Here's our first realistic opportunity for a win. U of C won Saturday over winless West Virginia Wesleyan.
NCAA DII - Mountain East Conference
RECORD - 2-1
Valpo is their only OOC game
Only loss so far is to Urbana University (OH) 20-28. Out-gained by UU 247-396
Last Game: beat West Virginia Wesleyan
WVWC UofC
SCORE - 29 34
YARDS - 283 487
PASS - 251 448
RUSH - 32 45
1st DNs - 17 19
Are we getting smarter /strategic about scheduling a team on HC that we can beat up on?....hopefully
We are now predicted to lose this game via Massey. Only win projected is Morehead St.
Charleston gave undefeated Urbana a run for their money. They average 56.3 yards per game on the ground and 369 in the air! They already have 10 passing touchdowns. They start a fifth year senior at QB who is having great success in the air even with their subpar run game.They are about 6'2 290 across the board on oline, all of which are upperclassmen. They have seniors and redshirt juniors littered through their other skill positions.
Their Dline are all upperclassmen, one 220 lb end the rest range from 280-320. Have accounted for 5.5 sacks, Only one interception on defense so far.
Moral of the story we are playing yet another scholarship school on pace for a winning season. Our offense has been abysmal so far this season and we gave up i believe 3 true defensive scores to Truman.
I don't believe we are in position to win this week nor have the more experienced talent. I am going to say Charleston 24 Valparaiso University 10. Once again I am hoping we are wrong, however I am hearing that their may be a shift from Chris Duncan at QB as soon as this week.
I think the intent was an easy win over a ham and eager team, but not today. I think Valpo will win but I have also been optimistic in my predictions the past 2 games.
Also if Dcannon is a relative to Duncan claiming he's just going to enter the transfer portal. There is absolutely 0, I mean 0, reason he should take a single snap at Valpo.
Only if Chris tells the staff he is transferring. But, despite previous statements by Chris' supporter, does anyone think that statement will ever be made before the season is over? Maybe if he loses his slot and doesn't see any PT, then that might happen.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 22, 2019, 06:45:56 PM
I think the intent was an easy win over a ham and eager team, but not today. I think Valpo will win but I have also been optimistic in my predictions the past 2 games.
Didn't someone drop football causing us to scramble for this game? Malone, perhaps
It was Malone.
University of Charleston 24
Valpo. 20
I think that is very favorable to VU and I take no joy in that prediction at all. But when realistically predicting you have to take the emotion out of it and think like an outside prognosticater.
Just for clarity, this is the University of Charleston in West Virginia. College of Charleston, to my knowledge, does not have football.
the New OC needs to have Duncan run more like RPOs just a thought! Does any of you insiders know why Kyle Cartales did not play Saturday.
he did play Saturday and was pretty much stuffed at the line of scrimage.
thanks.. they got to get Kyle on the outside like a quick pass he is not a grinding RB.
Been lurking for a bit. Attended the home game vs. CCSU, watched a practice or two near the end of fall camp, and been trying to watch the games online. "Empty nesters" tend to have some time on their hands...
Some thoughts, but where to start?
The challenges in adapting to a complete change in offensive and defensive systems AFTER Spring Break cannot be understated.
The challenges associated adapting to an entirely new coaching staff AFTER Spring Break cannot be understated.
The challenges presented by previous staff announcing departure ON NATIONAL SIGNING DAY cannot be understated.
These are not excuses, but rather explanations. Non-scholarship football is particularly vulnerable to these types of changes, especially at a place like Valpo where the football program already faces challenges that have been well-documented in other posts.
Some specifics as I see it...
1) OL is pretty light and young (in terms of career starts). This, of course, effects both our ability to protect the QB and run the ball effectively. Loss of two 5th year seniors starters (at RG & RT) was devastating, especially considering that 3 of the OL brought in for fall 2018 were UNDER 230 lbs. and that 50% of that incoming group of OL is no longer in program. What remains of that group and the 5 Fr OL that came in for this fall just aren't ready yet. Jarnigan and Vas are very good, Lundberg seems to hold his own, but is light for his frame.
2) Offense is clearly designed for a healthy, effective Seawald, and he's just not the same as he was in 2017. Seems objectively obvious that Duncan is not ready. While there are issues with WRs creating separation/finding windows and with protection, Duncan misses entirely too many throws when there is a man open and he is not under pressure. Most important quality in a QB is leadership and presence. Decision making and accuracy are next. Seawald is the answer, even if the throws he can make are limited. He'll limit turnovers and do a better job of running the entire offense. Is it me, or do the other players seem to respond better to the guy they elected captain?
