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Title: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 09, 2022, 11:00:29 AM
#119 Butler travels to #105 Valparaiso. Massey calling for 28-20 win. Valpo won 47-3 last season.

It appears the Harvard receiver has had an impact. After reading box score zero idea how they 31-0 Dayton.

Bushka is back at QB , the defense is young.

Prediction: Valpo 14 - Butler 3
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: usc4valpo on October 09, 2022, 11:55:44 AM
35-10 Beacos, moving toward an NCAA playoff game in Fargo
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: vu84v2 on October 09, 2022, 12:31:10 PM
Quote from: usc4valpo on October 09, 2022, 11:55:44 AM
35-10 Beacos, moving toward an NCAA playoff game in Fargo

The FCS playoffs have 24 teams, with the top 8 teams getting a bye. Thus, a matchup with NDSU is very unlikely. But an FCS birth, regardless, would be quite an accomplishment.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpotx on October 09, 2022, 01:40:18 PM
Valpo 28
Butler 10
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: usc4valpo on October 10, 2022, 03:11:38 PM
I would to see the Beacos make a playoff trip to the Mecca of Div. IAA football and avoid the wood chipper.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: vu72 on October 10, 2022, 03:45:59 PM
Obviously a very big game but the team from down south has been a bit of a  Jekyll and Hyde.  Beating Dayton 31-0?  Losing to Davidson 31-0?  Weird. Not sure which team will show up.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: soapyjeans on October 10, 2022, 06:50:59 PM
Be wary of that other team (who shall not be named, lol) as their stats indicate their QB is also their leading rusher.  Which means he knows how to get through, argh.  :-\   
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: 78crusader on October 10, 2022, 07:40:48 PM
This game will be decided by seven points or less. Butler is not the same team we thrashed last year.

Paul
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: RiderJake on October 11, 2022, 02:17:57 AM
Quote from: 78crusader on October 10, 2022, 07:40:48 PMThis game will be decided by seven points or less. Butler is not the same team we thrashed last year. Paul
What about them this year? Is the offense or defense better? As far as I'm concerned, there's not much difference.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 11, 2022, 08:36:13 AM
Quite a lot actually.

1) they are +.500 entering the game

2) new coach with FBS experience ,  as opposed to coach on way out

3) QB is in second year starting

4) have some young LBs who can really play

5) top receiver a and pass rusher are bounce backs

They are coming of a big 31-0 win, into a rivalry game , against a team that wiped them 47-3 at home last season.

They are going to give the Beacs their best shot
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: usc4valpo on October 11, 2022, 10:28:20 AM
Beacos win big, and the dream road trip to the Fargodome is alive!
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: JD24 on October 11, 2022, 11:15:53 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on October 11, 2022, 08:36:13 AMQuite a lot actually. 1) they are +.500 entering the game 2) new coach with FBS experience ,  as opposed to coach on way out 3) QB is in second year starting 4) have some young LBs who can really play 5) top receiver a and pass rusher are bounce backs They are coming of a big 31-0 win, into a rivalry game , against a team that wiped them 47-3 at home last season. They are going to give the Beacs their best shot
They're tough to read this year because of their schedule and Dayton. Dayton's beaten Robert Morris which is a bad scholarship program and Drake which is a bad non scholarship program this year. Butler's beaten Taylor soundly when that game has been closer in the past and a program from FL which is young and in a conference with some extreme lightweights who PFL programs typically handle pretty easily and that game was close.

So I don't know what to expect this week other than I doubt the score is 49-3 Valpo.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: SlimJimJZ on October 12, 2022, 09:26:11 AM
Hard to really predict this game based off of That Team Down South's conference performance so far. It will be nice to have home field advantage in this matchup for The Helmet.


Valpo 31 - TTDS 17
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: usc4valpo on October 15, 2022, 09:27:43 AM
Beacos 27, Butler 10, with the Valpo dog mascots in a fight to the finish in the third quarter, leading to their expulsion and a big celebration on Union Street.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: JD24 on October 15, 2022, 09:32:20 AM
I think this is a close game. 20-17 hopefully in favor of the Beacons.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: vu72 on October 15, 2022, 10:57:32 AM
If we are one of the best this year, we need an impressive win. Davidson beat them 31-0.  I like 28-7. Go Beacons!
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 15, 2022, 01:09:45 PM
7-0 Beacs

Big plays by Labus and Dawson to start game. TD throw Appel to Ross. Walked right down field

14-0 Beacs

Walked down field again. This one is over.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: vu72 on October 15, 2022, 01:58:06 PM
Actually 13-0 and Valpo offense has stalled. Need to keep them out of the end zone before half.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 15, 2022, 01:59:25 PM
Just two OCs overthinking it. Neither team has consistently stopped the run, Both teams start 1&10 throwing

Can we take the Appel jab and run play with power blocking and punt it to Mars?
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 15, 2022, 02:17:10 PM
Mistake / Penalty filled second quarter, works up 13 against Butler. Would not be same story @Morehead or against St. Thomas
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: JD24 on October 15, 2022, 03:01:05 PM
DL getting blown off the ball and do those missed kicks come back to haunt.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: JD24 on October 15, 2022, 03:21:00 PM
another kick botched. They'll get ya eventually.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 15, 2022, 03:51:07 PM
Complete meltdown minus a 99 yard run Butler wins by two scores


On the thirty. Run the ball into field goal range use your time out and take the points.

