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Title: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: VULB#62 on November 10, 2019, 12:10:55 PM
Two more to go. This one has gotta be a win. Good D,  no long gainers. Some forced TOs. Good O. Ball control. No turnovers.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 10, 2019, 06:18:21 PM
Butler is brutal this year. If Valpo plays even 3/4 to their capabilities, this game should be a win.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 11, 2019, 10:46:20 AM
So is there any rivalry in the Butler-Valpo matchup? Any traditions? Pranks between schools? Any interest?
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: FWalum on November 11, 2019, 02:41:25 PM
Anyone going to this game?  Really liked it a few years ago when we had a Valpo tailgate at the Butler Bowl.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: bbtds on November 11, 2019, 07:29:08 PM
Quote from: FWalum on November 11, 2019, 02:41:25 PM
Anyone going to this game?  Really liked it a few years ago when we had a Valpo tailgate at the Butler Bowl.

FYI, the Butler Bowl is now called the Sellick Bowl.

Although I would like to be there I will be on the road in Ohio that weekend.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_and_Jackie_Sellick_Bowl

In 2017, after having been known as the Butler Bowl since its completion, the stadium was renamed the Bud and Jackie Sellick Bowl.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpofb16 on November 13, 2019, 10:12:03 AM
I will be tailgating at the Butler Bowl

Looks like Cam Kelly is back in graces with coaches and listed on the 2 deep. No Scarsella this week. This would be a great win for the program, 3/4 against Butler matters with the current state of Valpo football. Win Butler and Marist the season tone changes.

Conference PA vs. PG

PA: 31.83
PG: 17.2

Fox is getting closer these last few weeks. Lets hope he pulls the next two out and gets a start on recruiting. OLine should be the #1 priority for very evident reasons
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 14, 2019, 10:27:38 PM
Both teams are a combined 3-17 record. This certainly must be a low for the Hoosier Helmet classic.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpofb16 on November 15, 2019, 05:55:30 AM
72-12 was the low
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 15, 2019, 04:50:05 PM
but there was hope as Osteen was canned afterwards.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 16, 2019, 09:19:23 AM
I am watching College Gameday, and wondering why it is not in Indianapolis.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: FWalum on November 16, 2019, 11:16:30 AM
Trying to find stream of this game on YouTube. Not having any luck. Is there a link somewhere?

Found it but not started yet, 25 minutes into the game.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: bbtds on November 16, 2019, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: FWalum on November 16, 2019, 11:16:30 AM
Trying to find stream of this game on YouTube. Not having any luck. Is there a link somewhere?

https://www.facebook.com/pg/ButlerBulldogs/videos/?ref=page_internal

A classic battle of Hoosier HELL-MET frustration.

Will any team score in regulation?


EDIT: End of 1st quarter--no score
How will the Bulldogs fail on this drive?

2nd EDIT: Valpo scores first (and only?) touchdown. AND converts the extra point HOORAY!!!!
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: vu72 on November 16, 2019, 11:50:58 AM
7-0 Valpo!
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpo64 on November 16, 2019, 12:43:31 PM
whats the deal with the video?
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpo64 on November 16, 2019, 12:49:23 PM
Isn't this game on ESPN 3 or ESPN +?  Or is this just another time Butler screws everyone else especially when they have a lousy team?
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: FWalum on November 16, 2019, 01:16:35 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 16, 2019, 11:19:05 AM
https://www.facebook.com/pg/ButlerBulldogs/videos/?ref=page_internal

A classic battle of Hoosier HELL-MET frustration.

Will any team score in regulation
Have to thank bbtds for the Facebook live link in the quote above.

Crazy the this is not on a more accessible stream. I am watching on a Fire Stick and the Facebook Watch app.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpotx on November 16, 2019, 01:51:34 PM
To say that there were some questionable calls in the 4th quarter, is a massive understatement. 
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: vu72 on November 16, 2019, 01:54:47 PM
We make a great comeback and the $hit the bed.  Extremely disappointing and a proper ending to a miserable season even though we have one more game. Ugh.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: dcannon12 on November 16, 2019, 02:11:44 PM
Fox is not head coach material yet. Duncan had awesome game without him Valpo football would be a catastrophe.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpotx on November 16, 2019, 02:17:28 PM
He had a good game, yes, but he also threw a key interception where he didn't notice that defender camped out in his passing lane.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 16, 2019, 02:22:15 PM
TD - I totally agree with the officiating, and the Pioneer conference needs to pay above minimum wage and get better refs. That being said, Valpo should have never been in the situation to lose as those turnovers were the difference.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: dcannon12 on November 16, 2019, 02:30:03 PM
Valpotx one interception is not worth mentioning unless you call out all the other turnovers. That was not a game changer. You are another blogger who knows nothing about football your an armchair guy!
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpotx on November 16, 2019, 02:34:33 PM
Well, I played D-1 baseball in college, what did you do?

It was a game changer, as it directly led to the go-ahead TD for Butler.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: dcannon12 on November 16, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
Wad not a starter but played for Bo Schebechler. Do you know who he is?
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 16, 2019, 03:06:48 PM
I will call out the turnovers, and Duncan threw a bad pass critical in the outcome.

Fox is learning and I think he will get there. He is more raw than Cecchini and he will get better.

One thing I know about Valpo football, by the time you think you have seen all the obscure, but haven't. What a way to lose!
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpotx on November 16, 2019, 03:20:37 PM
Quote from: dcannon12 on November 16, 2019, 02:59:05 PM
Wad not a starter but played for Bo Schebechler. Do you know who he is?