3) RB is deepest, most experienced, and most talented group of our offense skill positions. I'd like to see OC find a way to get 2 backs in the game more often, use them creatively, etc.
4) Defense is struggling with complete change in structure and philosophy. Kids who were recruited as LBs and have never played a snap on the LOS find themselves playing DE. LBs playing S, etc. They will get better and staff will be able to recruit the kids they need in the right spots going forward. DL group will also get bigger.
5) Hoping the players are hanging in together, that they are willing to fight to right the ship. The backward slide can be very tough thing to overcome. Anyone have a feel for the pulse of the team right now?
As for the future...
Will be interesting to the progress new S & C guy can make with an ENTIRE off-season. Is access to a Training Table a possibility? Man would that help.
Will be interesting to see how well the new staff can recruit in their first full cycle.
Another poster mentioned offensive scheme, using rise of Davidson as an example. I'd have to agree. Davidson's "triple gun option" has created a unique challenge to opposing teams. The flexbone is similar, Citadel's win over GaTech a week ago and the continued success of the service academies in spite of being undersized and arguably under supported relative to the rest of the teams in their conference, are good examples. I suppose you could go the other way and go Air Raid (Leach, Wash St., etc.)
When you try to do the same things as other teams with less talent, it's a tough road. Moving to something like this takes some serious buy-in, but would be an interesting way for the Crusaders to go.
Hopeful for a Homecoming win this week. Would be good for the entire Valpo community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STAjaae-O5w&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3vGzuc7LXhWKgwB0VIve_8vyTKBGC8NYhmAMotuBMkjA2x8CotINVrz2w
Here's our guy.
https://twitter.com/CFBHome/status/1176211986381758464
The Tulane game must have tipped the iceberg. I am happy college athletes are getting some freedom and stuff as they make big dollars to the school, but is it getting out of hand.
Quote from: vu84v2 on September 23, 2019, 08:28:02 AM
Just for clarity, this is the University of Charleston in West Virginia. College of Charleston, to my knowledge, does not have football.
My mistake. University of Charleston. I will correct it.
I think that's where the Chiefs play. I hope the Hanson brothers are not starting at linebacker,
Quote from: NWIGuy on September 23, 2019, 01:05:12 PMBeen lurking for a bit. Attended the home game vs. CCSU, watched a practice or two near the end of fall camp, and been trying to watch the games online. "Empty nesters" tend to have some time on their hands... Some thoughts, but where to start? The challenges in adapting to a complete change in offensive and defensive systems AFTER Spring Break cannot be understated. The challenges associated adapting to an entirely new coaching staff AFTER Spring Break cannot be understated. The challenges presented by previous staff announcing departure ON NATIONAL SIGNING DAY cannot be understated. These are not excuses, but rather explanations. Non-scholarship football is particularly vulnerable to these types of changes, especially at a place like Valpo where the football program already faces challenges that have been well-documented in other posts. Some specifics as I see it... 1) OL is pretty light and young (in terms of career starts). This, of course, effects both our ability to protect the QB and run the ball effectively. Loss of two 5th year seniors starters (at RG & RT) was devastating, especially considering that 3 of the OL brought in for fall 2018 were UNDER 230 lbs. and that 50% of that incoming group of OL is no longer in program. What remains of that group and the 5 Fr OL that came in for this fall just aren't ready yet. Jarnigan and Vas are very good, Lundberg seems to hold his own, but is light for his frame. 2) Offense is clearly designed for a healthy, effective Seawald, and he's just not the same as he was in 2017. Seems objectively obvious that Duncan is not ready. While there are issues with WRs creating separation/finding windows and with protection, Duncan misses entirely too many throws when there is a man open and he is not under pressure. Most important quality in a QB is leadership and presence. Decision making and accuracy are next. Seawald is the answer, even if the throws he can make are limited. He'll limit turnovers and do a better job of running the entire offense. Is it me, or do the other players seem to respond better to the guy they elected captain? 3) RB is deepest, most experienced, and most talented group of our offense skill positions. I'd like to see OC find a way to get 2 backs in the game more often, use them creatively, etc. 4) Defense is struggling with complete change in structure and philosophy. Kids who were recruited as LBs and have never played a snap on the LOS find themselves playing DE. LBs playing S, etc. They will get better and staff will be able to recruit the kids they need in the right spots going forward. DL group will also get bigger. 5) Hoping the players are hanging in together, that they are willing to fight to right the ship. The backward slide can be very tough thing to overcome. Anyone have a feel for the pulse of the team right now? As for the future... Will be interesting to the progress new S & C guy can make with an ENTIRE off-season. Is access to a Training Table a possibility? Man would that help. Will be interesting to see how well the new staff can recruit in their first full cycle. Another poster mentioned offensive scheme, using rise of Davidson as an example. I'd have to agree. Davidson's "triple gun option" has created a unique challenge to opposing teams. The flexbone is similar, Citadel's win over GaTech a week ago and the continued success of the service academies in spite of being undersized and arguably under supported relative to the rest of the teams in their conference, are good examples. I suppose you could go the other way and go Air Raid (Leach, Wash St., etc.) When you try to do the same things as other teams with less talent, it's a tough road. Moving to something like this takes some serious buy-in, but would be an interesting way for the Crusaders to go. Hopeful for a Homecoming win this week. Would be good for the entire Valpo community.
