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Title: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: Pgmado on October 13, 2021, 03:24:33 PM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game

Wins - 16.5
MVC Finish - 5.5
Postseason victories - 0.5
Conference win streak - 2.5
Conference loss streak - 2.5
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5
Successful home run plays - 1.5
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5
Attendance - 2,850

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points?
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: covufan on October 13, 2021, 07:50:08 PM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game Over
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio Over
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG Over
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game Under
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game Over
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points Over
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks Over
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game Under
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks Over if not, we need to remind him on Twitter
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers Over
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG Over
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers Over
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG Over
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game Under

Wins - 16.5 Over
MVC Finish - 5.5 Under They will finish in Top 5
Postseason victories - 0.5 Over
Conference win streak - 2.5 Over
Conference loss streak - 2.5 Under
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 Over
Successful home run plays - 1.5 Over
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 Over
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 Over
Attendance - 2,850 Over

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Fricke
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be? 25 Most students aren't 21, but enterprising enough to collect a few.  Once they get over 25, it will be banned.


Thanks, and looking forward to a great season!
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: humbleopinion on October 14, 2021, 06:37:40 AM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game Over
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio Over
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG Under
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game Under
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game Under
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points Over
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks Under
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game Over
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks Over
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers Over
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG Over
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers Over
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG Over
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game Under

Wins - 16.5 Over
MVC Finish - 5.5 Over That is, placing anywhere from first to fifth
Postseason victories - 0.5 Over
Conference win streak - 2.5 Over
Conference loss streak - 2.5 Under
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 Under
Successful home run plays - 1.5 Over
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 Over
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 Under
Attendance - 2,850 Over

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Preston
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be? 34  --  I had to look up the definition...

I was looking for "Number of drunk fans ejected" category.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: usc4valpo on October 14, 2021, 06:52:57 AM
Why would The Valpo no fun police get rid of beer snakes?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: IndyEIT777 on October 14, 2021, 09:33:38 AM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game Over
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio Under
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG Under
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game Under
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game Under
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points Over
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks Under
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game Over
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks Over
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers Over
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG Over
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers Under
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG Under
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game Under

Wins - 16.5 Over
MVC Finish - 5.5 Under
Postseason victories - 0.5 Under
Conference win streak - 2.5 Under
Conference loss streak - 2.5 Under
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 Over
Successful home run plays - 1.5 Over
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 Over
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 Under
Attendance - 2,850 Over

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Preston
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be? 20 Cups
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: bb33 on October 15, 2021, 09:38:40 AM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game   OVER
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio. OVER
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG. UNDER
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game. UNDER
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game.    OVER
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points   UNDER
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks. UNDER
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game. UNDER
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks. OVER -- because now he has target to go after
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers  OVER
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG. OVER
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers. OVER.
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG. OVER
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game   UNDER

Wins - 16.5.  OVER
MVC Finish - 5.5    OVER
Postseason victories - 0.5  OVER
Conference win streak - 2.5 UNDER
Conference loss streak - 2.5. UNDER
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5. OVER
Successful home run plays - 1.5. UNDER
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5. OVER
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5  OVER
Attendance - 2,850. OVER

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Preston
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be?  10
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: vu72 on October 15, 2021, 10:23:04 AM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game Over
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio Under
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG Under
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game Over
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game Under
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points Over
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks Under
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game Under
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks Over
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers Over
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG Under
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers Under
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG Iver
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game Over

Wins - 16.5 Over
MVC Finish - 5.5 Over
Postseason victories - 0.5 Over
Conference win streak - 2.5 Over
Conference loss streak - 2.5 Under
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 Over
Successful home run plays - 1.5 Over
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 Over
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 Under
Attendance - 2,850 Over

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Preston
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be? 12 Cups
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: VUSWIM08-12 on October 15, 2021, 12:24:22 PM
Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game Over
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio under
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG Under
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game Under
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game Under
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ pointsOver
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocksUnder
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game Over
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks Over
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers Over
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FGUnder
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointersOver
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFGUnder
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I gameOver

Wins - 16.5Over
MVC Finish - 5.5Under finish in top 5
Postseason victories - 0.5 Over
Conference win streak - 2.5 Over
Conference loss streak - 2.5Over
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5Over
Successful home run plays - 1.5Over
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5Over
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5Over
Attendance - 2,850 Over

