Curious as to how actively Bryce is seeking new coaching opportunities, and what kinds of programs might have an interest in him as we approach March Madness?
Idk the details of his contract. Depending on its wording, there are big differences that would directly impact his choice, financially.
For instance, if Vandy has to keep paying him if he does not serve as a head coach for X years, he can weigh that accordingly.
This year, he's doing what many other major coaches do when they're terminated early - in his case, take Vandys money and commentate.
Smart move. I have a hard time believing he'd take just any job especially if he can keep collecting Vandy money if he does not serve as a head coach. That's typically in the contract. I say that because I do believe him when he said he wasn't going to leave Valpo for just any school.
It's about the right fit but also the community for Bryce and his family. Nashville is one of the best places to raise a family - per multiple annual reports.
He'll be selective. With that said, the 0-16 in conference is not a gem on his resume. But, it does help that Vandys AD was fired. Looks better for him.
The question then becomes what will be available - to your point - as coaches' got seats get hotter.
From the list below, Georgia Tech? Since they were already interested the last time around .... ? Maybe Boston College if he's willing to go East Coast?
YOUR CHAIR IS ON FIRE, SIR
Coaches at the end of the line at their current school. You should be seeing them here soon enough.
Jim Christian (Boston College)
Christian's Eagles sported an ugly 29-67 (6-48 ACC) record through his first three years and after seemingly turning things around in 2018 – 19 wins and a NIT – things regressed last season to three games below .500. At this point, the only thing that should save Christian's job is a spot in the NCAA Tournament (BC hasn't danced since 2009) and that doesn't seem to be in the card. The Eagles lost to 3 mid-majors in the non-conference and are in the middle of the ACC standings at 6-8. The BC job will be pretty enticing for up-and-coming coaches this coming offseason if AD Martin Jarmond decides to make a change.
Mike Dunlap (Loyola Marymount)
Dunlap has been at LMU since 2014 after four straight .500 or below seasons, he won 22 games and led the Lions to the CBI Semifinals last year. However, his program is again sitting at the bottom of the WCC. The Lions are 8-17 and have won just 2 of 10 conference games. Dunlap was 70-87 overall coming into this season, but with all three of the Lions' top scorers leaving after last season there were serious holes to fill. The contract extension LMU signed Dunlap to back in 2017 has him locked in through next season, but the terms of a potential buyout are not available.
Dave Leitao (DePaul)
Leitao led the Blue Demons to their most recent NCAA bid (2004), then bounced for the Virginia gig a year later. The school brought him back in 2015 but things have not been the same this time around. The squad did turn a small corner last year by finishing as CBI Runner-up (19-17 overall) and their 9-0 start this year was one of the biggest surprises in the country, but they have now lost eight of their last nine (lone win was over #5 Butler) and are 1-10 in Big East play. Despite what the eye-test may say, DePaul is a high-major program and fans rightfully want more. Oh, the program is also on NCAA probation, with Leitao earning a three-game suspension for failing to "promote an atmosphere of compliance."
Jeff Neubauer (Fordham)
Fordham keeping Neubauer was one of the biggest surprises of the past offseason, as AD David Roach continues to hold out hope that his basketball coach will turn things around. Neubauer started off with 17 wins and a trip to the 2016 CBI, but in the three years since then the Rams have gone right back to the A-10 basement. After back-to-back last-place finishes and two assistant coach defections, Neubauer added two former head coaches (Anthony Evans and Dennis Felton) to his staff for year five. It is worth noting that his predecessor, Tom Pecora, finished in last place four straight years and then third to last in his fifth before he was fired.
Josh Pastner (Georgia Tech)
This seems inevitable, as Pastner's tenure at Tech has been a mess both on and off the court. The Jackets have finished below .500 in each of the last two seasons and Pastner is dealing with sanctions (scholarship reductions, postseason ban and recruiting limitations) from NCAA violations committed by one of his former assistants. While Pastner was not directly charged with anything, it seems like Tech can still fire him with cause and avoid having to pay some/all of his hefty buyout. We see schools turn a blind eye to these things all of the time, but AD Todd Stansbury didn't hire Pastner and the lack of on-court success doesn't bode well. Update: Tech is 12-13 (6-8 ACC) but they did recently upset #5 Louisville in Atlanta.
I think he wants a faith based school and would take the De Paul job. He was interested last time they had an opening and they went back to Dave. I also think Porter Moser would take the De Paul job.
