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Recruiting: 2020

Started by VU2014, October 26, 2017, 03:14:16 PM

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VULB#62

#25
Ok, understand.  Another parallel is how AAU players recruit each other at times.  The Alec/Jubril class was like that. 

crusader05

Also, not just kids but the parents matter too. I know that Walker's family loved how supportive Valpo was and that can factor in as well if they can say that the school treated their kid well.

VUGrad1314

That's one thing I hope this program never loses: that family ethos. It's another reason why I love that we're in the MVC the conference itself operates like a family. That's one advantage we may have over these bigger schools: for all their money and resources do they still know how to make a recruit feel wanted needed valued and respected?

M

I know Valpo hasn't really done this in the past, but I wonder with all the scholarships that will be open for the 2020 class if Valpo will offer more kids earlier then they typically would.

VU2014

Quote from: M on May 03, 2018, 12:12:24 PM
I know Valpo hasn't really done this in the past, but I wonder with all the scholarships that will be open for the 2020 class if Valpo will offer more kids earlier then they typically would.

We may be headed that direction of offering kids earlier in their HS careers then the Drew family did. Valpo offered Alex Hemenway before his Junior year and same with Marcus Watson, Jr. recently.

Just looked it up and North Pole Hoops ranks: Coleman Stucke #7 in class of 2020 Canada and Luka Sakota #14 in class of 2020. Stucke looked like a stud if you watched highlights. Caution they were just highlights but you could see the tools and that sweet shooting stroke with that type of size and length.

For whatever it's worth:
-Daniel Sackey was ranked #16 in the class of 2018
-Tevonn Walker was ranked #15 in the class of 2014

VUGrad1314

Rankings projecting this far out  don't mean a lot to me because they can change so much but it would appear that we have a shot at Sakota. I'd think we should consider offering early here especially with Stucke.

VU2014

https://twitter.com/teamyandr/status/1001922148506710017

Keshawn Williams
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 160
Hometown: Chicago Heights, IL
High School: Bloom High School
Offers: UIC, Hampton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9_wbVb1Doc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyGrTgDO-5w

bbtds

This is the graduation class where our vision must be clear.

This reminds me of the University of Maryland Optometry School student who is graduating in 2020. She said you wouldn't believe how many that go to the UM Optometry School are the son/daughter of an optometrist and there is huge pressure for that class to really stand out on the charts of graduating classes. Not just the top of the class but the not-so-accomplished students at the bottom of the chart who don't stand out as much.

valpopal

#33
New 2020 offer: Phillip Russell 5'10" PG from St. Louis to go with the offer to Marcus Watson, another 5'10" PG.

VU2014

#34
Quote from: valpopal on June 14, 2018, 10:52:13 PM
New 2020 offer: Phillip Russell 5'10" PG from St. Louis to go with the offer to Marcus Watson, another 5'10" PG.

https://twitter.com/phill_x2/status/1007364302389633025

http://verbalcommits.com/players/phillip-russell

Phillip Russell
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 5-10
Weight: 140
Hometown: St Louis, MO
High School: Vashon High School
Rank: NA
Offers: Valpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjOjHfSXQpA&t=5s

M

So is he 5'10" or 6'3"???

VU2014

Quote from: M on June 15, 2018, 08:41:50 AM
So is he 5'10" or 6'3"???

It looks like he's grown since his verbal commits profile was created. The general rule of thumb is to subtract an inch or two from whatever the athlete lists his height at.

valpopal

Quote from: M on June 15, 2018, 08:41:50 AM
So is he 5'10" or 6'3"???


Apparently, the clip posted is "fake news"! Valpo offered the 5'10" Russell. The 6'3" Russell is from Florida.


VU2014

#39
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.

vu72

Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.

The answers are the Oppland boys and yes.
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wh

Quote from: vu72 on June 15, 2018, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.

The answers are the Oppland boys and yes.


Mike Nelke 2000-2002. Home town - St. Louis. Transferred after 2 years to SE Missouri State.

http://gosoutheast.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/nelke_mike00.html

wh

Quote from: wh on June 15, 2018, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 15, 2018, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.

The answers are the Oppland boys and yes.


Mike Nelke 2000-2002. Home town - St. Louis. Transferred after 2 years to SE Missouri State.

http://gosoutheast.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/nelke_mike00.html


Mike Nelke is a high school coach in suburban StLouis. Following is a short interview with Mike, in which he speaks in glowing terms about his sophomore year at Valpo:

https://ritenourlive.org/3791/krhs/rhs-sports-weekly-meet-the-new-varsity-basketball-coach/


IrishDawg

I'm sure VU2014 is all over this, but starting at 12:01 this morning, coaches can make unlimited calls and texts to 2020 recruits, so I'm sure Valpo's coaches have been reaching out to prospects today.

