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Title: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpofb16 on November 03, 2021, 09:59:19 AM
Valpo plays arguably the oddest opponent in the NCAA this week. Big time analytic driven football (no punting, onside kicks)

Most of the conference has put up 50+ and ran away with games. However I believe we have worst OC in the conference. (Although there is a world where Limbach comes out throwing the ball)

Run the ball play good defense. Use clock and give our D rest.

Prediction : Valpo 45 Pres 14
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: vu72 on November 03, 2021, 10:33:55 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 03, 2021, 09:59:19 AM
Valpo plays arguably the oddest opponent in the NCAA this week. Big time analytic driven football (no punting, onside kicks)

Most of the conference has put up 50+ and ran away with games. However I believe we have worst OC in the conference. (Although there is a world where Limbach comes out throwing the ball)

Run the ball play good defense. Use clock and give our D rest.

Prediction : Valpo 45 Pres 14

It should be a fun game to watch! The announcers at the San Diego game said that Pres was going for it on 4th down from their own 15 yard line!  :o That's some novel thinking!
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: IndyValpo on November 03, 2021, 12:58:21 PM
They have punted 7 times this year. 3 of those were last week as they were being drubbed by Stetson.
2 of the 7 were for 0 or less yards, yes one was negative.
Their average kickoff is 22 yards meaning they onside kick a lot.
They are the Blue Hose with Scotty the Scotsman for a mascot.
https://thesportsarsenal.com/2017/09/10/game-review-2017-presbyterian/1-scotty-the-scotsman/

Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: usc4valpo on November 03, 2021, 06:50:47 PM
Interesting game coming up. I I like seeing new things. We need a little trial and error creativity
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: ValpoDr on November 03, 2021, 09:16:05 PM
LOL...yep, strong statement given another  massive failure of a season.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: ValpoDr on November 03, 2021, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on November 03, 2021, 06:50:47 PMInteresting game coming up. I I like seeing new things. We need a little trial and error creativity
Really need a new coaching staff, budget and 'like OMG' stadium, facilities, etc etc.
total joke.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpofb16 on November 04, 2021, 11:18:26 AM
Valpo DR: I will say this as an alum

If you are a

Parent: I'm sorry this is not Big10 or MAC in terms of those things, but this is who offered your child a chance to play football...


Friend/Relative of student athlete: see above

If you wanted the Power 5 or FBS football experience player X probably should have tried to walk on elsewhere.

I will say track record of transferring players is not great. Kids are usually appropriately recruited. Usually it's parents or kids with a skewed view.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: covufan on November 04, 2021, 10:46:05 PM
38-28 Valpo

Go beakers


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Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: VUSupport on November 05, 2021, 10:36:18 AM
Hoping this is like the Dayton game. The boys came out inspired. End the year on a nice little streak to build on for next season
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: usc4valpo on November 05, 2021, 02:28:55 PM
Beakers win big 42-22. Game should be a ham and egger if they play to their mental potential.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: SlimJimJZ on November 05, 2021, 05:09:02 PM
Hoping Valpo bounces back after last weekend.

Valpo-42
Presbyterian-24
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: bbtds on November 05, 2021, 09:15:49 PM
Valpo             31
Presbyterian   28 (of course I meant at halftime)  :o

Valpo has underperformed all season long.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 08:42:55 AM
Not sure underperform is word I'd use


@IWU- Older roster / 7-1 right now, multiple ranked wins


Dartmouth: 7-1 competing for FCS Playoffs


@NDSU:8-0 national title contender, would beat a few power 5 schools


@ Drake : 2-5 , beaten back to back games, only second time in school history


Marist: 3-4 , agree this should have been a win, first let down


@ Saint Thomas : 5-2 , upper tier PFL team on road


Dayton: 4-4, took care of business at home vs mid tier pfl team


San Diego: 5-4, lost on road to top defense in PFL


I'd say offense has not clicked but tough schedule. I think Beacons take care of business next 3 weeks and finish 5-6 with grueling schedule

Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: JD24 on November 06, 2021, 08:55:18 AM
I watched a good part of Dartmouth take apart Princeton last night and it was hard to believe Valpo was competitive with them. Princeton, undefeated prior to last night, was not competitive with them.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 01:28:25 PM
Presbyterian is Carlson-esque, feel for the parents and kids in that program. Hopefully guy is fired
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: JD24 on November 06, 2021, 02:16:11 PM
Valpo's up right now due to the rushing game and the strangeness of the opponent but Ben Nimz just isn't very good. He misses throws too often including one where the TE was about as open as he'll ever see and he missed him by 5 yards. This following a pass to Maxwell which he was also wide open and was missed. Coach Fox did not look happy with his QB coming off the field. That said...I'm not sure the roster has anyone better.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 02:22:30 PM
All Limbach has to do is run the ball up 14 down field. Comes out throwing.

Man this is incredibly hard to watch
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: bbtds on November 06, 2021, 02:37:13 PM
Quote from: bbtds on November 05, 2021, 09:15:49 PM
Valpo             31
Presbyterian   28 (of course I meant at halftime)  :o

Valpo has underperformed all season long.

Just kidding!
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: vu72 on November 06, 2021, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: JD24 on November 06, 2021, 02:16:11 PMBen Nimz just isn't very good

I don't know why you would say that!  We've got 71 yards passing in the last 1.5 games!  ::)
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: vu84v2 on November 06, 2021, 04:56:36 PM
Bizarre game - had it on while I was doing some work.

Best stat that I saw...when PU scored to make is 58-55 it eclipsed the previous combined points in a game in which Valpo played. The prior record was 110, in which Valpo beat Lewis 110-0 in the 1920s.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 04:58:49 PM
That wasn't even enjoyable to watch
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: IndyValpo on November 06, 2021, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 04:58:49 PM
That wasn't even enjoyable to watch
Completely agree, add to it the refs were a joke. The head guy changed the clock about 20 times.

Personal thought, Presbyterian's plan will not work.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpotx on November 06, 2021, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on November 06, 2021, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 04:58:49 PM
That wasn't even enjoyable to watch
Completely agree, add to it the refs were a joke. The head guy changed the clock about 20 times.

Personal thought, Presbyterian's plan will not work.

Give it time, when their HC has a few recruiting classes that meet his objectives.  People said the same thing about the Air Raid offense, when it first came around.

Good to win!
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: David81 on November 07, 2021, 12:23:49 AM
When I turned off the video, it was 28-8 for VU. With a busy weekend to-do list, I figured a huge blowout was in the offing.

Dang....


Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: JD24 on November 07, 2021, 09:53:32 AM
Quote from: valpotx on November 06, 2021, 07:56:48 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on November 06, 2021, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 04:58:49 PMThat wasn't even enjoyable to watch
Completely agree, add to it the refs were a joke. The head guy changed the clock about 20 times. Personal thought, Presbyterian's plan will not work.
Give it time, when their HC has a few recruiting classes that meet his objectives.  People said the same thing about the Air Raid offense, when it first came around. Good to win!
He'll need to come up with a defense which can limit the damage when the no punting/failed onside kicks don't work.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: JD24 on November 07, 2021, 11:47:28 AM
Does Valpo go back to Nimz or move to Jackson who, I think, probably fits this offense much better because he's a running threat? He was able to complete the passes needed to keep drives alive and/or hit a guy wide open for the TD.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: vu72 on November 07, 2021, 05:25:03 PM
Quote from: JD24 on November 07, 2021, 11:47:28 AM
Does Valpo go back to Nimz or move to Jackson who, I think, probably fits this offense much better because he's a running threat? He was able to complete the passes needed to keep drives alive and/or hit a guy wide open for the TD.

I would think Jackson.  I presume further that the freshman qb's are being red-shirted.  They showed a lot of talent on the film I've seen.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpofb16 on November 07, 2021, 05:38:01 PM
Freshman can redshirt regardless now as only 2 games left. Room is interesting moving forward.