No decent head coach should take the DePaul job until their athletic director is gone.
Fordham and LMU (Despite its spectacular location/campus) are absolutely no's. BC is interesting, but in the ACC that job is really difficult now and there are better jobs that will be open soon and warmer locations, see GaTech.
GaTech and DePaul are interesting options.
Two schools not mentioned that have tough decisions to make and could be open are Northwestern and Wake Forest. A recent Chicago Tribune article had Chris Collins nearing the end of his safety net for finally getting NW into a tourney. Bryce is perfect for that job and would ramp up the competition for recruits with us.
Danny Manning has used up all his good will at Wake, and the alumni base wants a change. Shaka Smart's name has been mentioned, but they blew it by not hiring Scott Drew when they hired Bzdelik, who singlehandedly ruined what Skip and Dino had rebuilt. If Brad Brownell can have success at Clemson, Bryce would be a great fit at Wake. They need a system program with the ability to recruit 3-4 year players. John Collins' explosion set that program back, but Manning has proven he is not a good coach.
Finally, will Indiana open back up? Archie is not winning friends, particularly after that Purdue game. Patience has worn out. An Indiana basketball legend could have an opportunity to rebuild that program where outsiders have failed.
Not sure a P5 program takes a chance on him yet after Vandy. Ironically, an MVC type program would be a good landing spot. Maybe A-10.
Quote from: valpo84 on February 17, 2020, 12:45:36 PMTwo schools not mentioned that have tough decisions to make and could be open are Northwestern and Wake Forest. A recent Chicago Tribune article had Chris Collins nearing the end of his safety net for finally getting NW into a tourney. Bryce is perfect for that job and would ramp up the competition for recruits with us.
Danny Manning has used up all his good will at Wake, and the alumni base wants a change. Shaka Smart's name has been mentioned, but they blew it by not hiring Scott Drew when they hired Bzdelik, who singlehandedly ruined what Skip and Dino had rebuilt. If Brad Brownell can have success at Clemson, Bryce would be a great fit at Wake. They need a system program with the ability to recruit 3-4 year players. John Collins' explosion set that program back, but Manning has proven he is not a good coach.
The Wake job is interesting. I know that Homer and Skip Prosser were friends and with Wake being a Baptist school I could see this having a strong appeal to Bryce and would be one of those "special" schools where overt displays and demonstrations of faith would be acceptable (at least they were 12 years ago when my daughter was there).
Great point with Wake Forest.
One thing to consider though is that he was as hot of a commodity as anyone in the country coming out of that NIT run with Valpo.
Soo he could be more selective in determining what constitutes as a "special" place.
He *may* not have that same level of selectivity right now depending on how the Vandy stuff is viewed.
What will be even more interesting to me, though, is who he takes with him.
Powell - Zags. Diebler - Ohio State ... etc.
Does he poach these guys from their current institutions? Or does he put together a largely new staff?
I'd love to see Matt go with him. Depending on his contract and where he'd go, Matt could end up making a good salary still and could learn more before getting another HC opportunity.
First person he may take to his new school is Casey (and with him his two basketball playing sons). There's lots of other VU folks to tap, too, without Roger or Jake (both of which are lined up now for HC jobs -- Roger possibly NW if it opens or Jake a MAC school) -- Buggs and Nuness to start. Sparksy, J-Hawk, CA and Vujic are out there and may be he convinces Coach Ensminger to come back to the states with his tall HS age basketball playing children (BTW Valpo, hope we are recruiting those kids). The one thing about Valpo basketball is that many of our players have had high basketball IQs and have become excellent teachers of the game all over the world.
Bryce is on the call for the Summit League final NDSU vs UND on ESPN2 if anyone's interested. NDSU is blowing North Dakota out though.
GCU? I highly doubt it, but he is apparently rumored as a target:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28894516/grand-canyon-fires-dan-majerle-7-seasons-head-coach
His name has been brought up on the DePaul message board. Unbelievable as it sounds, the GCU job may be better.
Quote from: valpotx on March 13, 2020, 06:42:13 AM
GCU? I highly doubt it, but he is apparently rumored as a target:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28894516/grand-canyon-fires-dan-majerle-7-seasons-head-coach
GCU will be signing a high profile coach it would appear. The atmosphere at their games is something to witness.
