Like last year, this is a bucket for miscellaneous football postings that don't necessarily have a traditional home (like spring ball, game threads, recruiting etc.)
I lurk around the PFL board infrequently and this thread, "Guess Who Spends The Most On Football?" caught my eye. I copied some posts for us to check out. Interesting that Valpo added over $210K to the budget in one year an went from #9 in 2016 to #6. BUDawg's comment about Davidson and Stetson in 2016 says something as does daytonstrong's assesment of Dayton spending. That is significant for us as Coach Fox came over to Valpo from Dayton. His comments put any complaints we have about our program into a perspective, no?
(2016) expenses-men's teams/football
Davidson $1,868,902
Stetson 1,838,277
San Diego 1,328,169
Jacksonville 1,303,640
Dayton 1,292,135
Marist 1,281,009
Morehead St. 1,031,156
Drake 1,028,182
Valparaiso 1,108,158
Butler 847,654
source: ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/
BUDawg:
WOW! Imagine if Butler spent like another quarter of a million...We could buy some more PFL co-titles instead of runner-up/middle of the pack finishes, LOL. But to have your two worst teams spend the most...OUCH!
(2017) Expenses/football
Stetson $1,742,010
San Diego $1,654,049
Davidson $1,636,720
Marist $1,381,490
Jacksonville $1,360,507
Valparaiso $1,320,503
Dayton $1,196,630
Morehead State $1,176,172
Drake $1,054,139
Butler $912,878
daytonstrong:
Thought for sure Dayton would be at the bottom - Catholic institution, run down Welcome Stadium facilities, recycled uniforms, recycled equipment and zero promotion from University administration. To top it off, the boys don't get any of the cool branded swag the other teams in the conference get (Riddell helmet wraps, Flyer branded backpacks, Nike gloves, etc.). It's clear Dayton is a "basketball" school and that's where the investment goes.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 23, 2019, 11:34:24 AMIt's clear Dayton is a "basketball" school and that's where the investment goes.
The same could be said of Valpo, Davidson, Drake and Butler.
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 23, 2019, 11:34:24 AMLike last year, this is a bucket for miscellaneous football postings that don't necessarily have a traditional home (like spring ball, game threads, recruiting etc.) I lurk around the PFL board infrequently and this thread, "Guess Who Spends The Most On Football?" caught my eye. I copied some posts for us to check out. Interesting that Valpo added over $210K to the budget in one year an went from #9 in 2016 to #6. BUDawg's comment about Davidson and Stetson in 2016 says something as does daytonstrong's assesment of Dayton spending. That is significant for us as Coach Fox came over to Valpo from Dayton. His comments put any complaints we have about our program into a perspective, no? (2016) expenses-men's teams/football Davidson $1,868,902 Stetson 1,838,277 San Diego 1,328,169 Jacksonville 1,303,640 Dayton 1,292,135 Marist 1,281,009 Morehead St. 1,031,156 Drake 1,028,182 Valparaiso 1,108,158 Butler 847,654 source: ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/ BUDawg: WOW! Imagine if Butler spent like another quarter of a million...We could buy some more PFL co-titles instead of runner-up/middle of the pack finishes, LOL. But to have your two worst teams spend the most...OUCH! (2017) Expenses/football Stetson $1,742,010 San Diego $1,654,049 Davidson $1,636,720 Marist $1,381,490 Jacksonville $1,360,507 Valparaiso $1,320,503 Dayton $1,196,630 Morehead State $1,176,172 Drake $1,054,139 Butler $912,878 daytonstrong: Thought for sure Dayton would be at the bottom - Catholic institution, run down Welcome Stadium facilities, recycled uniforms, recycled equipment and zero promotion from University administration. To top it off, the boys don't get any of the cool branded swag the other teams in the conference get (Riddell helmet wraps, Flyer branded backpacks, Nike gloves, etc.). It's clear Dayton is a "basketball" school and that's where the investment goes.
The stadium used by Stetson is a municipal stadium owned (I think) by the county. So they may have additional costs that the on-campus stadiums I think the rest of the league has.
A question brought up by Lurkingdog from Drake as well.
Quote from: vu72 on March 23, 2019, 12:39:38 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on March 23, 2019, 11:34:24 AMIt's clear Dayton is a "basketball" school and that's where the investment goes.
The same could be said of Valpo, Davidson, Drake and Butler.
BB is certainly first at Davidson, and still a major budget for football. That, despite futility for years.
If we dumped an additional half mill into FB annually, do ya think we could buy a PFL chamionship? I'm scratching my head trying to think where that kind of money would go given that things like a new grandstand and pressbox would be a capital project and not part of an annual budget. We already fly to most distant away games. We've already updated the weight facility and locker rooms. Maybe bump up the recruiting budget, but that wouldn't be that great a hit on the budget.
I'm curious as to where the extra half mil Davidson spends is going...and that's over most programs in the PFL. At one time Davidson had an alumnus who provided a plane to move the football team around. I don't know whether that is still in existence. Maybe there are financing costs to a facilities upgrade at some point?
Quote from: JD24 on March 24, 2019, 12:54:45 PM
I'm curious as to where the extra half mil Davidson spends is going...and that's over most programs in the PFL. At one time Davidson had an alumnus who provided a plane to move the football team around. I don't know whether that is still in existence. Maybe there are financing costs to a facilities upgrade at some point?
Me too 24. In our PFL world there js just so much you can spend money on.
I looked at the ope link provided by 62 and found it interesting that both Stetson and Davidson allocated for 1 Head Coach and 9 full time assistants while Valpo allocated for 1 Head Coach and 4 Full Time and 4 Part Time Assistants.
Whether this has changed the last couple of years, I'm not sure. These were the only programs I looked at. Stetson's game day expense is more than $300,000 over both Davidson and Valpo's which were similar. As I mentioned, maybe Stetson is paying to rent a facility while the others have their facility on campus.
Sounds about right. Our gain could account for a DC pay increase but certainly only in part — perhaps assistant increases and more money in the travel budget for recruiting.
https://twitter.com/FBSchedules/status/1115732771027210243
Full schedule is in this thread:
https://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3399.0
Quote from: JD24 on April 10, 2019, 01:44:06 PM
Full schedule is in this thread:
https://www.valpofanzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=3399.0
Something isn't correct. Valpo's Homecoming is Sept 28. I don't think we are going for a soccer game!
Dayton is the only game non confirmed it will either be on 10/12 or 9/28. If 9/28 is homecoming then it appears Fox's first Homecoming game will be against his prior home.
Tad ironic
This will give Valpo a bye between @Drake and @San Diego. No complaints there
Hadn't noticed the open week of Sept 28th (at this point). That means either adding another bye or another game....to make 12.
Quote from: valpofb16 on April 10, 2019, 02:57:16 PMDayton is the only game non confirmed it will either be on 10/12 or 9/28
Dayton's football schedule on line shows the Valpo game on 10/12... but they have no game scheduled for 9/28... so...
All of our homecoming advertising says 9/28 is our homecoming...but none of the details are included...
Dayton's football schedule has been "officially" announced and, no matter how you slice it, Valpo would have two bye's this season if another game is not scheduled. So maybe there's another game to be announced. That doesn't mean that Dayton can't change their schedule but it's also not like Valpo didn't know when Homecoming was.
Quote from: JD24 on April 11, 2019, 05:26:52 PM
Dayton's football schedule has been "officially" announced and, no matter how you slice it, Valpo would have two bye's this season if another game is not scheduled. So maybe there's another game to be announced. That doesn't mean that Dayton can't change their schedule but it's also not like Valpo didn't know when Homecoming was.
So now what? If Valpo has to schedule the Little Sisters of the Poor they are going to look really stupid to the Alumni.
Some info on a couple of sites have Valpo playing Malone on Sept 28th. Malone has subsequently dropped the sport. So Valpo is likely looking for an opponent.
As a football alum I just got an email from Landon Fox summarizing his experience so far this year as the new HC, what he has instituted so far and his appraisal of where the program is at this point. He's saying all the right stuff. Sorry, unable to add the full text or a link.