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Ruedinger is a walk on right?
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be? They'll be shut down immediately lol but before administration shuts it down 8
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: vok22 on October 15, 2021, 12:54:28 PM
Quote from: Pgmado on October 13, 2021, 03:24:33 PM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game Over
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio Under
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG Under
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game Under
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game Under
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points Under
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks Under
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game Over
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks Over
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers Over
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG Under
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers Under
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG Under
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game  Over

Wins - 16.5 Over
MVC Finish - 5.5 Under (finish 5th)
Postseason victories - 0.5 Under
Conference win streak - 2.5 Over
Conference loss streak - 2.5 Over
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 Over
Successful home run plays - 1.5 Over
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 Over
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 Over
Attendance - 2,850 Over

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Preston
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be? 15 cups
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: bb33 on October 15, 2021, 04:38:05 PM
Ruedinger is basically a deferred scholarship kid.   (With the extra year of eligibility the four in five scholarship is pretty prevalent for the 2021 and 2022s.)    Does he still count as a walk-on in this context?  I know technically he does, but almost everyone will pick him since he will get the most minutes and thus this isn't a really good tiebreaker question.   Just an observation.  We should just choose between the other three who may or may not play.  That's the real question.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: Pgmado on October 15, 2021, 08:42:29 PM
Quote from: bb33 on October 15, 2021, 04:38:05 PM
Ruedinger is basically a deferred scholarship kid.   (With the extra year of eligibility the four in five scholarship is pretty prevalent for the 2021 and 2022s.)    Does he still count as a walk-on in this context?  I know technically he does, but almost everyone will pick him since he will get the most minutes and thus this isn't a really good tiebreaker question.   Just an observation.  We should just choose between the other three who may or may not play.  That's the real question.


It's why I added a second tiebreaker.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: VUBBFan on October 17, 2021, 04:41:54 PM

Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game Over
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio Over
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG  Under
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game Under
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game Under
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points Under
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks  Under
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game Over
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks  Over
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers Over
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG Over
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers Under
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG Under
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game Over

Wins - 16.5  Over
MVC Finish - 5.5 Over
Postseason victories - 0.5 Over
Conference win streak - 2.5 Over
Conference loss streak - 2.5 Under
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 Over
Successful home run plays - 1.5 Over
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 Over
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 Under
Attendance - 2,850 Over

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Preston
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be? 27
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: talksalot on October 17, 2021, 06:33:01 PM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game Under
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio Under
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG Under
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game Under
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game Under
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points Over
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks Under
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game Over
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks Under
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers Under
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG Over
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers Under
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG Under
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game  Under

Wins - 16.5 Over
MVC Finish - 5.5 Under  - If Under is "Better"... Under
Postseason victories - 0.5 Over
Conference win streak - 2.5 Over
Conference loss streak - 2.5 Over
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 Over
Successful home run plays - 1.5 Over
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 Over
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 Under
Attendance - 2,850 Over

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Tyler
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be? 26, just to be obstinate
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: VUBBFan on October 17, 2021, 08:23:15 PM
I believe there is confusion on the over/under MVC finish question.

I take it OVER means they finish 1st thru 5th (better) and UNDER is finishing 6th thru 10th (worse).

Can we have a clarification on this?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: covufan on October 18, 2021, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: VUBBFan on October 17, 2021, 08:23:15 PM
I believe there is confusion on the over/under MVC finish question.

I take it OVER means they finish 1st thru 5th (better) and UNDER is finishing 6th thru 10th (worse).

Can we have a clarification on this?
On the podcast Todd took the Over for 5th or better.  But I understand the confusion, as I had under, but I caveated by saying we'll finish in top 5. 
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: mp91 on October 18, 2021, 04:17:59 PM
OVER on Wins

More importantly... Are we serving beer now??

Did I miss this? Is this new or have we been selling it for a while? Haven't been to a game in about a year and 1/2, but I don't remember them ever selling beer before.

Cup snakes are the best. Let's get wild, Wrigley Field style
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: humbleopinion on October 18, 2021, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: covufan on October 18, 2021, 08:46:27 AM
Quote from: VUBBFan on October 17, 2021, 08:23:15 PM
I believe there is confusion on the over/under MVC finish question.