The WAC is not strong with the exception of NMSU who no one can beat.
Bryce likes private faith based schools. Fans are awesome at GCU, the school has really grown, Phoenix is not a bad city, and they pay well. I think he goes to GCU or Wake Forest or De Paul.
The best job of those 3 is Wake. The ACC is the cream of the basketball conferences, and your odds of tourney are high if you are .500. Plus, prettiest campus, great basketball facilities (new practice facility), Joel Coliseum, lots of money for sports. Tremendous alumni base and he played in Charlotte so familiar with area.
Agree that Wake Forest is the best job - unfortunately Bryce will not be in the running there.
GCU is a fraudulent university, so why would anyone with a good (or even mediocre) reputation go there? As noted below, their fraudulent attempt to become a "private university" was strongly rejected late last year by the U.S. Dept. of Education.
https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2019/11/13/education-department-explains-grand-canyon-decision
There is a lot more regarding the seriously corrupt histories of their CEO and CFO, the latter of whom was fired from University of Phoenix (Apollo) for options fraud and then hired several years later by Grand Canyon.
https://citronresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/LOPE-The-Educational-Enron.pdf
Here are more job openings:
Western Michigan
Western Illinois
Wyoming
Air Force
James Madison
Southeast Missouri
UIC
I feel like Wyoming should take a look at NDSU's coach. He's been able to win in a tough location It might tranlate there too in a higher profile conference.
Wow. Western Illinois! Jump on that ;D :thumbsup:
Not much out there thus far. Those universities would be a step or two backwards. He should wait for some better pickings.
Quote from: usc4valpo on March 13, 2020, 06:50:09 PM
Agree that Wake Forest is the best job - unfortunately Bryce will not be in the running there.
Interesting statement. Do you have some reasoning to back it up or is it just your opinion?
DePaul is a Catholic institution, but would not call it faith based by any stretch of the imagination...
Hot rumor out here has Bryce as the #1 choice for the GCU job. I don't know though with the Western Illinois job available!!
Yuck... Bryce at that school would just feel so so wrong... But at least maybe he can get them to be decent and create a good series for us perhaps...
Quote from: IndyValpo on March 16, 2020, 11:52:15 AM
Hot rumor out here has Bryce as the #1 choice for the GCU job. I don't know though with the Western Illinois job available!!
I just can't picture Bryce coaching there
Bryce should wait to see what jobs open -- BC and Wake will open up here soon.
Wake contenders include: Wes Miller (UNC-G), Shaka Smart (when fired from Texas), Pat Kelsey and Bryce in the early discussions with Wes getting the primary share. I am a big Pat Kelsey fan (coaching roots go back to Xavier and Skip Prosser). He has been very successful at the mid-major level and was an assistant at WF. Wes is also thought highly of in NC. Shaka may be declining in enthusiasm there. The buyout for Manning (and Miller) is steep so we'll see what they do. Wake needs a younger coach who will build the program for the long haul and reestablish it. If successful there, it is like Baylor, no reason to ever leave. There had been some talk of Beilein or Matta but that would be the wrong direction.
There it is...now head coach of Grand Canyon. Good luck out there.
Quote from: M on March 17, 2020, 09:06:37 AM
There it is...now head coach of Grand Canyon. Good luck out there.
Jerry Colangalo the former Phoenix Suns Exec led the search and apparently targeted Drew early on. As someone who lives less than 30 minutes from GCU and goes to games on occasion this is good news.
I honestly find it hard to believe that such a good person would go to this shady and corrupt university.
When you go 0-18 in your conference and get canned, schools like Wake Forest and BC are not going to go after you. I think GCU can be a high-risk high-reward situation for Bryce Drew.
Great fit for Bryce. The school has really really grown big time in the last few years. Beautiful campus, great fans, and they really have a mission to reach out to the community. Bryce will put his stamp on this University. Please do not knock until you have been there and don't knock their education and act like an an elite. Everyone needs an education. Not everyone can afford a $200,000.00 education in the Midwest. Online is affordable for a lot of people that still need to work to pay for college. Out of state people still pay in state and can enjoy beautiful sunny Arizona during the winter. Check out their website. I think the have six pools, a restaurant, hotel and golf course for restaurant and Hospitality majors. Money will not be an issue with Jerry backing the school. Check out the fans at games on You Tube. He will have them in the Tourney soon and be able to recruit kids from Midwest.