VULB#62 I too received an email and came away very impressed with the following
1: It has been said here before but Alex Curtis being an S&C coach dedicated to football will be huge
2: The players still on the roster survived a condense 3 week winter season with 6am workouts 4/5 week days. Kudos to those who remain
3: Each recruit is assigned a "big brother" on the team, increasing family mentality hopefully reducing attrition
4: IDP (Individual Development Plans) for each player on the roster, HUGE
5: Study tables for anyone under a 3.0, career focused
6: Recruiting a 6 hour radius with California, Texas, And Florida being a focus (no drop off from previous staff)
7: 30! kids staying on campus in year one of Fox's tenure, and only looking for improved numbers (This would be improved from Carlson and early Cecchini)
Valpo Football is in good hands
Saw coach Fox at graduation mingling with many of the student athletes. He certainly looked engaged and at easy in his new environment. I know it is very early, but I think this could be a very good hire.
I love the optimsm and progress - I also remember many folks on this board in in 2010 praising the hiring of Osteen. I hope this works.
I was not involved in Carlson hiring but if I may:
Fox is about family, linking together, hard work, and linking the alumni to the current program. Not once has he mentioned Olsteen quotes or anything in that ball park or brag about his defense.
Carlson on the other hand bragged about his top notch air raid offense, his ability to recruit and build powerhouse programs, used other coaches mantras and saying whenever he could.
I think I speak for a majority on the board when I say this is not the same situation. You are also reverting back 9 years. Let's be optimistic Fox did an outstanding job in his first spring.
Is Fox's outreach to the alums a new development for the program? Trying to put his actions into perspective. I have heard that he's been involved on campus getting to know people and very interested in holding his men accountable on the field and in the classroom and making sure he knows the resources for students so I view that as a positive mark on how he views his role as a leader for these men but I don't know too much about what is typical. I have also heard that he's been upping the ante in regards to expectations of the amount of work required to be a member of the team.
I like what I've heard and observed from Coach Fox. Potentially, I agree, that he could be a significant hire.
Any one have insight as to has how summer is going for Crusader football? Did hiring a full-time, football only, strength coach lead to more guys staying in Valpo and training together this summer? Seems like getting non-scholarship kids to stay in town and train together would be difficult, generally speaking.
FYI, Coach Fox just released to football alums the first of 5 summer communication to the team. He's setting some tough objectives for the players. He's pretty straight forward about dedication to goals and driving home a 3600 concept. Interesting: 3600 = the seconds in a football game and the number of inches in a football field. This guy is into finite detail it seems and I hope this carries over to game planning. I think he is gonna win over some minds in the VU locker room
I got the e-mail correspondence from Coach Fox which included the Summer conditioning test. I'm gonna train for about a month and a half and see if I can do it.
Quote from: VUOR63 on June 17, 2019, 11:51:10 AM
I got the e-mail correspondence from Coach Fox which included the Summer conditioning test. I'm gonna train for about a month and a half and see if I can do it.
I would if I could 🤪
For those of you who were wondering how the new turf will look, I have two observations: the colors are vibrant and the Valpo logo at midfield is big and impressive. The end zones will be devoid of graphics. The reason: Brown Field is a multipurpose playing surface that is also home to two soccer teams who each play more games on the surface than football. Graphics in the 18 yard box is a confusing factor, so graphics have been eliminated.
Now then ....... if the Porter property were to finally accommodate the proposed 30 year plan soccer stadium, Brown would be a football only field with a track around it and could easily handle some additional end zone graphics (and there would only be football lines).
I have driven on LaPorte Avenue each of the past two mornings at just after 7:30 a.m. Both days, I've seen a group of football players working out with an assistant coach - 10-15 players who appeared to be skill-position type of kids. They are running right on the old hospital property.
Some links to Twitter with solid Brown Field pics...
https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/1140663976881217536 (https://twitter.com/valpoathletics/status/1140663976881217536)
https://twitter.com/ValpoAD/status/1141462105046077441 (https://twitter.com/ValpoAD/status/1141462105046077441)
Valpo is not getting much love by the FCS press.
http://www.college-sports-journal.com/2019-ncaa-division-i-college-footbal-team-previews-valparaiso-crusaders/
2019 NCAA Division I College Football Team Previews: Valparaiso Crusaders
June 15, 2019
9th – PFL
116th – FCS
246th – D-I
Valparaiso Crusaders
Location: Valparaiso, IN
Coach: Landon Fox (0-0 1st Year at Valpo)
Stadium: Brown Stadium (Capacity: 5,000)
2018 In A Sentence: The Crusaders regressed to a 2-9 overall mark (2-6 PFL) after posting a 6-5 mark in 2017 and also lost its head coach Dave Cecchini in the offseason, who left to be the head man at Bucknell of the Patriot League.
Biggest Shoes to Fill: LB Drew Snouffer racked up 106 tackles last year, his third straight season of 100 tackles or more. He became just the second Valpo player in the last 25 years to enjoy three straight seasons with 100 tackles or more. He also led the PFL with 11.8 tackles per game, a mark that ranked sixth nationally in Division I FCS.
Key Player: Valpo may have regressed in the win column but it was not for a lack of talent on special teams. RS/WR Bailey Gessinger was recognized as an all-PFL second team for the third straight season. Gessinger enters his senior season with four career kickoff returns for touchdowns, one shy of tying a PFL record. Two of those returns came last season, allowing Gessinger to equal his own program watermark for kickoff return TDs in a single season with two. He also added another score receiving and 215 yards catching the ball.
Fearless Prediction: Former Coach Cecchini left rather late in the offseason–moving in late February and the Crusaders looked within a PFL rival in Dayton's 11-year defensive coordinator Landon Fox. Under Fox's wing, Dayton boasted the second-best scoring defense in the PFL in 2018. The Crusaders will need this kind of improvement (Valpo gave up 35.6 points/game last year) to better its two-win total but will have to do it with half of its starters (5 offense, 6 defense) lost from last year's team. Expect a similar season as last year with 2-3 victories.
New release on recent program/facility improvements to support the new staff and show commitment to going forward.
http://valpoathletics.com/football/news/2019-20/19158/clear-commitment-momentum-building-as-official-start-of-landon-fox-era-draws-nearer/
This will be a very interesting beginning to a new era. There are just so many unknowns.
New Commit: Ben Niesner transfer from Portland State, Punter 5-11 180 JR
Roster up to 104
Quote from: valpofb16 on June 27, 2019, 09:02:36 PMNew Commit: Ben Niesner transfer from Portland State, Punter 5-11 180 JR Roster up to 104
He was PSU's punter last season. Is he eligible?
Quote from: JD24 on June 28, 2019, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on June 27, 2019, 09:02:36 PMNew Commit: Ben Niesner transfer from Portland State, Punter 5-11 180 JR Roster up to 104
He was PSU's punter last season. Is he eligible?
He's the back end of the Golder deal. Lottich was only kidding when he asked the Vikings if they could throw in a punter.
They really could use a new press box and get into the new millennium.
JD24 in short yes Niesner will be eligible and punting in our first game, Purty will be too
Explanation: when transferring from scholarship to non scholarship FCS you are immediately eligible, however if transferring from D2 (scholly) to FCS non scholarship you have to sit out one season. Same with D3.
This does not really make any relative sense but it is what it is
I forget his name, but we had a Punter do the same thing while I was in school, going from Colorado State to Valpo. He used to show off his bowl ring that CSU won while he was there.
New Commit: Zane Sprague OL/Center 6'2 330, Watkins Memorial High School, Pataskala OHIO.
National Rank: 4072
Roster up to 105
Good to see the staff still shaking the bushes to find players this late in the cycle.
With every passing week, I, for one, am getting curiouser and curiouser about what this team will look like going into EKU. I have zero preconceived notions. But can't wait to get my ticket to the President's Pavillion in the new two story Brown Field press box ....... uh, wait. Never mind. ;)
Do they still have the dude turning the crank to provide adequate electricity for the press box?
