#105 San Diego heads to #116 Valparaiso. Massey is calling for a Torreros win.
I think this is a very pivotal game for Fox's iteration of this program. A win here with a 2-2 start would be quite the statement.
Player to watch on San Diego is Chris Childers who comes from the Big 10 and Iu. The starting QB is a Colorado State bounce back and the back up (who plays quite a lot/running downs) is Temple bounce back. Expect a lot of read option after Dartmouth
Beacs have a lot of talent and season has been admirable.
21-14 Beacs?
Will Champ Kind be in the press box? Whammy!!
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 19, 2022, 01:50:18 PM
Will Champ Kind be in the press box? Whammy!!
This must be an inside joke. I've no idea what you are talking about.
Brick killed a guy
Brick needs to lay low for awhile
We breaking 5k+ at HC?
Champ would take the under.
"I'm very important. I have many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany. "
Update
7-0 San Diego:
Horton beat deep again. Quite the talent gap between the San Diego DL and Valpo OL. Not sure how Dawson has one carry when Valpo got the ball at the 40 twice
14-0 San Diego:
Trick play but man beat deep was once again Horton. Had a 3&19 deep in San Diego territory, Childers broke free. Offense is non existent
14-7 San Diego
Great drive for Beacs. Kaplan came in and added quite a different dynamic as a running QB. Nice to see OC had a plan B
14-13 San Diego
Great job by Fleming to get the defense spread. Trick play touch down from Dawson to Labus. Really makes no sense to go for 2 there...
20-14 Valpo!
Play action touchdown from Kaplan to Labus. Fleming really opened it up with personnel. Seen 4 RBs and 2 QBs
28-14 Valpo!
Kaplan big bomb to Davis. Jernegan a catch for the 2 Pointer. Defense is outstanding. 9-2 is in play
28-21 Valpo
Blocked field goal was fine. Defense played very well. Fumbled on their own twenty with game put away. Not sure why they switched RBs hurt timing
VALPO WINS!! Out played San Diego and other than a couple of bone head plays would have won relatively easily. Well done!
Party time at Tino's for a victory jazz flute rendition!l
That win should open some eyes.
I've been lurking around this board for many years, going back to seasons so bad that I wondered if VU should continue its football program.
With this win building on top of a gritty non-conference schedule, it's the first time I've felt like something truly different and special is happening here.
Way cool. :)
Great win for Valpo. They are recruiting much better and they have competent coaching. I hope the students are engaged and appreciating this success.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 24, 2022, 08:01:52 PMI hope the students are engaged and appreciating this success.
I wish I could have been at the game to see the students reactions. The attendance was 225 more than Indiana Wesleyan but there were 1000 alumni in town. The Wesleyan team probably had 500 fans there while San Diego had about 30.
Fox really is an outstanding defensive coach. After benching Horton for Rao the defense was borderline flawless (minus the post fumble grab)
Taking Franco with one offer as a CB then moving him to OLB and have him playing this way at 5'9 190 as a Sophomore is amazing
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 24, 2022, 08:34:58 PMFox really is an outstanding defensive coach. After benching Horton for Rao the defense was borderline flawless (minus the post fumble grab) Taking Franco with one offer as a CB then moving him to OLB and have him playing this way at 5'9 190 as a Sophomore is amazing
I heard Fox is on the hot seat.
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 24, 2022, 08:34:58 PM
Fox really is an outstanding defensive coach. After benching Horton for Rao the defense was borderline flawless (minus the post fumble grab)
Taking Franco with one offer as a CB then moving him to OLB and have him playing this way at 5'9 190 as a Sophomore is amazing
Horton wasn't benched. He came up lame on the long touchdown. Looked like a hamstring. He was in a lot of pain on the sideline. Athletic trainers were working on it for a while.
Fun win, and bodes well for the next month of games. Big fan of Fox for a few seasons, and the new OC seems to be doing some interesting things, versus prior Valpo bubble screen crap
Enjoying the replay on ESPN3. Valpo is certainly an upper-echelon PFL team...and now it's off to our first game ever in the state of South Carolina...