I agree USC4Valpo! Not sure if it is high ask though but I can see high reward. He will own the program. Reminds me of Valpo first going D1 with Homer. Read Bryce's quotes.
"We are unbelievably excited to have Bryce Drew lead our basketball program into its next phase of development," GCU President Brian Mueller said. "Bryce built a very successful mid-major program at Valparaiso and proved he can recruit at a high level at Vanderbilt but, most importantly, he embodies the Christian mission of the University in how he lives his life both on and off the court."
I happen to like Grand Canyon University and am amazed by its athletics facilities, as well as student support:
Seems like a weird fit to me. Idk. I hope Bryce does well.
Watched that pre-game video and the mascot has to be the ugliest animal I have ever seen. Makes me want to apply for an out of state antelope license then leave it for the buzzards. ::)
Hope this works out for Bryce but GCU doesn't seem like a place that will handle a recession well...
Quote from: tiny707 on March 17, 2020, 09:49:41 AM
I agree USC4Valpo! Not sure if it is high ask though but I can see high reward. He will own the program. Reminds me of Valpo first going D1 with Homer. Read Bryce's quotes.
What is he risking? Coaches move between schools with more reckless abandon then ever. He is at a level where his pedigree interests recruits and his lack of success in the SEC is yesterdays news. Good luck Bryce.
P.S. They are a fellow D1 sports program, I don't have the animosity towards their academics like some others do.
GCU is kind of unique. I think this is great for Bryce. Phoenix is a great city and the school is growing. Seriously, who really thought Bryce would get an offer from the P5 school after last year - these guys are not exactly forgiving to someone after a conference 0-18 season, despite that it was probably not his fault.
From the November, 2019 statement from the U.S. Dept. of Education regarding Grand Canyon:
"Under the Higher Education Act and the department's regulations, nonprofit institutions of higher education must operate for the benefit of the institution, not any other person or entity. Following its review of the transaction in which Grand Canyon University separated from its former owner, Grand Canyon Education, Inc., the department determined that it could not approve GCU as a nonprofit for purposes of its participation in federal financial aid programs because its operation is benefiting GCE," the department said. "Notably, under an agreement between GCU and GCE, GCE employs many of the key personnel providing management, oversight and strategic direction to GCU, and the president of GCU also serves as the chief executive officer of GCE. The department thus determined that GCU does not meet the criteria to participate in federal financial aid programs as a nonprofit."
Add to this that when they tried to set up their fraudulent non-profit, they were going to put most or all of their debt on Grand Canyon University's books.
Grand Canyon is the Enron of universities, and I do not see why good people would want to risk the stain of being affiliated with such a shady and corrupt enterprise.
GCU averages 7100 in attendance. That's full capacity. They love their basketball there apparently.
Best wishes Bryce.
GCU is highly Christian-based. and their basketball game experience is the envy of everyone west of tobacco road. I just want to play them in the ARC
So fraudulent leadership is fine, as long as you fill seats and have a good game experience? And there are examples of "Christian-based" organizations who committed rampant fraud (MCI Worldcom), so the two are not always unrelated.
One other thing about Grand Canyon...they better somehow hope that the WAC will continue to exist (UMKC is leaving, Chicago State is on life support), because I strongly doubt any other conference will take them. In fact, one could argue that they are hiring Bryce Drew to attempt to build some legitimacy (though such legitimacy would still be false).
Quote from: vu84v2 on March 17, 2020, 04:07:40 PMSo fraudulent leadership is fine, as long as you fill seats and have a good game experience? And there are examples of "Christian-based" organizations who committed rampant fraud (MCI Worldcom), so the two are not always unrelated.
If it is a tax fraud question then it should be studied. I do not differentiate between christian fraud and pagan fraud. In my world both should do jail time.
Quote from: vu84v2 on March 17, 2020, 04:07:40 PM
So fraudulent leadership is fine, as long as you fill seats and have a good game experience? And there are examples of "Christian-based" organizations who committed rampant fraud (MCI Worldcom), so the two are not always unrelated.
One other thing about Grand Canyon...they better somehow hope that the WAC will continue to exist (UMKC is leaving, Chicago State is on life support), because I strongly doubt any other conference will take them. In fact, one could argue that they are hiring Bryce Drew to attempt to build some legitimacy (though such legitimacy would still be false).