Quote from: VULB#62 on July 02, 2019, 07:38:36 AMGood to see the staff still shaking the bushes to find players this late in the cycle.
At the very least it will build depth in case there is a rash of "the new staff doesn't want to play me so I am out of here" reaction which seems, anecdotally at least, to happen whenever a new staff comes in.
Quote from: usc4valpo on July 02, 2019, 09:51:29 AM
Do they still have the dude turning the crank to provide adequate electricity for the press box?
I think they are still hooking up the Tesla to the cord that hangs outside the Brown Field press box. But that sometimes only lasts till 5 minutes are left in the 4th quarter and they guess at what is happening on the field because they run out of power.
The new punter has an absolute leg on him
https://twitter.com/BNiesner/status/1145872437403238400
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 02, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
New Commit: Zane Sprague OL/Center 6'2 330, Watkins Memorial High School, Pataskala OHIO.
National Rank: 4072
Roster up to 105
Now that is a huge addition. We needed more bodies on the OL. I think this gets us to 16, we had 23 last year.
Is anyone else amazed that rankings go all the way to 4700 and I am assuming beyond.
Quote from: IndyValpo on July 02, 2019, 09:28:50 PM
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 02, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
New Commit: Zane Sprague OL/Center 6'2 330, Watkins Memorial High School, Pataskala OHIO.
National Rank: 4072
Roster up to 105
Now that is a huge addition. We needed more bodies on the OL. I think this gets us to 16, we had 23 last year.
Is anyone else amazed that rankings go all the way to 4700 and I am assuming beyond.
This kid looks pretty impressive in the videos. Just pancakes a bunch of guys.
https://www.ncsasports.org/football-recruiting/ohio/pataskala/watkins-memorial-high-school/zane-sprague
Quote from: VU2014 on July 02, 2019, 08:11:02 PMThe new punter has an absolute leg on him
A yard better last year than Ng and Ulbrich over the past two years (38+ vs 37+)
#26 Maceo,#77 Roberts, #97 Olojo have left team
Maceo was a rsfr. HS QB, played three games at RB last SSN. moved to db in spring
Roberts was a rotation player in '15. Started opener in '16 then inj ofy. starter in '17, lost spot to Taliaferro rotation player in '18. Late decision to forgo fifth year.
Olojo two year rotation player at DT, 15 GP
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 12, 2019, 01:00:24 PM
#26 Maceo,#77 Roberts, #97 Olojo have left team
Maceo was a rsfr. HS QB, played three games at RB last SSN. moved to db in spring
Roberts was a rotation player in '15. Started opener in '16 then inj ofy. starter in '17, lost spot to Taliaferro rotation player in '18. Late decision to forgo fifth year.
Olojo two year rotation player at DT, 15 GP
Roberts leaving really hurts
I think that's 10 OL who are not new freshmen plus the 4 recruits. So 14 if everyone shows up which is never a given. Weren't there something like 22 on the roster at one point? With injuries inevitable (and the gods have an odd way of focusing on the spots teams can least afford them) it's going to be tough to practice. I wonder if a few position changes could be in order if any of the DLmen are big enough.
Olojo I thought was going to be the next John Guilford but he just never got going. Maybe he had some injuries holding him back.
With all the injuries, who's running the ball?
No redshirting on the o-line
Quote from: usc4valpo on July 12, 2019, 10:20:08 PMNo redshirting on the o-line
You can still play in 4 games and redshirt. So my guess is that they could attempt to mix and match the freshmen but, again, that all depends on the number of injuries suffered.
The biggest problem is practicing. 14 is essentially a 2 deep plus 4. So how many are on the scout team? Players get knicked up and need to sit practice out to be ready for games.
O-Line is teetering towards a serious problem
Of the freshman/rfr O'Doherty, Laird, Monahan, Dixon appear to be physically ready
Sprague, Drs, London, Parrish will probably not see snaps so what that means
Outside of Lundberg, Bad, Jarnigan we return Zajac, Byrd, Russell, Biggs that group played a whopping 7 games combined last season!
With three positions held down the other two are very up for grabs next season, I expect coaches to rotate players throughout RG,RT
In terms of Running the ball I've heard on pretty good authority RFr Allison is the real deal. Boxrucker, Early, Cartales are all back but I think Allison could lead team in carries
It's July and it already looks like a another noncompetitive season for the Crusader. cripes...
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 13, 2019, 07:32:35 AMIn terms of Running the ball I've heard on pretty good authority RFr Allison is the real deal. Boxrucker, Early, Cartales are all back but I think Allison could lead team in carries
Are Cartales and Boxrucker recovered from injury at this point...or expected to be? If they are, it makes things easier. Cartales can run the ball but his best ability may be as a receiver.
Wasn't Haugh looked upon at one point to be able to step in and run the ball pretty well?
As time moves on, I question the previous staff's ability to recruit and retain.
Regardless of who emerges as The Guy at TB... seems to me that there is significantly more depth at that position than at WR. Will be interesting to see if new staff attempts to do some more stuff with 2 RBs in the game.
Quote from: NWIGuy on July 13, 2019, 01:40:41 PMRegardless of who emerges as The Guy at TB... seems to me that there is significantly more depth at that position than at WR. Will be interesting to see if new staff attempts to do some more stuff with 2 RBs in the game.
I agree regarding the WR issue but my point was that Cartales and Boxrucker were both injured fairly significantly last season and if they can't go, the RB isn't all that deep. RB is a position in which your one hit away from your #2 guy all of the time.
WR I think Bingham and Lopez are ready to go immediately , Brewer had a big spring. Koehler, Reese, Gessinger, Larose were rotation guys last season. We don't have a Norberg or even a Catrine but the cupboard isn't bare. Really need 7 to play 3 here. Hopefully Stablein and Beer can provide insurance. I could see Larose having a big year here, solid impact as a freshman , battled injuries last season.
RB we have a stable essentially three coming in Saunoris, Engle, Curtis. Cartales, Boxrucker, Early, Allison, Haugh are all able bodies. That's 5 to play 2 essentially. My guess is the first four get lionshare of carries.
OL/QB are question marks. I know new staff is high on Nimz and if Jimmy isn't staying for 5 or healthy it might make sense for both parties to move directions.
There season will be a learning experience for all. this season would be a challenge even for Gil Thorp!
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 14, 2019, 08:33:14 AMWR I think Bingham and Lopez are ready to go immediately , Brewer had a big spring. Koehler, Reese, Gessinger, Larose were rotation guys last season. We don't have a Norberg or even a Catrine but the cupboard isn't bare. Really need 7 to play 3 here.
Lopez I can see as more of a high volume WR. While Bingham may turn out to be a fantastic find at WR, I can't count on any one freshman at nearly any position to have an immediate impact. Recall the Indiana WR from a few years ago who was all state but couldn't do anything when he got to Valpo. There's just too much adjustment to make from HS to college in a lot of different areas.
Bingham is coming from the MIC (Top conference in Indiana) as Franz came from a Bloomington school that plays the equivalent of an Indianapolis 2A schedule competition wise.
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 14, 2019, 08:35:44 PMa Bloomington school that plays the equivalent of an Indianapolis 2A schedule competition wise.
Bloomington Lighthouse?
Quote from: bbtds on July 16, 2019, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 14, 2019, 08:35:44 PMa Bloomington school that plays the equivalent of an Indianapolis 2A schedule competition wise.
Bloomington Lighthouse?
[/quotQuote from: bbtds on July 16, 2019, 12:02:23 AM
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 14, 2019, 08:35:44 PMa Bloomington school that plays the equivalent of an Indianapolis 2A schedule competition wise.
Bloomington Lighthouse?
No Franz played at South. Their schedule is much better than a 2A schedule playing in Conference Indiana, not the MIC but a decent 4A/5A conference.
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 14, 2019, 08:35:44 PMBingham is coming from the MIC (Top conference in Indiana) as Franz came from a Bloomington school that plays the equivalent of an Indianapolis 2A schedule competition wise.
