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Lottich's Contract

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valpotx

#25
Quote from: Valpo2013 on February 21, 2020, 12:35:05 PM
Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on February 21, 2020, 10:29:42 AM
Declining attendance and now having to do buy one one free on a Saturday night game with no snow in the forecast or holidays or breaks???????

And again on Tuesday. All that chatter last year about improving the game day experience and garnering more student interest.

Did you all see Erik Bugg's recent social media post from when he played???!!!???

The student section was packed! The stands were packed! We were onto March Madness.

My oh my how we've fallen into a state of mediocrity. We celebrate moral victories and gauge the "improvement" of our team on .... dogging out of routine deficits we never should be in on such a constant basis? All with a pathetic attendance ... dwindling pep band .... and hardly existent student section.

There's no interest
Not just Valparaiso
Everywhere
Young people would rather be "doing " not watching
Especially at middle of the road places
Heck -power 5 conferences have attendance issues

Seriously, man?  You believe that this youngest generation wants to be 'doers,' when all they do is watch Twitch and other folks actually doing stuff on YouTube?  Experiencing things from watching others do stuff, is not 'doing' anything.  Come on, man.  It is more the fear of sunlight that keeps them from going outside, or being away from a connected device 24/7 lol.
"Don't mess with Texas"

usc4valpo

I am trying to figure out Lottich and his coaching and His coaching performance, but after going to the Drake game, Valpo needs to make the game day experience more entertaining. Have some entertaining halftime events, do some goofy things during time outs, get a bazooka and launch t shirts, make it a more engaging environment for students and fans to attend. Drake does a decent job regarding this. Perhaps serve beer at the games in a responsible manner. Guys, this certainly doable.

oklahomamick

Yes Tex, most of Oklahoma's roster are Texans.  Being the state only has 4 million people, Oklahoma sits behind Dfw metro in terms of population.  But is able to get a recruiting class not at as good as UT with a smaller budget and still be a better program.  That's kind of what I'm getting at.

There are programs with large resources who under achieve and are known for it.  (Texas and Michigan)

There are programs with very small resources who over achieve and are known for it (Murray state and once upon a time valpo).
CRUSADERS!!!

oklahomamick

There is a popular NCAA columnist who I forgot his name and I'm sure you guys will know.  He will tweet from time to time.

"Furman beats Clemson in a buy game, Clemsons budget is 4 times that of furmans". The epitome of do more with less. 
CRUSADERS!!!

GoldenCrusader87

#29
Wouldn't suggest watching Baylor vs Kansas, which is about to start. It's not a sell-out and tickets - per College Game Day - aren't going for upwards of $900. It's not a whiteout. There's no energy. Student section isn't remotely full. It's happening all over the country after all.

AND BAYLOR'S COACH CERTAINLY ISNT PART OF THE DREW FAMILY AND NEVER COSCHED AT VALPO HAHA

jsher3141

Quote from: usc4valpo on February 22, 2020, 08:03:01 AM
I am trying to figure out Lottich and his coaching and His coaching performance, but after going to the Drake game, Valpo needs to make the game day experience more entertaining. Have some entertaining halftime events, do some goofy things during time outs, get a bazooka and launch t shirts, make it a more engaging environment for students and fans to attend. Drake does a decent job regarding this. Perhaps serve beer at the games in a responsible manner. Guys, this certainly doable.
Whoever is in charge of the game day experience at Valpo needs to travel to all the away games at the other schools in the Valley. See how they do things. Get some ideas. So many things other schools are doing are either sponsored, or completely free.

At Loyola, they literally had baby races across the court at halftime. Zero cost.  And the crowd loved it. Enough of the "we can't afford it" BS. We don't need to pay for halftime entertainment for it to be entertaining.

Valpo advertised a student section check in system/app last summer to encourage more students at games. Check in, and earn points and prizes. And there has been ZERO mention of the program at games. Either it didn't work out or they are neglecting to advertise it. Again, Loyola uses student attendance, and gives out priority housing selection for next year. Cost them zero dollars.

If the atmosphere isn't here, student athletes are going to go play somewhere else. No one wants to play in an empty, quiet, high school gym.