You are almost as convincing as Just Sayin :'( :'( :'(
I'm living inside your head rent-free.
Didn't we play them last season in Phoenix? Wonder if it was a home and home deal. If so, they should be at the ARC this coming year.
we played them in st.thomas tournament. a one off game. no follow up commitment
Quote from: Just Sayin on March 17, 2020, 06:32:10 PM
I'm living inside your head rent-free.
If you are speaking of vu84v2 that is a distinct possibility, the rest of us not so much. I do think it's a sad situation if that is your end game. That is no kind of life, but that is just one mans' opinion. Have a nice day!
Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on March 18, 2020, 07:38:47 AMQuote from: Just Sayin on March 17, 2020, 06:32:10 PMI'm living inside your head rent-free.
If you are speaking of vu84v2 that is a distinct possibility, the rest of us not so much. I do think it's a sad situation if that is your end game. That is no kind of life, but that is just one mans' opinion. Have a nice day!
Well you are the one who couldn't post to someone else without mentioning Just Sayin. Just Sayin
Impressive.
I read that GCU became non-profit in 2018, and it's students are eligible to participate in federal student aid programs, like any other N-P.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYlpUqqLv4Q
GCU is not a non-profit. In November 2019, the U.S. Dept. of Education rejected their non-profit request because of the shady arrangements between GCE (the remaining for profit side) and GCU (the intended new 'non-profit side). I have posted the Dept. of Education's explanation in other posts. Their students cannot apply for federal student aid programs per that decision.
Quote from: vu84v2 on March 18, 2020, 12:11:04 PM
GCU is not a non-profit. In November 2019, the U.S. Dept. of Education rejected their non-profit request because of the shady arrangements between GCE (the remaining for profit side) and GCU (the intended new 'non-profit side). I have posted the Dept. of Education's explanation in other posts. Their students cannot apply for federal student aid programs per that decision.
They have been approved by the IRS and the State of Arizona as a 501(c)(3) non-profit; thus, they have N-P tax status. The Dept of Education does not consider them N-P, so take your choice.
GCU students are also eligible for federal student aid through FAFSA. I guess I'm wondering what is your point?
Ouch. I didn't realize the teams that are in that conference. He's taken a big step backwards from Valpo. Two games a year vs Chicago State Cougars......
I guess the grass is not always greener. If he stayed and continued to recruit like the players he got at Valpo he'd be the king of the MVC.
Quote from: Chairback on March 18, 2020, 06:16:32 PM
Ouch. I didn't realize the teams that are in that conference. He's taken a big step backwards from Valpo. Two games a year vs Chicago State Cougars......
I guess the grass is not always greener. If he stayed and continued to recruit like the players he got at Valpo he'd be the king of the MVC.
Hold on a minute, he received a six year, $16.3M salary. He would not have that by staying in the MVC.
Are we absolutely certain that Bryce would have taken us to the status of king of the MVC immediately? It's a tough league and a big step and he did pretty well against the MVC when he was here but it's very different to play these teams in November and December than it is to play them in January and February.
Quote from: wh on March 18, 2020, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: vu84v2 on March 18, 2020, 12:11:04 PM
GCU is not a non-profit. In November 2019, the U.S. Dept. of Education rejected their non-profit request because of the shady arrangements between GCE (the remaining for profit side) and GCU (the intended new 'non-profit side). I have posted the Dept. of Education's explanation in other posts. Their students cannot apply for federal student aid programs per that decision.
They have been approved by the IRS and the State of Arizona as a 501(c)(3) non-profit; thus, they have N-P tax status. The Dept of Education does not consider them N-P, so take your choice.
GCU students are also eligible for federal student aid through FAFSA. I guess I'm wondering what is your point?
There are plenty of tax and legal questions surrounding this and similar situations. I get everything that vu84v2 has said and has linked concerning GCU. If a jury were somehow required for such a case I don't think I could be seated because I think my mind is largely made up already. ;) Either way Bryce should walk into and away from GCU with clean hands. That should probably be the only moral query concerning this thread discussion. Someday Bryce might have his judgement questioned but I am unwilling to go there now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-XT1HnjVtw
Seeing him in that purple shirt just doesn't feel right. It doesn't look right on him.
Glad to see him land on his feet, and after thinking about it, this is actually a pretty good situation for him. He can definitely push NMSU for dominance in the WAC, and then find his way to another dream job for him, such as a TCU, Wake Forest, Stanford, Northwestern, etc, which are strong academic/private schools, in a P5 conference.