Spectacular post.
Your comments regarding Seewald are obviously observations which others have seen as well. As to the two backs idea, Valpo's been playing with Boxrucker with or behind the QB and Cartales as a wing which he's run out of a few times but he seems to be used as more of a pass catcher from this position. He's a very good pass catcher but I don't think his best attribute is running what amounts to speed outs. He's best lining up in the backfield and running more north south. However he has not looked as aggressive this year as in the past.
Valpo 20, UoC 17.
Duncan's career TD-INT Ratio: 17-17
Seewald's career TD-INT Ratio: 35-20
Come on coaches be smart and start the right guy this week. Could be most winnable game of the season.
Seewald may be limited in action.
I have heard from within that Seewald is healthy but being managed by staff
Did not practice in spring and fall camps were limited therefore had moved to QB3 due to a lack of experience in system.
Was with first team in practice but not receiving reps. Playing Mullen over Nimz has been quite a bit puzzling.
More Seewald info from the Chicago Trib. Basically parallels Fox's recap with Brandon but adds Jimmy's own health assessment — he feels the best since 2017.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/opinion/ct-ptb-spt-college-football-valparaiso-st-092419-20190923-r75ej5nnwfaf5lm7m5bw3qfycu-story.html
Let switch back to the franchise and win some games!
Heard they are having a coaches luncheon this Friday, anyone going ? Seewald is starting and lets see if the OL holds up for him, he might have to run a little bit lol..
Hoping for a competitive game and great Homecoming weekend
Valpo 23
UChar 20
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Minor quibble here but their has been no formal announcement as to who the starting QB will be. There are people on this board who've had personnel information currently and in the past who keep it to themselves since the coaches appear to want to keep it to themselves. So I'm not sure posting that information because you are aware of it through a non public source and because you're butt hurt about it seems to be something we would want to do. However that is what happens when the concern is more for one specific player over the team.
Fun tidbit looked at our defense and offense yards per game since those are the available stats.
Defense:
2007: 347.7-Adams
2008: 363.4-Adams
2009: 380.6-Adams
2019: 392-Fox
2015: 396.9-Cecchini
2014: 406.4-Cecchini
2017: 419.1-Cecchini
2016- 429.6-Cecchini
2018: 447.1-Cecchini
2013: 506.5-Carlson
2010: 507-Carlson
2011: 515-Carlson
2012: 541.5- Carlson
Offense
2010: 218.8-Carlson
2009: 226.9-Adams
2019: 237-Fox
2015: 270.9-Cecchini
2008: 279-Adams
2016: 300.3-Cecchini
2011: 304.3- Carlson
2018: 332.6-Cecchini
2012: 333.9-Carlson
2013: 353.1-Carlson
2014: 359.4-Cecchini
2007: 382-Adams
2017: 399.8-Cecchini
Lets shoot for over 280 yds/game on offense and keep D where its at. Should lead to a competitive PFL stretch
Based on the last post, I want to say something about consistency but JD24 will give me grief.