Arguments about the level of competition aside...Larose played for a team in a tough district in Florida....the issue is can a given freshman be counted on to come in and not only start but be counted on to be a significant piece of the offense. I think that's a tough ask for any freshman and probably something that shouldn't be counted on no matter the position or level of competition the player is coming from.
Add to the roster DB Nate Soloman who last played at D2 West Liberty in WVA. Listed as a R-SR.
Played in 9 games with one start last year. 14 tackles.
Salomon certainly helps out our safety depth immediately as it stood before he transferred in:
SS: Booker SR. (2yr st, 3 yr cont), Leach RSSO. (sptm and garbage tm ly)
FS: Scarsella SO. (1/2 yr st), Duncan (2yr cont)
I would not be surprised if him and Scarsella battled it out during camp with with the winner ending up as opening day starter
I know a bit about the West Liberty program and the level of player who typically heads there. I would hope that Scarsella would start with Salomon being a depth/ST player.
Me too. Scarsella was a great surprise as a freshman. He is also atypical for DBs in our conference, IMO: he has BOTH height and range. Usually PFL DBs are shorter with range or taller with limited range. He can cover quite a lot of it ground. And for a freshman he showed some good instincts. I hope Fox's D schemes help him be even better.
Quote from: VULB#62 on July 20, 2019, 05:19:45 PMMe too. Scarsella was a great surprise as a freshman. He is also atypical for DBs in our conference, IMO: he has BOTH height and range. Usually PFL DBs are shorter with range or taller with limited range. He can cover quite a lot of it ground. And for a freshman he showed some good instincts. I hope Fox's D schemes help him be even better.
I agree with the assessment of Scarsella. Coupled with the fact that players in the WLU program are typically not as good on the whole as PFL players....Walsh is in the same league and has gotten crushed by PFL teams recently....and I would hope a player who was a rotational player only in his 4th year wouldn't be able to beat out a player making the jump from freshman to sophomore year at Valpo.
Maybe they brought the player in for inside information on Charleston University....also in the same league as WLU.
Quote from: JD24 on July 20, 2019, 09:38:15 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on July 20, 2019, 05:19:45 PMMe too. Scarsella was a great surprise as a freshman. He is also atypical for DBs in our conference, IMO: he has BOTH height and range. Usually PFL DBs are shorter with range or taller with limited range. He can cover quite a lot of it ground. And for a freshman he showed some good instincts. I hope Fox's D schemes help him be even better.
I agree with the assessment of Scarsella. Coupled with the fact that players in the WLU program are typically not as good on the whole as PFL players....Walsh is in the same league and has gotten crushed by PFL teams recently....and I would hope a player who was a rotational player only in his 4th year wouldn't be able to beat out a player making the jump from freshman to sophomore year at Valpo.
Maybe they brought the player in for inside information on Charleston University....also in the same league as WLU.
I don't doubt you are correct, however West Liberty plays in the Mountain East and Walsh the GMAC. Football wise I would think the MEC is a little better.
Quote from: valpofb16 on June 27, 2019, 09:02:36 PM
New Commit: Ben Niesner transfer from Portland State, Punter 5-11 180 JR
Roster up to 104
https://goviks.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3285
I was checking to see if our new punter was also a holder. Couldn't find anything but check out his bio. Didn't play in HS and looks to be self taught. Beat out a senior last season.
Quote from: IndyValpo on July 31, 2019, 11:01:41 AMQuote from: valpofb16 on June 27, 2019, 09:02:36 PMNew Commit: Ben Niesner transfer from Portland State, Punter 5-11 180 JR Roster up to 104
https://goviks.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=3285 I was checking to see if our new punter has also a holder. Couldn't find anything but check out his bio. Didn't play in HS and looks to be self taught. Beat out a senior last season.
Seems to me holder's over the last regime ranged from WR's to punters to QBs. Kuramata and Morgan, Ng, Staal are names that come to mind.
This is just some FYI information. Think about it as you will.
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But to me it puts into sharp perspective one private FCS athletic program versus Valpo's. These are donations only to the Bucknell athletic program. The "Proud to be Valpo" drive gets happy over reaching $750K for ALL of Valpo's needs. Granted, PTBV is a one day burst, not an annual total, but still........
Any wonder why Cecchini jumped. I would too. BTW, on Cecchini's most recent Twitter page he has a picture of NFL QB Ryan Fitzpatrick with him touting how good a coach Dave is. Too bad Ryan was busy the past 5 years. Oops, did I think that out loud?
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#23 Gessinger has left the team. Good return guy, was his spot at slot to lose this year. Heard his back up Brewer had a huge spring, wonder if it wasn't his spot to lose anymore
Wish Bailey the best with graduation this year!
Explosive return man... this is a tough loss.
Gessinger's a loss. No way to sugarcoat it. Probably not an every down guy in the slot but he was a threat to score at any point and the return game? Good luck finding a guy who can run them back at any point.
Quote from: valpofb16 on August 03, 2019, 06:57:07 PM
#23 Gessinger has left the team. Good return guy, was his spot at slot to lose this year. Heard his back up Brewer had a huge spring, wonder if it wasn't his spot to lose anymore
Wish Bailey the best with graduation this year!
Anyone know why?
New roster Addition:
Evan Satoski 6'3 240 DLINE , flipped from Morehead st
Does that mean that Gessinger is still at Valpo, but just not playing?
#40 FB Martin has left the team, makes sense as Edinboro did not have FB on roster and Limbach appears to not use any 2 back sets. Would have been good special team depth.
Wish Brannen the best with graduation!
Valpo's replacing 21 of the 35 offensive and return(not counting McKeag's flukey PR) TDs from last season between graduation and players leaving team.
Quote from: valpofb16 on July 02, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
New Commit: Zane Sprague OL/Center 6'2 330, Watkins Memorial High School, Pataskala OHIO.
National Rank: 4072
Roster up to 105
Has this kid shown up...not currently listed on the roster
Yes,
Satosky and Sprague are on campus, they may have to finish NCAA clearinghouse paperwork before they can be listed on the site. There very well could be 3 or 4 more we don't see until media day. That is by in large when we get the final roster posted.
https://philsteele.com/2019/08/07/2019-phil-steeles-fcs-preseason-all-american-and-all-conf-teams/
PFL All conference for Valpo
Offense: Jarnagin 2nd team
Defense: Petrie 1st team, Booker 2nd team, Reed 2nd team
Sp. Teams: Latsonas 3rd team.
Gessinger was listed as 2nd team as well.
Want to thank our forum admins for adding the 100th season logo to the Fan Forum banner. Thanks guys :thumbsup:
Looking at roster it appears we will head into the season with 20 SR/5yr players. Looking back the past ten years
2010: 15
2011: 16
2012: 17
2013: 21
2014: 27
2015: 18
2016: 13
2017: 9
2018: 28
2019: 20
This is the fourth highest total in the last ten years! Is there any school with a worse attrition rate. Also if you expand it to juniors and seniors for the Cecchini era it is
2014: 45
2015: 38
2016: 23
2017: 37
2018: 37
Fox enters with 32 upperclassmen 5 of which he recruited. This also means Cecc would have gone into year 6 with 27 upper class men! I have heard it here many times but I do think we should expect an at best .500 record. We will need patience and Fox entering into a less loaded deck than Cecchini did (say what you will about Carlson but he handed Cecchini a roster with half the team being upper classmen).
Fox's main goal should be pushing to keep a roster of almost 50% upper classmen
I would not be opposed to a heavy JUCO class next year to catch him up
The lowest total - 9 in 2017 - was the year we finished 6-5.
Paul
Paul while I realize this we had
QB: All conf play from a sophomore
RB: 2 year starter-Senior backed up by two sophomores
TE: 3 year starter-Senior
OL: Five upperclassmen (six rotating in)
WR: 4 upperclassmen and an all conf Freshman
DL: 4 upperclassmen
LB: 2 upperclassmen and a soph
DB: 3 juniors and a Redshirt senior (Scargle rotated)
So i stand by my statement that upperclassmen are huge in this league. I will say that season's schedule ended up being a pretty easy one hindsight 20-20
Ok so there are upperclassmen, but are they any good? I think Valpo was 2-9 last year.