And then what? Get pushed around by the schools in that P5 league who are actually committed to being good at basketball (Stanford and possibly Wake Forest though they're usually more bad than good excepted)? I mean that's fine if you want to keep cycling like that just to collect checks but eventually that runs out and you either have to settle in as a dominant mid major coach (though failing twice at the P5 level would be bad for recruiting even at the mid major level) or go into broadcasting. Still he'll make millions of dollars doing that and if that's his goal then God bless him. He is a good broadcaster and a very good coach for this level of basketball. If, however, his goal is to actually get his team to a final four and\or win a national title like he said it was when he was introduced at Vanderbilt (I could hardly contain my laughter to be honest when he said that he would get Vanderbilt to a final four), he should be aiming much higher than the schools you listed. He got his mistake\mulligan at Vanderbilt. If he leaves for another P5 job he'd better get the job done or his chances for advancement a third time are near zero.
Didn't know every single Final Four team was a P5 school? What about Loyola and Butler? I would want a coach that believes he can take his team to final four. A lot of people in life have laughed at the greats because no one believed they could do great things except themselves. I am sure no one thought Valpo would make it to the MVC finals this year except the guys in the locker room.
Bryce had the talent at Vandy to get a team to the Final Four. He recruited insane talent to the program. His second season was lost when their top player got injured for the year, and I think a few others went down. I can't excuse his last season, as I didn't follow them as much in their winless year in the SEC. If Bryce learns to coach in a manner that can beat P5 teams, he can very much turn any of the schools that I mentioned, into another Baylor. Baylor was absolute sh!t in Men's Basketball, before Scott showed up...
My family was cleaning out the basement - and what better activity can you do given the situation?
We found something that I wondering where it was - a Bryce Drew NBA rookie card!
Time to go to the World Famous Gold and Silver and see if Rick Harrison will take my $500 offer!
Good stuff! I don't know how to post pictures but I've got a high school card of his from when they made their state tourney run. His mom was my sisters teacher (probably 25 years ago) and he came to visit and she got it signed for me.
the card in the beautiful laminated holder is worth perhaps a buck! So much for $500. I can hear Rick Harrison respond - "uh... no"
valpotx - I need to keep conversations going during these times.
Scott Drew has been outstanding at Baylor, elevating the team and program in a tremendously better status since he took over. I remember when he got the job, and all the Big 12 coaches were praising him - from their comments one can interpret their support assumed Baylor being a Big 12 doormat for the long term. What happened of course was that these coaches underestimated Scott Drew's recruiting skills, and now they loathe him for recruiting top talent. Rick Barnes was loving the Drew hire, then ripping him when he was getting top Texas recruits. Iowa State fans cannot stand him and think he is corrupt - but I think nothing has been reported.
That being said, Baylor athletics have had their issues particularly with their football program and their fan base. Their fan base during the Baylor University sexual assault scandal was pathetic with their support of Art Briles.
Love me some college sports, but the fact that Penn State and Baylor are still allowed to play football, and yet Jubril missed most of his senior year tell you all you need to know about the NCAA.
Hutton: Bryce Drew says getting hired at Grand Canyon during the coronavirus pandemic is 'a blessing'
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-mike-hutton-column-st-041420-20200413-ysegaerrgfddxfw5tgpydejcou-story.html
Grand Canyon, which announced its hiring of Drew on March 17, isn't a good fit. Drew replaced Dan Majerle.
It's a perfect fit.
"We were really impressed with the vision and mission they have for the school and their commitment to basketball," he said. "That was a big draw for us."
"Looking back on this, I didn't know all this stuff (shutting down of the country due to the pandemic) was going to happen when I was going out there," he said. "The timing was great. It's a blessing how it has worked out."
Unfortunate timing for Bryce Also amazing that a school like Wake Forest (one of the smallest P5 budgets in the nation) is just casually flushing $15million plus the salary for the new coach. Especially during this pandemic and the economic situation it has created this move is very surprising.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1254050181294837760
DePaul should go after Manning now.