Also a look at the programs Pt differential
2017 30.0 28.5 1.5
2014 23.9 28.1 -4.2
2007 22.3 29.2 -6.9
2018 26.4 35.6 -9.2
2016 23.0 33.3 -10.3
2008 18.4 30.5 -12.1
2009 11.0 31.3 -20.3
2013 20.8 44.8 -24.0
2012 18.4 45.1 -26.7
2015 15.9 43.2 -27.3
2011 16.1 45.5 -29.4
2019 9.0 44.3 -35.3
2010 9.1 46.7 -37.6
Finally Reports on who is playing (Name, Class,GP)
DB
#20 Booker SR. 3
#16 Hebda JR. 3
#29 Sherman SO. 3
#31 Scarsella SO. 3
#18 Hebda RSSO. 3
#11 McKeag SO. 2
#5 Leandre RSSR. 1
#26 Salomon RSSR. 1
#9 Leach RSSO. 1
#35 Earles FR. 1
DL
#93 Reed SR. 3
#28 Twigg JR. 3
#92 Gedrys JR. 3
#94 Orlandini JR. 3
#78 Sete SO. 3
#96 Germain RSSO. 3
#45 Purty RSSO. 3
#46 Martins JR. 3
#91 Goebel RSJR. 2
#34 Bishop RSSO. 2
#56 Christian RSFR. 1
#57 O'Connell RSFR. 1
K
#1 Latsonas SR. 3
LB
#49 Turner RSSR. 3
#36 Petrie SR. 3
#47 Messler RSSR. 3
#8 Skarecky JR. 3
#24 Psota RSFR. 3
#10 Peifer SO. 2
#42 Annis FR. 2
LS
#99 Puckett 3
OL
#65 Jarnigan RSSR. 3
#60 Lundberg RSSR. 3
#66 Vas JR. 3
#73 Russell RSFR. 3
#68 Byrd RSFR. 3
#64 Biggs RSJR. 1
#74 Zajac RSJR. 1
#75 O'Doherty RSFR. 1
P
#33 Neisner JR. 3
QB
#14 Duncan RSJR. 3
#4 Mullen RSSR. 2
#9 Seewald RSJR. 1
#5 Nimz RSFR. 1
RB
#44 Cartales SR. 3
#32 Boxrucker SR. 3
#21 Earley RSSR. 3
#15 Haugh RSSO. 3
#25 Allison RSFR. 2
#27 Engle FR. 1
TE
#84 Bittner RSSO. 3
#40 Kluck RSSO. 3
WR
#12 Koehler RSSR. 3
#6 Reese SO. 3
#88 Berkemeier FR. 3
#17 Larose JR. 2
#7 Stablein RSSO. 2
#81 Brewer RSFR. 2
#22 Lopez JR. 2
So far only true freshman to play are Earles, Annis, Engles, and Berkemeier
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 26, 2019, 09:17:51 AM
Also a look at the programs Pt differential
2017 30.0 28.5 1.5
2014 23.9 28.1 -4.2
2007 22.3 29.2 -6.9
2018 26.4 35.6 -9.2
2016 23.0 33.3 -10.3
2008 18.4 30.5 -12.1
2009 11.0 31.3 -20.3
2013 20.8 44.8 -24.0
2012 18.4 45.1 -26.7
2015 15.9 43.2 -27.3
2011 16.1 45.5 -29.4
2019 9.0 44.3 -35.3
2010 9.1 46.7 -37.6
I won't call this bogus, but it's close. Comparing the first three games against a whole season is a little premature don't you think? In 2015, for example, not counting the College of Faith joke, during the first three real games, we were out scored 146 to 19 while the whole season shows a -27.3. Let's see how this plays out.
Whatever happened to College of Faith?
Well they're were given a new coach who was there because community service.
They went on to win the Little league hockey tournament for Minnesota, then the USA , then high school.
Charlie Conway led the team in points all three seasons and was a mainstay. Transfer Adam Banks went on to play semi pro.
Gordon Bombay left the team and stayed with team USA. It was a true underdog story.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 26, 2019, 08:26:41 PMWhatever happened to College of Faith?
I think the previous answer may have been a bit tongue in cheek ;D
It appears Coach Sherwyn Thomas, a con man of the highest degree and one who managed to put one over on not only one member of the PFL but two as Davidson also "played" the College of Faith, took his act to the HS ranks for a season or two and put together a HS "program" under the auspices of the NCSAA which is the member affiliate for a lot of Christian based schools nationwide. That apparently worked out just as well as his foray into the college ranks as the "school" is no longer open.
Yes con artist did as following
Made a fake online college: Collecting tuition money
Made a football team: Collected game money (bought team minimalistic gear and uniforms I played in that game)
Pocketed good chunk of money. NCAA said you're done. Discredited all of their games and they have not been heard from since.
Seewald gets the start with everyone rooting for him.
