Transfers

[vu72]

Where did Goodnews and Robinson end up at? I think I missed hearing where they landed. Just wondering with school starting in a few weeks. 

He hasn't landed yet.  So have A LOT of others.

[elephtheria47]

Kinda like the draft...players only see the green grass on the other side. Lots of good players with wrong info who will be left without a seat this year.

[justducky]

He hasn't landed yet.  So have A LOT of others.

Lots of good players with wrong info who will be left without a seat this year.

I don't remember all the details but it sounded like immediate eligibility might only be available if he transferred down below D-1. That would truly be a case of painting yourself into a corner. 

[VU2014]

https://twitter.com/verbalcommits/status/1425160884066742274?s=21

[valpotx]

Hopefully he gets what he needs in the next stop.  No ill feelings towards Goodnews.  He just saw all of the talent coming in, and lost his place.

[vu72]

Hopefully he gets what he needs in the next stop.  No ill feelings towards Goodnews.  He just saw all of the talent coming in, and lost his place.

Hopefully.  It is his FIFTH stop since high school and he is still at a JUCO.

[bbtds]

I don't remember all the details but it sounded like immediate eligibility might only be available if he transferred down below D-1.

https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/status/1425160884066742274?s=20



Why sit now? Might as well play at a JUCO instead of just sitting out basketball.

[tjjvalpo]

Over 400 players still without schools of which about 300 are underclassmen. Next year maybe more players will think twice before entering the transfer portal.

[crusader05]

In looking back through this thread by this time last year we had 3 players in the portal with 2 more to join in the next two days. We were also posting about other players from the MVC teams joining.

Be interested to see how this year shakes out both for us and other MVC teams or if a lot of players felt a "it's now or never" moment last year and pulled the trigger maybe a year early.

Haven't heard any rumblings about anyone leaving yet but also haven't been around anyone who would know.

[vu72]

In looking back through this thread by this time last year we had 3 players in the portal with 2 more to join in the next two days. We were also posting about other players from the MVC teams joining.

Be interested to see how this year shakes out both for us and other MVC teams or if a lot of players felt a "it's now or never" moment last year and pulled the trigger maybe a year early.

Haven't heard any rumblings about anyone leaving yet but also haven't been around anyone who would know.

Right now there are 218 names in the portal with Evansville, UIC, Murray, Missouri State and Indiana State all with one.  The one for Indiana State is Tyreke Key.  As an aside, JO may be in for another big shuffle at Lipscomb now has four in the portal already.

https://www.verbalcommits.com/transfers/2022

[David81]

I just think the whole transfer portal craze is so damn sad for college basketball, except for the few blessed programs that don't have to compete for transfers or fear losing current key players.

I don't know if anyone has done a study of successful vs. unsuccessful transfer outcomes, from both the players' and the colleges' perspectives. I wouldn't be surprised if the players experience a net benefit on the whole, but many suffer deep disappointments, and overall it comes at the expense of the culture and continuity of the college game.

[humbleopinion]

My thinking about transfers has been evolving.  If you think back over the years, there have been around three Valpo players each year who had not worked out and were counseled to find a situation where they would find playing time.  For those players, it's nice that they don't have to sit out a year, and it makes an easier argument for the coaches.  The resulting open scholarships allow the team to bring recruits (perhaps from the transfer portal) who can bolster the lineup. When you think of it, for all of the hand-wringing last year, that was the case for all of the transfers other than Donovan and possibly JO (even though JO couldn't find a starting position on 272nd ranked Lipscomb), and Donovan's attitude was toxic in the locker room.

After the tournament, the team separates to go on spring break where they can spend time with friends and family.  For team members like Sheldon who cannot see their family during the school year due to distance, it might be tough to envision another year with such distance.  When school starts again, the coaches will have time to conduct post-season interviews with each player, and it would be at that meeting that they may be shown greener pastures elsewhere by the staff. I'm sure that the coaches are keeping an eye on the portal for opportunities to put a better team on the floor next year.

[vu72]

Does not appear that the transfer option is slowing down as there are already 377 in the portal. Nothing new from the Valley schools.  Several schools are in free fall with 4 and 5 transfers already.

https://verbalcommits.com/transfers/2022

[humbleopinion]

From what I can figure from reading this thread from last year, by this date at least four Valpo players had entered the portal, Donovan entered on the 16th, and JO a week later. I would guess that at the end of spring break there will be meetings with the coaches, and I wonder if any of the team members will be counseled out.  It would be nice to be able to have another slot or two to upgrade the roster.

[crusadermoe]

Whether it helps or hurts individual players I know that it damaged my level of interest in the games.  I only knew Ben Krikke from the prior year.  And I watched a grand total of 2 non-tournament games.  And then watched just the quarters vs. Mo State. I can't speak for others.  Maybe the new guys were better than the last ones.  But I didn't feel connected.  Or maybe I was just busier.

[tjjvalpo]

Crusadermoe, I know what you are saying, this was the first time in 25 years that I didn't get there early or stay late for Senior Night.

[vu72]

Now seven Valley players in the portal with the big news being that Shamar Givance from Evansville now in.  He was clearly the leader on an already bad team.

[tjn2004]

For the level of the typical athlete in the MVC and any other Mid Major, I've never understood the appeal of the transfer portal.  The typical transfer isn't going to go pro, that's just a fact.  The number of schools where transferring actually could turn you into a lottery pick can be counted on your fingers with probably a few left over.  So why would you not stay where you're most likely to get an education to make you successful afterwards?  In that regard, VU should be just about at "blue chip" level.  Unfortunately, alot of these young men don't have realistic expectations for life, and have bad influences in their ears...

[humbleopinion]

Spring break is over, and students have returned to campus. I would presume that starting today team members will have meetings with the coaches. I would not be surprised to see a couple players being counseled to look for a situation in which they will get playing time.

I'm not going to speculate about who would be included in the group who will be told to face reality, but I would not be surprised to see a couple names in the portal by the end of the week.

[crusader05]

Be interesting to see what happens. It feels like we may have avoided the masse exodus issue of last year but it's still early.

[VUSupport]

Ones that I could see go into the Portal:

Barrett
Palesse
Young

[humbleopinion]

Illinois State is losing Antonio Reeves to the portal.  That hurts for the Redbirds...

[vok22]

Sheldon and Keyondre in the portal. Can't wait for Lottich to replace them with 2 high major transfers just to continue sucking.

[elephtheria47]

It starts..

[NativeCheesehead]

I put this graphic on the board awhile back and it has held true to form.