Quote from: VUGrad1314 on April 26, 2020, 04:22:52 AM
Unfortunate timing for Bryce Also amazing that a school like Wake Forest (one of the smallest P5 budgets in the nation) is just casually flushing $15million plus the salary for the new coach. Especially during this pandemic and the economic situation it has created this move is very surprising.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1254050181294837760
I would be very surprised if Bryce was still available that he'd be a candidate there. I think a few years of success at GCU and power programs will forget the 0fer in the SEC.
Wake Forest had to make a change. Danny was not getting it done after about 5 years. Randolph Childress is acting as interim coach until the "search firm" assisted coaching search is completed. Two leading candidates are Wes Miller (former UNC player) and current UNC-Greensboro coach. Good up and coming mid-major coach. Some think maybe next UNC coach. Just 15 miles down the road from Wake. The other and my preferred choice is Pat Kelsey. Pat is currently coaching Winthrop. Has a long time connection to Skip Prosser, was at Wake (played at X), and then Xavier with Chris Mack. Great guy and has done terrific at Winthrop. Wake has had 3 recruits decommit this week after the Manning exit. There has been some discussion of Beilein, but I would not go that direction. He's 66 and damaged goods now. Bryce would have been a good candidate in this search. They need someone who can get some players and coach them. They are stuck because if they get top recruits, they can leave quickly (aka John Collins), but they are not going to get them consistently and compete against UNC, Duke and Ville with that type of recruiting. They need a style of play and a talented/coachable players. Skip and Dino Gaudio had that going. Bzdelik destroyed the program and momentum. Danny picked it back up a little, but long-term wasn't the answer. Maybe one of the best sets of players on a bench though with Rex, Danny, and Randolph plus Rusty LaRue (Last Dance) down the street at West Forsyth HS (could be a far outside shot at the job too).
Valpo connection in all this, Rex Walters was an assistant at Wake this past year. Rex was an assistant at Valpo 2003-05.
Ed Schilling, an asst coach with Bryce Drew at Grand Canyon, has lost his father, Ed Schilling, Sr. to the Covid-19 virus.
My condolences to the Schilling family and the people of Lebanon and coaching staff and players at GCU.
Schilling Sr. was a former coach at Marian University and a player at Butler.
Butler hall of famer, ex-Marian coach Ed Schilling Sr. dies following COVID-19 fight
DAVID WOODS | INDIANAPOLIS STAR | 45 minutes ago
INDIANAPOLIS – Todd Lickliter had an unusual, but rewarding, relationship with Ed Schilling.
Both played basketball for the Butler Bulldogs, but never as teammates. Both became college coaches, but never on the same staff. Schilling, as coach at then-Marian College, tried to recruit Lickliter as a point guard.
But they were once teammates on an amateur team playing at Indianapolis' old Dearborn Gym. After three trips up and down the floor, Schilling delivered a warning to his point guard: When I'm on the block, throw me the ball.
"It was like, OK," Lickliter recalled. "It wasn't going to be more than three times when you weren't getting the ball down to Big Ed."
Ron Iwema a former Butler teammate, can attest to that.
"He would always put his hand out and say, 'Feed the hand,'" Iwema recalled.
That's because the 6-5 Schilling, a member of the Butler Athletics Hall of Fame, could hand over victory.
He outmaneuvered and outjumped taller players. Despite being outsized, he nearly made the Indiana Pacers' ABA roster. In 1965-66, he averaged 20.7 points a game to set a Butler scoring record.
Schilling — otherwise known as "Big Ed" or "Big Chill" — died Thursday at Witham Hospital in Lebanon. He was 75.
His son, Ed Jr., said his father caught COVID-19 at Lebanon's Homewood Health Campus. On April 17, the Boone County Health Department reported 12 residents at the nursing home had died from COVID-19. Ed Jr. said his father became ill from the flu in December, then developed pneumonia.
Although Schilling was a native Ohioan, he spent most of his life in Indiana. Upon retiring after 27 years as an IUPUI professor, he was honored as a distinguished Hoosier by Gov. Mitch Daniels.
"He was one of those larger-than-life guys," Schilling's son said.
Edmund C. Schilling was born July 18, 1944, in Cleveland, the son of a factory worker. He was a basketball and track star at East High School. In 1962, he high jumped 6 feet, 4 inches and tied for Ohio's state title with a jump of 6-3 ¼, landing in a sawdust pit.
He enrolled at University of Cincinnati, which was coming off an NCAA championship. Freshmen weren't eligible then, so he played for an unbeaten freshman team in 1962-63, when the Bearcats varsity lost to Loyola in the NCAA championship game.