Jackson/Nimz could graduate and walk. Berry lost the starting and back up slot. Lawson has only been used on running downs. Kaplan and Appel redshirt.

If I were a betting man id bet we bring in one this off-season. One of Jefferson / Nimz comes back. And one of the remaining four transfer
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpo tundra on November 07, 2021, 07:24:22 PM
One of the best parts of the game was when President Padilla, pom poms in hand , led the Cheerleaders in a cheer. You'd never see MLB do that. In fact, our new leader will probably go to as many sporting events as MLB given that MLB rarely ever goes to sports that aren't football or basketball.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpopal on November 07, 2021, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: valpo tundra on November 07, 2021, 07:24:22 PM
One of the best parts of the game was when President Padilla, pom poms in hand , led the Cheerleaders in a cheer. You'd never see MLB do that. In fact, our new leader will probably go to as many sporting events as MLB given that MLB rarely ever goes to sports that aren't football or basketball.
I was at a meeting this week where Padilla commented about the increased attendance at football games this season and encouraged faculty to attend other sporting events, particularly mentioning men's & women's basketball and volleyball.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: sliman on November 07, 2021, 09:15:17 PM
Replying to valpo tundra: MLB is often seen at many home events in all sports.  Probably makes all home football and basketball games, but he's also been to cross country, swimming, volleyball, softball, baseball, etc.  I haven't seen him with poms, though.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: JD24 on November 07, 2021, 11:18:10 PM
I've never not seen him at a football game.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpo tundra on November 12, 2021, 12:33:31 PM
Many M+W Tennis matches seen in person over the years with no MLB in sight. Many M+W soccer matches seen in person with only one sighting to memory. Numerous M+W Cross Country Crusader Opens, our only home meets of the year, with no sightings. Several Softball and Baseball games with no sightings. Occasional Swimming meets with no sightings in memory. Numerous Volleyball games with reasonably reliable sightings. And, I already mentioned he does go to pretty much all of the M+W Basketball and Football games. This a first hand account of facts, not anecdotal thoughts that just because he is AD he must go to events, or that you or others have seen him at something and then transfer that to other events.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: sliman on November 12, 2021, 12:59:26 PM
valpo tundra, My comments also are based on observations over his years at Valpo.  Clearly there will be conflicts that prevent him from being two places at once but it's my observation that he makes it to most home events, although perhaps not staying for the entire event.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpo64 on November 12, 2021, 02:25:23 PM
Cheap shots, "tundra".
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: bbtds on November 13, 2021, 06:33:21 PM
ML was at tonight's UIC basketball game and while walking around greeting people he was watching the Valpo/Butler football game on his tablet. One of my relatives mentioned that he was being criticized on this message board for not being at enough athletic events. He chuckled and said "let them think what they want." 

What is our AD supposed to do?
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpo64 on November 14, 2021, 02:27:00 PM
Some people let facts get in the way when they speak or post.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: IndyValpo on December 05, 2021, 09:30:47 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on November 06, 2021, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 04:58:49 PM
That wasn't even enjoyable to watch
Completely agree, add to it the refs were a joke. The head guy changed the clock about 20 times.

Personal thought, Presbyterian's plan will not work.
Coach lasted one season, he resigned this week.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: JD24 on December 05, 2021, 11:03:37 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on December 05, 2021, 09:30:47 PM
Quote from: IndyValpo on November 06, 2021, 07:25:19 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on November 06, 2021, 04:58:49 PMThat wasn't even enjoyable to watch
Completely agree, add to it the refs were a joke. The head guy changed the clock about 20 times. Personal thought, Presbyterian's plan will not work.
Coach lasted one season, he resigned this week.
With a public statement pointing out all of the great things his team did in beating two barely above HS teams and no one else.
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: valpofb16 on December 06, 2021, 11:02:16 AM
Their QB is in xfer portal. I'd take him for sure!
Title: Re: Game 9 Presbyterian
Post by: usc4valpo on December 06, 2021, 11:29:20 AM
The question is if he wants athletic scholarship money.