valpoufootball/status/1246157382671097858
Just one problem. It wasn't game changing in the fashion that Coach Robinson mentions as the pick 6 was called back due to a DPI and the ball remained in Morehead State's hands in a game which Valpo lost by 6.
Quote from: JD24 on April 03, 2020, 02:49:35 PM
Wasn't sure where to put this but the staff is providing some game tape from last year and giving a bit of color on the play. This one was interesting and I recalled it pretty well as it was being shown.
https://twitter.com/valpoufootball/status/1246157382671097858
Just one problem. It wasn't game changing in the fashion that Coach Robinson mentions as the pick 6 was called back due to a DPI and the ball remained in Morehead State's hands in a game which Valpo lost by 6.
You can actually see the ref throwing the flag.
I guess Valpo is learning from CNN and MSNBC and FoxNews by providing fake news! I am surprised this got sent out.
TE coach Ed Reny has been named OL coach at Muskingum in Ohio.
2020 captains
#8 Laddie Skarecky SR
#14 Chris Duncan RSSR
#15 Doug Haugh RSJR
#66 Sam Vas SR
Interesting that Duncan is coming back for a fifth year. Good on him! I was critical of him at times during the 2019 season, and I look forward to seeing him turn some of those negative situations/results, into positives, during the 2020 season.
Quote from: valpotx on April 28, 2020, 12:22:25 AM
Interesting that Duncan is coming back for a fifth year. Good on him! I was critical of him at times during the 2019 season, and I look forward to seeing him turn some of those negative situations/results, into positives, during the 2020 season.
I wonder if he even gets the start (probable for sure) but I guess there is a kid transferring in from Western Illinois who is suppose to be pretty good.
I am sure there will be some QB competition and that Duncan will have to earn the spot. He has much to improve on.
Quote from: vu72 on April 28, 2020, 10:12:07 AMQuote from: valpotx on April 28, 2020, 12:22:25 AMInteresting that Duncan is coming back for a fifth year. Good on him! I was critical of him at times during the 2019 season, and I look forward to seeing him turn some of those negative situations/results, into positives, during the 2020 season.
I wonder if he even gets the start (probable for sure) but I guess there is a kid transferring in from Western Illinois who is suppose to be pretty good.
He's a kid who left the WI program to go back to prep school and likely hasn't done much more than practice a bit since his senior year in HS. He's essentially an incoming freshman competing with a 5th year senior. If he is that talented, it would make me wonder what WI was thinking. He's certainly got some work to do.
Beck probably won't start a game this year. If the season happens, Nimz could push Duncan but is one dimensional. I think the offense if more geared for ground and pound this year. Haugh and Riley are bigger backs. Duncan can move. Just need an offensive line. Which in no way can be worse than last year. (Not players fault, injuries, attrition, new coach, had several unplanned starters)
My question is how many new faces will there be. With transfers in and out and recruits I think there could be a 60% roster turnover. One thing that may be in Valpo's favor is lack of spring ball. That is where your returning depth improves the most.