The following summer, Schilling broke his leg and dislocated an ankle in a car collision. He transferred to Butler, where coach Tony Hinkle did not offer the big-time program featured at Cincinnati.
"When I got to Cincinnati, they met me and took my bags up to my room and took my dad to the football game," Schilling said in a Hinkle biography written by the late Howard Caldwell. "When I arrived at Butler, there was no one there to meet me, so the next day I went to coach Hinkle's office and said, 'Well, I'm here,' and he said, 'Good, glad to have you.'"
Soon, Schilling found himself on a Butler Bowl cleanup crew. It was part of the terms of his scholarship.
He played in just seven games in 1964-65 but was a breakout star the next season.
"He was by far the biggest and strongest guy we had," former teammate Ron Showley recalled. "Plus, he was an excellent jumper."
Another teammate, Jim Hohlt, added:
"He could throw his weight around pretty good, and he would not back down from anybody."
Schilling was the Bulldogs' key figure in what still might rate as their biggest upset victory ever, even more than a half-century later.
On Dec. 22, 1965, the 2-5 Bulldogs were at home to play third-ranked Michigan. The Wolverines were coming off a runner-up finish to UCLA in the NCAA tournament. They played at Butler the night after losing to No. 1 Duke 100-93 in Detroit.
In warm-ups, the Wolverines put on an impressive display of dunking. Yet the Bulldogs weren't exactly "dogmeat," as Schilling once put it.
Michigan fell behind 20-8 and never recovered. Schilling had 26 points and 13 rebounds.
It was one of those nights where everything went in. He took off the wrong foot on a hook shot, and made it. He went in for a layup in traffic, was knocked to the floor and slid under the basket.
"Then I heard this fan reaction, so I knew the ball went in," Schilling said.
He long contended he would have made the Pacers if not for spots reserved for those with no-cut contracts. Mel Daniels, a member of the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame, seemingly confirmed that when he told Ed Jr.:
"Hey, your dad was the real deal."
Schilling continued to play semipro or amateur ball, touring Europe, South America and Australia in addition to playing around the United States.
He had jobs in athletics at Thorntown, Sheridan, Carmel and Connersville high schools.
At 25, he became head coach at Marian, where he stayed five seasons. The Knights averaged 96.2 points a game in 1971-72, near tops in NAIA and still a school record.
He was an interim coach at IUPUI before continuing at the school, teaching education and physical education.
Father and son coached together during summers at Five-Star Basketball Camps. So did Lickliter. That cemented a friendship with Big Ed.
"He was a person of wisdom and great loyalty," said Lickliter, head coach at Evansville after stops at Butler, Iowa and Marian.
Ed Jr., a former Miami of Ohio point guard, recently joined the staff of new Grand Canyon coach Bryce Drew.
Ed Jr. coached Park Tudor to Class 2A state titles in 2011 and 2012 was head coach at Wright State from 1998-2003. He was an assistant at Indiana and UCLA, and an assistant to John Calipari at UMass, Memphis and the NBA's New Jersey Nets.
"The BIG Chill was one of the good guys," tweeted Calipari, the Kentucky coach. "He shined as a player, as a coach, as a professor, and as a husband and father."
Schilling was past president of the Lions Club in Lebanon and a member of the Witham Hospital Foundation.
Besides his son and son's wife (April), survivors include his wife, Ina, and five grandchildren.
Getting connected to Hinkle was "the best thing that ever happened to him," Schilling's son said. Until recently, his father was a longtime Butler season ticket-holder.
"Once you get the Butler Way in your system," Schilling once said, "you keep it."
Contact IndyStar reporter David Woods at david.woods@indystar.com. Follow him on Twitter: @DavidWoods007.
Originally Published 18 hours ago
Updated 45 minutes ago
This virus is real and is hitting hard in certain communities. You are very lucky if is not hitting hard in your own community.
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GCU is 3-0....
Quote from: tiny707 on December 02, 2020, 11:59:56 AM
GCU is 3-0....
Having played two teams from the worst conference in college basketball (Grambling and Mississippi Valley State) and a non-D1 team.
With that schedule you better be 3-0!
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Hey, give us a break, at least we aren't 0-2 having lost to some poor teams like Vandy, a terrible SEC team, I should know, and UIC, previously a poor HL team.