Ok, so you were either at Miami (OH) or Michigan.  Congrats.  Did Bo teach you to overreact whenever someone doesn't effuse praise upon what is obviously a relative to you, and then assume that everyone on a Fans Forum is not an athlete?
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: dcannon12 on November 16, 2019, 03:32:10 PM
Ok D1 baseball guy. Bo would  not get into that nonsense nor will I.  Not a relative of Duncan stated many times my nephew plays on Valpo and well I just know Duncan is the best player on the team. Go Blue not Miami. But most on the blog really do not the in depth knowledge of football.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 16, 2019, 03:59:20 PM
The only thing Bo Schembelcher was good at was losing the Rose Bowl to USC!  One of the most overrated coaches in college football.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: JD24 on November 16, 2019, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: valpotx on November 16, 2019, 02:34:33 PMWell, I played D-1 baseball in college, what did you do? 
Fathered the player.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: JD24 on November 16, 2019, 04:56:39 PM
Can't have those penalties at the end and expect to win a tight game. Odd playcalling with only 4 or 5 rushes by the backs. Duncan had a very good game. The comment regarding Fox "not being ready" or whatever is just inane and hopefully just made from the emotion of the loss. Same with the pick not being a game changer since it gave the ball to Butler at the Valpo 23.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: vu72 on November 16, 2019, 06:10:08 PM
Quote from: dcannon12 on November 16, 2019, 02:30:03 PM
Valpotx one interception is not worth mentioning unless you call out all the other turnovers. That was not a game changer. You are another blogger who knows nothing about football your an armchair guy!

WTF!  What is with the cheap shot?  If you are going to post on the Valpo board maybe you need to a little more relaxed.  Totally uncalled for.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: VULB#62 on November 16, 2019, 08:37:34 PM
HEY,  Cut it out !   This is an emotional 12 hours. Stop. Breathe. Then add thoughtful and constructive comments and please refrain from driving this into a personal pissing contest.

To give up a field-long drive with only 19 seconds on the clock only to see a FG win the game with 0.00 on the clock is cataclysmic, but it is what it is.  Step back. And then let's look at why we didn't go to OT.

When we scored with only 19 seconds on the clock, I was certain we'd go to OT. I was only on GameTracker and had to go back to work. Later, I saw that Butler hit a FG but I assumed it was in OT. And I figured we had a chance to equalize or win.  You can imagine  my surprise when the score was listed as FINAL. 

Then I looked a the drive chart. We blew it ——— Offside on the first FG attempt. Before that a 15 Yard Pf to allow them within range. Let's look at those situations. And then let's regroup and find a way to beat freakin Marist.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: VULB#62 on November 16, 2019, 08:47:22 PM
Oh.......... and mark my words, Crusaders. This lost will be the focus of every game we play from now on for the next two+ years. The adversity here will fuel the staff, the players, and future wins. It will be the chip on our shoulder that will drive us.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 16, 2019, 09:15:28 PM
Sorry 62. I wasn't ripping anyone but Bo Schembechler who has always been an antagonist to USC and the Conference of Champions.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: football1960 on November 16, 2019, 09:46:49 PM
By Far Duncan made some plays with his legs scrambling and designed runs totaling  102 yrds rushing , if he did not do that we would have not been in this game.  the Dam defense  again had to stop Butler with 19 sec left in the game to go into over time and once again  was flagged x2  WTH  it  killed us, that is on FOX !! 
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: usc4valpo on November 16, 2019, 10:26:36 PM
The turnovers killed us for 14 points.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: JD24 on November 16, 2019, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: football1960 on November 16, 2019, 09:46:49 PMBy Far Duncan made some plays with his legs scrambling and designed runs totaling  102 yrds rushing , if he did not do that we would have not been in this game.  the Dam defense  again had to stop Butler with 19 sec left in the game to go into over time and once again  was flagged x2  WTH  it  killed us, that is on FOX !!
Who do you think you're fooling?
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: JD24 on November 16, 2019, 11:21:35 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on November 16, 2019, 10:26:36 PMThe turnovers killed us for 14 points.
Seems to have been an issue at times during the year which needs to be cleaned up. 
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: bbtds on November 17, 2019, 06:31:16 AM
Quote from: football1960 on November 16, 2019, 09:46:49 PM
By Far Duncan made some plays with his legs scrambling and designed runs totaling  102 yrds rushing , if he did not do that we would have not been in this game.  the Dam defense  again had to stop Butler with 19 sec left in the game to go into over time and once again  was flagged x2  WTH  it  killed us, that is on FOX !! 

dam=a barrier constructed to hold back water and raise its level, forming a reservoir used to generate electricity or as a water supply.

damn=be condemned by God to suffer eternal punishment in hell.
Title: Re: GAME#11: Valpo @Butler for the Hoosier Helmet - 11/16, 11am CST
Post by: valpofb16 on November 17, 2019, 06:54:53 AM
Went to the game a few things are evident.

Our DBs outside of Booker are an issue.
Duncan holds onto ball far too long.
Our oline is non existent in run game (just need to get to end of season here have lost Zajac, Lundberg, Russell from an already small unit)


That being said. Fox has had this team in position to win the past 5 weeks. He has a small roster of 90 and 35 or so are freshman. Those comparing his first year to Cecchini need to remember he had 90 on roster and only 17 were freshman.


The record might not show It, but this team is improved from last season. Let's get a full cycle of recruiting /off-season and see what we have