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: IrishDawg on June 15, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
I'm sure VU2014 is all over this, but starting at 12:01 this morning, coaches can make unlimited calls and texts to 2020 recruits, so I'm sure Valpo's coaches have been reaching out to prospects today.

Was this a change in recruiting rules?

IrishDawg

Quote from: FieldGoodie05 on June 15, 2018, 07:59:32 PM
Quote from: IrishDawg on June 15, 2018, 02:13:22 PM
I'm sure VU2014 is all over this, but starting at 12:01 this morning, coaches can make unlimited calls and texts to 2020 recruits, so I'm sure Valpo's coaches have been reaching out to prospects today.

Was this a change in recruiting rules?

Fairly recently (changed in 2012).  Old rule was you could only call or text a recruit once a month between June 15th after their Sophomore year through July 31 after their Junior year.

valpotx

Nelke was a player that got some good run as a FR and SO.  I was surprised when he transferred. 
"Don't mess with Texas"

bbtds

Quote from: wh on June 15, 2018, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: wh on June 15, 2018, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: vu72 on June 15, 2018, 11:44:30 AM
Quote from: VU2014 on June 15, 2018, 10:46:18 AM
I wonder if we can tap into that Missouri recruiting market now that we're in the MVC and Arch Madness being in STL. I know that our staff has checked out Mario Mckinney who is a high profile Top 100 recruit within the last year and is high school teammates with Phillip Russell. When was the last time we landed a kid from Missouri? I can't remember one in recent history.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't their a large Lutheran population in Missouri? Maybe the University could tap into that market a little more now that we're in the MVC.

The answers are the Oppland boys and yes.


Mike Nelke 2000-2002. Home town - St. Louis. Transferred after 2 years to SE Missouri State.

http://gosoutheast.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/nelke_mike00.html


Mike Nelke is a high school coach in suburban StLouis. Following is a short interview with Mike, in which he speaks in glowing terms about his sophomore year at Valpo:

https://ritenourlive.org/3791/krhs/rhs-sports-weekly-meet-the-new-varsity-basketball-coach/


Interesting. My uncle was the girls golf coach at that school. But he retired I'm sure before Mike got there.

VU2014

#48
Javon Freeman-Liberty's high school teammate is visiting campus on Wednesday. Tyler Beard is widely considered one of the top players from the Illinois 2020 class. He's getting high major interest. He's also going to be visiting UIC & Butler this week. His recruitment has started to pick the last few weeks.

https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/1008753015346683904
https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/1008752964264026112

Tyler Beard
Status: Undecided
Year: 2020 (HS SO)
Position: PG
Height: 6-0
Weight: NA
Hometown: Chicago, IL
High School: Whitney M. Young Magnet High School
Rank:
-Rivals: 4 star
Offers: UIC, Florida Atlantic, DePaul, Iowa
http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/tyler-beard

https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/1005566765907218433
Ten prospects who are unranked but rising after spring session
Eric Bossi, Corey Evans and Dan McDonald
Rivals.com


.....

Tyler Beard:

Why he's on the rise: He has shown tremendous progressions on the ball as a capable playmaker that can create for others and himself. The definition of a competitor, Beard brings a blue-collared work ethic to the court along with a two-way approach that has him on the cusp of a national ranking in a few weeks. Known for his mid-range scoring, Beard can now facilitate a half-court offense, defend both guard spots, and finish in traffic.

Who is involved? DePaul and Iowa remain the lone power program offers.

.....

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/ten-prospects-who-are-unranked-but-rising-after-spring-session

https://twitter.com/coreyevans_10/status/1005892104403464192
https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/1005582351508869120
https://twitter.com/NorthernXPreps/status/1006952565785944065

Nike Elite 100: Takeaways from day three
By: EVAN DANIELS AND BRIAN SNOW
Jun 10, 7:53 AM


.....

Tyler Beard raises stock
An underclassmen camp like the Nike Elite 100 gives lesser known players an opportunity to raise their stock against some of the top players in their class.

Although Beard, a 6-foot guard out of Chicago (Ill.) Whitney Young, had already built a reputation, his performance during the first three days of Elite 100 moved the needle. Beard impressed with his decision, consistently making the right play, which is even more notable during a camp setting. Beard showed a nice blend of facilitating and scoring, while also competing and disrupting things on the defensive end.

At this point, Beard has offered from a pair of high major schools – DePaul and Iowa – but if this weekend's performance was any indication that list is sure to grow in the near future.

..... https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Nike-Elite-100-Takeaways-from-day-three-118930539

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVZeWArKzfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noSahdJzijI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5BMqLvMptU

FieldGoodie05

Remains to be seen, but can this staff successfully recruit anyone over 6'6"? 

Fazekas, ok maybe because he was recruited before he went out of region is the case I present.  So pre Lottich.

Sorolla, I still consider a Drew recruit who possibly followed Jackie Emanuel who is no longer at VU.

I'm sure to be countered here, welcome input.