Fleming wow that was an awful 3 quarters
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpotx on October 15, 2022, 05:18:44 PM
Dang, two missed extra points and a missed 38 yarder.  No FG is automatic, but those 2 extra points hurt, even with us blocking one of theirs.  It would have been OT, at a minimum, without blocked extra points.  Too bad...
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: justducky on October 15, 2022, 06:39:11 PM
Difficult pill to swallow and I am still struggling with it. BUT--- Hard fought and entertaining so congratulations to the victor!
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: soapyjeans on October 15, 2022, 07:42:52 PM
Gotta stop being predictable, period.  Its pretty hard to win against a team that knows what your gonna do, lol. 
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: JD24 on October 15, 2022, 10:24:43 PM
Quote from: valpotx on October 15, 2022, 05:18:44 PMDang, two missed extra points and a missed 38 yarder.  No FG is automatic, but those 2 extra points hurt, even with us blocking one of theirs.  It would have been OT, at a minimum, without blocked extra points.  Too bad...
Plus getting nothing on a two point try. I'm not a believer in chasing points and I didn't like going for 2 there.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 16, 2022, 07:40:44 AM
Did Appel get hurt?

Kaplan has been very up and down.  San Diego he was the saving grace. He fought his tail off at Illinois state.


But I'm this game and IWU the offense stalled under him and big leads were given up.

Just hope there was a legitimate reason why nothing was changed when the lead started shrinking
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: vu72 on October 16, 2022, 07:49:23 AM
Heart breaking loss, no doubt. Interesting as a few years back after we were curb stomped 72-12 we won the next game.  Lat year we basically did the stomping and then...of course, we handed them the game.  Still a shot at a title. The last time we won the PFL in 2003, we also lost to Butler that year.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: usc4valpo on October 16, 2022, 08:47:05 AM
And NDSU lost yesterday and first round playoff game with Valpo is still a reality! Road trip to Fargo! Big letdown for Valpo though, like USC trying to beat the officiating.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 16, 2022, 09:04:10 AM
Think title talk should be curved.

Next three

@Morehead State ( last win @ '06)
@ Dayton (never in last 16 years)
Saint Thomas ( undefeated , beat Davidson)

Very realistic this team enters November 12 weekend 3-6
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: soapyjeans on October 16, 2022, 12:14:27 PM
Heartbreaking and frustrating, plenty of opportunities to score went up in smoke, even with minimum 2 plays left in game, the dang announcer was excitedly saying Jernegan in the endzone wide open...Then moaned, Kaplan doesn't see him.  Has anyone found out why a different kicker wasn't used when clearly Barthlomew was off?  At least we've seen some very impressive freshmen getting it done. 
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: David81 on October 17, 2022, 10:30:24 AM
I was following the game remotely when they were up 13-0 and then had to break off, assuming that this was shaping into a big win for this program. I was stunned to see the final score.

For those of you watching the game, were the kicking game problems due to the overall execution of the kicking unit, or to the kicker simply missing the kicks, or both?
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpotx on October 17, 2022, 12:49:50 PM
Quote from: David81 on October 17, 2022, 10:30:24 AM
I was following the game remotely when they were up 13-0 and then had to break off, assuming that this was shaping into a big win for this program. I was stunned to see the final score.

For those of you watching the game, were the kicking game problems due to the overall execution of the kicking unit, or to the kicker simply missing the kicks, or both?

Same for me, as I left the mobile view up 13-0, as I had to coach 9U boy's soccer (win!).  I turn it back on when I get to the car, only to see that we lose 26-25
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: JD24 on October 17, 2022, 03:03:45 PM
Yeah. The offense wasn't all that great but the defense allowed a score for Butler every possession (save the kneel down) of the 2nd half. DL was dominated by Butler's OL.

STs? Whats the word I'm looking for. Oh...um....sucked. There's your word. Need a couple of points after TDs....not happenin. Need a big punt out of the end zone? How's 33 yards for you to give the opponents offense a 30 yard field late in the game. Need somebody to catch a kickoff. Well...we'll do it...but on the 2 yard line once we pick it up. Of course no one remembers because of the Dawson TD run.

Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 17, 2022, 06:51:15 PM
Great Summary JD if Dawson doesn't break a once in a life time play Butler walks away.

Bartholomew missed his last kick at Presbyterian too. Definitely a slump going on.

Was it Maxwell or Vercher on the KR?

Season really on the line this week. Don't want to go sub .500 with two favorites left
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: JD24 on October 17, 2022, 09:41:12 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on October 17, 2022, 06:51:15 PMGreat Summary JD if Dawson doesn't break a once in a life time play Butler walks away. Bartholomew missed his last kick at Presbyterian too. Definitely a slump going on. Was it Maxwell or Vercher on the KR? Season really on the line this week.
I had the sound off because I was doing some work but looked like Vercher.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: David81 on October 18, 2022, 01:08:10 AM
I just watched Dawson's 99-yard TD run. Spectacular. It's tragic that they squandered the energy of one of the greatest single plays in program history.  :o
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: ProudCrusader on October 18, 2022, 12:33:16 PM
It was Vercher who muffed it...twice...they kicked away from Maxwell all day.
Title: Re: Week 6 Butler
Post by: valpofb16 on October 18, 2022, 01:10:38 PM
That's on staff for not having Becton back there who actually is the sure handed punt returner on the second muffed kick.

Talking to some other alum the Seewald / Appel situation is starting to look a little similar. Preseason shoulder injury , starts bud does not finish a few games. Hopefully not what we have on our hands as Jimmy was never the same