Roster updated today. Dropped were the previously mentioned Gessinger and Martin plus LB Antoniou, RB Saunoris,
OL O'Doherty.
O Doherty changed numbers, Saunoris walked on during spring last year, Anoniou transferred high schools three times not shocked
Wish Antoniou and Saunoris luck!
Quote from: 78crusader on August 12, 2019, 01:17:59 PMThe lowest total - 9 in 2017 - was the year we finished 6-5. Paul
That team had a lot of 3rd year players who had played a lot mainly because the numbers from Carlson's last recruiting class and Cecchini's first recruiting class who survived were so low.
Anyone have a Fall Camp update? Seen a practice?
Quote from: NWIGuy on August 14, 2019, 09:48:58 AMAnyone have a Fall Camp update? Seen a practice?
and/or perhaps someone is attending the end of camp scrimmage which I would guess is Saturday? After that, the team should be broken down somewhat into travel/scout and game preparation begins.
#3 Shannon switched to runningback
#82 Conlin switched to tight end
Freshman reps are few and far between
Jimmy the guy at QB and healthy, Cartales/Boxrucker 1-2 at back , Allison change of pace back. Reese may be most improved player on team, Lopez standing out. OL is Lundberg, Vas , Jarnigan, Russell, Byrd L-R, Parrish and Biggs will rotate in. Kluck and Bittner should get equal reps
DLine Reed Gedrys Goebel Twigg starters, Sete, Bishop rotating, Martin's, Satoski have impressed. LB look for a lot of Turner, Peifer, Messler, Poloskey in mix. Gasperoni and Saunders have impressed. DB Scarsrlla and Booker safeties, Leach Mckeag behind them Kelly, Hebda, Leandre, Sherman battling things out. Petrie, Skarecky with Helm rotating at the Cru position
The best news of valpofb's report is the health of Seewald and the two RBs.
Interesting news about Shannon's position switch. His HS highlights show some ability at RB.
I realize everyone can't play but where are guys such as Earley and Haugh who've been around a while....Earley as a 5th year guy...yet don't appear to be on the depth chart other than likely STs.
Another question I have which maybe cannot or should not be answered is are they using the TEs much. I got the impression from the little video and statistics of Limbach's offense that the TE wasn't a big part of it other than for the run game. IOW lots of 10 personnel.
JD24 great question let's just say don't be shocked to see Bittner as a large Target in 10 personnel split out
Haugh is LS, I could see Earley getting time in the return game
Thanks 16 for your observations. I only wish that VUFB would be more forthcoming with Tweets and daily communication. They are trying but its been a few days since we have heard from the source. Say what you want, the previous staff was a bit better at getting info out to expectant fans.
Thanks VULB unfortunately this will be my last year with insider information. FWIW I was wrong in my original post Skarecky will be playing the CRU position with Petrie moving into a traditional LB spot for the fall.
Personally I liked Petrie at the CRU position due to Peifer and Psota being ready to go. I hope another recent alum joins the board and cares enough to keep people in the loop. If not expect quite a dead period between Late spring and mid August
Quote from: valpofb16 on August 15, 2019, 08:39:02 AMThanks VULB unfortunately this will be my last year with insider information. FWIW I was wrong in my original post Skarecky will be playing the CRU position with Petrie moving into a traditional LB spot for the fall. Personally I liked Petrie at the CRU position due to Peifer and Psota being ready to go. I hope another recent alum joins the board and cares enough to keep people in the loop. If not expect quite a dead period between Late spring and mid August
You provide a great service to the board my friend.
Petrie with Turner should be a great LBer duo. My only concern with Skarecky at the CRU position is the opposite of my concern with Petrie. Skarecky's pretty lanky for a Safety and filling the box when required I'd be concerned about with him. I thought he showed very good coverage skills last year.
A little PFL love (even if it's for Butler this is still pretty cool.)
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FWIW Media Day updated #/pos
QB:
#4 Mullen RSSR
#9 Seewald RSJR
#14 Duncan RSJR
#5 Nimz RSFR
#10 Ruszkowski FR
#2 Saylers FR
TE:
#31 Kluck RSSO.
#84 Bittner RSSO.
#82 Conlin FR.
OL:
#65 Jarnigan RSSR
#60 Lundberg RSSR
#64 Biggs RSJR
#74 Zajac RSJR
#66 Vas JR
#51 Drs RSFR
#68 Byrd RSFR
#73 Russell RSFR
#75 O'Doherty RSFR
#67 Monahan FR
#69 Dixon FR
#70 Laird FR
#72 Parrish FR
#79 Sprague FR
WR
#12 Koehler RSSR
#17 Larose JR.
#22 Lopez JR.
#7 Stablein RSSO.
#6 Reese SO.
#81 Brewer RSFR
#86 Tsungoui
#20 Bingham FR
#26 Albright FR
#83 Holmes FR
#85 Davis FR
#88 Berkemeier FR
DB's
#5 Leandre RSSR
#26 Salomon RSSR
#20 Booker SR
#14 Kelly JR
#16 Hebda JR
#2 Jones RSSO
#9 Leach RSSO
#18 Hebda RSSO
#29 Sherman SO
#31 Scarsella SO
#11 McKeag RSFR
#7 Mitchell FR
#32 Brown FR
#35 Earles FR
#37 Williams FR
#39 Allen FR
LB
#47 Messler RSSR
#49 Turner RSSR
#36 Petrie SR
#8 Skarecky JR
#38 Poloskey JR
#6 Peifer SO
#89 Helm SO
#24 Psota RSFR
#48 Gasperoni RSFR
#30 Saunders FR
#42 Annis FR
#52 Kraus FR
#53 Chilton FR
DL
#93 Reed SR
#91 Goebel RSJR
#21 Twigg JR
#46 Martins JR
#92 Gedrys JR
#94 Orlandini JR
#34 Bishop RSSO
#45 Purty RSSO
#90 Velasco RSSO
#96 Germain RSSO
#43 Marinelli RSFR
#56 Christian RSFR
#57 O'Connell RSFR
#76 London RSFR
#55 Bibler FR
#77 Schimanski FR
#97 Files FR
Satoski FR( Couldn't see number from picture)
RB
#21 Earley RSSR
#32 Boxrucker SR
#44 Cartalies SR
#3 Shannon RSSO
#15 Haugh RSSO
#25 Allison RSFR
#27 Engle FR
#41 Curtis FR
Specialist
#1 Latsonas SR
#33 Neisner JR
#99 Puckett RSSO
#87 Batholomew RSFR
#19 Oliva FR
97 On roster, Mcnerney appears to have left team. Appears all the freshman have made it to media day which is a great sign for staff!
Post camp depth chart
QB: Seewald/ Duncan
RB: Cartales/ Boxrucker
TE: Kluck/ Bittner
WR: Koehler/ Larose
WR: Reese/ Lopez
WR: Brewer/ Holmes
LT: Lundberg/ Zajac
LG: Vas/ Biggs
C: Jarnigan/ Monahan
RG: Russell/ O'doherty
RT: Byrd/ Parrish
DE: Purty/ Martins
DT: Gedrys/ Goebel
DT: Reed/ Velasco
DE: Twigg/ Bishop
LB: Turner/ Messler
LB: Petrie/ Peifer
CRU: Skareky/ Poloskey
CB: Leandre/ Kelly
S: Booker/ Leach
S: Skarecky/ Hebda
CB: Hebda/ Sherman
Quote from: valpofb16 on August 18, 2019, 04:58:25 PMPost camp depth chart QB: Seewald/ Duncan RB: Cartales/ Boxrucker TE: Kluck/ Bittner WR: Koehler/ Larose WR: Reese/ Lopez WR: Brewer/ Holmes LT: Lundberg/ Zajac LG: Vas/ Biggs C: Jarnigan/ Monahan RG: Russell/ O'doherty RT: Byrd/ Parrish DE: Purty/ Martins DT: Gedrys/ Goebel DT: Reed/ Velasco DE: Twigg/ Bishop LB: Turner/ Messler LB: Petrie/ Peifer CRU: Skareky/ Poloskey CB: Leandre/ Kelly S: Booker/ Leach S: Skarecky/ Hebda CB: Hebda/ Sherman
If that WR depth chart is as presented, the surprise is that some of those guys listed as 2nd on the depth chart aren't ahead of at least one of the guys listed as 1st on the depth chart. Jimmy will have to find his bailout guy quickly with not only the WRs being inexperienced but the TEs as well. Maybe Cartales catches 50 balls out of the backfield.