Well......almost everyone ;)
Same issue going right through the right DE as has happened the last couple of games. Probably need more stout DE's in this defense over giving up 60-80 lbs. This along with no one to fill LBer or Safety.
....and let's tackle a bit better. TD catch one was missed at about the 2 yard gain mark and the guy ends up in the endzone.
Not sure running 2 TE sets helps the team with this personnel in the run game. Particularly if the play is not to the side Kluck is lined up.
No matter who the QB is, the receivers need to start making some plays. I can't recall a tough catch made other than maybe one by Larose in the 2nd game.
First half check in
Offense: Jimmy 3/12 , 1 int but it was deep, put TD pass on money, Cartales is working his rear off, Receivers leave much to be desired, Oline is working just think there front is more athletic
Defense: Turner keeps getting stuck on #3 where there big plays are going. They are much more athletic on the perimeter. We are stopping the run.
251-51 yd differential isn't sustainable unless D gets another 3 turnovers
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 28, 2019, 02:33:11 PM
First half check in
Offense: Jimmy 3/12 , 1 int but it was deep, put TD pass on money, Cartales is working his rear off, Receivers leave much to be desired, Oline is working just think there front is more athletic
We are outsized on both OL and DL
Jimmy not forcing passes where there is nothing open (a good thing)
Echo that the receivers need to find ways to get separation sooner
Defense: Turner keeps getting stuck on #3 where there big plays are going. They are much more athletic on the perimeter. We are stopping the run.
Our safeties are playing well (Booker with 2 INTs)
Pass rush is a fraction of a second slow so the UC QB is able to get his passes off.
Some wide open UC receivers underneath and the QB is finding them.
UC has some good speed.
It's apparent that Charleston's skill players are a higher grade than Valpo's nearly to a man. There's probably no WR for Valpo on Charleston's travel team and I think only Cartales is in the backfield.
Jarnigan has been eaten up by the big DT for Charleston.
Part of the no space for receivers is the offensive scheme. I can't say I'm happy with the OC at this point.
Quote from: JD24 on September 28, 2019, 03:14:38 PM
It's apparent that Charleston's skill players are a higher grade than Valpo's nearly to a man. There's probably no WR for Valpo on Charleston's travel team and I think only Cartales is in the backfield.
Jarnigan has been eaten up by the big DT for Charleston.
Part of the no space for receivers is the offensive scheme. I can't say I'm happy with the OC at this point.
NT can't be stopped 1 on 1. Need to help out on him. But don't see that happening.
Welp.
The issue isn't who the QB is. No matter who they have back there, he's not going to succeed with the pass protection and the what appears to be limited ability of the WRs and/or the OC to scheme them open. One thing Cecchini could do was get WRs open. Even in the years the offense was down, there'd be receivers open but the QB at the time wasn't particularly accurate.
Your man was in Seewald no win. Just a note I'm Not related to Duncan just think he's a better talent all around. I do have a nephew on the team so I go to some games. I was not at homecoming but saw stats. That's all I'm saying. Not worth anymore comments.
Ok one more comment JD24 your absolutely correct!
What a fricking mess
Few thoughts.
1) that UC team barely lost to Urbana so I knew that they were most likely better than our team. They had older faster more experienced players on the perimeter and we're much better on the defensive LOS
2) we completely changed our offense from the motion whatever that was to a gun look, did not matter we just don't have the talent on the majority of the oline, receiver, and QB. I'm sorry but that was not a healthy Jimmy (no zip on ball, sailed a lot balls).
3) i wouldn't say limbach is on the hotseat but running Outside Zone on 3+long more than once in a close game was a for sure head scratcher.
4) Fox's D gave up a lot of yards but created necessary turnovers to stay close. I hate to say it but if Charleston is not sloppy with the ball this is a 4-5 score game.
5) lots of work we now enter a San Diego, Dayton, Drake stretch , 0-7 looks realistic.
Finally, why did we allow Kamara and Roberts to stand on the sideline. Both of those players quit the football team within the last 9 months. (Don't give me Roberts was a 5th year senior, he pledged to stay and the coaches didn't recruit a player for that roster spot). Both of those players sure as hell would have helped today.
I listened to the 4rth quarter on audio and listening to the fans on the background was actually entertaining. I thought that one dude was going to lose it.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 28, 2019, 04:47:10 PMI listened to the 4rth quarter on audio and listening to the fans on the background was actually entertaining. I thought that one dude was going to lose it.
Do tell.
Lots of screaming, some non theological expressions, some armchair qb-big, a lot of frustration over the offense
Quote from: JD24 on September 28, 2019, 04:10:15 PM
Welp.