Fox of course is not on the hot seat unlike the mens BB coach. However, be aware Fox will likely look at bigger opportunistic in the future. this football program is a stepping stone coaches,which is OK
By the way, I liked how Coach Fox, in the post-game press conference, brought up in his opening remarks the execution issues that made the end of the game more dramatic than necessary: Blocked FG att, fumbled snap, long TD pass. And the demeanor of the players who joined him was more one of satisfaction than celebration.
It speaks of a team that has expectations of itself rather than mere hope. The late game almost-meltdown may prove to be a blessing in disguise, a reminder of the sustained level of play necessary to beat other good teams and to put games away.
USC I'm not so sure. Fox was a D3 player, spent 12 years at non scholarship Dayton (worked for Rick Chamberlain whose a lifer there).
If you build a sustainable winning program with house + kids set (Fox has a very nice spot from what I've been told) sometimes rebuilding elsewhere can be daunting.
Maybe wishful thinking but 6 figures and a program that is yours at a school where .500 keeps you employed. Tough to walk away (for example see Dale Lindsey , Rick Chamberlain)
Quote from: valpofb16 on September 25, 2022, 11:39:14 AM
USC I'm not so sure. Fox was a D3 player, spent 12 years at non scholarship Dayton (worked for Rick Chamberlain whose a lifer there).
If you build a sustainable winning program with house + kids set (Fox has a very nice spot from what I've been told) sometimes rebuilding elsewhere can be daunting.
Maybe wishful thinking but 6 figures and a program that is yours at a school where .500 keeps you employed. Tough to walk away (for example see Dale Lindsey , Rick Chamberlain)
Great observations.
I'm going to sound like an old fart (because that's becoming an accurate characterization), but there can be a point where ambition (as in climbing to perceived higher levels) gives way to satisfaction about being in a good place, where you can do quality work and make a difference. VU's football program has been waiting for such a guy for a long time. Maybe Coach Fox is it.
Fox is a young dude and he may have higher ambitions. If suitors provide offers he may take. However, he needs some winning seasons First.
Quote from: usc4valpo on September 25, 2022, 05:27:13 PM
Fox is a young dude and he may have higher ambitions. If suitors provide offers he may take. However, he needs some winning seasons First.
Good point. He must be in his early 40s, so yes, he could have several more moves in him.
So...is he a program builder, i.e., a guy who wants to turn around a football program and demonstrate sustained success before considering other jobs, or a guy who will be on the active lookout after one strong season, figuring there are no assurances of continued winning seasons in non-scholarship DI?
If the former, he could be around for at least another 3-4 seasons. If the latter, we could find out as soon as after this season.
This program needs a guy who won't cut and run at the first sign of success.
Totally agree, but we dont want a coach that is committed to Valpo but leads us to a long period of mediocrity. If Fox has success at Valpo for 2 or 3 seasons then moves up, that to me is a more positive sign than some dude who hangs around and makes it to the 0.500 mark now and then.
In an ideal world we'd find a coach where 6-9 wins is the standard , with 4-5 wins being their basement. Which is in line with Chamberlain and Lindsey. I think Fox can be that.
First lets get a winning season as we are 2-2 right now. I have seen this story several times before, and Valpo having a winning season is a huge milestone for this program.
This team has generated a ton of excitement but let's not overlook the fact there is no easy game in the PFL. Presbyterian will be a tough opponent. They hung 55 points on us last year - at Brown Field - and the outcome was not decided until the final couple minutes.
Paul
Quote from: 78crusader on September 26, 2022, 12:01:49 PMThis team has generated a ton of excitement but let's not overlook the fact there is no easy game in the PFL. Presbyterian will be a tough opponent. They hung 55 points on us last year - at Brown Field - and the outcome was not decided until the final couple minutes. Paul
This team should not struggle with Presbyterian or they aren't all that improved.
It appears that Presbyterian has abandoned that air raid/no punt offense of last year.
Should be a very different game, and a solid VU win.