Quick edit
RSFR McNerney is still on roster but has moved to be strictly a punter. Possibly due to back issues.
Roster is at 98.
As of your comment at receiver JD24. I definitely agree with Larose's freshman season it is puzzling he is not yet a starter on the field. Injuries set him back last season but the talent is definitely there. The good news is that we appear to have 5 receivers ready to play.
Holmes while slight is listed at 2, more than likely Stablein lines up in the slot behind Brewer however for away games Holmes will be a surefire travel squad member as he is the return man. Have heard him, Berkemeier, and J Allen have all been clocked in at 20MPH speed. Berkemeier looks like an excellent PFL freshman
Quote from: valpofb16 on August 19, 2019, 06:40:00 AMAs of your comment at receiver JD24. I definitely agree with Larose's freshman season it is puzzling he is not yet a starter on the field. Injuries set him back last season but the talent is definitely there. The good news is that we appear to have 5 receivers ready to play. Holmes while slight is listed at 2, more than likely Stablein lines up in the slot behind Brewer however for away games Holmes will be a surefire travel squad member as he is the return man. Have heard him, Berkemeier, and J Allen have all been clocked in at 20MPH speed. Berkemeier looks like an excellent PFL freshman
What about the transfer WR? I would have thought he'd be one of the first three.
Good info btw.
Lopez is a great athlete by all accounts however he is very raw in the offense .
Valpo gets roughly 16 spring practices and 24 in camp. This means even with new staff the first 3 has had almost double the reps (probably even more with influx of freshman)
Expect to see Lopez on gameday, could see him start by end of season. Koehler has 24 games under his belt and Reese 11. JUCO ball may have equal/better athletes but schemes are more complex at this level. Remember JUCOs only get a Max of 1 1/2 years in their program.
You'll need ESPN+ to watch the home games.
http://www.valpoathletics.com/athletics/news/2019-20/19208/valpo-athletics-to-produce-28-home-broadcasts-for-the-valley-on-espn-this-fall/
Last bit of info before game week
QB: If Jimmy is playing the game he is number one, Duncan and Nimz is a neck and neck battle for two
RB: Cartales, Boxrucker, Allison are the committee here, Early next man up
WR: Koehler, Brewer, Reese the starters. Lopez, Larose will see field. Bingham and Davis have impressed, Holmes return man
TE: Kluck is one, Bittner two, expect Conlin to see the field
OL: not much new here Russell, Byrd , Lundberg , Jarnigan, Vas the guys, Parrish and Dixon freshman standouts. Biggs a rotator
DL: Twigg, Purty, Gedrys, Reed starting. O'Connell, Martins, Orlandini will play at end. Sete, Goebel, Velasco will rotate inside
LB: Peifer and Turner appear to be starters. Petrie, Messler will see significant snaps. Psota will travel
CRU: Skarecky followed by Helm
CB: Leandre and Kelly are the starters , Hebda and Sherman behind them
S: Booker and Scarsella are starters , Leach and Hebda behind them McKeag will travel
LS: Haugh
K: Latsonas, no longer looking to transfer as well
P: Niesner
Cade Bishop and Joey Poloskey have suffered season ending knee injuries
I've just noticed that I was reading Scarsella instead of Skarecky for the CRU position. So Scarsella is at S while Skarecky is at CRU. That makes my comments about who was manning the CRU position more ridiculous than most of my comments. ;D
I feel for the players who've already had their seasons end.
I hope Seewald is healthy, ready to go and plays. IOW, the opposite of what we saw last year which I didn't like in terms of giving him a few series here and there and trying to tell me what my eyes were seeing was wrong.
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Some real solid character choices.
Given the hardships Jimmy has faced during his time at Valpo, I am pleased he decided to stay and this honor is his reward. Nick, from the very beginning, has exuded leadership and character. Both Booker and Jarnigan have been rocks.
Congrats guys, you deserved the honor, now lead like we know you can. Focus your teammates on each play and each goal. Do not let personal selfishness even knock on the door. The team focus is 3,600 seconds every game. Your job, gentlemen, is to continually remind all of your teammates of that (and to keep the slate clean off the field as well).
Back at it. I disagree with the comment Seewald has to find a bailout guy quick, he needs to be the bailout guy or who ever the QB is. Seewald is not quick enough yet, I have seen-some practices. Its between Duncan and Nimz. Duncan has the best footwork by far. Anyone see the official dept chart for the game next week?
Quote from: dcannon12 on August 21, 2019, 05:45:18 PMBack at it. I disagree with the comment Seewald has to find a bailout guy quick, he needs to be the bailout guy or who ever the QB is. Seewald is not quick enough yet, I have seen-some practices. Its between Duncan and Nimz. Duncan has the best footwork by far. Anyone see the official dept chart for the game next week?
You don't think Seewald or whoever the QB is needs to find a reliable receiver he can count on when things get tight?
No there is never a 100% reliable "got too" receiver its football. Sometimes the QB needs to see the forward open space in a split second if the receivers is not open and take off running.
I do not think Seewald is the best at that. If your only relying on throwing Valpo will be in trouble. Get the mobile QB's in the game.
Well.. here's my thought process on Duncan. Offense only. Our OLine and WRs were healthy last year. And Duncan lead us to an exactly last place PFL offense in scoring and yards.
He did not show this crazy ability to run. Did not look great under pocket. Very rarely aimed downfield. I'd rather see Nimz in there and start building.
Nothing against Chris , he has been an excellent program kid. But 11 game sample size of Campbell in 2017 and all of 2018 have shown he may just not be the answer.
Duncan's record as a primary QB: 1-10
Quote from: dcannon12 on August 22, 2019, 09:55:55 AMNo there is never a 100% reliable "got too" receiver its football. Sometimes the QB needs to see the forward open space in a split second if the receivers is not open and take off running. I do not think Seewald is the best at that. If your only relying on throwing Valpo will be in trouble. Get the mobile QB's in the game.
QBs, mobile or not, typically rely on a receiver who can find a way to make himself available under duress. valpofb16 has the rest of it down. If he is correct about the current QB depth chart, it also means that two completely different coaching staffs have come to the same conclusion. This with the second coaching staff inheriting the guy they put at the top of the depth chart with an unusable right arm.
lets see if they new coaching stuff opens the play book up to let the mobile qb like Duncan to run more , he has some wheels lol,,
Spring walk-on and converted DT James London has left the program
Wish James luck!
11 men are on the field but one Duncan lead them to 1-10 wow.
Seewald, Duncan, Nimz who ever plays remember you're not alone out there are 10 guys with you.
oh and you have coaches.
Quarterback is leader of the team, center of the offense. Like I said I appreciate what Chris has done for the program. Think he has been good in spots. Last year he did not get it done as the starter point blank. But yes Valpo's record with him as the primary option at quarterback has not been close to Seewalds. Therefore if Jimmy is healthy he's the guy.
Nothing which has been shown by the players in games over the last 3 years would indicate that Duncan should start over Seewald.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 14, 2019, 09:41:12 PMThanks 16 for your observations. I only wish that VUFB would be more forthcoming with Tweets and daily communication. They are trying but its been a few days since we have heard from the source. Say what you want, the previous staff was a bit better at getting info out to expectant fans.
I'm with you on this. So far I'm not overwhelmed by Coach Fox's communication through the media to the public. Whatever it was supposed to be on media day, that "press conference" provided was attrocious. It has to improve as it is part of his job.