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Just Sayin

#31
Coaches Hired in the same year as Matt Lottich and their W-L% to date since hire date. Ranked by best W-L%
            

QuoteCareer at Current School         
   Coach             School   Conference  Since   W   L   W-L%
                     ▼
1   Chris Beard   Texas Tech   Big 12   2016-17   93   40   0.699
2   Scott Nagy   Wright State   Horizon   2016-17   89   42   0.679
3   Kyle Keller   Stephen F. Austin   Southland   2016-17   83   41   0.669
4   Johnny Dawkins   UCF   AAC   2016-17   81   45   0.643
5   Rick Stansbury   Western Kentucky   CUSA   2016-17   80   50   0.615
6   Ryan Odom   UMBC   AEC   2016-17   80   51   0.611
7   Jeff Linder   Northern Colorado   Big Sky   2016-17   76   49   0.608
8   Jamie Dixon   TCU   Big 12   2016-17   82   53   0.607
9   Ray Harper   Jacksonville State   OVC   2016-17   78   54   0.591
10   Rob Ehsan   Alabama-Birmingham   CUSA   2016-17   73   55   0.57
11   Travis Ford   Saint Louis   A-10   2016-17   71   58   0.55
12   Matt Lottich   Valparaiso   MVC   2016-17   68   58   0.54
13   Jerod Haase   Stanford   Pac-12   2016-17   65   58   0.528
14   Martin Ingelsby   Delaware   CAA   2016-17   64   63   0.504
15   Herb Sendek   Santa Clara   WCC   2016-17   62   61   0.504
16   Reggie Witherspoon   Canisius   MAAC   2016-17   63   62   0.504
17   Steve Pikiell   Rutgers   Big Ten   2016-17   62   63   0.496
18   Steve Henson   UTSA   CUSA   2016-17   63   64   0.496
19   Josh Pastner   Georgia Tech   ACC   2016-17   61   66   0.48
20   Damon Stoudamire   Pacific   WCC   2016-17   59   67   0.468
21   Brian Kennedy   NJIT   A-Sun   2016-17   55   67   0.451
22   Lew Hill   Texas-Rio Grande Valley   WAC   2016-17   57   71   0.445
23   Allen Edwards   Wyoming   MWC   2016-17   57   73   0.438
24   Jimmy Allen   Army   Patriot   2016-17   52   68   0.433
25   Anthony Stewart   UT-Martin   OVC   2016-17   52   71   0.423
26   Preston Spradlin   Morehead State   OVC   2016-17   45   66   0.405
27   Todd Simon   Southern Utah   Big Sky   2016-17   50   75   0.4
28   Zach Spiker   Drexel   CAA   2016-17   48   77   0.384
29   Rodney Billups   Denver   Summit   2016-17   45   73   0.381
30   Brian Earl   Cornell   Ivy   2016-17   40   70   0.364
31   Louis Rowe   James Madison   CAA   2016-17   43   81   0.347
32   Jim Engles   Columbia   Ivy   2016-17   35   72   0.327
33   David McLaughlin   Dartmouth   Ivy   2016-17   35   73   0.324
34   Terry Porter   Portland   WCC   2016-17   37   88   0.296
35   Donyell Marshall   Central Connecticut   NEC   2016-17   35   86   0.289

W-L%
Average: 0.487685714
Median:   0.496


oklahomamick

Looks like a lot of the programs ahead of Lottich are used to winning.  Looks like a lot of the programs below Lottich are used to losing.  Is Valpo used to winning or losing?  I forgot.
CRUSADERS!!!

truth219

Consider this...if you took a poll from students and season ticket holders about this coach getting an extension...i dont think he would  get one...the section my family and I sit in are not big fans of coach lottich. That is based on product on the floor, his post game comments,and  interactions in the community

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valpotx

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 22, 2020, 09:09:44 AM
Yes Tex, most of Oklahoma's roster are Texans.  Being the state only has 4 million people, Oklahoma sits behind Dfw metro in terms of population.  But is able to get a recruiting class not at as good as UT with a smaller budget and still be a better program.  That's kind of what I'm getting at.

There are programs with large resources who under achieve and are known for it.  (Texas and Michigan)

There are programs with very small resources who over achieve and are known for it (Murray state and once upon a time valpo).

Yeah, you just be a good Oklahoman and bask in the glory that is your southern superior.  Good boy, Oklahoman, good boy ;)
"Don't mess with Texas"

GoldenCrusader87

#35
take away his first year with peters and 24 of those wins are out. Post-Peters Era: 44 wins & 49 losses...

oklahomamick

Tex again you missing the point. 
CRUSADERS!!!