The issue isn't who the QB is. No matter who they have back there, he's not going to succeed with the pass protection and the what appears to be limited ability of the WRs and/or the OC to scheme them open. One thing Cecchini could do was get WRs open. Even in the years the offense was down, there'd be receivers open but the QB at the time wasn't particularly accurate.
Yep. But his defenses were not good at keeping us in games. Fox's defense, though, seems like it can play some opportunistic football and hold the score down against certain teams. But we've got zero offensive capability right now. Gotta have both O and D or else either a super O (like Davidson last year) or a super D (like UC today). And even then, as Davidson showed, you can still loose after putting up 45 points
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 28, 2019, 05:40:34 PMQuote from: JD24 on September 28, 2019, 04:10:15 PMWelp. The issue isn't who the QB is. No matter who they have back there, he's not going to succeed with the pass protection and the what appears to be limited ability of the WRs and/or the OC to scheme them open. One thing Cecchini could do was get WRs open. Even in the years the offense was down, there'd be receivers open but the QB at the time wasn't particularly accurate.
Yep. But his defenses were not good at keeping us in games. Fox's defense, though, seems like it can play some opportunistic football and hold the score down against certain teams. But we've got zero offensive capability right now. Gotta have both O and D or else either a super O (like Davidson last year) or a super D (like UC today). And even then, as Davidson showed, you can still loose after putting up 45 points
I get you completely. I was just mentioning that I don't think the staff is doing what appears to be a middling WR unit any favors in play design. The previous staff had better players but also knew had to get them open.
I may watch again a bit to see if they ever did do anything to get in the way of the DT who was in the backfield all game. As you mentioned, I don't think they did.
JD24 - no one can deny your dedication if you are going to review this game. Fox needs players and the offense is offensive.
NWI GUY, who are the two fifth year senior O line men that they lost this year? I didn't know there were any fifth year seniors on the line last year. There are two this year, though.
I may be wrong but I took the reference as being to Kamara and Roberts.
I'm closing my book on this game with only some positives that come to mind.
:) Remarkable that our D was ble to hold U of C to just one TD. Yeah, we gave up some big gainers, but when the chips were down our kids made some big plays to force FGs.
:) Booker is the real thing. Turner played his heart our.
:) The Latsonas who was a second team all PFL last season has reappeared
:) Good to see a crowd of 4,399 in attendance
Quote from: Deets on September 28, 2019, 10:35:48 PMNWI GUY, who are the two fifth year senior O line men that they lost this year? I didn't know there were any fifth year seniors on the line last year. There are two this year, though.
Yes. Those are the two I was referring to. I may read the rosters wrong I suppose. Thought they were on track to return in for a final year in 2019 and they seemed to disappear. I assumed that they decided not to come back.
Gotcha.
Did they graduate and decide not to play their extra year of eligibility? If that is the case, then they are football alums and I could see them supporting the team on the sidelines.
T-rob was a 5th year, Kamara was class of 2016 and quit, he would be a senior.
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 30, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
T-rob was a 5th year, Kamara was class of 2016 and quit, he would be a senior.
Just some added information from the
2018 ROSTER:
#72 Solomon Kamara - OL
RS-SO, 6-2, 285
#77 Terrance Roberts - OL
RS-JR, 6-5, 315
Terrance played a lot last season and both could have added some bulk up front this year.
They were literally the starting RG/RT through beginning of spring practice...
Hard to believe offense wouldn't look a bit better with Martin, Roberts, Kamara, Gessinger, Maceo in there.
I will say it does look like this staff is doing more team oriented events. Hopefully kids stay on campus and the attrition goes down.
Quote from: valpofb16 on October 01, 2019, 12:56:57 PM
They were literally the starting RG/RT through beginning of spring practice...
Hard to believe offense wouldn't look a bit better with Martin, Roberts, Kamara, Gessinger, Maceo in there.
I will say it does look like this staff is doing more team oriented events. Hopefully kids stay on campus and the attrition goes down.
Any idea why the exodus of eligible quality players, 16?
I've hear loss of love for the game as primarily the number one reason. (more than just these kids)
Seniors this year would have been a combined (2016-2019) 12-21 heading into this season record wise.
Add in a staff that didn't recruit them, cold weather of fall practices, and daily grind of a football season. I'm sure it all took a toll.
Wish nothing but best for those guys mentioned. Just thought it was odd to have several players with current eligibility standing next to alumni at the game.