Quote from: JD24 on August 22, 2019, 07:33:36 PM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 14, 2019, 09:41:12 PMThanks 16 for your observations. I only wish that VUFB would be more forthcoming with Tweets and daily communication. They are trying but its been a few days since we have heard from the source. Say what you want, the previous staff was a bit better at getting info out to expectant fans.
I'm with you on this. So far I'm not overwhelmed by Coach Fox's communication through the media to the public. Whatever it was supposed to be on media day, that "press conference" provided was attrocious. It has to improve as it is part of his job.
I could not make out practically anything Coach Fox said between the background noise and poor audio. That was so beneath the level of quality we have come to expect of Valpo coverage. I am surprised they even released that. What the heck did he say on "Media Day"? That is not on Fox. That is on the SID.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 22, 2019, 07:43:38 PMQuote from: JD24 on August 22, 2019, 07:33:36 PMQuote from: VULB#62 on August 14, 2019, 09:41:12 PMThanks 16 for your observations. I only wish that VUFB would be more forthcoming with Tweets and daily communication. They are trying but its been a few days since we have heard from the source. Say what you want, the previous staff was a bit better at getting info out to expectant fans.
I'm with you on this. So far I'm not overwhelmed by Coach Fox's communication through the media to the public. Whatever it was supposed to be on media day, that "press conference" provided was attrocious. It has to improve as it is part of his job.
I could not make out practically anything Coach Fox said between the background noise and poor audio. That was so beneath the level of quality we have come to expect of Valpo coverage. I am surprised they even released that. What the heck did he say on "Media Day"? That is not on Fox. That is on the SID.
I agree with the setting being ridiculous. However I did listen to what Coach Fox said and he was rambling on about very non specific to football points. A lot of mental mumbo jumbo I would say and it was repetitive. We didn't even get the usual "the team had a great camp...."
Two things about media day that stood out
1) No SID present and the fill ins seemed to be student reporters asking non scheme related questions. We as fans would like more but the team has to earn more. Heading into last season coverage was best it's ever been following a winning season. Our media team is spread very thin.
2) Fox made a home run play by making media day a part of parent weekend. Players parents got to come in see their kids, there was an intra squad scrimmage. I like the family atmosphere aspect and including the parents. This helps with a few things. Home sickness, family involvement , and I'm sure there were proud parents/students in attendance.
Fox may be a less is more speaker and media guy but If you read the signs he is trying to build a real family atmosphere and foundation with VU football. Name the last coach to do that!
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 22, 2019, 07:43:38 PMThat is on the SID.
Not an excuse, but, Brandon Vickrey is the SID for football and he missed the event because his flight was canceled. Obviously, it falls more on MLB for not getting someone else on the job in Brandon's absence.
Quote from: valpofb16 on August 22, 2019, 10:07:49 PM
Two things about media day that stood out
1) No SID present and the fill ins seemed to be student reporters asking non scheme related questions. We as fans would like more but the team has to earn more. Heading into last season coverage was best it's ever been following a winning season. Our media team is spread very thin.
2) Fox made a home run play by making media day a part of parent weekend. Players parents got to come in see their kids, there was an intra squad scrimmage. I like the family atmosphere aspect and including the parents. This helps with a few things. Home sickness, family involvement , and I'm sure there were proud parents/students in attendance.
Fox may be a less is more speaker and media guy but If you read the signs he is trying to build a real family atmosphere and foundation with VU football. Name the last coach to do that!
16, the things you talk about because of your closeness to the team are the things that we fans need to be told by the Athletic Dept/VUFB/SID on a much more regular basis. I don't understand the dropoff of coverage this preseason, especially as this is Coach Fox's first season and the program needs every possible exposure to generate enthusiasm and support. For example, during camp there were days and days between Twitter posts and very little in terms of video or anything about the camp-ending scrimmage itself.
Quote from: vu72 on August 23, 2019, 08:43:19 AM
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 22, 2019, 07:43:38 PMThat is on the SID.
Not an excuse, but, Brandon Vickrey is the SID for football and he missed the event because his flight was canceled. Obviously, it falls more on MLB for not getting someone else on the job in Brandon's absence
Can't blame Brandon for that, but surely, as you point out, someone else in the SID could have subbed in and arranged for a more professional atmosphere along with a better scripted set of interview questions.
Season Preview!
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Quote from: valpofb16 on August 22, 2019, 10:07:49 PM2) Fox made a home run play by making media day a part of parent weekend. Players parents got to come in see their kids, there was an intra squad scrimmage. I like the family atmosphere aspect and including the parents. This helps with a few things. Home sickness, family involvement , and I'm sure there were proud parents/students in attendance. Fox may be a less is more speaker and media guy but If you read the signs he is trying to build a real family atmosphere and foundation with VU football. Name the last coach to do that!
Under the last staff weren't family encouraged to come to the scrimmage and in at least a few years if not all years, have a pretty good showing amongst the parents, friends and family who could make it?
Drumming up support amongst the inner circle is one aspect of coaching and can be accomplished by some leadership amongst the family members but communication with the outside world is going to be extremely important in my view.
As an aside, if the student media isn't going to ask appropriate questions of the football coach, it makes me question the student media. Doesn't Paul Oren teach media related classes at the University?
Media day happened on the Sunday of Freshman welcome. Most students maybe weren't even back on campus or were just arriving so who knows who was even there for the student side.
Quote from: vu72 on August 23, 2019, 10:46:59 AM
Season Preview!
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Hmmmm........ some slight surprises in the depth chart as guys who were go-to guys last year are in competition for their old jobs — especially true on the D side. Interesting as well that the QB role is still portrayed as a toss-up, but that may be more gamesmanship than truth. Cartales in the return game ?
Oh, BTW, regarding the full team picture: does anyone else get a little disoriented by the reflection in the foreground of all the players on the shiny floor of the ARC?
No pre-camp interview. No post-camp interview which could remotely be considered coherent. To this point, no pre-game interview although I guess we could still see this early this week with a game Thursday. These were typical during the last couple of regimes IIRC. Definitely during Cecchini's tenure.
I don't know if this has been coaches choice, SID's choice, a logistics issue or some situation or happenstance I'm not thinking of but it isn't good for the program. The coach needs to be out in front of as many people he can be. Based on what's available for the Dayton program, I don't think this is something learned at Dayton assuming there is a "something" there.
Seems like a great kid...
'Fun to be around': Two-year captain Nick Turner, first-year coach Landon Fox on same page for VU football
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-college-football-valparaiso-st-082419-20190823-iqt5t34ydrgbzadthbmvke3x4a-story.html (https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-college-football-valparaiso-st-082419-20190823-iqt5t34ydrgbzadthbmvke3x4a-story.html)
If Fox wants to limit communication to his team and not be overly accessible to media, I am ok with that as long as there is success on the field. I would rather see some one work on the job and produce fruitful results, rather than Carlson talking about Osteen, defective shields and crap like that with no substance for improvement.
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 24, 2019, 01:25:57 PMIf Fox wants to limit communication to his team and not be overly accessible to media, I am ok with that as long as there is success on the field. I would rather see some one work on the job and produce fruitful results, rather than Carlson talking about Osteen, defective shields and crap like that with no substance for improvement.
The Head Coach is responsible for both otherwise less people than already don't pay attention won't pay attention. It also doesn't always come back to Carlson as it often does with you.
Sorry man, the Carlson nightmare is gone but not forgotten. just avoid bogus inspirational quotes please and I will do my best to let it go.
Maverick, Goose, er, Osteen is gone. Ya just gotta let him go. It wasn't your fault. ;D
Yep. I want to see a football program the university and its alumni want to be proud of. do it clean but do it successfully. Can this really happen? I am not sure.
Quote from: VULB#62 on August 24, 2019, 09:09:43 PM
Maverick, Osteen, er, Goose is gone. Ya just gotta let him go. It wasn't your fault. ;D
An inspirational talk to help with your Osteen issue
I've heard that many years ago hunters would trap monkeys by filling a big barrel with bananas and then cutting a small hole in the side of it, just big enough for the monkey to get its hand and arm through. The monkey would stick his hand in the barrel and grab a fistful of bananas. As long as he was holding on to those bananas, he couldn't get his hand out of the barrel. He could have just let the bananas go, taken his hand out of the barrel, and gone on his way. But because he was holding on to the bananas, he was trapped and couldn't escape.