GoldenCrusader87

Take away Matt's first year with Peters & Co. - aka Bryce's players - and he DOES NOT have a winning record. 44-49 or something like that. 24 of his wins have been during the Peters era. And, how many of those wins are non-conference?....

Consider this:

16/17 = 24-9 & 14-4 in conference.
17/19 = 15-17 & 6-12 in conference.
18/19 = 15-18 & 7-11 in conference.
19/20 = 14-14 & 7-8 in conference (so far).

Total conference wins in (4) seasons to date = 34.
Total conference wins in (3) seasons to date in MVC = 20.
Total losses in (3) seasons to date in MVC = 31.
Total winning seasons in (4) seasons to date = 1 (with Peters & Bryce's Recruits)

vu72

Quote from: GoldenCrusader87 on February 22, 2020, 03:13:26 PM
take away his first year with peters and 24 of those wins are out. Post-Peters Era: 44 wins & 49 losses...

Which player are you going to take away from Bryce's record?  How about Homer's?  Statistics can be molded to whatever you want them to be.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

oklahomamick

I get what your saying Vu72, but those weren't lottich's players.  Actually being the 3rd assistant I doubt Matt had very much to do with their recruiting. 
CRUSADERS!!!

truth219

What concerns me about lottich is player retention. History tells us we're going to lose players this off season. Either players looking for more prestigious school or just an opportunity to play. Marten Linssen comes to mind and he  had potential. I would hate to lose Villien or Lorange.

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valpotx

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 22, 2020, 03:24:23 PM
Tex again you missing the point. 

No, I am not.  I just like berating Oklahomans :)
"Don't mess with Texas"

FieldGoodie05

Quote from: truth219 on February 22, 2020, 03:48:06 PM
What concerns me about lottich is player retention. History tells us we're going to lose players this off season. Either players looking for more prestigious school or just an opportunity to play. Marten Linssen comes to mind and he  had potential. I would hate to lose Villien or Lorange.

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Anyone else like to see Zion Morgan get starters minutes?

truth219

It would be hard to make rotation changes this late in the season

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justducky

Quote from: truth219 on February 22, 2020, 03:48:06 PMI would hate to lose Villien or Lorange.

I haven't seen enough floor time to be strongly impressed by either. Like Linssen both might see a better opportunity to vote with their feet by moving on. Player retention is important but less so when those players are projects.

M

What have you seen from those two freshmen that makes you say you'd hate to see them leave?

Personally I'd be indifferent. Idk what they can or can't do. I like the overwhelming majority of the team this year, but realistically there's what 4 (maybe) guys who aren't seniors that I'd have a hard time accepting them leaving. But that's all offseason talk. Time to leave for the game!

vu72

Quote from: oklahomamick on February 22, 2020, 03:41:22 PM
I get what your saying Vu72, but those weren't lottich's players.  Actually being the 3rd assistant I doubt Matt had very much to do with their recruiting. 

I guess it  is another plus for Matt even though I suspect that he was heavily involved in their recruitment as he was on Bryce's staff for three years.

My point is that statistics can say what you want them to say--I'll give another example: Homer Drew was 95-80 in his last five years at the helm.  Three of those five he went 37-54. Two of them were 24-39.  I don't recall anyone calling for Homer's head--and let's not think about Homer's first five!

Let's just see how the rest of the year, and probably next play out.
Season Results: CBI/CIT: 2008, 2011, 2014  NIT: 2003,2012, 2016(Championship Game) 2017   NCAA: 1962,1966,1967,1969,1973,1996,1997,1998 (Sweet Sixteen),1999, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2013 and 2015

Valpo89

Quote from: truth219 on February 22, 2020, 03:48:06 PM
I would hate to lose Villien or Lorange.




Why?
If Steve Helm returns from his Mormon trip, I'll take him every day over Siggy.

oklahomamick

Homer took over valpo with 10 years of a non winning record.  Lottich took over a program straight off a NIT runner up championship.  Not to mention all the previous years of conference championships and NCAAT appearances.

Horrible comparison.
CRUSADERS!!!

GoldenCrusader87

6 minutes into the second half and still no Gordon - you know ... the guy who couldn't miss from 3 except 1 time in which he got fouled. Yet another reason why ...