I take it OVER means they finish 1st thru 5th (better) and UNDER is finishing 6th thru 10th (worse).

Can we have a clarification on this?
On the podcast Todd took the Over for 5th or better.  But I understand the confusion, as I had under, but I caveated by saying we'll finish in top 5. 


In that case, I have modified my post to indicate that I expect to place fifth or better in the MVC
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: vu84v2 on October 18, 2021, 05:33:43 PM
Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game UNDER
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio OVER
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG UNDER, but not by much
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game UNDER
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game UNDER
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points UNDER
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks OVER
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game UNDER
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks OVER
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers OVER
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG UNDER
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers OVER
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG OVER
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game OVER

Wins - 16.5 OVER
MVC Finish - 5.5 OVER (I predict 5th or better)
Postseason victories - 0.5 OVER
Conference win streak - 2.5 OVER
Conference loss streak - 2.5 OVER
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 OVER
Successful home run plays - 1.5 OVER
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 OVER
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 UNDER
Attendance - 2,850 UNDER

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points? Preston
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be?  14

Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: bbtds on October 24, 2021, 05:53:47 AM
Valparaiso 2021-22 Over/Under

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game       OVER

Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio     OVER

Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG              UNDER

Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game         UNDER

Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game          UNDER

Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points         UNDER

Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks                      UNDER

Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game               OVER

Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks                        OVER

Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers                 OVER

Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG                        OVER

Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers                       UNDER

Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG                OVER

Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game       OVER


Wins - 16.5                          UNDER     

MVC Finish - 5.5                   UNDER  (6th place or lower)

Postseason victories - 0.5      OVER

Conference win streak - 2.5    OVER

Conference loss streak - 2.5    OVER

SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5   UNDER

Successful home run plays - 1.5   OVER

Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5   OVER

Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5     UNDER

Attendance - 2,850    UNDER


Tiebreaker questions

Which walk-on scores the most points?  Ruedy

How long will the longest beer snake of the season be?  13 of course
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: VALPO LI on October 28, 2021, 12:28:12 PM
Valpo Over/Under 2021-2022 Season:

Thomas Kithier - 5.2 rebounds per game OVER
Cam Palesse - 1.1 assist to turnover ratio UNDER
Connor Barrett - 40.5 percent 3PFG UNDER
Darius DeAveiro - 1.8 assists per game UNDER
Keyondre Young - 6.8 points per game UNDER
Eron Gordon - 5.5 games of 10+ points OVER
Emil Freese-Vilien - 3.5 blocks UNDER
Kevion Taylor - 9.5 points per game OVER
Sheldon Edwards - 6.5 dunks OVER
Trevor Anderson - 32.5 3-pointers OVER
Ben Krikke - 53.5 percent FG OVER
Joe Hedstrom - 0.5 3-pointers UNDER
Trey Woodyard - 33.3 percent 3PFG UNDER
Kobe King - 19.5 minutes in first Division I game UNDER
Wins - 16.5 OVER
MVC Finish - 5.5 OVER
Postseason victories - 0.5 OVER
Conference win streak - 2.5 OVER
Conference loss streak - 2.5 OVER
SportsCenter Top 10 plays - 0.5 OVER
Successful home run plays - 1.5 OVER
Valpo players on 1st/2nd Team All-League - 0.5 OVER
Valpo players on All-Newcomer Team - 1.5 UNDER
Attendance - 2,850 OVER (3,333)

Tiebreaker questions
Which walk-on scores the most points this year? MORILL  because "people like him"  thanx Baker :thumbsup:
How long will the longest beer snake of the season be?  00
Average wait time @ the concession stand for a beer - 5.5 minutes OVER
Percentage of fans wearing Lighthouse tee shirts in the student section for the home opener vs Toledo 49.9% OVER
Number of times a commentator calls Valpo the Crusaders. -1.5 OVER
Title: Re: 2021-22 Over/Under
Post by: talksalot on October 28, 2021, 01:15:33 PM
Quote from: VALPO LI on October 28, 2021, 12:28:12 PMNumber of times a commentator calls Valpo the Crusaders. -1.5 OVER


I'd make a "Smart A@@" comment... but honestly... I'd take the "over"...if you limit this to just the Public Address guy...

If you are talking about our "guest TV Announcers" for the ESPNU games... all bets are off...