Too often we let the past trap us in a similar way. Unfair things happen. People hurt us, and we become offended. We experience loss. We make mistakes. We have a season of disappointment. The Bible says that trouble will come to us. But we can't allow those negative things to define our life. We can't hang on to them and let them become a trap we can't get out of. We have to put our foot down and say, "No more. I'm letting go and moving forward with my life."
The Scripture says God wants to give you beauty for ashes (Isaiah 61:3), but you can't receive the beauty if you don't give God your ashes. Give God your hurts and pains, and then open up wide so that you can receive the beauty He has in store for you. Give Him your past. Let it go. It's better in the hands of God. Don't worry and fret. Don't let a negative season of your life define your life. God doesn't allow it to define you, and neither should you. He's not thinking that way, and neither should you. He's not saying, "Well, you messed up, so you're never going to get the good things that I want you to have."
God has great things in store for you. The apostle Paul says to think on "whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report" (Philippians 4:8). When you're getting stressed out and discouraged, take inventory of what you're thinking about. Are you thinking about good things? Pure things? Things that are praiseworthy? Can you think of the good things that God has done in your life and what He's done in your family? This is how you're going to invest in the great things God has in your future. Remember that where you've been is not as important as where you're going. God has a bright future in store for you.Not from JOEL OSTEEN or CLAUDE OSTEEN but Joel's wife,
VICTORIA OSTEEN.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
If I don't see Todd's smiling face sitting next to Coach Fox on a video previewing the season sometime over the next few days I may pop a blood vessel!!!!! Or perhaps a strongly worded email will be sent to....I don't know....someone.
I did find it interesting that there were a few positions in which our board inside source and Brandon's writeup had some differences. What I REALLY didn't like was reading the following:
QuoteAn injured throwing (right) shoulder limited Seewald to four games in 2018, and he had a second operation during the offseason. When asked if he's 100 percent, Seewald said he's "getting there."
which came from this article:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/post-tribune/sports/ct-ptb-spt-college-football-valparaiso-st-082419-20190823-iqt5t34ydrgbzadthbmvke3x4a-story.html
This reads as eerily similar to what we went through at the QB position as last year when the coaching staff kept telling us Seewald was getting better each week when it was clear at best that his throwing motion had changed and he didn't have the same zip on the ball....yet still was the equal or better than the other QBs.
I hope that isn't the case again.
Vicky made some serious theological dollars from that I am sure. Between Warren, Osteen, and Hybels, these mega pastors or snake oil sales people and are a bad influence where they can lead our beloved Saders in the wrong direction as we face the Colonels.
We need Hunter Thompson to lead us to truth!
#77 DT Stephen Schimanski has left the program
valpofb16 is doing outstanding work keeping us informed of happenings. Valpo should hire him.
Quote from: usc4valpo on August 25, 2019, 01:15:36 PM
Vicky made some serious theological dollars from that I am sure. Between Warren, Osteen, and Hybels, these mega pastors or snake oil sales people and are a bad influence where they can lead our beloved Saders in the wrong direction as we face the Colonels.
We need Hunter Thompson to lead us to truth!
That's interesting. I recently tried to watch "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and really didn't comprehend the movie at all. Maybe I'll wait till January 1st, 2020 and drive to Road Ranger off I-70 in Marshall, IL and watch it again with the purchase of some legal recreational drugs per Illinois House Bill 1438. Maybe not.
Read the book - the movie pretty much sucked. Also, his work on the 1972 Presidential campaign was hilarious.
And please, no Lou Holtz inspirational speeches also.
Quote from: valpofb16 on August 25, 2019, 02:42:54 PM
#77 DT Stephen Schimanski has left the program
Made it through camp and picture day then left...
Indyvalpo happens quite often as that is usually when scout teams begin.
Quote from: valpofb16 on August 28, 2019, 08:15:33 AMIndyvalpo happens quite often as that is usually when scout teams begin.
I get the timing but....I don't get the timing. Incoming freshman. Scout team freshman year. Scout team isn't locked in for the full year and opportunity is there to move to travel roster. We've seen it before but I have to wonder what the expectations were and why the expectations were.
I hope he stayed in school.
Millennial child?
yeah my guess is this is probably personal, either college/valpo wasn't for him or he wasn't ready yet.
https://soundcloud.com/wvursport/get-to-know-valpo-athletics-jack-jarnigan
WVUR has an interview with one of the Senior players
Quote from: crusader05 on August 29, 2019, 08:18:25 AM
https://soundcloud.com/wvursport/get-to-know-valpo-athletics-jack-jarnigan
WVUR has an interview with one of the Senior players
Great interview. Sounds like a wonderful young man.
https://twitter.com/AlBillets/status/1169822712673357830
After today's game, I think we'll be a TD underdog in the Homecoming game in two weeks. Maybe a competitive game against Stetson and Morehead St.
Hopefully, we'll improve little things each week and make the last 4-5 games close.
Quote from: covufan on September 14, 2019, 08:14:16 PMAfter today's game, I think we'll be a TD underdog in the Homecoming game in two weeks.
I don't.
FWIW, Stetson is bringing in a DIII team from New England for this week's game. Western New England has been a consistent conference champion and a participant in the NCAA DIII playoffs the last two years. It'll be interesting to see what the outcome of this game is in light of Butler's defeat at the hands of DIII Taylor this past weekend.
Quote from: VULB#62 on September 17, 2019, 08:46:20 AM
FWIW, Stetson is bringing in a DIII team from New England for this week's game. Western New England has been a consistent conference champion and a participant in the NCAA DIII playoffs the last two years. It'll be interesting to see what the outcome of this game is in light of Butler's defeat at the hands of DIII Taylor this past weekend.
Note that Taylor switched to NAIA several years ago. Football plays in the Mid States with Marian and St Francis. They very well may give scholarships.
Quote from: IndyValpo on September 17, 2019, 10:04:57 AMQuote from: VULB#62 on September 17, 2019, 08:46:20 AMFWIW, Stetson is bringing in a DIII team from New England for this week's game. Western New England has been a consistent conference champion and a participant in the NCAA DIII playoffs the last two years. It'll be interesting to see what the outcome of this game is in light of Butler's defeat at the hands of DIII Taylor this past weekend.
Note that Taylor switched to NAIA several years ago. Football plays in the Mid States with Marian and St Francis. They very well may give scholarships.
Same league as Missouri Baptist as well I think. Taylor's been competitive with Butler in the past.
To 62's point, Western New England would be likely on par with Div III teams such as Trine and Hanover who both played in the playoffs last year but were knocked out. I have some familiarity with Hanover and my thoughts are that Valpo would handle them and possibly fairly easily. I would expect a Stetson win but, as with everything, I will probably be proven wrong.
Well we have hit "the big time" or possibly we will be "hit" by the big time, as this article says we will be playing North Dakota State in 2021. They have won something like a dozen FCS titles. The better news is that it is a $240,000 pay day.
https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/football/4733123-Bison-add-two-home-games-to-2021-football-schedule
Take the spread
Quote from: vu72 on October 23, 2019, 09:16:14 AM
Well we have hit "the big time" or possibly we will be "hit" by the big time, as this article says we will be playing North Dakota State in 2021. They have won something like a dozen FCS titles. The better news is that it is a $240,000 pay day.
https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/football/4733123-Bison-add-two-home-games-to-2021-football-schedule
We now know that Valpo will be playing Illinois State in 2022 but the pay day is only $115,000 (guaranteed). I suppose the added amount would be due to attendance? Interesting how far out these games are scheduled.
https://fbschedules.com/illinois-state-to-host-butler-in-2021-valparaiso-in-2022/
This site shows Valpo playing North Dakota State in 2021 to open and then hosting Dartmouth. Glad to see up playing the Ivy again.
https://fbschedules.com/ncaa-2021/team/valparaiso
Kind of an honor to play NDSU in beautiful Fargo.